I see a lot of "billionaire bad" commie talking points on here
they hoard all the wealth
>>538866858They are kikes and shabbos goys
>>538866904You could feed an entire african village for months with a single rent payment, why do you hoard the wealth?
I see a lot of Americans who love being fucked in the arse by wealthy kikes.
>>538867017where would I live then?
>>538866858
>>538866858Because the difficulty curve is fucked, the less you have the harder it is, the more you have the easier. Also I would have no problem with them is they weren't above the law but that kind of wealth you are in another dimension compared to normal people.
>>538866904Communists steal all your shit, your rights, and hoard all the wealth.
>>538866858A King must take resonsibility. Why shouldn't billionair?
>>538866858>Commie Show me one billionaire who isn't in favor of at least one of the following >Infinity jeets >DEI>Israel >Mass surveillance >Ending private ownership of assets (Hardware, Houses etc)>Destroying agriculture and replacing it with proprietary lab slop Hard mode: No Gabe Newell.
>>538866858Billionaires have the financial resources to bribe politicians. Until we have a way to make politicians uncorruptible (perhaps some sort of partial lobotomy), we're just going to have to crack down on anyone with a billion dollars or more.
>>538867147Kings are warrior aristocracy. Billionaires are filthy merchants. Thats why.
>>538866858If you have enough money to live off passive investment then the rest of the society is effectively your slaves You and yours just sit and eat and siphon what you consume out of everyone elseIt doesn't matter what you did in the past, it is not reasonable to expect the rest of the world to just feed you forever now
>>538866858>WHYBecause the entire purpose of civilization is diluting the power of emperors from our collective starting-point of having NO controls on power.Billionaires represent mass accumulation of power without an election, and that has ALWAYS been a contradiction within free societies.
>>538866858It's a question of value added. No individual adds that much more value than your average worker. So why the extreme levels of compensation? There's also a question of who in their right mind would seek to be that wealthy. It smacks of hubris to think you deserve to be that much richer than everyone else. We should be very wary of anyone who thinks they're worth that much more than everyone else to society.
jewish billionaires shouldn't exist. Or jewish millionaires. Or jewish people.
>>538866858the existence of billionaires is not the problem, the problem is whether their wealth is a detriment to everyone elsein the past there was at least a concept of noblesse oblige, but that doesn't exist anymorethe modern version of noblesse oblige is flooding the country with immigrants and creating a surveillance state
https://rumble.com/v7c8tqc-democratic-socialism-must-be-criminalized-leaders-deported.html
>>538867017How is someone paying that much in rent hoarding wealth, exactly?You have to be brown, the math doesn't math
>>538866858A better question is why do you defend them?
>>538866858Being so ridiculously wealthy with nothing to spend it on isn't actually possible unless you've got a vault of cash on pallets or something
>>538866858Doesn't matter if it's not a 0 sum game. Does matter if it is.If you can buy land, and the monopoly man plays a game of buying up everything and getting all the monies... at the end of the game he owns the whole board and you're just paying rent to be alive. Forever a slave.I guess the real issue is, is the monopoly man a good guy? Or is he a dickhead... maybe rent isn't so bad if it's 0$ + interest (no interest) and the monopoly man came up with a way to make life worth something and valuable and interesting... because if not, then he's probably going to end up alone, a monopoly man and a king... sitting on a throne of dirt, with no one to share it with... just by himself. How lonely. Right? There's gotta be something better than that. Something more to life..Right OP? Guess it's hard to answer in earnest when you don't know you're being questioned or that you exit.
>>538866858>I see a lot of "jews bad" commie talking points on hereyes, and?
>>538867017A person that has $100 million dollars lives there same life as any billionaire. The real joke is that billionaires love in credit so they never pay taxes and only pay a lump sum from their estate at death.
Communist logic:When capitalism is corrupt: THIS IS REEEEEEAL CAPITALISM! We need communism to solve this! When capitalism is thriving: NOT real capitalism, ignore!
>>538867017>feed an entire african village for months>for monthsIf they can't feed themselves indefinitely you're just destroying real wealth and financing greater human tragedy later. Which is coincidentally the same shit billionaires do.
>>538866858They could easily fix a lot of the worlds problems yet they do barely anything other than increase prices to make more money and pay their employees as little as possible
They should be able to exist but anybody worth north of 500m gets full loot pvp mode enabled. Welcome to chernarus nigger
>>538867620Dunno man, you only have to uplift the people you like and make them believe they did it.
