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Fun fact, the Brits put out feelers in October 1943, they wanted to give him a way out and form a separate peace between the Western Allies and Nazi Germany presumably, so they could continue a single-front war solely against the Soviet Union, possibly together with Britain (and America?)
Hitler rejected this offer outright. I believe he was always suicidal and committed himself to "sacrificing" himself and the German people on the altar of the ideology after Mussolini was overthrown in July 1943. SHortly before his suicide he declared even the German people weren't worth any sacrifice as the war proved they were not superior
Now you tell me if all this is right or wrong?
here's my source for this:
>Hitler's War by David Irving
https://archive.org/stream/nsliterature/David%20Irving%20Archive/HitlersWarAndTheWarPathByDavidIrving-974_djvu.txt
>‘The Führer is confident, said Bormann in a secret speech at this time, ‘but he is not just an optimist; in fact, he is on principle pessimistic as far as all reports to him are concerned. He no longer believes what is not proven to him. He is sceptical about every cable and dispatch he receives.’ Stalin was in a position of consummate strength; and thus he was in a position to dictate to the world. To this Hitler knew only one reply: “The most important thing is to keep up the fight and never falter, but spy out the enemy’s weaknesses and exploit them without the least thought of capitulation or “understanding”. . . Who can guarantee that one day a bombshell won’t burst among the Allies, and that they will suddenly discover differences they can’t plaster over any more? . . .
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>When fresh feelers reached Hitler now from Britain, he thrust them aside. On October 15, Himmler’s chief of foreign Intelligence, Walter Schellenberg, learned that the British trade chief in Stockholm, David MacEvan, had offered to come secretly to Germany for a conference, ostensibly on economic affairs. Himmler asked Ribbentrop to secure a decision from Hitler. Hitler forbade any consideration of such feelers.

>One reason for Hitler’s rebuff to what seemed to be vague Allied feelers was that under Kesselring’s command the campaign in Italy was proceeding far better than he had dared to hope.
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>>538910249
Sounds like nonsense to me.
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>>538910249
>the british trade chief in stockholm
who?
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>>538910352
David MacEvan, a British glownigger
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>>538910462
apparently Irving misspelled and his name was David McEwan*
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here's a paper on this from 1995 if you want more
https://www.jstor.org/stable/261156
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britain jailed Hess for like 40 years for trying to show a peace treaty in a briefcase to the brits
the brits escalated the war so churchill could ppay off debts without selling property
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>>538910249
And then everyone clapped
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>>538911052
nah, his mission was retarded, came at the wrongest time and even Hitler didn't want it (if you want, check out the link in the OP, Irving elaborates on the whole debacle)
as for his fate after the war, I believe it's the result of his ideological fanaticism and steadfast loyalty to the ideology and Hitler. he clearly wanted to make a symbol out of himself, and they let him. they only denied his greatest wish (becoming a martyr). Germany has never had a shortage of fools
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>>538910558
all I see is stupid nonsense
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>>538911389
you see what you want to see :)
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>>538911563
because there is nothing to see
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>>538910249
hitler, mussolini and franco were all based
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>>538910249
I don't know but German women are hot af and kinda easy. When they talk German during sex it makes my right arm rise.
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>>538910249
First, don't trust Irving. Second, this would go against the established plan of unconditional surrender, and there's no way Churchill would have crossed Roosevelt on this.
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>>538911709
man Goebbels was a creepy fuck
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>>538912017
i've learned enough since 2022 about peace processes so it all makes sense to me
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>source
>sanitized politically correct "version" written by winners

Check future if Putin loses now what "source based" hisory books will be written
>US ans Ukraine proposed pease countless times
>Russia sabotaged, Minsk 1/2, Stambul agreements and generous deal in Anchoridge.

We know how shit done when "whole civilized world united against evil?
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>>538910249
they wanted Germany to fight until last german, just like Ukraine. Hitler wasn‘t as stupid as Zelensky.
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>>538913532
>ok it's recording
>now go have fun!
>ok cut!
>back to werk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkTRamZ0PsQ
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>>538910249
evil, obviously, he was instrumental in the culling of millions of Christian europeans.
the masons and jews were very grateful to hitler for his part.
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Both. He put Germany into an unwinnable war scenario by antagonizing most big powers in Europe and beyond to the point where they would rather support the USSR than him. All he had to do was do nothing and observe relations between Britain/France etc. and USSR get worse and worse until they would be locked in a hot or cold war, thus making Germany a less urgent threat. But instead, he did everything he could to show Britain that Germany was aiming for revanchism and was a bigger threat to them than the USSR. His primary objective should have always been to avoid antagonizing Britain, but instead he did exactly that by annexing and invading all countries around him. He really wasn't the brightest mind out there, since his entire war strategy relied on writing nice things about Britain in his book and hoping that would be enough to get Britain to change its centuries-old strategy of preventing a single power from dominating continental Europe.
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>>538910249
>Fun fact, the Brits put out feelers in October 1943, they wanted to give him a way out and form a separate peace between the Western Allies and Nazi Germany presumably, so they could continue a single-front war solely against the Soviet Union, possibly together with Britain (and America?)

