China is looking to replicate this again and subjugate all of Asia. Tibet already has been subjugated, Taiwan is nextThen it’ll be Korea, Japan, and SEA nations.If they are not contained it’ll be dangerous for the world.The CCP is a meme word, their real agenda is to recreate the Ming Dynasty againThey don’t care about communism and have never did for the past 50-60 years.
>Then it’ll be Korea, Japan, and SEA nations.They will willingly throw themselves into China's arms when the dark hordes become too much to bear
Good, they have proven they do have the Mandate of Heaven
>>538918232The west just need to offer PHULL SUPPORT SAAARR to Nam. That alone could keep the chink at bay for decades
>Japan>KoreaLol what desperate chinkoid history rewrite is this.
The tribute system is an outdated system.The next international system will be a fairer trade cycle built around the BRICS nations and the Belt and Road Initiative.If other East Asian countries stop acting like fucking hostile monkeys, there’s no need to worry about any wars or invasions. Take Vietnam, for example—we once fought a war, but now Vietnam is an important trade partner of China.Communism and the restoration of the Ming Dynasty are not at all incompatible.We have no intention of restoring the monarchy.But the West is regressing to feudalism.Also, stop being such a faggot.
>>538918493>>538918526>t. dicklet hansects
>>538918232>tributary statesDo you actually know what that means?China in its history did not partake in international trade, the tributary system was a substitute.Rulers and merchants would travel to the imperial palace to kowtow before the Son of Heaven and acknowledge the Chinese universal empire, then give "gifts" to the emperor (foreign goods Chinese people wanted to import) then the Emperor would give "gifts" back (Chinese goods they wanted to sell) to the foreign dignitary.They didn't extract tribute, they gave more in gifts than they received, it was just their version of trade.
>>538918507You are completely historically illiterate. Both Korea and Japan are Chinese offshoots, hence Sinosphere. They share ancestry, writing systems, Confucianism and later Buddhism, and Korea and Japan have styled themselves after the Chinese court (mainly the Tang) for legitimacy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritsury%C5%8Dhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wa_(name_of_Japan)
>>538918806West Taiwan is legitimate Japanese clay.
>>538918970Japs can't even win in the anime front these days
>>538918806Korea has an alphabet because chinese runes suck ass and japan also developed their own writing systems.Japan held 50% of China in ww2 so historically speaking china is rightful japanese clay.
>>538919080Why does Japan still use Chinese runes then?
>>538918232Burger shills started to use Commie flags?I know the topic, your interpretation is beyond retarded and reeks burger educationThey were not always pacifist but if they were like you want to paint them then half of Indonesia would be Chinese
>>538919080Hangul is a neat alphabet for raising literacy but the nuances of Hanzi for deeper meaning and poetry are unmatched. Not for Korean though, they were always a bad fit. It's a shame they're a pain in the fucking ass to learn.
Imagine unironically simping for the "glory of the Ming Dynasty" when its most powerful emperor, Yongle, was literally half-Korean lolHistorical records like the Nanjing Taichangsi Zhi strongly indicate that his biological mother was Consort Qi, a Goryeo woman. This means your peak Han nationalist fantasy was actually ruled by a mixed-blood dynasty. You are basically begging to restore a kingdom that owes its peak genetics to Korea kek
>>538918232Amerimutts are going through bad time with the failed cargo cult anniversary, floods downing Amerimutts, drone attacks on Amerimutt bases, that dead Amerimutt warmonger faggot, collapsing Amerimutt skyscrapers etc, so the daily quota of China cope spam was raised along with their general spam quotas
>>538919480Chinese never had an issue with mixed blood, because China is an empire, not a kingdom like you were.Some of China's greatest emperors were mixed, like Li Shimin of Tang. Some of the vilest traitors were also mixed tho, like An Lushan.China has something no other asian civilization has: Civic nationalism.Those countries who define themselves over blood purity and discriminate even foreign born people of their blood and accuse them for being "not real Korean/Japanese" are literally little better than inbred tribesmen cosplaying as countries after adopting Chinese aesthetics and government structures.
>>538920006"Civic nationalism" is the funniest cope of 2026 when your own youth are literally obsessing over Han ethnonationalism right now. Why are Chinese social media platforms like Douyin and Bilibili absolutely flooded with Ming Dynasty nostalgia while demonizing the Qing Dynasty as a "foreign, impure" conquest?You guys literally make "Black Dragon" flags and run around crying about pure Han bloodlines while trying to delete any Manchurian or Mongolian influence from your history. Even your own government is getting scared of your rampant Han chauvinism because it completely destroys your fake "multi-ethnic harmonious empire" propaganda.What is truly hilarious is that you guys treat the Ming Dynasty as your spiritual anchor for Han ethnonationalism, yet the irony remains that the Ming Dynasty itself was not a pure Han dynasty. Just look at this thread; you guys are obsessively pushing the Ming Dynasty as your ideological core. This is the tragic reality of the Han nationalist fantasy.
