Isn't it weird how the topic of climate change has all the scientists on one camp, and only grifters, oligarchs and politicians on the other camp?It doesn't matter how much of a skeptic you are, there is just no denying how one side has less credibility by several orders of magnitude.
>>538873727Stop noticing now! It gets hotter, okk??
>>538873727Good news: if we actually did adult science, it gets colder stsrting 2028 onwards, for a couple of years; again
>>538873727Really makes you think huh?Only some big company shill or a literal schizophrenic would deny anthropogenic climate change at this point.
>>538873727Zoom out
>>538875914?
>>538873727Stop shilling your death cult; we get enough of that from everywhere else.
>>538873727the weather is getting hotter that's a fact but if these "scientists" are telling me to turn my AC off or calling for shutting down nuclear power plants they are useless niggers that's won't be taken serious
>>538876126>Stop shilling your death cultThe death cult is currently running US EPA :)>>538876244Scientists barely have any direct influence on politics. It's people's reactions to how science is reported by non-scientists that fuels political action.
>>538873727it is not man made, that's all
>>538876126Hiding your head under the sand of the future Eurahara desert won't make the problem go away.
>>538876396>>538876575That's ok, I know that nothing I say can convince you because your belief in man-made climate change ultimately rests on your trust in The Science. Just like how nothing you say will change my mind on the essential corruption of that entire field. It's true it's getting warmer though. Now since "everyone" already believes in climate change, and your governments will follow through changing the economies anyway, the least you could do is leave us alone instead of gloating about it like true homosexuals. I realize even this is too much to ask but it's still better to try than not to.
>>538876035Zoom out
There have always been mass extinction events. Nothing we can do about it. Numbers must go up!
>>538875744Ok it's changed now what? The biggest polluters really aren't changing anything, China and India. Why don't you go after them?
Does anyone think it's weird that suddenly every American celebrity stopped talking about climate change because "we need datacentres"?
>>538873727the topic is fucking irrelevant because it's only an excuse for policy that advocates would push for anyway (transfer of wealth from the west into socialist countries), just like how "muh children" is an excuse to spy on people
>>538876844nigger, your country literally polutes 3x more than Indian, and India has 1B people more than your country.Kill yourself, you filthy lying kike.China literally produces everything you use; your country doesn't even have industry anymore and is still nº 2 in pollution.Seriusly, eat glass.
>>538873727It's because of "climate change" that I lost all confidence in "scientists". The whole COVID bullshit made me lose any last shred of respect for "scientists".They say whatever who pays them the most wants them to say. The GloboHomo "Cult of Carbon" is paying the most right now (with YOUR tax dollars BTW).>>538876035Please point out on this picture where humanity touched your temperature naughty zones, Miss Earth Chan.
>>538873727lmao this faggot is literally dreaming that all le scientists support the fake co2 scamreminder there are plenty of scientists that are intelligent enough to call out this scam
>>538875744shut the fuck up and go back to your thread monitoring deaths for globohomo
>>538876035reminder that this image was debunked close to 20 years ago at this point
>>538873727Uhm it was colder last winter.This means there is no global warming.t. obese amerifat
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>>538873727>all the scientistsAll 97 of them (that they bothered to ask or bribe)
>>538876706>That's ok, I know that nothing I say can convince you because your belief in man-made climate change ultimately rests on your trust in The Science.Occam's Razor in action,>All scientists, worldwide, are corrupt.>Peer-review is corrupt.>Nations all around the world switching to green energy are just dumb.>Politicians, podcast-bros and /pol/ memes is where the real truth is at.>Conservatives in the US know more about climate science than the rest of the world and are much more honest about it.vs.>You've been lied to by politicians and billionaires.Either way, you're not conducting your own research, so you have no choice but to trust one narrative over another, and I hope to g-d, God, Allah, Vishnu and Buddha that you're not going to imply that YouTubers and MAGA know more about the environment than the rest of the world>>538876844China is pouring more money into green energy than Europe and the US combined.
>>538876942Nigger monkey carbon is a meme. Picrel
>>538877320>All climate scientists, worldwide, are corrupt.akshually truebecause anyone who doesnt agree cant be a climate scientist and are denied entry into the flaming homo party that is co2ismsthere's two types of tards that believe in co2isms:1- the tards that are akshually getting paid counterfeit money to promote these false unscientific claims2- the tards that are so tarded they cant figure out that these claims are false and unscientific
>>538877320>He's still going>It's a political ball game for himWell it was worth a shot, hopefully
>>538873727>all the scienists who's field has nothing to do with the weather agree!Its fake and gay
>>538877320>China is pouring more money into green energy than Europe and the US combined.China is severely energy deficient. They are investing in ALL energy types as a matter of national security. They are building coal plants, next to solar farms, next to nuclear reactors, next to hydroelectric dams, while trying to get fusion to work.
>>538876035Fake and gayThe last ice age was 400,000.years ago when NYC was under 100 feet of ice.We are still in the "ice age"
>>538877354>using as a source a "research institute" that is literally sponsored by BP.I know that genital mutilation in the early days of life can cause severe brain damage, but holy shit, are you that retarded?
>>538877119Funny when its reversed to faggot say tte opposite.So why did we have days when it was hotter a 100 years ago?
>>538877015One of the first things climate scientists are taught in university is the Earth's climate model in a non-anthropomorphic scope.That you think scientists are so stupid they don't know about Milankovitch cycles and other orbital conditions that lead to temperature peaks and depressions says a lot more about your intelligence.>>538877735Nice, let's see those graphs!
>>538877015>1000 thousand years before presentWhy the fuck do you think this timescale is relevant? We're seeing +4C temperature changes in a CENTURY. These multiple degree temperature changes on your graph take TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.How do you idiots not understand basic scale and rate? Earth won't be fine you fucking idiot, we don't have hundreds of thousands of years to evolve to our mistakes, only a hundred. JUST a hundred.All local graphs clearly show the problem >>538877122
>>538877470it would be pretty weird if you were like a hardware engineer and didn't believe in magnetism or a nuclear physcist not believing in nuclear fission
>>538877741Burgers ARE that retarded. Today's truthposts only confirms it furthermore.
>>538873727>all the scientists on one campwhy start your first sentence with a proven lie?>credibilitylink a single experiment showing the greenhouse effect of CO2 after Svante Arrhenius or SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>538878654>Show proof after the proof I rejectHow about you show his discredit or evidence the results can't be reproduced or shut the fuck up, instead? You don't just get to say something doesn't count
Not my problem.I won't be around to see any of the effects down the line so why should I care?
>>538878751not a single proof has been posted ITTplease link the comment containing "proof" that I refute
>>538877100>debunked by politicians and grifters who are distinctly not environmental scientists
>>538878810I'm not a climate scientist, but oddly the entire fucking field seems to agree with this man, so I think that's proof enough. Unless you for some fucking reason think an entire field agreeing with the same notion is a scam. Ask a scientist for the proof, not us. And stop relying on your own ignorance to try to determine the facts, you not understanding is not evidence there's no proof
fuck you your shit is gay and fake make me post proofBTW noone care about your retard-tier climate change
>>538878904>blah blah blahI reiterate:please link the comment that contains "proof" that I refuteyou have no arguments, no facts, nothing. The bare basis of "global warming" namely the greenhouse effect of CO2 after Svante Arrhenius has not been proven in a single experiment after 150 years
>>538873727> source trust me broLol, let me guess, more money and power for the government will fix it?
