No quote has cut more lefty wrists than this one. It breaks down their naked hypocrisy so starkly that they zero-sum.
>>538903296>It's amazing how much right-wing discourse is just them calling you a kike the millisecond you disagree with them on anything, thus making discourse impossible.
>>538903655this guy failed at killing himself and can only seethe on the internet forevermore
>>538903296we're just throwing around obscure ESO concepts in political shitposts now?
>>538903296>"B-but hypocrisy"Friend/enemy distinction is all that matters.
>>538903296>Xitter postGo back.
>>538903733>ESOElder Scrolls in general, sir.
>>538903296
>>538903296Both sides talk past the point and have different definitions of basic words as to make discourse impossible but if you say that righties will accuse you of stealing their memes and lefties will say quoting marxist theory isnt the same as curb stomping niggers
>Rightoids claim lefties pretend not to understand things>Lefties ask them to explain>Rightoids immediately chimp out and start insulting lefties>This happens because rightoids know how horrible their beliefs sound when they have to explain them
>>538904444 (checked)>Rightoids claim lefties pretend not to understand things>Lefties ask them to explain>Rightoids start screeching about how the lefties lick snizz
This thread saw an instant flood of seething non-sequiturs anyone could disagree with.This is called engagement bait, this is a bot thread.
You quickly realize all political people lie and engage in the same groupthink bubble insulation to the point that everybody fails to respond honestly and just repeats what someone else told them to say because they don't even truly understand what their own points are.
>>538903296>Playing this card makes your opponent instantly lose the argument without needing to explain any further. You are instantly awarded all the internet points and your opponent is now a flaming faggot.
>>538903655Kike
>>538903655fuck off nigger kike
>>538904444>>ask leftoids to explain their beliefs>we NEED to import infinity spics to work as underpaid farm equipment>we NEED to import infinity jeets to “work” as software engineers>nuclear power is bad because it would actually solve the climate crisis>white men are evil and disgusting when they act masculine, but it’s hot when niggers do it>we NEED to subsidize infinity niggers with free lunches and free healthcare (whites need not apply)
>>538903733Cant wait until the zoomies and alphas start calling each other N'wahs if this is the new trend.
>>538903296You need to work on your English, Jampreet.
>>538903655kek
>>538903296I was butt raped by a fat gay. My name is kid baby.
>>538905639when's your mixtape coming out
>>538903296So, what even, is this supposed to mean, op? I don't get it?
>>538903788Fyi, this is a myth. Don't ask me how I know. Suffice it to say, me being here to type this to you, proves it.
>>538903655When did "right wing discourse" become "being a migger"?
>>5389059042016
>>538903655Why would that prevent discourse?
>>538904210Antichrists lie, regardless of what side they claim
>>538904444It's more like the leftists freak out because they get exposed to unfiltered Wrongthink
>>538903655Shut up jew
>>538903655>how much right-wing discourse is just them calling you a kike the millisecondI thought both sides hated kikes now? I'm a faggy leftist that sucks dick and I want every faggot jew killed
>>538904917Nuclear power is a meme because it requires regular energy to enrich the utonium. It's just steam power in a fancy costume.
>>538906098When someone calls you a kike on here it signifies that they're done with actual discourse. Because if they take it back or allow you to continue the original discussion they'll look weak. So no matter what you say in response they're going to double down and start sperging out about the Talmud or something that was completely unrelated to the original conversation.
>>538903296Welcome to jews
>>538903655And yet here you are, desperately trying to steal right wing memes again.
>>538903296this is literally all directionbrain discuourse in usa nowadaysin fact I would argue migatards are even worse at it
>>538906414/ptg/ wont like this one bit. It was amazing watching their cope over the Epstein files.
>>538904444I don't see any lefties asking intelligent questions. I do see immediate straw man arguments. Lefty arguments seem to rely on ignorance and emotion. Small wonder it appeals to emotionally compromised personalities with poor impulse control.
It's like global warming. You can't even see the hand in front of your face in China and India and we've had 4 solar events this year but it's my 2 stroke weed eater that's making someone in Arizina say "seems like it may be hotter than the normal blast furnace but it could just be me getting over a cold".
>>538906722Oh please. Right-wing politics are also purely emotional and resentment-based.
>>538903296As soon as they understand your argument you are automatically right and they have to change. Therefore they pretend not to understand and strawman you forever.
>>538906321Most electrical generation involves turning a generator. Coal, nuclear, natural gas, etc use steam pressure to turn a turbine because it's surprisingly efficient. Nuclear can be done with very low waste, and has the lowest fatality rate for the amount of energy produced. Wind generation is a bit of a meme. It will never pay for itself, or negate the carbon cost of building them. I'm waiting for people to realize that those massive solar panel arrays heat the areas around them significantly, and cannot be recycled for materials in a meaningful way after they lose effectiveness and need to be replaced after a few years.
>>538906851Give me a logic based left wing position. Hard mode, it can't be based on victim mentality.
>>538903655
>>538903655Leftists are the ones who hate Jews now, for being lighter-skinned than their beloved shitskin mudslime subhumans whom based Jews regularly BTFO.
>>538907134>Right-wing politics are also purely emotional and resentment-based.>also
>>538903655shalom rabbi death to israel
>>538903655Shut up kike
>>538906346You must get called a kike a lot.
>>538903655Well are you?
>>538903655Ive never been called a kike other then retaliation for spotting the jew first.
>>538906851Your entire ideology is based around you being a victim and trying to put everything in terms of oppressed and oppressor. You’re projecting hard.
>>538903296Winning an argument doesn’t mean you’re right, factually, morally, or statistically. This is what right wingers never understand
>>538907277l don't have an ideology. You don't have to be a leftist to call out right-wing retardation.
>>538907194I'll bite. What's an emotion based, right wing position?
>>538906346If someone calls you a kike it’s because you’re acting like a kike. If you bring down the entire discussion just to get buttmad then they are on the money and you’re seething because that’s what kikes do when you name the jew.
>>538903296>t. israel loving miggeryawn.
>>538903655if they're calling you a kike, then you must be saying something truly awful, manipulative, lying, etc.
>>538904817>muh lying eyes
>>538903296>1pbtid>vpnjeet>RAYG BAYT!!!!!
>>538907334Election fraud. "We know it's happening, there's millions of illegal votes but we can't prove it". It's religious levels of emotion.
>>538904843>>538904847niggered yet again
>>538907321>l don't have an ideologyYes you do, you wouldn’t be here seething if you didn’t. The entire point of you being here is to cry about how people who are against your bullshit are able to call out everything you do and have learned all of your pathetic tactics so well they can make memes about them. To which you have no counter so all you can do is seethe. >right-wing retardationWhich is everyone right of marx who you hate because they don’t want infinite brown people and trannies.
>>538907251No.>>538907271If you never get called a kike on here then you never take any actual position on anything.>You support Christianity? You're a kike!>You're against Christianity? You're a kike! And so on
OP is a faggot.