>>538918594fuck off gypsy just because chinks are smart and rich enough to not to have sex with spics that want to accuse them of rape like "black" people
>>538918232Thanks Reagan
>>538919480Your court among themselves called him an Old Fuck, kek
>>538918232China has 0 need for other countries.This fear tactic is really getting old.They're like Russia and are mostly self-sufficient.Japan tried in WW2 because their country has nothing.
>>538920330To be fair Qing was a shithole and stagnated the fuck out of China then handed it to foreigners, and the Manchus were foreign to China. They did not assimilate and become Chinese until way later, like the tribes south of the Yangtze did two thousand years ago and now they call themselves Han.
>>538920330>while demonizing the Qing Dynasty as a "foreign, impure" conquest?Because they murdered millions of Chinese?Also they forced the rest of China to have that slave haircut.The same way the mutts forced to to amputate your cock. What is it, around....95% circumcision rate in Korea?But the difference is you cut off your cock for american money,The Ming Chinese got enslaved for no compensation.
>>538918232Go for it China, become the new colonizers. Finally brown and black inferiority will switch its target.
>>538921402>become the new colonizers.That never changed the language of the southern monkeys,they didn't force any rules on them. they just traded tea and silk for local spices.
lil kimmy thought he won by posting wall of text
>>538918232Brown immigration is a greater threat than Chinese success, glownigger.
>>538918493That true? I heard the king is missing since the night of falling stars
>>538918232Glory to Xi Jinping
>>538921167And that is exactly where your massive dilemma lies. You want to exclude the Manchus as foreign murderers while desperately clinging to the massive empire they conquered for you. If you hate the Qing Dynasty so much for enslaving the Han, then be logically consistent and give back Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet. None of those lands belonged to your precious Ming Dynasty; they were all conquered and integrated by the Qing.This shameless hypocrisy is exactly why the CCP panics and cracks down on Han ethnonationalists like you. Your entire logic implicitly admits that China’s current borders are illegitimate and built on the empire of the very "foreigners" you despise.Would any of you Han chauvinists ever dare to say, "Let's grant independence to every territory outside the original 18 provinces of China Proper"? Of course not. This proves exactly why your Han ethnonationalism is nothing but an absolute joke and a total load of bullshitAt the end of the day, your so-called "Han nalism" is just a pathetic coping mechanism designed to run away from your own history, the embarrassing reality of living as the submissive slaves of foreign rulers for hundreds of years.
>>538920330Tang was the best dynasty prove me wrongSong was gay before you say that
>>538919480There was no such thing as “half-Korean” back then. That’s a modern western concept. You were whatever your father was. So a Chinese man and a Korean woman would have created a 100% Chinese baby. That’s how literally everybody thought about things back then.
>>538922131The Yuan did hold those too
>>538918232Good for them I guess. Why should any white person care?
>>538922131Huh I thought you guys hate Qing. Manchus treated Koreans far worse than any Han dynasty did
>>538919480You have a long and admirable history, too bad it's just about getting raped by China and Japan.
>>538922361That is just your own massive cope. Especially in East Asia, where Confucian ideology governed society, people were far more obsessed with lineage and family genealogies than almost any other culture.
>>538919080>Japan held 50% of China in ww2 so historically speaking china is rightful japanese clay.Historically speaking did not exist. Japan has no history, it’s a baby country. It’s not a 5000 year old civilization like China, it’s modern settler colonial state like America and Canada. It was founded by Korean settler colonizers less than 2000 years ago.Saying that China historically belonged to Japan is equivalent to saying Rome historically belonged to the United States of America because US troops rode through Italy during WW2. Just retarded.
>lil kimmy thinks Chinese consider themselves as part of East AsianIt’s just you and the Japanese, lil kimmy
>>538919080>Japan also developed their own writing system>Looks inside>90% Chinese runes
>>538922805ackshually glorious Nippon was founded by Chinoids sent to seek the mountain that held the elixir of immortality. Corroborated by the lack of records of Qin Shi Huangs man not coming back to China because he knew he would be ripped apart by horses, also corroborated by a strikingly similar name to the dude emperor Qin sent to find his immortality drug, venerated in an ancient and very popular shrine in kyushu.