>>538878997I don't have proof, I'm saying that it's a complicated subject you need to be an expert in. Fucking read what I said and stop asking for something nobody here is qualified to give you and using that as proof your own ignorant ass is correctDo you have ANY idea how expertise works
>>538878654>link a single experiment showing the greenhouse effect of CO2 after Svante Arrheniuspeople replicate the experiment on youtube all the time. What's the issue?
>>538879075its not complicated at all actually>>538879081link a single scientific paperjust one. not 1500, not 200, not 50, not even 3, just 1
>>538878080this is just a strawman
>>538879193a 2nd experiment that shows the greenhouse effect? I've never felt the need to look. I'll get back to you.
>>538878892nice try faggotit was debunked by a professional statistician Steve McIntyre, who pointed out the tons of absolute statistical abuses employed with the yamal tree ring data by fraud Keith Briffa
>>538878998>Lol, let me guess, more money and power for the government will fix it?As opposed to doing nothing or even worse, reverting the bare minimum climate-conscious efforts? Yeah.The head of EPA is a nutjob who rejects climate science.The Secretary of Health is led by a nutjob who rejects high school biology.Your culpability in all this is spiritually worse than India's :D
>>538879193Have threehttps://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1127369#:~:text=Journal,Disclaimer%3A%20AAAS%20and%20EurekAlerthttps://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2020GL091585https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2015/02/25/co2-greenhouse-effect-increase/#:~:text=Additional%20information%3A,Berkeley%20Lab's%20Earth%20Sciences%20DivisionFeel free to say this doesn't count or something, I already know you won't care. You decided there's no evidence and no evidence will change that view
>>538879399Lol, exactly"I cant prove anything, but we need to give the goverment more power and money"How much is enough for you?
>>538875369>stop noticingI won't stop noticing that it's getting hotter every year and I won't stop noticing that corporations will gleefully asphalt nature if it means an extra penny in their pocket.
>>538879075>I'm saying that it's a complicated subject you need to be an expert in.one does not need to be an expert to notice that when TSI omits solar flares, CMEs, and the solar proton stream, it has created an artificial gap in the equations that were then filled by overinflating GHG coefficientsAnthony Watts btfo'd the measurement citing issuesSteve McIntyre btfo'd the hockey stickClimategate btfo'd Michael Mann & Gavin Schmidt lamenting that the warming signal had completely disappeared and then further revealed that they came up with a trick to hide this - the trick being to stop using real temps (this is why no recent graphs contain real temps, they contain temp anomaly) and then mess with the baseline so as to make sure its the hottest year evah, every single fucking yearAnd even that all was not enough and at this point they are on to further falsifying things by constantly showing the totally fake & gay humidex instead of akshual temps
>>538879564when were most heat records set un the US?almost 100 years ago, moron.
>>538873727>scientiststhe biggest liars and grifters of all
>>538879193>>538879349did a quick google search tells me that people have used other greenhouse gasses and found the same effect. More modern experiments focus more on the a nuclear level of what is happening. and the happening is something like this.
>>538873727The elites won't do jack shit and are building bunkers around the globe to survive the food riots. You're right about climate change but so what? You're just wasting what time you have left shouting into the void, it's not like there'll be some mass movement forcing their hands in time to change the outcome. The timeline is still fluid enough you might be old or dead before the real collapse happens (depending on how old you are now).
>>538879548>I can't prove anything, but we need to give oligarchs more power and money so they can lobby the government into doing whatever they wanthow much is enough for you?
>>538879349Here's some completely uncontroversial facts for you, afaik denied by noone on the believer side, but rounded to order of magnitude cause I can't remember>temperature increase is proportional to the logarithm of CO2, so doubling would produce a constant increase>at present rate the amount of CO2 will double around 2250>This doubling will increase radiative forcing by about 4 W/m2 on top of our current 1400 W/m2, about 0.3%>How much temperature increase this will cause depends on "climate sensitivity", an (assumed) linear factor that can be "estimated" by running climate models of the earth's climate And it is precisely at this point where climate science departs from a benign observation of a simple gas-radiation model a la spherical cow, to clown world
>>538879546>https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2015/02/25/co2-greenhouse-effect-increase/#:~:text=Additional%20information%3A,Berkeley%20Lab's%20Earth%20Sciences%20DivisionSo here we have the sun putting more into the surface of the earth because of the waning magnetic field, and these assholes set on a crusade to explain it with co2Face it, its a predetermined conclusion and all efforts are put towards proving the predetermined conclusion as opposed to using the scientific method to find the most correct explanation
>>538879627> one does not need to be an expert to notice that when TSI omits solar flares, CMEs, and the solar proton stream, it has created an artificial gap in the equations that were then filled by overinflating GHG coefficientsThis is ABSOLUTELY something you need to be an expert in. I don't know their reasons and neither do you, you're literally just assuming the reason is fucking grand conspiracy and you don't know jack shit about solar fares and CMEs to know what they do and don't do.You're a complete imbecile. First road to intelligence is to know when you don't know something and not dunning-kruger yourself into a viewpoint that's in direct contradiction to an entire goddamn field of science that absolutely nobody can publish a paper refuting even if they tried.
>>538873727>trust the science...
>>538879564>its the corporations fault>let's listen to the mouthpiece of the corporations, the WEFthe cogdis is deafeningand not even noticed by the shills
>>538879548The evidence is just one Google search away.Citing studies won't net me anything since this topic is so deeply covered that refusal to do your own research means you'll just be wasting my time with nitpicks and uneducated remarks .>>538879653>I trust politicians and Instagram influencers more than scientists.Extreme brainwashing in progress.
>>538879686But, you have utterly no proof.Just claims.You want massive changes in people's lives and higher costs for everything for you white knighting.Fuck that.
>>538879717reminder that once you hit 400ppm, the space where you are on the log curve is getting into asymptote range where each additional ppm is has a statistically meaningless addition
>>538878009>Why the fuck do you think this timescale is relevant?I know you are just uneducated but you know what a local and global minimum/maximum is? a model? and that erf is billions of years old and you cant just discard 99.99999% of all data (which sparsely exist in the first place and very questionable) to cherry pick so you can steal money from the tax payer
>>538873727Notice how it's always normal people who need to use less energy but not billionaires, celebrities, and politicians with their private jets and mansions. It's also convenient that data centers that use more power than some states never seem to be an issue either.Keep getting your COVID vaccines, OP. The science says it'll keep you from killing grandma so it must be true.
>>538879631you must be brown.
>replace suburbia lawns with trees>temperature drops>Huh.If we're gonna say anthropogenic climate change is real, we should stop with the single cause faggotry. Complex systems, y'know.Anyways, deserts are human made.
>>538879814>hurrr durrr guggle it durrrThis is why the younger generation is fucked.Do you think google gives you honest unbiased information?If so i have a bridge in Brooklyn ill sell you.