This is such unbelievable bullshit. The Germans tried to make peace with the brits countless times. The second highest ranking poltician in Germany went to britain on an almost suicide solo mission to try to make peace. It's not Germany that declared war on britain afterall retard.
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>>538910249
Neither. He served the Rothschilds and served them well. Mission accomplished.
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>>538910249
HE WAS A BAKA WHO GOT IN THE ROBOT TOO LATE AND ENDED UP IN MOSCOW IN WINTER
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>Poles and russians to this day are STILL butthurt about Hitler and will make up shit about him to cope
As a shitalian, nazis occupied us and slaughtered a bunch of people too, yet we don't have the eternal german hatred complex slavs have. You guys should get over it and admit the guy had a point about jews. Now we live in a world where not a single government is willing to stand up for us while sucking rabbi cock. Your "based" government isn't gonna do shit to stop the WEF unfortunately
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>>538910249
This is the dumbest shit i've read in quite a while. If Hitler was so evil and or dumb why did almost the same proposition get sent to churchill several times over the war (who declined it also)? Why did Hitler call back troops to go easy on Dünkirchen and fought with Göring to not bomb London into the ground.
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>>538916777
To be fair, that's, as almost everything in western culture these days, another boomer problem. Every younger czech and pole i met so far was very aware. Also much less butt hurt about history's past, everyone just wants to live a good life.
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>>538916777
>the eternal german hatred complex slavs have
Russians love Germans, the fuck are you on about. Putin himself is a huge germanophile and speaks fluent German.

>You guys should get over it and admit the guy had a point about jews.
Hitler served the Rothschilds, you dumb tard.
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>>538910352
glownigger trying to assassinate the Führer, keep in mind this is 2 years after Rudolf Heß was arrested in Scotland for flying over to negotiate peace.
The British wanted the war and nothing of OPs rabbinic wordsmithing changes that fact.
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Hitler was 100% right, the greatest man to ever live since Jesus Christ, the king of Europe and all White People.
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>Two economically and socially failing colonial empires declares war on Germoney
>Aaahhh it's Hitler fault we're being raped by Pakis
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>Arrests the rothschilds and ends usury and jewish faggotry
>H-h-he wuz serving the rothschilds doooode
Lel
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>>538910249
Germans really call their retards Drumpfkopfs?
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>>538919823
Judenhut, put it on.
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>>538910249
possessed by demons, after hypnotised by jewish doctor near end of ww1 after he got hysterical blindness from gas attack
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>>538910249
>was hitler evil
no he lacked the holy language
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>>538910249
Yes. Mojtaba Khamenei proved you can fight the jews without killing Europeans
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>>538919731
>releases rothschilds on a small bail, makes sure that their prison conditions are good
>kills 27 million Russians in barbarossa
>the only jews he kills are the Polish ghetto jews that don't matter
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>>538919731
source?
and is it econmic data, hence civilian production/exports?
from books I read if war industry comparing, Germany was weaker than Britain alone, without Commonwealth
they just had headstart to accumulate hardware
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>>538920298
>Arrests Rotschilds and bans their gay freemasonry gaybar gayclub
>Hotler wuzz rotschild!
>France and Britain declare war on Germany for their jewish masters
>Hortler killed all these people!
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>>538916777
Nazis helped make Italy bigger, retard. Hitler helped all your failed endavours in Africa.
On the other hand he made our nations significantly smaller and tried to genocide us.
He split Slovenia into three parts and forcibly resettled Germans into one of the parts and encouraged race mixing to genocide us.
There are Slavs who like Hitler, Croatians. Because he made their country bigger too. NDH was bigger than Croatia is.
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>>538920355
France and Britain are irrelevant since only 2 million died on the western front
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>>538920390
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Jews have increased their funding of Hasbara tenfold since 2020.
We see it in this thread.
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>>538920850
Poles aren't jewish
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rent free kurwa op
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>>538920879
>Poles aren't jewish
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>>538910249
Hitler was a once-in-a-generation politician, but not a great military tactician.
England wanted a war; they are the slaves of the d*vil through their j*wish overlords, this is a simple matter of fact, but Hitler made a couple of massive blunders that cost him tsaid war: keeping the sixth army in the eastern front during the Russian winter and giving a green light to the most suicidal airborne "invasion" of England.
For one reason or another, he did not believe in Spain as a capable ally. In other words, he did not believe that WWII would be a play-by-play of the Napoleonic wars, with Spain actually being a crucial player that changed the tide of the conflict. He was proven wrong about this with Russia, whether he was right about it in Spain is a different story altogether and a matter of speculation. I tend to believe that the greatest military mastermind of the last 500 years, Francisco Franco, would have actually been a far better and stronger ally that Mussolini and Hiromoot.
It can hardly be said that Hitler was evil. He was a determinist that has been the target of massive propaganda from j*ws and their British American slaves; do not forget that all of the US', USSR's and jud*a's peaks during the last century were the result of the Germans prisoners taken after the war.
>b-but his conflict killed so many Whites!
So did the Reconquista, and those brave White men that died are now in eternal bliss in heaven, not here, suffering the j*wification of the world.
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>>538910249
Shitler was just retarded.
He literally ruined Germany and cripled Europe for generations.
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>>538919731
how did they climb so fast bros? What was their secret?
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>>538910249
The whole point of WWII and Nazi Germany was to enable Zionism.
So I absolutely do not care about this dumbass discussion.



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