>>538918649pretty much this. those "tributary countries" weren't subjugated or anything, the just played by the chinese meme rules. especially the ming dynasty suffered terrible defeats every time it tried to conquer something
>East Asia sphere conveniently excludes Vietnam Too brown for you and the Japanese?
>>538922526Like most other Koreans, I do not actually hold a grudge against the Manchus. Since ancient times, the Manchus lived under Korean rule and even historically regarded our states as their ancestral lands. We were just ordinary neighbors.In fact, I actually feel sorry for them. If they had just stayed in Manchuria, they might have existed as an independent sovereign nation today. Instead, they conquered China, only to be completely absorbed by it, and now they are reduced to a minor ethnic group. If they had rejected Chinese culture to the end like the Mongols did, things might have been different, but the moment they adopted the Chinese language, the fate of the Manchus was sealed.Personally, I cannot help but wonder, if Nurhaci could see the state of the Manchus today, would he have ever chosen to conquer China in the first place?
>>538922756>Especially in East Asia, where Confucian ideology governed society, people were far more obsessed with lineage and family genealogies than almost any other culture.Of patrilineal ancestry, sure.
>>538920330You said it yourself, they are online nationalists, not state policy. The CCP has zero interest in advancing Han nationalism and has even blocked some Hanfu movement events on occasion. Compared to Korea where incel rage affects state policy, Chinese politics is a sanctuary of objectivity and only CASC scholars have influence, not online shitposters.
>>538922131Hexi corridor was conquered by the Han dynasty, held by Heroes such as Guo Xin and Zhang Yichao during the chaos of the late Tang and then reclaimed by the Ming later on. Tibet was an aggressor against the Tang, sacking Chang'An and plungldwring the Hexi corridor, which means that upon defeat their country belongs to China. Same as Mongolia, who was defeated by the Ming after their 80 years of occupation of China. Manchuria also belongs to the Han people because the Xinhai revolution defeated the Manchu and Manchuria belongs to China by the right of victory.There is no dilemma. China will eventually defeat Japan in the near future and Ryukyu will be demanded as prize, which will become an independent but China friendly client state.
US needs to parachute in some marines and teach them to behave.
>>538924599Fine, let's say you're right for the sake of argument. But we aren't talking about the mindset of ancient Chinese people; we are talking about the mindset of modern Chinese people. Do modern Chinese people claim that someone isn't mixed-blood just because their father is Chinese? No, they don't.Since Han supremacists have a deep inferiority complex about being conquered by the Manchus, they use the Ming Dynasty as their spiritual pillar to preach Han supremacism.My point is that the current situation in China where pure Han nationalists are obsessed with a mixed-blood dynasty while preaching Han supremacism itself means it's a contradiction and a total joke.
>>538925874I'm not even so sure about them worshipping the Ming so much. Yongle and Hongwu are both very controversial emperors and while people like that they ejected the Mongols, they still complain about their authoritarianism and the secret police state they built, as well as Eunuchs and corruption. I find more worshippers of Tang and Song in China, while Ming is often only seen as the last proper Dynasty that still carried the Faustian spirit of older Han-led dynasties, well until Zheng He's fleet was burned.
>>538925614Are you high? Han chinese didn't conquer Manchuria by military victory; you literally inherited it through a legal transfer of power.Go read the Imperial Edict of the Abdication of the Qing Emperor in 1912. The Manchu court didn't surrender to a Han military conquest. The Last Emperor abdicated voluntarily under a political deal, explicitly stating that the entire territory of the Qing Empire including Manchuria, Tibet, Xinjiang, and Mongolia would be handed over to the Republic of China to maintain a unified nation.If you view the Manchus as foreign invaders and reject them, you have no historical or legal right to keep the lands they brought into the empire. You can't call them "foreigners" while unironically claiming their properties as your "prize of victory" when no such conquest ever happened.
>>538918232It was an economic agreement, so there was no master-servant relationship.
>>538918232> If they are not contained it’ll be dangerous for the world.I would have cared in the 90’s but you guys replaced all of us. I don’t even have a country anymore, why would I care about some bullshit on the other side of the world? I definitely don’t care to help globohomo jews out with all of it.
>>538926164>kvetching increases Plebbit will receive you much better
>>538925377Based and truthpilled post.