>>538879758If you have a refutation to their work, go publish it and get your nobel prize dipshit. You're talking out your ass, and you have no authority or facts to back you.>Appeal to authority!And you're an appeal to nothing at all, at least they have data they collected
>>538879770>you don't know jack shit about solar fares and CMEs to know what they do and don't doahahahaahahahahahahahahahathe sheer levels of cope>these are meaningless transientsno, this is scientific fraud
>>538879814>>I trust politicians and Instagram influencers more than scientists.>Extreme brainwashing in progress.they are the same picture
>>538879785>technically, if you go back to millions of years, the extremely rapid increase in temperatures in the last few decades is unremarkable.:D
>>538879875Yes, and the mechanism for capturing/reflecting radiation is not really linear either since the gas can get saturated at certain frequencies. But most believers don't know any of that stuff anyway so it's distracting to mention.
>>538879907>earth's climate is in homeostasisSince when?Prove it's manmade.
What's the solution, erase India, China and Africa?Science has no fix, and neither would the other
>>538879907That graph is fake and gay faggot
>>538879956>If you have a refutation to their work, go publish itit is a fact that when work comes out that btfos these co2 memes, it is rejected and then the protest becomes>but its not even peer reviewed>and by peer reviewed, we mean pal reviewed by those who must uphold the flow of grant money
"climate change" is real insofar as the climate does change.It is not being driven primarily by humans.Our oceans are warming from the bottom, and dramatic climatic changes can be observed throughout our entire solar system that are unprecedented.Think about the amount of energy this system can input and output and our relation in size - a single hurricane will output more joules of energy than humans will expend in an entire year.
>>538880032>erase ChinaLet's erase the UK!>>538877320
>>538875744Only a faggot would keep bringing it up without the solution of killing all Muslims is a good start then to remove humans guess gotta do. You just want to sound like smart and doing something but just as bad as those other fucks just talks shit
>>538878009Even if every human turned into an ecologist overnight, it would still be over.There's too much inertia, we are going into terra incognita because climate models can't predict shit beyond 2 degrees celsius.Our specie was doomed the day it discovered oil. We have a few generations left then we're done.We're not passing the great filter. We managed to get to space before bowing out, so that's something at least.
>>538880005>its a distraction to mention ways in which the co2 meme is btfoclimate fags are absolutely desperate
>>53887372750 years ago they measured temperature using unreliable means and it was right between 3 cities.Today they measure temperatures in the same spot with accurate means but there's an airport there.Comparing temperature measurements over time is not reliable.
>>538880127>Our specie was doomed the day it discovered oil.its amazing that retards smugly state such bullshit, fully believing it, without realizing they are just a retard
>>538873727I simply can't give a fuck German bro because all your austerity, your green tech, your muh climate, muh EU must make everything green doesn't mean JACK SHIT.If just India and Iliterlaly mean just India pumped more into the athmosphere and the US and EU savings combined. And China actually pumped in what the US and EU combined do at their peak.
>>538879907>people see graph>brain stops workingevery. single. time.
>>538879881Do YOU know what a local and global minimum/maximum is? If the earth is billions of years old and 99.999999% of all data shows SLOW changes in temperatures over THOUSANDS OF YEARS, why do you think it's this same system when we see sharp changes over HUNDREDS.Am I insane or what? How do you not understand this? Why are you calling me uneducated for noticing that changes on a hundreds of years timescale that usually take thousands isn't fucking normal or okay? Please explain to me where the hell I went wrong. This isn't cherry picking, it's an unprecedented change where the only differing factor is us dumping a shitload of chemicals into the atmosphere
>>538880176>thousands of scientists corroborating evidence worldwide are stupid, but I am smart for pointing out some random fact that I read somewhere.Nah, more likely you just don't understand shit :)
1975: The world is cooling. And yes mankind is to blame>https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2007/11/common-climate-misconceptions-1970s-global-cooling-concerns-lacked-todays-scientific-rigor-and-relevance/>Falling global temperatures from 1940 to 1975 were one of the prime drivers of popular concern about global cooling. We now know, and suspected at the time, that the cooling was indeed strongly influenced by humans as a result of industrial emissions of aerosol particles (see Wikipedia).
>>538880141They are not interested in discussing the science because they are convinced something like that is better left to the experts, who can not be wrong because what they do is Science with Peer Review. They will accuse you of being a trotskyist lying scumbag conspiritard before they will engage in talking about the science or the stats or the models or whatever else is supposedly unanimous.
>>538880176forgot related imagealso China pollutes more than US+EU+India combined but they are never ever mentioned by activists
>>538873727GOOD HEAVENS! LOOK AT ALL THAT ORANGE!
>>538880106We're fucking crippling ourselves with net zero, wouldn't take much me dumb auld krautniggerThe point is supposedly Carbon emissions, where jeets and chinks sit way at the top. Just threw the wogs in there because why not
>>538880255trollolling is against the rules you know
>>538880237>all the proxies strip out transients>its no big deal for us to paste dissimilar data sets together like what produced the hockey stick>LOOK AT THESE TRANSIENTS WE MEASURED!but we already know that retards dont know they're retarded
>>538880298oldfag here, i've heard this stupid shit since the 80's back then it was a new ice age incoming.
>>538877320That doesn't mean they don't use the most oil and coal.
>>538880280I like to troll these scumbags that have 0 respect for the scientific method
>>538880237you are an idiot. even if we assume the data is accurate this is just a representation of an underlying system of a complexity we cannot even comprehend. the only way to model is to create a model that fits ALL data to even begin to approximate anything truthful. if you just cherry pick and take a small sub-set it is called pseudo science. in any other field you would get laughed out of the room except climate retardation
>>538880227>And China actually pumped in what the US and EU combined do at their peak.Sigh.- China has a much higher population than the US and EU combined- US and EU are outsourcing their manufacturing to China- China spends more money on green energy than the US and EU combinedStop being an idiot.
>>538880355Calling someone calling you out for being full of shit 'trolling' then threatening to forcefully end the thread with reports is peak conspiracytard intellectual honesty xD
>>538880278https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bams2370_1.xmlIt's bullshit, it was never anything but a fringe belief that got into sensationalist media in the 70s. They never HAD proof. There was no published data on these findings in the first place, much less a scientific consensus.
>>538880464>china #1 environmental countryFucking lol. You're completely disingenuous.Shall we look into how the belt and road treats those who mine for them and how they leave the site therafter?
>>538880432There's no point. They are not here to discuss the matter they are here to yell at nazi bigot conservatives or whatever. Even if something they read here makes sense to them they won't let it change anything, because it would imply that, as they say, "the entire scientific field of climate science, all its prestigious institutions, and all western governments are conspiring to lie and cover up", which of course is true but unthinkable in their world. Sure, oil companies can pay for nothing but fake research, but the GREEN INDUSTRY would never do such a thing as lie for grant money, nor would governments accept iffy "science" if it came with a pretty power point and promises of globohomo communism
>>538880557>they never had proof, but they do nowlol, lmao >it was just sensationalist media back then, its totally not nowLMAO>NO DONT MENTION THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELDof course not, this is why they measure TSI from space and ignore the real reason why the climate is changing
>>538880589>You said a thing that I was taught is the complete opposite of reality!!Silly Amerimutt.
>>538873727>>538875744> anthropogenicThere is no evidence for this. If there was any evidence, any at all, it wouldn't be necessary to point out what a majority of scientists allegedly believes*. Even the strongest belief doesn't prove it's truth but only it's strength.* The Cook study claiming this has been debunked and yet this lie is constantly repeated ad nauseam in mass media.
Scientists are state employees. State employees favour totalitarian governments because it gives them power and job security. You do the maths.