>>538906346That's exactly what a kike would say
>>538907483>anonymous person telling another anonymous person that he knows everything about himCool story, bud.
>>538904444
>>538904444>Leftoid: What do you believe?>Rightoid: [normal thing that was uncontroversial before 2016]Leftoid: Oh my God! So what you're saying is you want fascist death camps and to hunt black people for sport!?
>>538903296It' amazing how much right wing discourse is just them not pretending to understand things.>"transgender ideology"Whatever the fuck that is in their heads
>>538903296There is truth to this image but you retards ruined it by posting it for literally any topic where someone disagrees with you. I have seen someone use it on /v/ when arguing about a shitty game.
>>538904790>everybody fails to respond honestlyCool, cool, cool. Which part of everybody thinks men can be pregnant?
>>538904444witnessed
>>538907139Nailed it
>>538907334>Women won't sleep with me, therefore they should have no rights
>>538903296I'm economically leftist and socially conservativeI do not care about niggers or queers or trannies or whatever. Hearing the same tired, bad arguments from these losers about why they deserve my money holds no interest for me. The way i see it, white people are fundamentally solving some of the most major problems in the history of the world. Advancement of AI, interplanetary travel, personal robotics, fusion power, etc. are all things that require White and Asian people to work closely together. I think on some level the people who are designing and building these things should own the companies that are making them, which is where the leftist economics come on.Hearing about how slavery from 150 years ago is why you can't be trusted with a self-checkout lane at the supermarket is ridiculous on its face. We have bigger fish to fry.
>>538907423There is a preponderance of evidence. Multiple people have been arrested and charged. It's not really a secret that a lot of politicians are in power because of election fixing.
>>538907551>Oh my God! So what you're saying is you want fascist death camps and to hunt black people for sport!?People on here DO want that, though.
>>538907574>Whatever the fuck that is in their headsYou think a dickless dude in a dress is a woman and you're just going to have to own that. Honestly not sure how "your side" stepped in that, but its fine.
>>538907722Oh god, there's one of them now.
>>538907722fox news would broadcast this 24/7 if it was as conclusively proven as you believe. the reality is even drumpf couldn't prove it despite billions of dollars of backing and years of investigations.
>>538907532Notice how the leftist doesn’t try to argue, he doesn’t continue to deny it nor does he actually try to elaborate on his position. He just tries to create a strawman of what is happening because he was caught in a lie and now has to resort to more dishonest bullshit to try and get out of the hole he put himself in. I can say who and what you are because you faggots all act the same, you all do the same retarded slimy bullshit. It’s easy to spot, and when it gets pointed out you flip and screech like toddlers because it’s not fair for anyone to fight back or call you out, only you can do that in your special echo chambers. >Cool story, budAnother common tactic is that leftist pretend not to care when they lose. They put on smug or condescending attitudes hoping that if they project an air of confidence they can bullshit their way out of a bad situation. But it fails because it usually follows them having a pants shitting tantrum. What’s next you gonna continue this shit? Devolve into nigger speak? Or say “didnt read” hoping to get me mad?
>>538903655You can't even make your own memes, you have to get them from others. I figure it's the same for your opinions as well.You don't think, you're not even human.
>>538903296>No quote has cut more lefty wrists than this one. It breaks down their naked hypocrisy so starkly that they zero-sum.Well at least for leftists political comics, pretending not to understand underlines the entire theme for sure.
>>538907815TL;DR>>538907833seethe
>>538907856>does exactly what I said he wouldLike I said, you all act the same.
>>538907574>"transgender ideology"Everyone understands this fine. You think there are male and female souls and sometimes they get in the wrong body. And your solution to that, instead of just dealing with it, is to carve the body into a poor facsimile of the sex the person thinks they are. You also think this should be done in a rush while the person is a child and isn't old enough to tell fantasy from reality. Did I miss anything?
>>538903655Fuck you kike
>>538904444Actually this is part of the leftists not understanding. You still see the rights explanations, as chimpouts, when it's just that you refuse to concede to the explanation. It's like no matter how many stats you have to back up that the differences between races are at least half caused by heritability, the leftist will still not hear you, and instead proclaim that you are only saying that because you're trying to justify racism.
>>538907423>It's religious levels of emotion.You are aware that multiple jurisdictions that oppose voter id also explicitly allow non-citizens to vote. They claim it only for non federal elections, but they do it. The secret ballot also make proving fraud under thses circumstance literally impossible.
>>538907889Get back in the oven, kike.
>>538907917>t. can't open a pickle jar
>>538907935You’re literally kvetching and going into the pilpul, moise, trying to poison the well isn’t going to work.
>>538907948>pickle jarDo you really think anybody here watches andew wilson? what an odd retort from the discord trannies.
>>538907970Denounce the Talmud, Shlomo. Now.
>>538903296You know he's had sex with another guy, right?
>>538907788>>538907789https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/108824/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20190129-SD020.pdf
>>538903296Everyone on X has Dunning Krueger disease. And they have AI psychosis. Nobody even reads it anymore. Its not a cool place to hang.
>>538907889It's pretending not to be a leftist.
>>538908035I denounce the talmud and the torah. Now your turn, denounce the kike books.
>>538903296Post a single example of this happening
>>538907651Which part blesses Pissrael with our tax dollars despite them murdering our civilians and servicemen? You’re all the same, miggers and leftists are indistinguishable in retardation.
>>538907423ok pass the bill thenlets have voter ID and end to democrat bs theft fraud
>>538908040so ~1,000 illegal votes cast over hundreds of millions? doesn't seem like a very big problem to me
>>538903296Discourse has NEVER been possible because the leftist doesn't engage in discussion. Rhetoric is merely a tool in his arsenal which can be used to fulfill his prime directive - that being to force You into submission.>>538907687Women sacrificed 1.2 Billion Children on the plan parenthood alter for no benefit.Over 21 Million every year which is equivalent to the Entirety of WW1 in measure of lost life EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 1/3 of Millennials and 1/4 of GenZ were killed by their own mothers
>>538907917To back to India
>The election doesn't matter! None of these elections matter! Both sides work for (((THEM)))!!! It's a uniparty!!! There is no political solution!!!>THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN BY THE DEMONCRATS! I DON'T CARE THAT EVEN REPUBLICAN JUDGES THREW THAT SHIT OUT AND THAT TRUMP HIMSELF DOESN'T EVEN CLAIM THIS ANYMORE! IT HAPPENED! IT JUST DID!!make it make sense, miggerchuds...
>>538907423Why do democrats not support nation wide voter ID to abate those claims? Many countries have voter ID.
>>538907722Retard.
>>538908139It’s spelled altar you dumb illiterate ESL jeet.
>>538907321Ah yes the old cowardly "bro I totally don't have a side because that would require me to have a position and beliefs to defend and I am too cowardly to do that so I will pretend I am apolitical but still bitch about just one side" strategy you leftist kikes love to do now
>>538905863real men do both
>>538903296>be me at work>dudes chilling, talking shit to each other>fatlib cracks a joke about me>me:”at least I don’t have to contract nasa to trim my neckline”>everyone laughs>him:”I don’t get it”>fren:”he’s calling you fat”>everyone laughs harderGlass. Houses.