>>538919480Han refers to the 2nd Chinese dynasty which was a unification of 18 kingdoms and was named after a river. The founder named Liu from Chu Kingdom. So Han never meant a singular Chinese/Hunaxia tribe. If the first Dynasty Qin lasted more than one emperor, they would use Qin people instead and some dialects such as Cantonese, use Tang people. Han just means united China/Chinese is all. One could be Hakka, Hokkien, Shanghainese, Sichuanese etc and still be Han.
>>538922131>give back Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet.Nah, they earned those regons.You anglocucks are so butthurt over it, lol.
>>538926479Nice ad hominem, but still zero counter-arguments lol The Han people have never conquered Manchuria, Tibet, Mongolia, or Xinjiang. Even during the Ming Dynasty, your territory was confined only to the central plains. All of those territories were conquered by the Manchus and then handed over to you. They are not your prizes of victory won through conquest.
>>538926164>If you view the Manchus as foreign invaders and reject them, you have no historical or legal right to keep the lands they brought into the empire.That's false, those foreigners murdered them, and became part of the empire, those lands have been earned.You can be butthurt about it all you want, but they are chinese now, and it seems you have been unable to prop up any independency movements from there, so you have to beg online to ask the Chinese to please become smaller.
>>538919480>Oh look our women got fucked by your men, you lose lol
>>538926721>All of those territories were conquered by the Manchus and then handed over to you.What was gifted can be kept.The only thing you can do now is to beg China to shrink in size.
>>538926758So getting brutally conquered, massacred, and enslaved by foreign invaders is now called earning land? That is the most pathetic coping mechanism I have ever heard.By that delusional logic, if a robber breaks into your house, murders your family, rules your household for three centuries, and leaves you his stolen goods when he dies, you suddenly become the proud conqueror who earned the property? You did not earn anything. You were colonized, forced to wear the queue hairstyle under the threat of execution, and spent 300 years as second-class subjects to the Manchus.No one is begging China to become smaller. We just find it fucking hilarious how modern Han nationalists are so deeply ashamed of their history of subjugation and so desperate to cope with it that they end up simping for a mixed blood dynasty while screaming Han supremacy. On top of that, you guys unironically crying about how these lands are your prizes of victory from conquest is just the cherry on top kek
>>538927071>So getting brutally conquered, massacred, and enslaved by foreign invaders is now called earning land?That's generally how it works, they killed a lok of Chinese people, they became chinese peeple themselves.To the point where even your 1,6 billion dollar propaganda campaign has failed to produce any independence movements in manchu land.>No one is begging China to become smaller.You are, cuckboy.You have no independence movements, so all you can do is beg the Chinese online.You are in this thread right now begging them to give it back.... to who?To you so you can be the emperor?To the people who don't want independence?`MAO you are so retarded and butthurt.
>>538926803No matter what you say, there is no pure Han dynasty after the fall of the Song Dynasty. You are just making fools of yourselves by using a mixed blood dynasty as your spiritual pillar to preach Han supremacism.Furthermore, your land was inherited from the very people who raped you. It is not a prize of victory that you won by conquering them.
>>538927252Just imagine how pathetic it is to watch you fools screaming that your ethnic is the best by clinging to a mixed blood dynasty, all because you are still bitter about being ruled by foreign invaders for hundreds of years. Everyone would laugh at that. if I wanted China to become smaller, I would have supported the Han nationalists instead of laughing at their supremacism. I am laughing at you, not supporting you. You don't just have a head on your shoulders for decoration, so try using your brain for once.
>>538927326>No matter what you sayIt does matter what I say. You have noooooo (0) independence move in manchu.You have begged the Chinese to "give it back"But your tiny low iq brain has not defined who it should be given back to.The natives in Manchu province prefer to move south to warmer Chinese provinces. What are you going to do about it cuck? 'Beg some more?
>>538927625>I am laughingNo, you're beggine the Chinese via me.You're begging them>>538922131to "give back Manchuria" without defining who it should be given to.You're the most butthurt person on /pol/ right now.
>>538927644>>538927790Whatever, do whatever you want. If you want to personally give up the legitimacy of the Qing Dynasty's territory, I lose absolutely nothing. Go ahead and cut off the wings the Manchus gave you. I won't stop you, I'm just going to sit back and laugh lol
>>538927996>do whatever you want.What the Chinese will do is to probably build more factories, and produce more gadets.There is probably a lot of resources in the Harbin province so they are not likely to give it up, and there is no one there who is asking for independence anyway.So the only thing that is realistic for you is to stop begging, which appears to be what you have done now, that's the realistic take.
>>538918232>their real agenda is to recreate the Ming Dynasty againAnd how does this affect me personally?