>>538873727you'll never convince the deniers of anything. they don't mind paying out the ass for all other sorts of taxes, but for climate change? oh nooooo!
>>538880464You can spend as much as you like, wouldn't change the raw cause (as it's presented)So what's the fix, Heinrich
>>538880447If you can account for any other factors the entire field of climate science is missing, by all means go publish and get famous. DipshitThe confidence of you retards knows no bounds
>>538880711Let me guess, no Abitur?
>>538880696This stupid fucker just blindly trusts ccp numbers.Why would a "kraut" act like a wumao?
>>538876035Wow! One (1) whole Degreenerino Celsius? We are going to melt! Quick! let us receive 25 million pajeets!
>>538880752reminder that TSI is the original fraud of climate science>see it hasnt gone down, we measured it from space and dont even take into account the magnetic field!this is just more lies from the science denying crowd that believes fake things about co2
>>538879717I mean as you said above, neither of us are likely to change our opinion on this but you are saying here that co2 is a greenhouse gas or just pointing out that even it it is it doesn't make enough of a difference to worry about?I'm basically of the opinion now that there is no way we can stop the warming we're getting but unless one of the solutions is full retard I don't see the point of fighting it. The wrost part is not going to be the direct effect on the west but the side effect of a billion 'climate refugees' trying to get here.
>>538876396Oy vey goyim trust the science
>>538880195Normies said exactly the same thing when they learned about heliocentrism and that the earth was round.Our specie loves burning shit and won't stop anytime soon. Enjoy the ride while it lasts normalfreund
>>538880752anyone who has successfully passed kindergarten can see that modern climate "science" is political motivated pseudo science.
>>538876035> hockey stick curveEven if it had not been modeled from manipulated data by Michael Evan Mann but from raw data it wouldn't show any causality.
>>538880889climate refugees are fake and gay, they are sourced by NGOs as a proxy means of invading countries and altering their demographicsthere are NO akshual climate refugeesreminder that ALL gasses insulate and retain heat, it is a primary attribute of an atmosphere and the reason we dont go to -300 degrees every nightco2 is a balancing mechanism and also a temperature response mechanismthis is simple physicsincreasing temp makes gasses less solubledecreasing temp makes gasses more solublethis is why the ppm of co2 is a temperature response mechanism, it cannot possibly be a driver of the climate
did you know that the more co2, the more plants grow. huh crazy right?!
>>538880814I trust nothing. De omnibus dubitandum est.
>>538880889CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and the basic mechanism of the "greenhouse" is undisputed, in the sense that capturing/reflecting radiation at certain frequencies can happen and increase the relative radiative forcing of the surface. To what degree this is caused by CO2 is difficult to say, but one can do some napkin math. To what degree the temperature is affected by this, you need a model of the climate (including oceans and clouds and vegetation and blah blah), and this is not science. >But it's the best we've gotToo bad. Also, nobody disputes the warming of the earth or the possible warming of the earth. We don't and can't know if it's cause of CO2 though; in fact given the napkin math of greenhouse effects we are almost certain the warming is not from that alone. Remember the little ice age? Nah better not. Also, it is known that the proxies that have been used to estimate temperatures from before there were thermometers are horrendous, and were lied about. So that doesn't help those fancy powerpoint graphs either.All this writing is moot though and I know it's moot, because the essential question is political, and the believers simply trust that the institutions to which they have delegated Science will not be compromised. Of course there's that nagging problem of the social "sciences" and psychiatric research and tranny studies and... but oh well, just another day in the amygdala-rotted life
>>538880227This graph is somewhat misleading. What percentage of Chinese emissions come from US/EU corporations operating there?Nations are not a good indicator of who's responsible for climate change. A better yardstick would be a MSCI world index for CO2.
>>538881170>the basic mechanism of the "greenhouse" is undisputed, except for that whole matter of there not being a glass ceiling up above the earth>but its totally close enough, just ignore that huge discrepancy
>>538880464>- China has a much higher population than the US and EU combinedSo does India? Africa? Per Capita China is doing as badly as France. They're horrible. BTW Germany is higher per Capita then China.>US and EU are outsourcing their manufacturing to ChinaLiterally yes and? By the time China reachers peak CO2 it's going to be too late you do realize that? It's over. It's fucked. >China spends more money on green energy than the US and EU combinedToo fucking late. It's going to take them until 2070 to actually get their shit together.Croatia is mogging everyone by Co2 per Capita. Why should I listen to you dirty Germans?All your policies and plan are irrelevant, the reason we should move to Nuclear and Electricity is fucking not being slaves to Russia, Midlde East or US on fucking Gas and Fuel. You have your priorities totally fucked. The CO2 bullshit is over. China cannot be stoped. The climate isn't changing it has changed. It's time to adapt and it's time to get ACs, it's time to prepare Europe for droughts and have water reseourwars and flood protections and mudslide protections. I like the funding on public transport, electric based technologies but I like them for the totally oposite reason you climate brainrot mongoloid retards. You think it's 1960s and the world is just Western Europe and US and maybe there Japan. The world is China, India, EU, US and in 20 years it's going to be Africa absolutely fucking blasting everyone with CO2 from coal power. So is Indonesia. EU needs to stop funding bullshit non relevant technolgies like non removable bottle caps and paper straws and start anti drought mesures for farmers, irrigation projects, water diversion, There no fucking ICE in the alps anymore, rivers are drying up start fucking projects to store water over the year. The climate change era is over it was in the 1990 and the world allowed China to become the single biggest polluter in history.
>>538881283>The CO2 bullshit is overwe've been telling you tards this for 25 years now
>>538881267Dunno what you're saying. An atmosphere can reflect and capture radiation, in the same way that the sky is blue.
>>538880936PLEASE tell me who has money into funding climate scientists to tell you that oil and coal burning is bad.Use that conspiracy addled brain and think who benefits. It's not the united states. It's not china. It's not israel. It's not the rest of the middle east. They all fucking love oil.
>>538881343a greenhouse relies on the glass ceiling to separate the internal atmosphere from the external onethere's no glass ceiling up there to keep the hot air in, retardthe greenhouse effect is a misnomer
>>538873727>Investors, for some reason, still spending money on real estate in coastal cities and small islands that will be underwater
>>538881322You haven't been telling me I was always in it for the electrical technology, trains, trams, trolley busses, nuclear energy, solar.I want an energy independent EU.
>>538881464>PLEASE tell me who has money into funding climate scientists to tell you that oil and coal burning is bad.acting clueless about grant writing needing to be done in a certain way so that free monies can be had to promote fraud just makes you look dumb
>>538881471...yeah, the atmosphere is analogous the glass. What the fuck?
>>538881267If there was no greenhouse gases and this effect earth would be as dead as mars. We're not nearly close enough to the sun to enjoy our temperate range without an atmosphere. We'd have to be 30% closer to the sun and there is one such planet it's called Venus.
>>538881170>CO2 is a greenhouse gasNo its not.Only so far as you can suffocate at night in a greenhouse from low oxygen.
>>538881487>I want an energy independent EUuntil globohomo allows the release & implementation of Nikola Tesla's free energy, that's quite simply not going to happenthe reason is because globohomo is hellbent on fleecing the plebes as much as possible, so paying for energy that could be had for free is just one way they keep us worrying about rent and food on the table instead of how they are stealing from everyone and counterfeiting money and having wars to keep people distracted from their counterfeiting ops
>>538881524show me a greenhouse that has glass from the floor all the way to the ceiling
>>538881600>If there was no greenhouse gases and this effect earth would be as dead as mars.are you that retarded that you dont realize all gassses trap some amount of heat?Mars' atmosphere is 96% co2, why isnt it much hotter there?