>>538908118If they don't need fraud; it shouldn't be a big deal to make sure people are eligible to vote, and are identified. Right?
>>538908196I have a side, it’s total migger annihilation. I hate miggers. Miggers are ontologically evil and there is no act against them which can be considered unethical.
>>538908179solution in search of a problem
>>538907742Sure, there is some wacko who wants practically anything. But you idiots think even the most bland center-right boy scout wants to instate a 4th reich. Unless they're Ukrainian and actually have a swastika on their uniform. Then it's just a cultural difference or something.
>>538908192Silence, Phone Poster
>>538908091I denounce the talmud, the torah, the new testament, the quran, the book of mormon, Das Kapital, Mein Kampf, Eat Pray Love, 50 Shades of Grey...
>>538903655they were mad because he spoke truth
>>538904444Yeah we don't wana cut dicks offa boys.Horrible.We don't want women to be war pigs with big rings in their nose.We don't want troons in girls sports.We don't want minorities in countries built by white men from basic forrest.We don't want jewbags printing money and living in our mansions and putting poos in as CEO of our cops and top political spots.lolMake anti white racism burnable treason.boot orc inc mik woptake money from women and force abourtU fukin jews really need to be tortured to death.
>>538908158anyone that says migger is a left wing kike by the way and they aren't allowed to say the word nigger
>>538908139Your resentment isn't based on them terminating nonsentient fetuses. It's based on them not sleeping with you. If women found you attractive you wouldn't hate them. You'd be having sex with them instead of posting on here.
>>538908133You aren't good at math are you. We also use the electoral college, not popular vote. It takes surprisingly little to swing some states.
>>538908242yup kike thanks for confirming what I said
>>538908264>kike goes full retard in performative effort to try and push how he’s not a leftistDid your lie failing trigger you to give in fully to the neurosis? Figures.
>>538908254You’re literally fucking Indian. You’re not even human and have no business on this continent. Go choke on a cow pie, shitskinz
If election fraud really happened then how come the experts say it didn't happen
>>538904616The dude glued the pickle jar shut.No one can open it.Shit brain!
>>538908298>built by white menNot true lil nigga
>>538908348Stop pretending to be antisemitic. Nobody believes you. Miggers literally aren’t allowed to be antisemitic. King Migger said so lmao.
>>538908314nigger migger rigger diggerorange four-inch door-hinge
>>538908243Is there a problem with the solution? If a large proportion of the population wants to defend democracy, as other countries have, then what problems would arise from voter ID? We already can see the issues from other countries doing it: None. If it's a solution to a non existent problem, why did European countries institute it? People clearly have an issue with no having voter ID's as an extra security measure for voting, and abating that issue is extremely easy, and causes no issues in itself. Yet, for some reason, leftists aren't just ambiguous about it, they are VEHEMENTLY against it. Why?
>>538908358Didn't the girl open it?
>>538907423So you think Biden was elected? Obama too?LOL
>>538908331the burden of proof is on you to show that this is a big problem.This has been the whole problem. You guys keep saying it's this huge issue but none of the evidence actually shows that it is.I picked one of the voter fraud cases at random just as an example:>Owner of Young Political Majors, Mark Jacoby, pleaded guilty to voter fraud after he registered to vote at a childhood address where he no longer lived and at another address in the same voter precinct. He was sentenced to three years’ probation after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor and was ordered to complete 30 days of community service.I dunno this just doesn't seem like a huge issue to me. And he was caught!
>>538907489TKD is my only policy. Never been called a kike.
>>538908219
>>538908314You post this cope in every thread you get called a migger in, and in every thread you get proven a liar and BTFO. Aren’t you tired of this sad little song and dance, you dumb little brown hindu nigger?
>>538908356ok prove it then, it should be extremely easy for you
>>538908406you are going to get in trouble for saying that kike
>>538908424It's an expensive hassle that doesn't fix anything. You already have to prove who you are when you register to vote.
>>538908406>door-hingei also played escape from monkey island
>>538908346Miggers aren’t allowed to be antisemitic. You worship Jews and Pissrael. Orange nigger himself said so. Stop larping as an antisemite to fit in, NOBODY is convinced.
>>538908473Kike. >>538908486Trouble is my middle name.
>>538908404>oy vey you’re just pretending You faggots always show you’re full of shit so quickly. So quick to lie but you can never actually stick to it when it gets called out. Way to go kike, you outed yourself, again.
>>538903655Based
>>538908502>You already have to prove who you are when you register to vote.No you don't. MN allows already registered votes to "vouch" for up to 10 people ON ELECTION DAY. And they stay on the rolls if not challenged. Go look it up.
>>538908481You leftist kikes have been here for almost 2 years trying this same "I will pretend to be far right and hate other far right people and accuse them of supporting jews" shtick and it doesn't work. I get your only trick is manipulation and guilt tactics and it's why you do this but it's not working kike. Get a new strategy one that doesn't involve trying to guilt someone>>538908532No it's Moishe or Shultz
>>538908486Nobody believes you. Miggerniggers aren’t allowed to be antisemites, it’s public knowledge.>>538908473Good, so we agree on the migger question? There has never been a more prosemitic administration in the U.S.
>>538903296I rape black men.
>>538908530look at this weird attempt at shaming and gatekeeping this is how you retarded kikes make it obvious what you are
>>538908583I'm not jewish. I didn't vote for Trump.
>>538907931So you can't prove anything, but you just know it's true? That sounds a lot like an emotional response.
>>538908595Miggers tongue jews anuses
>>538908595>oy vey goy you aren't allowed to hate us you need to feel shame and guiltfuck off kike
>>538908543You are just pretending. Trump loves Israel and is loud and proud about it, he gave his daughter to a kike, his grandkids are Jewish, he does whatever Jews want. Nobody believes you when you pretend not to be a kike puppet.
>>538908610You are very jewish no matter who you vote for or don't vote for
>>538908404Miganiggers pretend to not understand that Trump is actually jewish himself.
>>538907489so what are u?
>>538908636You worship Jews. Everyone can see the irrefutable evidence of Trump’s own words up against your pathetic shitposting cope. You lost, tranny (miggers are also huge trannies as well as kikes btw)
>>538908482easyhttps://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/exhaustive-fact-check-finds-little-evidence-of-voter-fraud-but-2020s-big-lie-lives-onhttps://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/npr/2024/11/09/nx-s1-5184405/2020s-debunked-election-fraud-claims-are-coming-back-due-to-trumps-2024-victory/https://www.snopes.com/collections/no-systematic-voter-fraud-2020/In fact just go on Google and look up 2020 voter fraud. ALL the experts agree it didn't happen. So if all the experts say it didn't happen why do you think it did??