>>538866858Commies don't work, so they spend all day shitposting on the internet. Theyre still just a loud minority.
Even libertarianism ultimately ends up as communism when you're living in enclaves/communes.Communism is not necessarily the means to an end but the end. It's a utopia.
>>538866858Their value is inflated by the constant economic bullshit they pull to reach those levels. Billionares shouldn't exist because the value of the dollar should be reflective of a healthy economy, not a rigged jewish shitfest.
>>538867754Communism and late stage capitalism actually share a lot in common, the only difference is how much the state is responsible for things.
Simple answer: Limited/finite supplySay there are only 2 trillion dollars to distributee in the entire USAOne (1) person comes along and claims 1 trillion of that, method of obtainment is irrelevantThere is now only 1 trillion dollars left to distribute to every other poor & rich person in the entire USA.Now precisely one (1) person has the economic power of half the country, solely in their hands.The country now lives or dies by the way(s) they use that money, while the rest of the country shares the other $1T and tries to mitigate whatever damage the other trillion-dollar-holder may inflict on the whole nation.You are directly down-stream of whoever controls the majority of your economy, and you are absolutely helpless to prevent the consequences therein.
>>538867040live?
>>538867754>"Commies don't work">he said on a monday at 10:30am on the /pol/
>>538866858It's just retards who doesn't understand economics. They think more goods and services will magically spawn if everyone just got a few zeroes added to their account balances. Like they think they are in some cartoon where billionaires use all their disposable income to buy every seat in the movie theater or every item in the grocery store. Fact is, most billionaires have their money in stocks and shit, and when they do consume, they buy ridiculously expensive shit like a sports car or rolex, which is them basically just surrendering their money for a thing with a brand on it. The only real reason billionaires are bad is cause they drive up property values.
>>538866858Stop begging for more of my taxes and kill yourself welfare queen faggot
>>538867913you're not a billionaire, bitch
We dont like welfare niggers, and all billionaires are welfare niggers
>>538866858Where??Did you mean jews?
>>538867953You’re not either you state money sucking weasel
>>538867797Both end the same way, in despotismBy grinding away all competing power structures of class and property and religion etc the communist leaves only the state with nothing to hold it backBy accumulation of capital eventually some group through bribery or other means uses the government to gain control of currency and credit and grinds out and supplants all other competing estates, by the use of the State power over who determines ownership they become the State with no competitors. The result is the same they are not really different in the end
>rightoids>"vgh..we need to return to the past when things were BASED for da white man"ok lets get rid of billionaires>"NO NOT LIKE THAT!"rightoids are the ultimate bootlickers
>>538866858If I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?It’s called babylonian money magicEnd the Fed
>>538867137Okay then no to both. Billionaires should be required to prove their contributions instead of weasel out of taxes as their empire consumed more land that ought to be used for housing...
>>538867206This is true. Any failures of governments are the failure of lobbyists and they ought to be punished or maybe we should require politicians to where gopro cams the same as police when accepting donations. That would fuck so much shit up and make them pissed(if they disingenuous liars trying to sneak around the public that relies on them being honest)
>>538866858That's seething from millionares mostly. Nigger, if billionares shouldn't exist, you shouldn't either, 20 million boy.
>>538866858>>538866904I own the means of production Inb4 >commieWho said I’m sharing?Hypothetically if I can produce everything to keep my family comfy why do I need money for?
>>538867797Reminder that "utopia" is primarily a place that literally cannot and will not exist."Utopia" is derived from the Greek prefix "ou-" (οὔ), meaning "not", and topos (τόπος), "place," with the suffix -iā (-ίᾱ) that is typical of toponyms; the name literally means "nowhere", emphasizing its fictionality.
>>538868206>That's seething from millionares mostlyThat’s upper middle class in 2026Sorry first world problems But End the Fed
>>538868006only one of us is simping for them
>>538868096The problem is that people are very evil now, they've lost their minds. Capitalism can be corrupt or it can be a utopia. When people are corrupt, they can't think straight and they vote for evil extremists who make the problem worse.
>>538868249>Reminder that "utopia" is primarily a place that literally cannot and will not exist.You don’t know you’re in it, such is the human nature
>>538866858Nobody hates notch. Simply being a billionaire is not the problem.
>CapituhleesmName a single capitalist country where people are chimping out over billionaires (pseudo socialist nations don't count).