>>538881618>>538881658Do you or your better half agree or disagree that gas molecules can capture heat radiation and send it back to Earth? I don't care to argue about whether a greenhouse is an appropriate metaphor, and neither should you
>>538881600>We'd have to be 30% closer to the sun and there is one such planet it's called Venus.reminder the 96 bar of pressure is why Venus is so hotand where the pressure is about 1 atm, the temp is about 140F, and its only that hot from heat radiated from below
>>538873727Reminder that Green Energy is just Envy.
>>538881725so tell us, just how many times is it acceptable to count the same energy?
>>538881658If the entire earth is a greenhouse why do people build greenhouses? Seems redundant.If people care so much about "excess" CO2 why dont they care about garbage floating in the ocean that kills plankton (the biggest CO2 scrubbers).
>>538879395>professional statisticianhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McIntyrewikipedia calls him a mining exploration company director though
>>538881803A possibly infinite number of times, but the additional reflections will of course cause exponential decay, leading to an easily summable amount of extra radiative forcing compared to bare solar radiation. That's actually a high school soap bubble type sum anon
>>538881283> Africa absolutely fucking blasting everyone with CO2 from coal powerBold of you to assume they won't be killing each other's instead of doing an industrial revolution
>>538881520I'm telling you that the biggest powers in the world have a MUCH, MUCH bigger incentive to tell you oil is bad, and the only people with evidence, as OP stated, are the scientists in opposition to the superpowers of the world. Use your goddamn head.
>>538881213Not even half probably.You people are forgeting basics here. China is the bigest urbaniser and big goverment project builder in the world. I'm sorry to say Timmies little Nintendo and since oyu're french Angelinas little plastic dodat toy don't consume a lot of energy to be produced. You know what does? Construction materials. Cement, Acids, Pavement, Steel, Aluminum, Copper, Tiles, all of these needs insane amounts of heat. Think what products you get from China, they're not heavy ass Steel Cars or Trains or Concrete. You're getting lightweight small end products, these simply do not use much CO2. Here some pre Rona numbers. As you can see 50% of all Chink CO2 is Heating and Electricity and this mean refining. 10% is transport. A lot of this is domestic plane flights, only 4% is Residental. China is mostly using CO2 to build it self up.
you know climate alarmism is fake and gay because the people pushing it don't even believe it themselves. if they actually thought global warming was an existential threat like they say they do they would all be pushing to nuke china and india, not banning light bulbs or making it illegal to idle your car.
>>538881725>I don't care to argue about whether a greenhouse is an appropriate metaphorCO2 levels change after temperature changes retard. And its a shitty psyop phrase to scare people.>well its reallly hot in greenhouses and we are all going to fry if we dont use our own piss to make coffee!
>>538881977How much CO2 for a life sized silicon sex doll?
>>538873727"Was ist eine Wärmezeit?"Etwas verhindern wollen bzw erhalten - "konservieren", was so oder so kommt ist ein wenig wie die Konservativen, die du Negerlein so hasst, nicht?
>>538882089What does any of that have to do with the fact of capturing radiation that I EXPLICITLY LAID OUT in my post? I agree that greenhouse is a propaganda term.
>>538881711Because Mars so called Atmosphere has the presure of 0.088 psi. Pounds per Square Inch for you Americans. As in the pressure these gasses exert on anything. Maris is basically a bigger vacum then most of our Vacum flasks here on Earth.Earth Pressure is 14.696 psiDo you understand what pressure is? It's the weight of the gas acting on it's environment via gravity. This is why near sea level the pressure on earth is the highest because this is where the density of the atmosphere is the greatest. This is also why the lower you go into the ocean the more the above water presses on you. For your reference Fluid and Gasses behave the same way when it comes to pressure.
>>538881870>why do people build greenhouses?one of the biggest reasons aside from keeping weather out is.....to increase the amount of co2 in the air
>>538881904>A possibly infinite number of timesjust so long as you admit there's double counting going on
>>538882342It's not double counting, it's a simple sum to calculate the effective radiation on a surface. If you think of a glass pane with a certain thickness, the amount of light that gets reflected is similarly the result of a possibly infinite number of reflections. There's nothing shady about that. The shadiness comes in when you then proceed to handwave "climate sensitivity" into a change in temperature. That is bullshit
>>538873727you europeans sure are petulant children. You can't adapt to changing circumstances, only cry and blame others.
>>538882058The problem I have is it's never enough and stuff always needs to be cut or something.Here the plain example. We swtiched from Resistve Bulbs to LEDs. This was a x10 to x20 saving per bulb in every building and street in the world. There were about 5% drops in electricity consumtion on country scales. Another 5% was with the new regulations on appliance standards and invention of efficent switches for inverters. Meaning your ACS, Fridgers, Washing Machines and shit operate 20~50% more efficiently. So Europe and America saved about 10% TOTAL electricity consumption by doing these. AMAZING. This is crazy good thats on a country scale gigantic. And on a continental scale we saved like Terrawats of power.And was this enough? Nope. Sorry we must ban plastic straws and bags because THE ENVIRONMENT.
>>538882210Ok fine. Higher CO2 is an effect of warming climates, not the cause.Here are faggots pretending there would be less heatwaves if there was no carbon emissions.>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09450-9>Overall, one-quarter of these events were virtually impossible without climate change. ]
>>538881170>Remember the little ice age?That was a european thing not global. the warming in OP, the "global warming" is global. on radiative forcing there are loads of things going on but looking at co2 even .3% increase on 1400w/m2 is substantial over time. Billions. Trillions even Joules a day. This heat has to go somewhere and that where looks like the ocean.
>>538883228The little ice age is actually the natural temperature of the European continent when it's not warmed by the Atlantic winds/water currents.
>>538883228>Billions. Trillions even Joules a day. This heat has to go somewhereNapkin math is more impressive when you actually do the math. Has to go somewhere is meaningless. You wanna napkin math your way to climate sensitivity? That 0.3% of radiation, is it gonna be 0.03% or 3 degrees global temperature?
>>538881283climate doomer take but not wrong.
>>538883368preferable, maybe niggers and shitskins will move away, when its constantly cold again. :)
>>538882755If not the greenhouse effect where's the extra heat coming from?
>>538880538i just said i recognize what you're doing
>>538883817Bro do you not even know the "accepted science" behind pre-industrial climate change?
>>538883464meaningless how? the extra heat isn't leaving at the same rate it is accumulating or we wouldn't have global and oceanic warming.Show me another mechanism.
>>538875369The sun gets hotter every year, yes.
>>538884408Meaningless as in doesn't tell you anything. Yes extra heat has to go somewhere, and what will this do to the global temperature? Do you realize even your side does not dispute that there is something they call "climate sensitivity" ?
>>538875744No, all the subhuman retarded faggots who worship corporations and Mammon will always deny it, because accepting the obvious means you’re a useful idiot who helped fuck up the entire planet and are objectively evil. No one wants to think of themselves like that. They’ll always cope about it, say anyone who understands the atmosphere, greenhouses, and how Venus became so fucked up is a religious shill who worships Big Science TM, which is very ironic given that they are almost always 100% of the time Christcucks who believe in invisible magical superbeings with no evidence. But you’re the one in a cult, teehee.