>>538908502It's neither expensive, nor a hassle, as many other countries have voter ID. Actually the majority of the people in the country, including democrats, have no issues with voter ID. So it would abate the issues that republicans have, and it seems like some democrats have issues with the current system too as they think voter ID should be instituted. So again, only positives, no negatives, so why not?
>>538908452The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are claiming elections are reliable and work as advertised (one person one vote, only citizens vote, etc) which you have no evidence for other than "trust me bro".
It's the new NPC meme.Also the left can't meme
>>538908623>So you can't prove anythingYes. Thats the point. So why don't we move to a system that's less easily defrauded? Oh you oppose that too?
>>538908654You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor!
>>538908609You are pro-Jewish. There is no denying it. I post objective irrefutable evidence, you post pathetic cope and zero evidence. You lost, tranny.
>>538908669I am an American aquarium drinker
>>538908702You lost tranny. Go cry about it.
>>538908440Obama was elected by white idiots who thought that he would be a nail in the coffin of racism, rather than the 40+ year setback he turned out to be. Biden was placed in the position.
>>538908724Sorry nigger, it's up to you to show there's a problem. It should be extremely easy given how strongly you feel on the topic.
>>538908782you post like a bot
>>538908741Because there's no real evidence of mass defrauding. People occasionally try to vote fraudulently and are busted for it.
>>538908724> The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are claiming elections are unreliable and not working as advertised (one person one vote, only citizens vote, etc) which you have no evidence for other than "trust me bro".Anybody can play this gay little word game, kike.
>>538908158shut up u ugly jew
>>538908693I don't worship kikes like you. I didn't vote for Trump but I am not a pathetic loser NEET kike like you who thinks me not voting or me voting matters at all in the grand scheme of things. >>538908744>hollywood kike referenceand you are old to boot>>538908755I don't support kikes like you. The entire world is burning and you devote your entire kike life here trying to act high and might against retards that voted for Trump even though you are doing nothing to make things better. Another pathetic loser who thinks doing nothing makes him better than someone who voted even though the result is the same
>>538908702>Judges look at voter fraud claims>Judge dismisses suits even before discovery>leftists cheer that voting fraud was debunkedHere's the ultimate problem with voting fraud: Even if proven, the votes can't change. It's a massive massive blow to the will of the people. Even if there was widespread voter fraud, they would NEVER reveal it as such. it's just overwhelmingly damaging to the US because the vote results can't be changed.
>>538908781Gross.
>>538908825You post like a tranny who lost and is still pissing his pants over it six years later. Many such cases!
>>538908737It’s better than the NPC meme because it cuts deeper, the NPC meme proposes ignorance à la Hanlon’s Razor. But this is presenting it as feigned ignorance which I would call Gramsci’s Razor.
>>538908869Show us clearly where this happened
>>538908854>only old people have seen star warsOMG wait til you learn I listen to super obscure old music like Pink Floyd too!!!!
>>538905863I'm glad your with us, but damn bro I could never put a razor to my own skin. I would jump in front of a train first if I didn't have a gun. How did you even work up the balls to do that? Why are you still on 4chan?(Reminder frens: don't die on us. Not unless you've taken at least one Epstein client with you, you're almost out of ammo and the cops are closing in.)
>>538908880how so?
>>538908854Denounce MAGA, Vishnu, and the Talmud.
>>538903655What a faggot!
>>538908904Would it actually change your mind a little bit if anon DID give you proof that almost all of the lawsuits were dismissed before discovery? Or would you still feel the same way you do now? If the latter you're basically just asking him to waste his time
>>538908960I mean, if the lawsuits were dismissed for no good reason, yeah, it would.
>>538908904Where what happened? That judges threw the cases out before discovery? It happened in the 2020 fed election. Do you not remember the 60 election fraud lawsuits brought forth? The majority were dismissed by the judge without even going to discovery, because they believed it had no standing/had lack of evidence in his opinion.
>>538908890Gramsci's razor is a good one. lol
>>538903296the tweet that oneshoted libtards
>>538908990No I want you to show me what the reasons for dismissal were. Link to the writing that the judges did.
>>538908907Go start a family you are old>>538908919I denounce MAGA, Vishnu, and the Talmud.
>>538908645>no u I’m not, I don’t support zion don.
Why don't we regularly hang lawyers?
>>538908827>Because there's no real evidence of mass defrauding.All the international groups dedicated to election integrity agree that ID is important and vote-by-mail is hazardous. Why is the US exceptional in this case?
>>538908979That's not what anon said though, he said dismissed before discovery. Would it change your mind?
>>538909024https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_electionAll the sources are in the first paragraph.My question is why are you talking about election fraud when you're uninformed about such a basic part of the argument?
>>538909084No, because that doesn't automatically imply a problem. If the court transcript shows that the judge is being arbitrary or is obviously slanted towards one political party, I could accept that. But if that were the case we'd have a lot more squawking than we do.
Make voter fraud death penalty.Execute the dems who kick people outa voting stations who are observing or put blocks on windows.WE need a king asapSlaughter all jews and academics and lawyers.
>>538909129I mean if that's what you're using as your source:>Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing,[3][4]:4,10–14[5][6][7] including 30 lawsuits that were dismissed by the judge after a hearing on the merits.[8] Among the judges who dismissed the lawsuits were some appointed by Trump himself.[9] Judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[10] and "without merit".[11][12] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his reelection collectively lost multiple cases in six states on a single day.[13]Basically it's like I thought. You really don't have any idea what you're talking about, and you're just regurgitating points you've heard elsewhere.
>>538909024>Link to the writing that the judges did.Why? Even if you had the IQ to understand a legal motion (you don't) you would just deflect.
>>538908960They made the initial claim that suspicion of voter fraud was purely emotional. I responded with over 400 pages of convictions. They said it wasn't enough. So I gave them more.No amount of evidence will ever persuade a fool.
>>538909197>xe can't do itI accept your concession.
Woes is an admitted sodomite.
>>538909154>that doesn't automatically imply a problem.No. But it absolutely means there was no discovery.
>>538908829>>538908807Basically you guys think whatever the government says is the null hypothesis and it requires evidence to suggest anything else. You have it completely backwards. The government can provide evidence that the elections are legitimate. I have no access to that evidence or evidence to the contrary. This why we have presumption of innocence. If you had to prove you were innocent the government/police can simply withhold the evidence that you are. So instead, we make the state prove you're guilty and if they can't, you walk. Similarly the government can provide evidence that the elections are legitimate or not, the burden of proof is on them.
>>538908827Anything that can be exploited is being exploited especially at the government level. To prove voter fraud you need to catch them in the act due to the messy way elections are done and the lack of oversight. I don't understand how anyone can think our elections are fine when they randomly find new ballots under desks and on flash drives.
>>538903296This feels like projection since right-wingers don't understand things.