>>538868560>Simply being a billionaire is not the problemThisdo tell……
>>538866858Because you don't become a billionaire without doing some awful shit to someone (e.g. stole, exploited, ruined, corrupted, etc.). Millionaire? Sure, that's easy and you could genuinely be a good person, still. No one gets three commas without either well-known heinous activities or having even more ungodly skeletons in their closet.
>>538866858They're not sitting on piles of cash. Their fortunes exist in ownership. Stocks, bonds, financial instruments. The issue is that this gives them real world power, when this ownership has been gathered through manipulation of currencies, making money from nothing. They've essentially printed themselves into being unelected feudal lords in all but name.
>>538867017Billionaires could feed the entire human population for the rest of all our lives, but they explicitly want everybody to have less access to resources so they can sell it back to us - with interest - instead. Why are you nagging some random regular guy for making an average living wage, given these facts?
>>538866858Communist = thief.If you see someone calling themselves a communist, they're calling themselves a thief.
>>538866858Another weak wedge issue to easily divide the goyim, too easy Moshe. Some people quit too early on the JQ, that would more commonly be the current American commie wannabe leftist dipshits in Amerifart, the useful idiots that want to protect brown people with an ideology just as horrible for society as Judaism. For now it's working but a blind fool can tell you the left in America will be very easily corralled away from what little they do know of the Jew, partly because the Nazi scare is a psyop Ameritards are fed since birth, along with all the Jewish media to solidify the lies about anything remotely right of Stalin's positions, hopelessly sick nation.
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>>538866858There is no capitalism, there is no communism. There is no free market. There is no "business world". There is only people stealing resources from you, and using words to confuse you so you don't do violence to them.
>>538866858Who gives a fuck if someone is a billionaire? The point is that they own a huge number of things that give them free money, and these things only give them free money because the state protects them, and regular people actually subsidize this service by paying taxes. So they should be paying out to the people in proportion to how much of these things they own.
>>538867812How can this even be true? If I made 400 dollars an hour I could buy a brand new 80k truck for example with 200 hours of work. If you assume I saved half that's 10 weeks to own it outright at 40 hour weeks. If I made that much I could save more than that though so maybe even less. I would be grossing 800k a year which is truly an insane amount of wealth. That's like buying 3 houses a year or even 6 in a cheaper area This is why I don't think the math is right there isn't a way that every normal laborer was able to buy 3 houses a yearNevermind even just one a year
>>538866904not wealth, asset bubbles
>>538868823It’s called SLAVERYIf I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?It’s called babylonian money magicEnd the FedPSAnybody think JFK was joking?Don’t answer that most of us are dumber than the slaves of 1860s due to FLUORIDE MICROPLASTICS and eating GOYSLOPS
>>538866858Buy yourself some friends big guy
Imagine how stupid people are nowadays they need to be explained why others with disproportionately more power than you is bad.
>>538868888They were able to buy a house over the course of five to ten years though. That was available to minimum wage workers with just a bit of financial responsibility.
>>538866858not billionaires, central bankers
>>538866858I wouldn't be even mad at bilionaires if they used their wealth to do cool shit like the epstein island. Instead what they do is buy 9th boat that's never used and 20th ferrari that sits in a garage never to be driven because it'll rack up miles.
>>538866858I have no problem with billionaires existing. I have a problem with billionaires existing and then frequently contributing zero taxes back into the system that subsidized their rise to billionaire status at the taxpayer’s expense. My problem is with billionaires being ladder-pulling cock-suckers.
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>>538869160$1 billion should be the universal wealth ceiling for all including corporations, and all overflow goes directly to the government
>>538869013Billionaires are virtually powerless compared to let's say The Rothschilds, but instead of naming the kike people get into screaming matches over Massa Besos or Elon Musk lmfao
>>538867017Why would you feed more niggers who can't take care of themselves?You essentially grow them like a crop and they all die off as soon as you stop the gibs.It's cruel even if you pretend to care about them.
>>538867025the problem is, the leveraged buyout that men fear above all else, is the leveraged buyout of their family, by their wife and her divorce judge, using his future income stream, turning his kids gay
>>538869160Remember that time in 1913 when $25k/yr was rich so we should tax their income?If they get a law passed to tax 90% on billionaires they’ll just inflate our currencies so everyone becomes a billionaire Screen cap this and look at it 100yr from now
>>538869253>and all overflowYour one of those that think "worth" is actually cash money, aren't you?
>>538867017>murderers exist but what about SPEEDING?????!?