>>538884153volcanoes. Solar anomolies. massive wildfires. Loads of things can cause climate change on a global level. It has happened if living memory with eruptions. I don't dispute there can be other factors but gon give me some examples.
>>538884525you seem to be missing the distinction between watts and joules. The energy the earth is absorbing is increasing, even if you dismiss the sigficance of a .3% change. Have you any mechanism to show me for the earth to dissipate this extra heat?
>>538884819Nevermind, you're a nigger talking out of your ass. No I don't misunderstand the units of radiative forcing. Go read the wiki page about climate sensitivity and stop posting.
>>538884525>"climate sensitivity"the ability of the earth to deal with the increasing average temp is reduced across the board by things like deforestation and desertification.
>>538880715Reminder this graph shows an inverse correlation between solar irradiance and temperature change, and that it is a bad-faith argument for trying to disprove the cosmological events that are unfolding and having measurable effects on every heavenly body in our solar system, not just Earth
>>538873727>there is just no denying how one side has less credibility by several orders of magnitudethere is. You can fill football stadiums with end-of-the world predictions that turned out false. entire continents were predicted to be submerged by now. climate scientists jobs depend on climate panic. One example out of thousands : US Glacier national park was covered in signs that said the ice would be gone by 2010. The signs saying this were still up in 2023. The signs were replaced with new ones that say the ice will be gone by 2040. The ice grew, by the way, glaciers got bigger.The issue climate fags have is if you predict the imminent end of the world every year for half a century, people stop listening and assume you're full of shit, because you are. Had the warnings been reasonable, people would not have stopped listening, you fucked up. The United Kingdom was predicted to be entirely submerged by the year 2000, its still there though.
>>538884884come now genious. give this tard another explanation for the observed surface and oceanic warming we agree be happening.You seem to know it all so impress me.
>>538885051Are you old enough to have enjoyed climate gate
>>538880689>>538880760hahahaha ahmed is mad he doesn't have air conditioning and rides around the loser cruisers instead of car.get fucked and listen to your kike (((scientists))) feed you more bullshit. I bet you also believe them when they say mass immigration is a good thing for society.
>>538885272>>538885152my dude you clearly want to debate so what is your mechanism behind the observed warming?
>>538873727it is far from "all", even after the hivemind has taken down tenured professors.sadly for you, science isn't democratic anyway.t. real life scientist
>>538885687What's worrying though is that while the "soft" sciences could potentially be spun off as separate institutions, since they already have no contact, the fact that climate science has embedded itself inside the supposedly hard sciences means their reputations are now inextricably linked
>>538885687>my dude you clearly want to debate so what is your mechanism behind the observed warming?
>>538885272Yes. Al Gore's an inconvient truth was the worlds most widely viewed documentary, it still is. This was 20 years ago. Looking at it now is like a bad comedy sketch, its 90 minutes of predictions all of which turned out the be false. Not one prediction in that documentary with "settled science" actually happened, not a single one.The problem climate fags have is people have memories, predictions of the past are available now, all of it was settled science, none of it happened. So why would anyone believe it now? A logical result of gross exaggeration is people stop listening, this applies to anything.
>>538873727>picMind telling us whose ass this data was pulled from?
>>538885830why are you @ing me you shitskin?
>>538885874They do have that problem, but their solution is the same as for many other leftist causes: educate the children. There are now zoomzooms who have no clue about the history of climate science, and will have to rely on their own intuition or experience as to whether these institutions are trustworthy. We both know that once a person has a true falling out with this kind of thing, there is no going back. But everyone is raised a believer
>>538885687>>538885814come on. surely 2 scientists will be able to offer an explanation for global warming that in no way includes co2 and can be demonstrated.
>>538885894>shitskinonly a dark mind goes straight there. statistically I'm 50% whiter than you.
>>538885894Because you’re a retard talking out your ass and he wants to debate you to expose your retardation, retard. Can you really not figure that out?
>>538886108lollmao evenok achmed
>>538881952>I'm telling you that the biggest powers in the world have a MUCH, MUCH bigger incentive to tell you oil is bad, and the only people with evidence, as OP stated, are the scientists in opposition to the superpowers of the world.>the scientists in opposition to the superpowers of the world.>the superpowers of the world.>the scientists in opposition to the WEF & Globohomo....oh, wait...holy shit this faggot is literally so braindead he doesnt understand globohomo's role
>>538880752>uuuh actually the thing that was predicted to happen like 50 years ago and did happen is incredibly mysterious and unpredictablethese are gonna be worse than flat earthers I swear
>>538886013you are the one making the positive claim, the burden of proof is on you
>>538882261>its cold on mars because of its super low atmospheric pressure>its super hot on Venus because of co2 and not because of atmospheric pressureI've had too many climatefags tell me Venus was hot because of co2, lmao
>>538885687>>538885894>>538886301>Enters global warming bot thread>never once talks about subject>picks fight with the one human still arguing with the other bots ITTyou're a robot.>inb4 new IDbot
>>538886166excuse me...i'd like to ass you a few questions
>>538882443>counting things multiply isnt double countingthere is only net flow, retard
>>538886479>has skin the color of poop>thinks its humanawwww
>>538879785>actkshually billions of years ago the earth was a ball of lava so the current warming is a nothingburgeranon...
>>538873727>Turns on ACNot my problem gay boy
>>538873727It seems all the aforementioned are in the same camp.
>>538886416co2 is a greenhouse gas.Human activity has increased the atmospheric concentration of co2The contentious point now is to what degree.read the thread retard.
>>538883817the drastic decline of the magnetospheredecades ago it was declining at 5% per centurynow it is declining at 5% per decadereminder the north magnetic pole used to be in hudson bay way back in the 70s and 80s when I was a kid and the magnetic field was a lot stronger and we never ever wore sunblock and you couldnt even find sunblock over like 15 in the storenowadays 30, 50, 100 is common and everywherenow the north magnetic pole is almost in siberia, and the south magnetic pole has left antarcticawe just witnessed last year a multitude of low latitude auroral eventsit is this way for a reasonthat I just explained
mfw I came to this thread to debate climate boogaloo with people and end up bodying 20 bots calling me darkoid
>>538886598proof it is human activity?
>>538886511Nevermind, good night
>>538886598CO2 is heavier than air. how do you propose it gets to and stays in the upper atmosphere?
>>538884940more co2=greener earth
>>538886722the increase in co2? There are differences in the isotopes between human carbon activity and that which is natural.
>>538886720post back of hand then "roger"
>>538884954reminder that TSI is purposefully undercounted by omitting solar flares, CMEs, and the solar proton stream
>>538873727>all the scientistsYou people always say this but its actually a very small group of scientists that insist upon the man made climate change lie. How many scientists do you think there are? Now find the biggest number you can to support your argument and ask yourself if you think that number represents "all scientists."A loud minority is almost always wrong.
>>538886825only if you've space for the plants. We're ripping down the amazon to put in onions or feed for cheap beef.
>>538886896Literally every scientist I know personally does, from a variety of countries and fields.
>>538880715>temperature has increased since we started pouring concrete snd asphaltLooks like we'd better start tearing up the roads!