>>538909154Yeah figured as much, just wanted to see you admit itYou can read through all the lawsuits and their results herehttps://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_interest/election_law/litigation/Most of them were dismissed due to lack of standing, which is a determination made before any actual evidence is submitted
>>538909222They weren't all convictions. You're being misleading, which I pointed out in an earlier response.>>538908452And again, we're talking about ~1,000 cases over the course of 20 years, out of hundreds of millions of total votes cast.
>>538909223>I accept your concession.See? there was no concession. You just responded with your favorite thought terminating cliché.
>>538909228too many words brahmake your point in 10 words or less u tiresome jewbrain
>>538909267Every single reply against this has been a no u. Leftist don't stand for anything or have no argument against any criticism just "no u"
>>538903655Lost
>>538908298>Yeah we don't wana cut dicks offa boys.Most conservatives support circumcision.
>>538909267>This feels like
>>538903655See this is why it doesn't work for you. All you had to do was replace "leftist" with "right-wing" in the OP tweet to make it work. Instead you did a bunch of retarded ass mental gymnastics that doesn't cover everything and hyperfixates on only one specific subgroup that's far, far more insignificant than you actually believe them to be. Fucking idiot.
>>538903655kike
Discourse???I just want to kill kikes.
>>538903296This is because rightoid discourse is mostly based on deeply rooted esoteric cultural grievances that are incomprehensible to people who have been outside the right wing media/internet echo chamber
>>538909043They have good lawyers.
>>538909271>https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_interest/election_law/litigation/It's exactly how I thought it was going to be:>The U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona granted the defendants’ motions to dismiss the case, concluding that the court could not decertify the election results in the state and that accusations of election fraud “that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court.”Theyr'e saying there wasn't enough evidence to proceed. Like you're doing, they're operating on innuendo and extrapolation. But that ain't evidence.
>>538909292Ask chatgpt to summarize it for you then, tard.
>>538909329What's a conservative?
>>538909391Learn to write English you jew retard. LOL
>>538909384>concluding that the court could not decertify the election results>Theyr'e saying there wasn't enough evidence to proceed
They are just fucking stupid parrots screaming agenda crap...don't bother asking them any questions about anything they are protesting...
>accuse a liberal of something>"no actually you are the thing you are accusing me of being"This is like 99% of every leftist response to any criticism of them it's becomes completely pointless to have any discussion with them
>>538909466Did you miss the part of it where they said the whole lawsuit was based on bullshit? I'm not sure how, it was part of what I quoted.
>>538909479I never heard a leftist kike whine about Paramount or the "Ellisons" before this merger deal. I am sure far left ANTIFA types probably did but I am talking about your average democrat normie. Like a switch went off randomly, every liberal I knew started fear mongering about the "Ellisons" the same week like they downloaded their newest talking points from reddit or whatever
>>538903655>the first post pretends not to understand and just pulls a no uIncredible
>>538903655fpbp
>>538909384Like I said, that's a determination they made before actually admitting any evidence. Dismissing a case is not the same thing as looking at the evidence and reaching a final judgement.
My only gripe is that it implies they understand things
>>538908479And this is why Tyler Robinson needs a slap on the wrist.
>>538903762We know, but this is probably the most succinct way of explaining how they pull off the friend/enemy distinction covertly (at least to the perception of the average normtard)
>>538909222There are, by the Heritage Foundation's own numbers, 1,619 convictions for voter fraud since 1982. In that same time frame there have been 1,324,400,393 votes cast in Presidential Elections. This is 0.00012224% of all votes cast, so if you are attempting to show wide spread fraud, we have a very different version of what "wide spread" means
>>538909599No, they're given initial exhibits and a request for discovery. The court saw what was being offered and decided it was bullshit.
>>5389092851018 criminal convictions. One person can be doing significant damage to an election determined by a few thousand votes.
>>538909352Shut up, kike.
>>538909588democrats are so dumb n useless
>>538909329Any evidence on this statistic? I'm conservative, and I don't support it. The only ones I have heard support it are women, and not conservative ones.
>>538909708>hasn't denounce the Talmud at any point in this entire threadWe get it, you're a fucking kike.
>>538909373Tell me which victim group you belong to.
>>538909656Right, you're into the innuendo part of things that the courts already declared bullshit.>>538909384>accusations of election fraud “that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court.”give me proof or begone. ~1000 fraudulent votes cast out of 1bn+ does not indicate a widespread problem
>>538909656Whats wild is the biggest cheaters and thieves are same ones who say lets let MAJORITY VOTE decide!LOLTime for a KING
>>538909728Literally the only group in this country that is against circumcision are atheists.
>>538909653No, it was dismissed due to lack of standing. Read it yourselfhttps://ktar.com/arizona-news/federal-judge-tosses-arizona-lawsuit-seeking-to-decertify-election-results/3740531/
>>538909557No. The first was the actual legal reason, and the second was irrelevant bs they wanted to slide in for political reasons.
>>538909196I like how you just immediately prove the OP's picture. Is clicking on the numbered links too much reading for you?
>>538909641Convictions are not single votes cast.
>>538908502Why is voter ID so contentious but ID for accessing porn or social media gets little to no pushback on the legislative level? It's because one would prevent fraud and the other is just to control you.
>>538903296>>538904444It always sucked dicks like it's author>If I can''t explain my degenerate Nazi weltschaunung that's on you, hippieRightoids love faux intellectual shorthand in the same way leftoids love exclusion by inference "get a load of this guy"I've actually spoken with Woes at some length and he is an ill tempered grifter retard who looks and lives like shit and clearly has no concept of human interaction. A dumb person's idea of a dissident
>>538905863>this is a mythNo it isn't, of course you bleed out faster by opening the vein over a larger area.
>>538903655>>It's amazing how much right-wing discourse is just them calling you a kike the millisecond you disagree with them on anything, thus making discourse impossible
Why do we take seriouslybankerslawyersceombaacademicsdemocratsfeministsjews or other orcshoot themking now
>>538909776>"Gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court. Therefore we will not be letting you plead earnestly and follow procedure in federal court."How does that make any sense?
>>538903296>Post vaguely-defined political arguments>Get mad after your vague political arguments get misunderstoodThis happens all of the time on Xitter.
>>538909807>https://ktar.com/arizona-news/federal-judge-tosses-arizona-lawsuit-seeking-to-decertify-election-results/3740531/>The judge said the challenge failed “to provide the court with factual support for their extraordinary claims.”It's exactly like I said man. Google better.>>538909810They actually wrote that because MIGA operates on emotions and bullshit.>>538909850You're the one that linked wikipedia Pajeet. Sorry it dismissed your claims in one of the opening sentences.
>>538906719Why would they be coping? There's nothing in there incriminating Trump? It incidentally revealed that leftists don't actually care about rape gangs, human trafficking or sex slavery if they don't gain anything from it politically, look at how they instantly defaulted to calling the Rape Reports in the UK as "anti Muslim rubbish". Then again the left in the UK has been directed by RICU this entire time so it makes sense they don't have a single independent thought.