>>538869055This
>>538869253It would be better to have a universal tax floor. If you're engaging with the economy and have less than a million dollars worth of property/assets/stocks/whatever, that shouldn't be taxed at all. Anything over that, or any property/assets/stocks/whatever at all for non-citizens or corporations, should be getting taxed. If a corporation is able to get to a billion or a hundred billion or ten trillion, that's fine. They just have to pay back to support the system that allows this kind of business to take place. And that means they should be supporting the common wealth of the citizenry more directly. Right now these kind of corporations are being directly subsidized by taxes (and underpaid labor) that are being paid by working people.
>>538869253>>538869515I love how the (((monetary policies))) create problems and (((commies))) have the solutions to all your problemsIs there a book I can learn to do this? Perhaps by the elders?
>>538868739>Their fortunes exist in ownership.Not you, but often an excuse for why not to tax billionaires is, "it's all tied up!"It hilariously ignores the fact they purposely push their money into art pieces, real estate, trusts, stock, "investments," etc. to avoid taxation, regulation, and scrutiny. On the flip side, if even 50% of their wealth went to the labor driving their companies, then you would see more diverse, but essentially similar investments in the economy. It would simulatenously destroy the "too big to fail," and overwhelming lobbying influence of a few, powerful actors.One Elon Musk, or 200,000 small investors?
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>>538869253>wealthjanet yellen decides what that means when she inflates asset bubbles with qe so wall street can buy more assets
>>538868725Also this. Now we have to go through and find out which of these people did monstrous criminal shit that would get them executed or life in prison, because being that rich gives you basically infinite chances to burn yourself out on any drug or adrenaline junkie experience you can imagine and chasing the dragon will lead to confronting all the taboos. And because that's blackmailable and manipulable, we have to find out which agencies are using them, how.
>>538866858Wealth inequality undermines trust in society which leads to instability.
The problem isn't Capitalism. It's Cartelism.
>>538866858>>538866904I'll reply seriously. Wealth centralization is a big issue, but billionaires shouldn't exist first and foremost from a legal perspective.You don't become a billionaire by working a million times harder than your average wageslave.You become a billionaire by exploiting millions of people in every way that doesn't get you (immediately) imprisoned. This includes but is not limited to:>Debts and interest>Bankrupt filing>Stock markets>Patents>Copyrights>Trademarks>Competition curbing >Anti-unionism>Lawfare>Political lobbying >Corrupt public agencies>Manufactured studies>Government subsidies>Tax loopholes>Offshoring>Outsourcing>Cheap slave labor>Mass immigration>Minimum wage>Forced insurances>False advertising >Aggressive advertising >Psychological manipulation >Chemical addiction>Planned obsolescence >Tangible assets hoarding>Eminent domain>Global consumer base>Hidden commissions>Customer data sale>HR departments>Unpaid overtime>Mass firingstl;dr: Billionaires bad. For real.
>>538866904No they dont they literally create innovation. Bryan johnson, elon musk, jeff bezos, sam altman, the lost goes on. Without them the countries tech would stagnate. If you have a problem with anyone it should be politicans and policy makers not fucking private business owners. Youre fucking licking boots when you oppose private ownership. Also its not like youre gonna fucjing make more money with them gone thats not how it fucking works the money just wouldnt exist in your market
Remember how Elon Musk paid someone to play video games for him and then pretended it was him who did it? What if that's billionaires... but with everything?
>>538870673Just about know I bet Elon is willing to give up his wealth just to have a normal son and a normal wife. Was it worth it?
>>538870455>If you have a problem with anyone it should be politicans and policy makers not fucking private business ownersThat is who I have a problem with. They don't restrain capital sufficiently. They take money from capital to win elections and then implement policies which benefit capital at our expense. Business is just doing what business is allowed to do. It's not their fault but ours for allowing it. Capital acts evilly, but that's its entire purpose. You can't blame capitalists for doing evil shit in the same way you can't blame a shark for biting -- both are essentially I/O machines designed to act according to their raw self-interest.A shark can't be a psychopath, even if you would call the indiscriminate violence and self-interest psychopathic if a human did it. Capital is the same way. If a human being acted like they do, we would call them psychopaths for the way they act. But they're not humans, and as such, we need to simply defend ourselves from their robotic, uncontrollable urges to accumulate wealth and power.
>>538871150>uncontrollable urges to accumulate wealth and power
>>538869829>she inflates asset bubbles with qe so wall street can buy more assetsEnd the Fed
>>538866858Wage theft isn't a crime and just because you did it a lot doesn't make it okay. Laws shouldn't only govern the poor.