>>538885874algore's fraud is not ClimategateClimategate is when Michael Mann & Gavin Schmidt had their emails leaked and it revealed their concern about the warming trend having completely disappeared and they discussed fraud to bring it back with a nice nifty little trick
>>538886598>The contentious point now is to what degree.this isnt even a point of contention at this point25 years ago, sure it wasbut at this point, co2isms have been utterly destroyed, and we have climatefags that refuse to accept the death of the co2 catastrophe conjecture
>>538873727Hello, scientist here. Climate change is being driven by India and China. That’s literally it. If every single other nation on earth went to net zero carbon, you would only remove 30% of global emissions.
Destination unknownhttps://youtu.be/Kq4OtRsdXls
>>538886799>I'm leaving if you're not going to let me double count this radiation
>>538886954>variety of fieldsthey should know better than to flap their cockholsters about areas outside of their expertise. jfc only the engineers get that part right.
>>538886914reminder the amazon used to be more or less entirely populated with tens of millions of people
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>>538887090the commie ain't wrong either.
>>538886954>everyone in my echo chamber agrees
>>538887186lollmao evenholy fucksince 1750? bongistan wins that one hands down
>>538886954Uh huh. And how many scientists do you know? This wasn't a difficult question to answer...
>>538887181I didn't say they make speeches about it, I said they don't disagree with the consensus.>>538887221lol I'm literally a corporate pig and I disagree with them on policy most of the time, but it's nice how you only find an issue with my statement, and not the faggot shill memeflag that I was responding to :)
>>538887186the stupid dumb idiotic focus on co2 just winds up detracting from real environmental efforts
Okay make everyone switch to nuclear.
>>538887359Come on anon. Just one citation. The biggest number you can find. You can do it.
>>538887186give china 5 years and they'll dwarf all US emissions.This is because we outsourced all our manufacturing over there but China use this as an excuse to do as they like until they feel they have achieved economic parity with the west.
>>538887359nah it was funny that everyone in your echo chamber agreesco2 is not a real considerationif you want to worry about akshual pollution, by all means do this and stop focusing on plant food
>>538873727it's not weird at all, people trying to siphon wealth and power up to the top thrive on misinformation and loss of life
>>538887449This is antisemetic
>>538873727>Out of three respondents, two expressed doubt, and requested evidence. Weird how you didn't even read the study, and just believed the abstract. Do you really think there are three scientists on the planet, and two of them disagreeing constitutes all scientists agreeing?
>>538882261>Fluid and Gasses behave the same way when it comes to pressureAbsolutely incorrect by definition. Fluids cannot be compressed nor will they expand to fill a container.
>>538886465Did you check what the pressure on venus was before posting this? It's 14 PSI on earth. How much do you think it's on Venus?30?10?15?300?It's 1,350 psi. 1,350 PSI of atmosphere made out of 96% CO2. If Venus was at earth temperature 20°c that CO2 would be liquid but it's not. One cubic meter so one meter cube of gas on Venus holds 66.5kg of CO2. So if you wanted to recreate this on earth 1 cubic meter of say commercial roofing insulation would be the same weight. But imagine it was all CO2. Venus is covered in this. So yeah venus is hot because it has 66kg per cubic meter of fucking CO2 sitting on it. Ever heard of Aerogels? Frozen smoke?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N2PHGSbiHQEVenus is covered in this density the entire planet CO2. But because it's 450°c it's not solid basically but an ideal gas. You know how earth is covered in water right? The weight of that Water is only 3 times bigger then the CO2 on Venus. Meaning Venus has 1/3 of earths water weight but in CO2. But the crazy thing is, it's in gas form.
>>538887357If it's a loud minority shouldn't there be at least ONE among dozens of scientists that would be in the quiet majority? Yeah, I am not buying the shill narrative buddy, sorry.>>538887371You posted literally 0 proof of any of your words so I'm just gonna assume you're another shill but the one that's working the distraction angle. I'm from a totalitarian shithole buddy, I know how troll farms operate.>>538887411Don't care about whatever the fuck you're on about>>538887415So what? The US industrialized and polluted the fuck out of our air. Let them pay for it. Shifting the blame to other countries for industrializing in turn is retarded.>>538887437Blahblah show some proofs if you want me to reply to your shilling again
Rightoids demand that you live in the top pic because some billionaire that hates them told them that if you make bottom pic happen they're a lefty. It's why they're called goycattle
>>538887642Same type of shit as happened with Brexit. A mix of cattle, propaganda, paid actors, etc
>>538887642That didn't look like the same city anon
>>538887778Theyre not. And theyre both liberal cities with very strict environmental laws
>>538887186Funny how it tooks 250 years of America do make this much and China caught up and surpassed it in 40 years.And I'm sure it's all just Western factories and not the gigantic mega cities, billions of kilometers of asphalt roads and million of kilometers of high speed rain and 10 of millions of kilometers of rail.And let's not forget cement of other the most CO2 intensive processes in the world. Oh look China emmits more CO2 from cement then the entire world combined and then doubling.Do your construction cemments bags say Made in China? Here in the EU they sure don't I wonder where all that Cement is going. Must the hidden US oligarchs...Oh wait it's just China making shit.
>>538887619>But imagine it was all CO2.IMAGINE THATVenus is hot because it has 96 bar of pressure at the surfaceIt has relatively little to do with co2How hot is it thousands of miles down in Jupiter? Hot AFWhy?Pressure.Venus is a stupid example to say "this is because of co2" because it is because of the pressureIts why I trolled you with Mars' 96% co2 atmosphere doing fuckall to keep the planet warm, because of its very low pressure
>>538887912>>538887625>So what? The US industrialized and polluted the fuck out of our air. Let them pay for it. Shifting the blame to other countries for industrializing in turn is retarded.
>>538887359the consensus is irrelevant. science is not democratic.
>>538887625>You posted literally 0 proof of any of your wordsignoring it doesnt make it go awaythe co2 conjecture has never even been close to having been provenyou're extra dumb if you dont realize that fact
>>538887642and the main component of smog is...NOT co2
>>538887992No blame shiftign needed. Just let them do it. We live in the North. All uf us here. Do you know what that means? It means we don't give a fuck about global warming. Simply build around it and adapt.I'm sure you Swedes will be very upset you can grow apricots in summer.
>>538888031Okay? I was responding to a nigger that claimed there was no consensus but a loud minority. No one asked for you schizo opinions.>>538888044At least I'm not schizo so I'll take it
>>538873727Both sides have little credibility.
>>538888141>aT lEaSt I BeLieVe RiGhT
>>538887642I demand I live here.
>>538888139There is no longer any snow in the winter you dumb brownoid until there's a snowstorm that buries the entire city>>538888212I accept your concession.
>>538887625>Shifting the blame to other countries for industrializing in turn is retarded.if china is going to emit more co2 over the next 30 years than all the rest of the world combined then what is even the point of the rest of the world reducing emissions?
>>538887981Yeah and the ocean gets warmer the deeper you go? The only pressure you have is the tumor in your brain making you retarded.It's almost like all temperature on almost every celestial body comes from the suns trillion petawatt energy supply that heats it up and if the suns electrons can get to you it's cold. Oh look Jupiter, funny how on the top its hot then it gets very cold once the sun EM rays can't get inside and then after a very very long drop of almost 100 km it then gets warmer due to pressure.I'm sorry but last time I checked Venus didn't have an atmosphere thats 5000 kilomters big, the CO2 dense Troposphere isn't even 40 k, sorry pressure doesn't actually work. But you already knew that.