>>538909972They're not earnest pleadings if they're based on nonsense anon. Your case isn't valid just because you want it to be.
>>538909956Stop posting pictures of your ugly jew mug, kike.
Look at all the jew blathering on this thread.NoiseNonsenseKill the jews.
>>538910030>It incidentally revealed that leftists don't actually care about rape gangs, human trafficking or sex slavery if they don't gain anything from it politicallyBelieve all women chud. Not those ones though.
>>538909373The right doesn't hide in any echo chambers. Echo chambers require censoring dissenting opinions like reddit does. 4chan for example is open to everyone so I see everyone's argument on a topic whether I agree with it or not.The only thing the mainstream right is guilty of is having too limited of a scope for information sources. Foxnews is the only mainstream rightwing news source and thus easily influenced by legacy media. Even then all mainstream media is controlled in the hands of the few and both sides are guilty in this regards.
>>538910019>They actually wrote that because MIGAYes. That's what I fucking said you stupid mongoloid. The legal position was a completely different point (can't de certify an election).
>>538910019If you read the ruling instead of the excerpts the website is highlighting, the actual reasons for dismissal are:>Plaintiffs simply cannot establish they have a likelihood of success on their claims. Plaintiffs face serious jurisdictional impediments in bringing their claims to federal court at the eleventh hour. These insurmountable legal hurdles are exacerbated by insufficiently plead allegations of fraud, rendered implausible by the multiple inadmissible affidavits, declarations, and expert reports upon which their Complaint relies. >Furthermore, granting Plaintiffs the injunctive relief they seek would greatly harm the public interest. As stated by Defendant Hobbs, “the requested relief would cause enormous harm to Arizonans, supplanting the will of nearly 3.4 million voters reflected in the certified election results and potentially imperiling Arizona’s participation in the Electoral College. It would be more difficult to envision a case in which the balance of hardships would tip more strongly against a plaintiff.” (Doc. 40 at 24). The Court agrees. The significant weight of these two Winters factors requires that the Court deny Plaintiffs’ requests for injunctive relief.
>>538910038>how do you know it's nonsense?>because the court didn't accept the evidence>but the court dismissed the lawsuit before accepting evidence>because it's based on nonsense>[repeat]
>>538910127>/pol/ isn't an echo chamberLOLLMAO
>>538910127The right unconsciously self censors and the lack of moderation always ensures purity spiralling and escalationto demonstrate who is "most based"
Do the TDS retards that spam migger and other retarded shit understand you are worse than Trump tards? They keep their delusions in a single general that you can easily block meanwhile you TDS kikes fill the catalog with 1 post by this id empy posts like "HAHAHAHAHA MIGGERS FEEL SHAME" or "MIGGERS SHOULD FEEL GUILTY FOR WHAT THEY VOTED FOR" or "FEEL GUILT AND SHAME ABOUT WHO YOU VOTED FOR MIGGERS FEEL BAD GOY ER I MEAN GUY" like you are either kikes or NEETs projecting your low self esteem thinking you not voting makes you better than people who did when the result is the same regardless
>>538910163Dude we're wasting our time. These people can't understand phrases like "cannot establish they have a likelihood of success on their claims."
>>538903296Give one (1) example. you won't
>>538909373>"You're all wrong" he said freely in the echo chamber
>>538910228The guilt is in continuing to support Trump because my rigged election DOD asset is better than yours
>>538910272Minnesota with the fraudulent daycares. California with the hospice care, New York with aged care and homeless shelters.
>>538903773At this point we might as well let it go.ESO has done irreparable damage to the lore, and everyone who actually gave a shit either left a long time ago or got fired recently.Even MK has given up on it and just paints 40k figurines these days.
>>538910272Martin Scorsese is probably the most overrated director of all time
>>538910230That's the judge writing that they can't prove their claims and therefore the case isn't worth proceeding with. Pretty standard court proceedings. Whatever evidence was initially provided clearly wasn't very compelling. Given the rest of this document the work by the Republicans looks pretty slapdash on this.You can see this elsewhere in the record:> Absent from the Complaint is an allegation that Plaintiffs (or any registered Arizona voter for that matter) were deprived of their right to vote. Instead, they bring baseless claims of “disparate treatment of Arizona voters, in subjecting one class of voters to greater burdens or scrutiny than another."It all comes back to the original quote:>>538909776>accusations of election fraud “that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court.”
>>538904210>Both sides talk past the point and have different definitions of basic wordsnot really... The main difference is the left leaning base is way better educated so you can't just screech reactionary slogans at them. Conservatives have the same highly educated leadership and of course the wealthy donors and corporate people are also all college educated....... but the deep core base, most of all in the fly over states, are just GED level mid wits.It's not an accident the most die hard and largest sub group of Maga is a white male with no college. So how exactly to you have a decent back and forth with morons who just wave off facts based off their own vibes? You want to debate tariffs as a form of protectionism for...... Oh wait, the conservative base doesn't even know how tariffs work. They also think election fraud happened and is happening despite zero proof. They think immigrants commit more crimes despite stats showing the opposite. They don't understand everyone has constitutional rights like due process. They think Jan 6th was anything but them. The list goes on an on. They think trans issues are worthy of national policy despite trans being sub one percent of the pop. They wave off doctors and go anti-vax and pro life.. The level of just brain melting mid-wit-ness is nearly impossible to get past.
>>538910307>ignores what I say>no u even though I literally shit on Trump multiple times in this threadok you are kikes then
>>538910019>>538910163btw I predict you're going to seize on the phrase>exacerbated by insufficiently plead allegations of fraud, rendered implausible by the multiple inadmissible affidavits, declarations, and expert reports upon which their Complaint reliesand interpret it as "no good evidence of fraud" because you're too much of a lazy nigger to read the document. "Insufficiently plead" refers to the fact that their allegations of fraud were not legally specific enough, and the evidence was inadmissible for various legal technicalities that you can read about between pages 22 and 27
>>538910210I have made perfectly sound and valid arguments on reddit and gotten downvoted to obscurity. I then can't post in half the subreddits for not having sufficient karma. Others simply get banned for having a deserting opinion or posting the wrong set of facts.On 4chan either side can make an argument or present evidence and anyone can see it. Please define what a non-echo chamber environment looks like if you think 4chan isn't one.
>>538910272The connection between genetics and behavior.Leftists will tell you that murderous psychopaths are just misunderstood victims of socioeconomic factors unironically.
>>538906851If that were true, we would expect to see a majority of men being left-wing and a majority of women being right-wing>but people being inherently and predictably unequal makes me feel bad so that means it’s not true
>>538910478I mean you could just read this section:> Advancing several different theories, Plaintiffs allege that Arizona’s Secretary ofState and Governor conspired with various domestic and international actors to manipulateArizona’s 2020 General Election results allowing Joseph Biden to defeat Donald Trump in the presidential race. The allegations they put forth to support their claims of fraud fail in their particularity and plausibility. Plaintiffs append over three hundred pages of attachments, which are only impressive for their volume. The various affidavits and expert reports are largely based on anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections.Again, it's exactly like I said. The evidence provided wasn't good enough to proceed with, in addition to all the other bad work the republican lawyers did.