>>538871609Additionally, most billionaires only exist because they receive tax-welfare from the remaining citizens. Why do they only get to benefit from communism?
>>538869253I don’t support a ceiling, I just want loopholes closed.If I’m a researcher and I apply for a $1K reimbursement to offset the $3K I paid out-of-pocket to fund a research trip, I get taxed three times - once on the original payroll I earned, once on the initial reimbursement payment, and then a third time the next tax year when I have to file that reimbursement as additional income. I received $4K but pay the equivalent taxes of receiving $5K.But if I’m a CEO and I apply for a $3B government subsidy and I spend it all on operating and development and my company makes a $1B profit, I can claim my company operated at a net loss. I received $4B but pay the equivalent taxes of losing $2B.That’s not a fair and equitable system.
>>538868226beautiful >>538868319and 100% this, as crooked capitalism is not capitalism
>>538866858nothing to do with commiesbillionairs can exist mostly because of one thing. fucking over your customer, as in, charging too much.you can find all sorts of excuses, mostly economic mind tricks. but if you sell your product for more than 15% profit, you need to be put in front of a firingsquad. you are a drain on humanity.filantropic billionaires can exist, though there aren't any yet I'm aware of. the ones we have now have so many skeletons in their closet, they willfully get lobotomized to forget. (all those black eye incidents)
>>538866858democracy cannot survive oligarchswe are effectively now a plutocracy not a democracylook al Elon rigging the 2024 electionours is a govt of by and for the oligarchs, the Kochs, Thiele, Musk, Murdochs, Waltons, Bezos etc etcThe Founders Key Idea - checks and balances against power, forgot about checking economic power, you would think the Supreme Court would understand that extremely simple idea, but you would be wrong
>>538871950
>>538872014We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.In Congress, July 4, 1776
>>538866858They will influence the government to be economically beneficial to them at the expense of the standard of living of the nations citizenry.
>>538872143Example:They will lobby the government to place regulation that would make it economically unviable for a competitor in the same industry to become legitimate competition to said billionaire.
>>538866858Two reasons to oppose the existence of billionaires. 1) There is essentially no moral way to have acquired that level of wealth in the first place, its always built on exploitation and inserting yourself as a middleman to leech wealth off of the actions of others while providing nothing of benefit yourself. Elon Musk didn't create Tesla, Twitter, SpaceX, etc. He just owns them. Real Estate moguls didn't build those houses they just flip them. And so on. They are essentially getting absurdly wealthy by claiming credit for other people's work in ways we have decided is legal, often while the people who actually did the work get fuck all in compensation.2) Even if we ignore the above point and say that it doesn't matter how they got their money, billionaires have an outsized ability to warp society around them using their vast wealth and so far they have almost universally used that power to the detriment of everyone else. They spend that money to buy politicians, rewrite laws, and make shit that we made illegal for a reason technically legal again so that they can extract even more predatory debt from us or dump poison chemical runoff into our drinking water without threat of legal consequence. Their ability to get away with these heinous actions is directly enabled by their vast wealth, and whatever benefit we get from occasional acts of charity from them in no way offsets the much greater harm they are regularly doing every day.
>>538872283As much as I hate Elon, he did create SpaceX. Still, good post.
>>538872283>oppose the existence of billionairesWhat is it with you people and kill this and kill that?
>>538866979>>538866904this.same reason that jewery is bad
>>538866904>wealth is finite
>>538866858Their blood and meat is tasty and nutricious
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>>538872405I imagine he means their wealth should be reduced, not that they should be killed.
>>538866858They rape children
>>538872542>wealth should be reducedWho’s gonna do that the government?What can possibly go wrong?
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>>538866858They do not innovate outside of new forms of rent seeking. They create jobs for foreign labor scabs and have domestic taxpayers subsidize the cost. They fly around in jets and tell you your car causes environmental damage. They are massive useless eaters bragging about "hard work" AKA being a sociopath in MS Teams all day.
>>538866858I don't care how much someone else gets, I care about how much I get. If I'm working full time I should be able to buy a house, a car, raise a family and save for retirement. Not having to share with strangers and have nothing left after expenses.
>>538867017I didn't exploit the africans out of their wealth and turn them poor, that would be the billionaires.
>>538872455It is, this is why currency printing causes inflation.