>>538888412To compensate, obviously. Otherwise there would be almost double the amount of emissions in the air. Learn some grade school math moron.
>>538888448that was because russia didnt lube up when they visited it
>>538888263And this is an unfixable problem? Everything North of Niigata in Japan deals with worse shit yearly since 2000 years ago.Been there seen it. People find ways to deal with it, invest in that not making paper straws.
>>538873727Intradesting
>>538886810as the overall concentrain increases more will be pushed to higher levels in the atmosphere. It's not like there are hard lines that stop co2 moving up with natural currents in the air.
>>538873727It’s not weird, people have interests. And regardless of that, the planet will blast us into the middle ages at some point, then it’ll heal. Green policies aren’t gonna prevent this because they align with political and economic interests, there’s no stopping it.
>>538888718that ice core thing is bullshit anyway. my advisor had something similar in his field. some bullshit thing that he swore was completely objective and quantitative yet noone else could come to the same conclusions as he, himself personally, reading the tea leaves.
>>538888589>And this is an unfixable problem? ?????What are you on about? You just said something braindead retarded with IQ lower than the new mean temps and I told you why it is so. Why are you just moving the goalpost to some other bullshit like it didn't happen?I tell you what, either you admit publicly for being a paid shill and post the chats where you receive your orders at OR you admit to being the most spineless worthless spit on the ground fuck I've ever had the displeasure to interact with.
>>538888589I would also like to remind the retards of the north in Europe. Japs have AC for Summer while being covered 2.5 meters of snow.
>>538888534so for ever kg of co2 china puts out europe should reduce theirs by half? Are you chinese?
>>538888811nigger what
Yes, 2026 experienced numerous major solar flares, including several X-class events during Solar Cycle 25. The year began with intense activity in January, featuring a significant X1.9-class flare on January 18 that triggered a fast coronal mass ejection (CME) and a strong geomagnetic storm.
>>538888895You didn't read as single one of my posts. I'm a climate doomer you retard. It's over China will and is simply out producing everyone in CO2 and there no peak yet. By 2070 they'll be done but the world is CLIMATE CHANGED at that point. Adapt to a world that coming, don't try to prevent it. No ammount of CO2 saving in Europe is going to have any impact in the long run on the fact that China didn't heat the peak and Africa, Indoensia, India haven't even started yet! I'm not moving any goalpoasts the climate change prevention thing was done by 1990 when the trade deal with China was done and it became a 1st world country in all major metropolitan areas.There no stooping China, they're making more infrastructure then the entire world combined and until they stop they're going to make the most CO2 because all the building materials use more CO2 then any factories we westerners use there.
>>538888718>>538888892>https://dailysceptic.orgLOLwhat a surprise, also written by a faggot who has been claiming this shit for yearsEVERY TIME>There is not a single science paper that proves conclusively that human-caused CO2 causes all or most global warming.>12:41 PM · May 1, 2023>>538888961if you don't bring me a link to the post where I said europe should do that within 5 minutes I will mail you a jar of my stale cum and piss shaken not stirredbunch of dishonest loser fucks you are
>>538873727don't care, but show up at my door step and I'll blow your head off
>>538887778>>538887881Moooooo
>>538889300well that's an interesting threat>flagchecks out
>>538888961Even if we did that China is at about 13~14 gigatones, Europe with Russia does about 5 gigatones a year. So like by the time we're at zero China will be at like around 18? Meaning we saved nothing.
>>538889302anzeige ist raus :P
>>538889211>I'm sure you Swedes will be very upset you can grow apricots in summer.>I'm sure you Swedes will be very upset you can grow apricots in summer.dumb illiterate cunt I regret ever replying to you
>>538889315Is that LA?
>>538889300you said above, we should compensate for China's emissions. China doesn't plan on reducing emissions any time soon so should europe keep reducing emissions indefinitely as china increases theirs? This is what I took compensate to mean. If you still want to send me that cumjar my address is #10 downing street in London. My name is Keir.
>>538889498>I'll quote you twice maybe then you'll understand my shizoposting.Sorry no Swedish-yes-kun I don't understand your shizoid rage when you double quote me 2 times and we were talking about how Northen Europe is going to get warmer and the climate change isn't going to affect us in any negative deathly ways like the Equatorial cunts in India that are going to boil alive. And then you complain about extreme weather, and then I counter by saying Japan has been dealing with Extreme weather for 2000 years becase on their geography and geology and they're the most advanced orderly and safe country on the entire planet.
>>538889782>#10 downing street in Londonkek>>538889872>the climate change isn't going to affect us in any negative deathly ways like the Equatorial cunts in India that are going to boil aliveAnd I don't want any croatian niggers at my borders when that happens. Fuck you and shut the fuck up.
>>538887642I love when leftgoys mix environmentalism with climate change. I have yet to see a single lefty calling out india or any third turd country. lets not forget the first animal protection laws were introduced by Hitler climate change is just performative environmentalism and slacktivism. no lefty has ever picked up a single piece of trash.
>>538890066Yes me too, we shoot them on sight! Fuck them. Thats why we have Shengen and barbed wire. Now all you ahve to do is get your whiny little spoiled women to no accept african and indian cock.Speaking of that Croatia is one of the most Water Secure places on Earth if anything we'll be the ones defending Europe again from Muslims just like the good old times.
>>538890118>MemeflagIsraeli until proven Indian.
>>538890360Croatia is in Schengen you dumb moron and nobody is shooting anything except you yourself in your dumb larper fantasies. Fuck off, schizoid.
>>538890474moin
>>538890474>>538890695kek its praty
>>538887642It’s honestly incredible how literally all modern rightoidism comes down to “if you do that you’re GAY LMAO”. Natural slaves.
>>538890820t. homosexual
>>538873727I noticed the winter being so fucking harsh 30 years ago, nowadays thats not so much, but this is an anecdote
>>538890485https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/oct/10/photos-croatia-police-phones-passports-asylum-seekershttps://www.newarab.com/features/croatia-border-pushbacks-leave-refugees-trapped-europehttps://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/12/human-rights-body-has-condemned-croatian-authorities-for-border-violence/https://www.ecchr.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/20220922_Croatia_factsheet__Border_justice.pdfhttps://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/oct/21/croatian-police-accused-of-sickening-assaults-on-migrants-on-balkans-trail-bosniaOhohohohhoh you don't read the news about Croatia it's okay.Notice how it's Chronological. Every year with no pause.I'm sorry but we actually do shit here.
This is a real problem. Let's start here:>Close all pools>Cancel all vacations>Close all golf courses>Eliminate data centers>Cancel all but local sports>Cancel all political campaigns>Shut down all production studios>Require schools teach from home>Cancel all music and comedy tours>Cancel all foods shipments overseas>Strip funding to universities to maintain their campuses>Enforce mandatory work from home policies for all applicable jobs>End all efforts for migration to heavy carbon-producing countries (US)
now overlay it with world population
>>538891010Post more puppet assgape pics you saved to your computer faggot.
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>>538891150I will now visit your country.
>>538875744>anthropogenicif that were true, you'd need to nuke china, inda and all of subsahara. climate solved