>>538910333Every leftist can grasp those issues. Also Joe Biden's AG Merrick Garland prosecuted fraud in Minnesota
>>538910545Why? Left-wing and right-wing are both emotional and resentment based. Literally what I said. You're the second person who ignored the 'also'. Maybe I need to be more explicit spelling shit out for you retards.
>>538910497half the threads on /pol/ are some variation of "Trump bad" and these kikes will still say /pol/ is a echo chamber
>>538910407>That's the judge writing that they can't prove their claimsNo its not, and you're proving my point.
>>538910696>>538910569Yes it is nigger.
>>538903733What?
>>538910497You use Reddit, you are a bum bandit
>>538910646again you are a kike pretending to be apolitical because having a "side" means you have to defend it and you don't want that baggage. Almost every leftist I know says the same exact script."Oh I don't like either side I am independent but...." then precedes to whine about Republicans for an hour straight. You are a coward
>>538904444Tell me what is a woman?
>>538910646Not nearly to the same extent. Quit equivocating.
>>538906346So basically you are jewish and you know it means you are a juvenile coward that subverts discussion at every turn and hate being called out on it and hate that people detect your pipul and jewish mannerisms quickly. You really are a class act.
>>538910569Yeah let's read on>Plaintiffs first “describe specific violations of Arizona law” to support their fraud claims. In doing so, they attach declarations from poll watchers that observed election officials during the November General Election. As Intervenor-Defendant Maricopa County points out, these are the only declarants offered by Plaintiffs with first-hand observation of the election administration. (Doc. 36 at 4). But these four declarants do not allege fraud at all. Instead, they raise objections to the manner and process by which Arizona election officials matched signatures on absentee ballots; to the process and role assigned to poll referees in settling unresolved disputes between adjudicators; to “irregularities” with the voting machines on Election Day and before , and to the certification of the Dominion voting system on November 18, 2020. These objections to the manner in which Arizona officials administered the election cannot serve to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Arizona because they fail to present evidence that supports the underlying fraud claim. At most, these are the type of “garden variety election irregularities” federal courts are “not equipped nor empowered to supervise . . . .” Essentially she refuses to consider it because there isn't a single smoking gun.
>>538910726>likelihood of success>courts can't decertify The suite was dismissed because, by definition, the plaintiff could not win. Do you not understand this? All before discovery, btw.
>>538910755>>538910768>>538910815Disgusting fucking kikes. Hitler (PBUH) was right about you "people." Denounce the Talmud or fuck off back to hell.
>>538910573>Also Joe Biden's AG Merrick Garland prosecuted fraud in MinnesotaAfter the Democratic govenor, and VP running mate, denounced the investigation as racist and untrue.
>>538910872I live and breath denouncing the Talmud. Type God. Say God. Say Jesus Christ is Lord. Say these things. Do it.
>>538910816>Plaintiffs have not moved the needle for their fraud theory from conceivable to plausible, which they must do to state a claim under Federal pleading standards.Right. I don't get to burden the court with months/years of work without having plausible claims. In short, they didn't have any actual evidence.
>>538910869Right, because their claim was submitted with evidence that didn't pass the sniff test you illiterate nigger.>>538910569>Plaintiffs append over three hundred pages of attachments, which are only impressive for their volume. The various affidavits and expert reports are largely based on anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections.So it's just like I said. There was no actual proof.
>>538910872I already did your retarded purity test kike>>538909031
>>538910902God, why would I say Rabbi Yeshua bar-Yosef was Lord? You are a fucking kike! I was right!Sorry Ben, I'm not going to be a good goy and go to church! HAHAHA Sorry, not sorry!!!!
>>538910983Do it again.
>>538910904i.e. >>538910197Idk how much this applies to you but it's really funny how people, especially on the liberal side, think the legal system is fucked in this country, but then in cases like this put their absolute faith in it.
>>538911088the court looked at the evidence that was submitted and determined it was garbage. They should have submitted some proof!
>>538911012No kike how about you kill yourself?
>>538911126This anon is confirmed jewish. I fucking knew it.
>>538911088liberals think Americans should be paid more and corporations are evil but protect corporations that undercut American workers with legal and illegal workers because everything is black or white to them. Everything involving immigrants has to favor them there is no way they are being used to hurt us like fucking children they act and think like
>>538908827There are states that let illegals get drivers licenses, register to vote, and don't check ID at the poll. That and mail-in ballots that don't require any verification at all.Everyone can see these glaring loopholes yet one side likes to pretend like no one is abusing them while fervently defending keeping them in place. If no one is abusing them then why not let us close them?I may not know the degree of fraud that is occurring but I do know I cannot trust the voting process in its current state.
>>538911117No, the judge skimmed the preliminary evidence that was submitted, found things to nitpick about, and decided she to prevent them from presenting their evidence in an actual court of law.
>>538911162This kike has spent almost 2 years larping as a right winger trying to use guilt to change people's minds and has accomplished nothing.
>>538910197but the court did look at the evidence. Turns out it wasn't very good :(>Plaintiffs append over three hundred pages of attachments, which are only impressive for their volume. The various affidavits and expert reports are largely based on anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections.So it's just like I said. The courts weren't being arbitrary, the Republicans just couldn't prove their claims. And neither can you.
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>>538911180It was wild seeing people demand an explanation for why mail-in voting would be any more conducive to fraud than in-person voting. A child could come up with an explanation.
>>538911180The right has relied on this innuendo for years and it has gotten them nowhere. Prove it! Do what they can't!>>538911193Yes, this is how court works. Bad evidence doesn't mean the case should proceed. Why not submit actual proof of fraudulent voting? Why are they submitting reports about Venezuelan elections and relying on all this bad evidence?Because in reality the proof doesn't exist.>>accusations of election fraud “that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court.”
>>538911200Do you now, at least, accept the fact that the majority of cases were dismissed before entering discovery?
>>538911295>Why not submit actual proof of fraudulent voting?What form would that take?>Why are they submitting reports about Venezuelan elections Is that a rhetorical question, or do you genuinely not understand why they included that?
>>538911308I never gave a shit about that and rejected that as being a problem from the very beginning. >>538909154My question was whether the cases were being dismissed arbitrarily. Which they clearly weren't, as the court proceedings we've just reviewed show.
>>538911379>I never gave a shit about that and rejected that as being a problem from the very beginning.Okay but do you agree that it's true?
>>538911295The loophole existing is enough reason to close the loophole independent of of the degree in which it is being abused.
>>538903296Just look at leftist deboonkers>original video: 14 mins.>lefty deboonk: 3.5 hours of tranny smugging, snivelling, yelling, punctuating each word with clappy claps; feeling everything (performatively) and saying nothing of substance.I guess that's okay. At least they're wasting each other's time on such a massive scale that they'll never actually attempt to do anything real.