>>538872455Yes wealth is finite you dumb niggerThere is a finite amount of matter at our disposal and prices cannot drop arbitrarily low because if they did, an individual could purchase the entire supply of something and jack prices back upGrowth cannot be sustained indefinitely
>>538872118I applaud all of that.now wait for those reality twisters to interpret it...>>538871950>(all those black eye incidents)can you expand? :Phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmFpKNDjcpQ
>>538873038This
>>538869436speeding is rape
>>538866858The liberals who came here to shill in 2024 stayed around to seethe about losing it.
>>538866858TKD
>>538872664>>wealth should be reduced>Who’s gonna do that the government?>What can possibly go wrong?high marginal taxes, inheritance taxes, trust busting, it worked for 50 years before being dismantled by Reagan into plutocracy
>>538872664A massive wealth disparity in the US as ever more money and power became concentrated in the hands of an increasingly few number of people, who then turned around to leverage that money to acquire even more power. They intentionally created debt-traps to keep people in poverty while paying off politicians, and the american people lost faith in government because it did nothing for them and they got the same bullshit results no matter who they voted for because both the republicans and democrats worked for the same people. Guess what? I'm not describing tech bros in 2026. I describing the robber barons of 1870-1900. The so-called Gilded Age, though at this point we have to put a number on the end of that because we're in Gilded Age 2. Gilded Age 1 ended with a new political movement, not funded or controlled by the oligarchs, arising with popular support and forcing the existing political establishment to bend the knee or be cast into irrelevance, and what we got out of it was labor unions, worker protections, and the first ever income taxes on the rich.We've been here before, the government is the only entity on the field that CAN reign in the rich. Thats why they are so desperate to make sure its for sale so they can buy it. But that grift only keeps working so long as we continue for the political options that they present us, a genuine anti-wealthy political movement that doesn't take their money is the one thing that they actually fear because its the one thing that can hurt them in ways they care about: they money.
>>538867017>look at me, intentionally missing the point to make discussion impossibleeveryone has a certain amount of excess money that could go to helping someone less advantaged. "rent payment" is not part of that. The amount of excess a normal person has could be a low double digit number of dollars. A billionaire's excess is often times billions of dollars.
>>538873038>They do not innovate outside of new forms of rent seeking. They create jobs for foreign labor scabs and have domestic taxpayers subsidize the cost. They fly around in jets and tell you your car causes environmental damage. They are massive useless eaters bragging about "hard work" AKA being a sociopath in MS Teams all day.Elon's H1b army a case in pointWaltons wage suppression also
>>538866858>Be successful>never again have to contend with failure>failure being the greatest motivator and teacher >leads to stagnation, the dulling of the senses and innovative spirit>become so out of touch and complacent you no longer are capable crossing the finish line first but just delaying the race indefinitely>the crowd (your fans) has to sit in the stands and endure purgatory.I hate their complacency and lack of imagination. Not their wealth.
>>538873038And yet ones people cry about the most are Bezos and Musk. Bezos created a service that pretty much everyone has used at least once and nobody is pushing innovation as hard as Musk.
>>538873617They should be the ones leading by example; pushing better employee pay and benefits, giving back to the community, and paying reasonable taxes.
>>538867137false dichotomy, you can have a health capitalist system if it's well regulated
>>538867137>Communists steal all your shitwhen did that happen ?
>>538873617>Bezos created a service that pretty much everyone has usedBezos won the race to making the first general purpose online store. There isn't actually anything particularly special about amazon, its just the one that outcompeted the others. You make the website and you let other people sell stuff on it with you as a middleman, this is just a general store on a website. Someone was always going to make an online store that took advantage of the internet and didn't suck, Bezos just did it first.Does that one success 30 years ago entitle Bezos to infinite money forever, a neverending river of wealth that will continue to flow into his pockets for all time?
>>538874056Yes? If you create a service that people continue to use why should you not profit from that success?
>>538868888>If I made that much I could save more than that though so maybe even less. I would be grossing 800k a year which is truly an insane amount of wealth. That's like buying 3 houses a year or even 6 in a cheaper areaThat's what boomers did back then you unbelieveable fucking moron
We have universal suffrage and a majority of voters are uninformed low IQ retards, and it's legal for the ultra-wealthy to buy and trade businesses and media conglomerates to push their message and manipulate the masses. Limitless dollars can be pumped into every primary and general election to manufacture outcomes in all but the most lopsided races or when another candidate completely implodes. It's not 100% guaranteed that the rich get who they want in elections, but it's so close that it makes it impossible for the will of the people to actually be carried out by our elected representatives. MY vote is drowned out by the votes of 10,000 dipshit retards who saw an AI generated meme on facebook telling them how to vote. Your 100 dollar political donation is nothing compared to 10 or 20 or 50 million donated by AIPAC or some geriatric billionaire. And once they have their people in power they gain sweetheart deals and favors from the government. It's naked corruption, it's so blatant that even the average niggercattle normie doesn't even deny it's happening they just shrug and go "what are ya gonna do?" And then a few special needs boomers like OP call you a communist for bringing up what everybody already implicitly knows.
Just stop buying their crap. Is there any billionaire whose products and services aren't just cheap crap? Stop using them
>>538873617Bezos made a monopoly/monopsony complex. The things that made Bezos and Musk their fortunes are things that could easily be 'protocolized', so that the people get all the benefits but don't have to kick up a % to the boss to access it. The focus right now and for the last decade or more has been to make it so this doesn't happen. They can do this by paying legislators and regulators, they can do this by funding online groups to shit up anywhere without their moderators keeping order, they can do this by buying up any start-ups and folding their tech into the business. It's kind of like how torrents are a more efficient and effective way to distribute content than the streaming services, the only problem with torrents is that it isn't as easy to prevent people from using it. This is true of the systems behind amazon or twitter, the actual product/service would work much better without the business skimming from the top.
>>538867017what will you have after 500 years of feeding african babies?
>>538866858Multimillionaires lecturing the middle and poor class to complain about billionaires and not them will always make me laugh.
>>538874056>Does that one success 30 years ago entitle Bezos to infinite money forever, a neverending river of wealth that will continue to flow into his pockets for all time?In some sense yes it does. The key thing is that it's these 'rivers of wealth' that need to be taxed, not your working ass ass working the gig economy or the 9 to 5.
>>538870455>Bryan johnson, elon musk, jeff bezos, sam altmanNeither of them "innovated". Did Thomas Edison created the alternating current?
>>538871772Not only that, but if the CEO wants liquid cash, he can currently get it without generating a taxable event. He just calls up a banking executive, with whom he's probably on first-name basis, and avails himself of a service only available to people like him: he borrows tax-free against his assets. In so doing, he dodges an immediate tax bill, retains any control over those assets, AND defers the taxes due for the eventual sale of his assets to pay off the loan to estate law... which caps for beneficiaries at fucking $15m. The way America is currently set up is almost maximally corrupt with respect to the burdens placed on its weakest citizens relative to those placed on its most fortunate. Something has to give before it breaks, and it has to give fucking soon.
I see a lot of 2pbtid faggot OPs on here
>>538874056>Does that one success 30 years ago entitle Bezos to infinite money forever, a neverending river of wealth that will continue to flow into his pockets for all time?I don't begrudge Bezos his success - being the person who did the thing first doesn't make the thing any less significant. My problem is with Bezos and Amazon paying an effective tax rate of 1-2% on gains while actively receiving taxpayer subsidies in the form of grants and package delivery at the taxpayer's expense through the USPS (which, in spite of the growing fleet of Amazon trucks, still handles about 80-90% of Amazon's deliveries).Bezos getting an infinite river of money wouldn't bother me if he was actually paying his share of taxes. Same thing with Elon, Zuckerberg, Ellison, Page, and all the other billionaire CEOs. I'm not one of those people who thinks we should be grabbing wealthy people by the ankles and shaking out their pockets, but I think people who run businesses have a moral and ethical obligation not to be a huge piece of shit; you should treat your employees and customers well, offer your goods and services at a reasonable, non-exploitative rate, and provide for the public good.
>>538874056>Does that one success 30 years ago entitle Bezos to infinite money forever, a neverending river of wealth that will continue to flow into his pockets for all time?no, infinite money forever no, that is where a non corrupt congress make some laws, but wealth into his pockets meanwhile nobody makes something better and bankrupt his shit, yes... he and his offspring made it, who are we to decide that they must or not enjoy, or judge what their smart himself or grandpa or whatever achieved with his own merits under just laws and in compliance with the law? nah... problem is not ppl and their offspring enjoying their own achievements, problem is that meanwhile those mafia parasite crooks and their tv/x politicians make laws to erase the rivals, aka the small and middle business and self-employed and their employees, billionaires no...plutocrats.... they work together in plain sight fuckin the middle class way of living and their saved capital.... that's the problem, imagine you discover after a ton of work a cure for all the cancers, don't you deserve some kind of economic gain? a medal and go home like "lee chang chun", or how it works for you?If you ask me if "lee chang chun" as he discovered the cancer has some kind of divine right to corrupt the market, the laws, and politicians; to saturate everything with propaganda; to ally themselves with kings, monarchies, tyrannies, and the Vatican in order to bleed us all dry and create a sort of virtual funnel where all our sweat, savings, and effort end up concentrated in their hands, while the rest of us grow poorer???? Well, NOOOOOOO.