>>538911477erm actually the lawyers couldn't provide a memo from the DNC saying "here's how we're going to do voter fraud" so there's no evidence
>>538911331I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know, and frankly I don't care. Clearly it's not what they submitted though:>Plaintiffs append over three hundred pages of attachments, which are only impressive for their volume. The various affidavits and expert reports are largely based on anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections.>Is that a rhetorical question, or do you genuinely not understand why they included that?Well, right, I get why a low-IQ nigger like you would fall for that sort of innuendo. That's not proof of anything though. Which they also note:>Plaintiffs even attach an affidavit of an anonymous witness with connections to the late Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez claiming to be privy as to how officials in Venezuela rigged their elections with the help of a voting systems company whose software “DNA” is now used in voting machines in the United States. (Doc. 1-1, Ex. 1). These concerns and stated vulnerabilities, however, do not sufficiently allege that any voting machine used in Arizona was in fact hacked or compromised in the 2020 General Election. Rather, what is present is a lengthy collectionof phrases beginning with the words “could have, possibly, might,” and “may have.”
>>538903655Your tactics are known to us.
>>538911396Yes, but that "point" is irrelevant if the cases are garbage to begin with. It's a red herring and isn't indicative of anything other than Republican incompetence.>>538911477What loophole are you referring to?>>538911559All Republicans had to do was provide any evidence that fraudulent voting actually occurred. They did not.
>>538911295>Anon, just because everyone has access to your bank account doesn't mean people are stealing your money.But can I at least check the records to make sure no one took anything because I remember the balance being higher before.>Nope, please submit proof someone took your money before we check.Can't I at least secure my bank account so a potential thief can't take any more of my money?>No, that would be racist
>>538903655AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
>>538911591You don't need to be a lawyer dude, just have some imagination. Can you think of a single piece of evidence that would constitute "actual proof of fraudulent voting"? For instance, maybe Joe Biden wrote "I am very excited to steal the election next week" in his journal. Of course that's stupid and silly, but can you come up with anything less stupid?Also idk what Diane Humetewa (aka "the court") is having such a hard time understanding about the logic here. A voting machine company helped to rig elections in Venezuela, and it's the same voting machine company we used in our election, consequently it seems possible that they did the same thing here>HAHA YOU SAID ITS POSSIBLE, GIVE ME PROOF THAT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENEDOkay, so again, like what?
>>538911717I have no interest in engaging with this retarded hypothetical you've constructed when the case already exists and has already been discussed to death with a clear and objective victory for me.
>>538911766>A voting machine company helped to rig elections in Venezuela, and it's the same voting machine company we used in our election, consequently it seems possible that they did the same thing hereBut if you're saying a crime occurred, then you need to show that it actually happened. We just keep coming back to this quote:>>accusations of election fraud “that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court.”I genuinely have no interest in anything outside of what was shown in the court case. Republicans had *no* evidence actually showing voter fraud.Why is that so hard to accept? Trump lost.
>>538906321>t. doesn't know how turbines and solar panels are built/transported
>>538911896So you can't even imagine any possible kind of evidence that voter fraud would have happened if it did? Pretend it was the Republicans doing the fraud if that makes it easier for you. If you can't think of anything, it seems like you're setting an unreasonably high standard of proof if that's the case.
>>538911779Indeed, it is a retarded hypothetical almost as retarded as letting people register/vote without proving who they are with an ID.>Why yes citibank my name is Bill Gates, I'd like to make a withdrawl.Sure who you go anon, have a nice day.
>>538906321>because it requires regular energy to enrich the utoniumIt 'produces' more energy than the enrichment process requires anon. That's what a breeder reactor does.
>>538911963Sure I can. I simply have no interest in this line of discussion. It's not fruitful and will have no impact on what happened, which is that no proof of any crime actually existed and the Republicans had their case thrown out.
>>538911989I accept your concession tranny!
>>538912021>I simply have no interest in this line of discussionYeah, because you treat politics like sports and are only interested in "goals" for your own team
>>538912021>Sure I can, I'm just not going to.Uh huh. Believe it or not I've also participated in bad faith arguments online and I usually know what that means. Hopefully some part of you registers your inability to answer the question and gnaws away at your subconscious. You will be a better person once you drop the tribalism.
>>538903655>>538904444>pretending this isn't about per capita
>>538912082Remember that you’re totally willing to believe completely unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud because it’s what your team is saying happened. >>538912132If you were operating in good faith, I’d say you wouldn’t need to cook up this hypothetical and could engage with the material that already exists.
>>538912333>your teamDid you hit your head when looking at my flag or something?The US is almost comically corrupt, borderline third world level. It's obvious that both parties are corrupt down to the bone to anyone with eyes
>>538912333>If you were operating in good faith, I’d say you wouldn’t need to cook up this hypothetical and could engage with the material that already exists.What a botty answer. The point of the hypothetical is to demonstrate that you're demanding an impossibly high standard of proof. It would be really easy for you to BTFO me right now by proposing an actual plausible proof of mass voting fraud, but you won't, because you know you're being unreasonable.
>>538912408Your team being right wingers, obviously. You’re accusing me of tribalism when you’re doing it yourself.I gave the election fraud claims a fair shake. What I found was what I suspected: the cases had no merit and were laughed out of court.Interestingly if you were genuinely not treating politics like a team sport, you’d agree with me.
>>538909787No kidding. We elected two confirmed pedophiles in a row. Either our democracy is fake or democracy is trash. There is no third option.
>>538912445I am utterly irrelevant to these proceedings here. I can tell you that whatever slop those idiotic republicans submitted was not struggling to meet some impossibly high barrier of proof, as the court record clearly shows and I’ve repeatedly laid out in this thread.
>>538912493>Interestingly if you were genuinely not treating politics like a team sport, you’d agree with me.I think pretending that the courts of the system would find fault with the system is pretty laughable.>the cases had no merit and were laughed out of court.Actually, for that particular case, were the cases not thrown out without even being looked at? That's not what you're implying hereAlso, you're projecting extremely hard here. I don't know what to say I also note that you don't acknowledge that America is comically corrupt. I imagine you feel that ceding any ground here would destroy your ideology, which frankly isn't a good look for you
>>538912562>It's not an impossibly high barrier of proof just because I can't even imagine it being met in any hypothetical worldValid logic provided you're genuinely retarded.
>>538911295>Why not submit actual proof of fraudulent voting?Collecting that as a private citizen is illegal voter harassment. You're demanding evidence from people who don't have access to that evidence. The government should be able to easily prove the legitimacy of elections but they don't. Have you considered why?
>>538912702>Actually, for that particular case, were the cases not thrown out without even being looked at?Please read the thread, I showed objectively that this was not the case.>>538912943Sorry but this is the exact kind of innuendo that the court said is no good. They had election observers watching the tallying of the votes like every state has. If they had evidence of a crime why didn’t they get the police or FBI or whatever involved?