>>538866858It is a national socialist talking point, Chaim.
>>538873114>The U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing produces around 38 million notes daily, representing a face value of about $541 millionlmfao
>>538875409xDDD fren https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmUl76MotMs
>>538873319Based response, in human history, those who scatter away from the sinking ship (rats) first are the rich, and the ones who bribe the captain for the benefit are the rich.
>>538866858The most recent RAND Corporation working paper by Carter Price, updated in 2025, calculates that since 1975 a cumulative $79 trillion has been “redistributed upward“ from the bottom 90 percent of Americans to the top 1 percent.In 2023 alone, the transfer to the morbidly rich was $3.9 trillion, enough to give every working American a $32,000/year raise.Its a fishbowl and you have run out of water.
>>538866858Wealth accumulates wealth. It's how romans split into plebs and patricians and how later barbarians went from armed free people to armed land owners and disarmed serfs. Social elevators disappear. It's bad because people just get born in wrong class and want revolution because hard work will not get you anything.
>>538873266What cha doing rabbi?Fake News:>The crux of the theory is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from a Satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibalsDJT:>Is that supposed to be a bad thing???There are death cult members who want to take the world with them. They hide by calling them selves Jews. They manipulate the public so we see Jews doing shitting things. They are not. Then when the public gets pissed at innocent Jews the cabal springs into action claiming victim hood. Rinse and repeat QRDThe cabal transfers sins to the Jewish people then the cabal sacrifices themDo you think they do the dirty work? NoThey manipulate the host nation to hate them by pretending to be themOh the Jews don’t help things along either….. mah nepotism >Touch a Rothschild and revolutionary Jews utters his protest as it was a front to him selfHenry FordThey are under the same manipulation. That’s why all the Nazi propaganda. It’s not to insult us but to scare the Jewish people. >look your fellow countrymen hates you>You don’t want to make America great again that doesn’t include you do you? Rev3:9King James VersionBehold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
>>538866858This is literal glowie propaganda trying to keep people sucking billionaire cock
>>538874056I've worked for Amazon and they treat staff like slaves. I wouldn't care that he's rich if he didn't overtly ensure staff work like literal slaves. How the fuck he's gotten away with it is beyond me.
>>538873227Here's another example. They want you to think you're not part of the in-group if you question billionaire wealth hoarding
>>538875948I own the means of production but who says I’m sharing?Go fuck your self
>>538875409>but I think people who run businesses have a moral and ethical obligation not to be a huge piece of shit; you should treat your employees and customers well, offer your goods and services at a reasonable, non-exploitative rate, and provide for the public good.The way Bezos attains infinite money is by doing precisely the opposite of these things. He collects infinite money by abusing his employees, disciplining labor, busting unionization attempts, and generally being, ethically speaking, "a huge piece of shit," as you put it. You can't sit on the fence forever, anon. You have to choose which one of these things you're actually okay with. It's all well and good to hold those values or profess them, but at a certain point you have to actually bring them into contact with reality. Inaction, regardless of what you believe, is functionally indistinguishable from complicity. Holding a belief means nothing if you act opposite to it. Do you really hold a belief at all if you act otherwise? No outward observer can tell the difference.
>>538876152>How the fuck he's gotten away with it is beyond me.You see the people ITT simping for him and Musk? That's why. A lot of you like to take bribes to say stupid shit like this and never expect anyone to rip your teeth out with a wrench for being such an obvious plant.
>>538866858Billionaires are commies. Even lenin said establishing a central bank is 90% communizing a nation. If money was conformant to art 1 sect 8 clause 5 and aet 1 sect 10 clause 1 there wouldnt be a billion in circulation. Billionaires are slaves same as thr indebted- thats the "genious" of the rothschild system. Dont believe me? What billlionare actually acts like a free man? All of them are pushing bags up a hill
>>538876210That's my point - Bezos has his wealth. He won't suddenly lose his wealth by making reforms to his business model that benefit his employees and customers more - he'd just be reducing his deluge of infinite money down to a less revolting trickle of infinite money. The problem isn't with people becoming or staying billionaires, the problem is billionaires persisting in acting like exploitative shitbirds after becoming billionaires when they don't need to anymore.
