I dont need any credentials. You will know very soon, that I am a legit whistleblower.NATO Europe is giving Ukraine weapons that are internationally prohibited. The long range UAVs are made in Europe. The "heroic story" of Ukraine making those themselves is a blatant lie. The engines are in fact from Austria, Germany and Italy. The drones only get assembled inside Ukraine and they build the "outer shell", so to speak. And Russia knows this. The missiles Ukraine is supposedly producing, which will VERY SOON be used against Russia, are a joint venture of France and the UK.Russia knows this as well.Those missiles are the most dangerous and the absolute red-line for Putin. And he warned Europe that if those missiles are used, that he will officially declare war on Ukraine. With that, any support given to Ukraine automatically makes a country an active party of the war. Why do you think Putin refrained from ever declaring war against Ukraine? Because he never expected the situation to escalate to this extend. He underestimated how much Europe hates Russia and wants it broken up and get rid of its nuclear capabilities.AMA!And I will reveal something you guys have never heard before!
>>538961384>And I will reveal something you guys have never heard before!Yes, please reveal how to get anthro waifu.
>>538961384Why do you ziggers suck so hard at propaganda?
>>538961384So how much dedovschina would you suffer(enjoy) if this didn't work?
>>538961384don't forget europeans that you brought the war to your own doorstep, don't regret it later, i warned you for years what would happen if you abandoned a neutral stance and became active aggressors that it would bring the next war to your door, for your sakes i hope this isn't true.
>>538961384Outsider hereEverybody knows this already, water is wet and Putin won't do shit.
>>538961384I can definitely see those missiles being Putin's red line if they have a steady supply coming they're pretty devastating. My question is what is the timeline to seeing them deployed in the war?
>>538962231Don't care
>>538961384This should have been obvious as most of the manufacturing in Ukraine was in the Russian speaking regions. Western Ukraine basically arose out of being able to charge a toll for transiting oil and gas to Europe from Russia.They have no industrial history which would indicate a capacity to domestically develop, even with outside training and material assistance, turbine and sensor components necessary for such drones and missiles.Playing along, NATO surely knows Putin will declare war and expects him to. What does NATO intend to do with this, as it is clearly their agenda to cause it.
>>538961384If Putin destroyed ports in Odessa, railway hub in Lviv and bridges along Dneipr in 2022 they wouldn't be in this situation.
>>538962231it really was that simple, do nothing
>>538962303you stupid fucking fools.
>>538961384what will jewlenski do with the missles?did ladybugs know this, did this cause his heart attack?do you fuck pussy OP?
>>538962354Mutt-beaner opinion discarded.
Okay. Lets kick this off then. Russia will invade from Belarus and try to capture Kiev itself in the summer campaign. Putin will declare war on Ukraine and start the invasion with about 500k men. The Kreml will use its most advanced weapons directly on Kiev. This time he will throw everything at Kiev and he will nor restrain himself. Its not about strategic towns or rivers or anything. It will be a total decapitation strike. NATO knows this but they cant do anything about it., Because after officially declaring war, Putin will pull the nuclear card and force Europe to backup. Any and all help towards Ukraine will be declared a direct aggression towards Russia. It will happen next month or in September latest.He does it because the russia military and Oligarchs are fed up with this half-assed measures. They want to give the russian people a second wind and also mask the cost of this shit-show, so to speak. Because Russia strategic oil reserves are at an all time low and its not even affecting just the econoym anymore. Its directly affecting the russian populace in their daily lives.
>>538962383you remember what happened last time europe got embroiled in war my friend, because surely you aren't advocating for that to happen again, surely.
>>538961384>I dont need any credentialsUhh, yes, you do. Post the buttplug.
>>538962354Why do you even care? Don't you have a war to fight for Israel?
>>538961384as far as a know unmanned UAVs are not prohibited, and the the fact that you spend two paragraphs claiming that NATO gave them illegal weapons without actually naming even a broad category which they belong makes me believe you are a lying faggot
>>538961384Nuke the Vatican, execute the Rothschilds, Nuke Israel, Nuke the UAE, Nuke New York, Nuke Moscow, Nuke D.C, Nuke Langley, Nuke Beijing. Fuck this world to death so that something good may come about.
>>538962427>you rememberYes, mutts ruined everything.
>>538962433WHY DON'T YOU, YOU STUPID FUCKS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ARSENAL TO DEFEND YOU PROPERLY, AND WITH THE WAR IN IRAN WE'RE STRETCHED OUT TO THE MAX WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU THINKING.
>>538961384What is it like to suck mountains of dick?https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/538828821
>>538962476Forgot; Nuke Berlin
>>538961384>AMA!WW3 when?
>>538961384>With that, any support given to Ukraine automatically makes a country an active party of the war.approximately 14 days after the red line is crossed the gloves will come off for real this time
Big if true. Imagine how many niggers in Europe will die.>mfw niggers were imported to increase the body count, i.e., "sacrifice" to molochBy the way, you can't sacrifice something that doesn't belong to you; at that point it's just killing.>we own everyone!!!No, (((you))) don't.
>>538962540Putin is in a position where he can't keep this going forever, he has to escalate.
>>538961936>says the mentally ill tranny that gets off to gore videos.Your propaganda is far worse
>>538962420>Russia will invade from Belarusoh you really are a lying faggot. Invade fucking Belarus? when a coup would be better and just as unlikely to actually happen? God, real life is not fucking HOI4
>>538961384Does every German girl in a 50 miles radius of Wiesbaden still have an illegitimate American child?How’s Lil Hans doing?
>>538961384My uncle, who is a nigger working at nintendo, confirms this and tongues my anus
>>538961907Mina is reserved for BBC (Big Bat Cock)
>>538962636Look at Belarus geography and you will know why. You can throw a coin from the border and it will roll into Kiev.
>>538962536That depends entirely on China, unironically. AFAIK the chinese needed more time and thats one of the reason Putin is still not escalating things. But China is pretty much ready know. And one more info. Taiwan is just a ruse. China could take it anytime it wants. But its a great way to divide US navals forces for an island that is, for know, irrelevant to Beijing.
>>538962752Lukashenko wont do shit, Belarusians dont even want to be involved in this shitshow
>>538962476kek, never seen that one, saved
>>538961384>legit whistleblowerYour entire post is just a general summary of everything anyone with a basic interest in this war already knows.
>The long range UAVs are made in Europe.Everyone knows, they talk about it openly, you larping turbo faggot
>>538962853Re China... That makes a lot of sense actually.Do you have any idea why Putin is still not punishing NATO for manufacturing drones? At the very least, why isn't he shooting down drones over the Black Sea that are doing recon?
>>538962420Not the plan I would choose if I were Putin, but perhaps, presuming this is true (not sure why NATO would know), Putin knows something I don't that changes the calculus.
>>538962880He has no choice. Why do you think Belarus is alway skept outr of the news cycle? Lukashenko is in deep trouble. His economy will collapse before Russias and he needs to show some results to his population. Because as it stands now Belarus has lost the most in this war and Lukashenko is pretty much on lifeline thanks to Putin. He (Putin) can replace him anytime he wants.
>>538961384>>538962420So I read both of your posts.>>538962752and this oneOne thing that strikes me is that it seems to me that you claim to know some things about Russian plans and capabilities.You also are posting from Germany.Weisbaden is an Operational Hub of the U.S. Army in Germany.Do you see what I'm focusing on?You need to drop some actual credentials at this point with a timestamp.>>538962853China doesn't want to get involved. I think your analysis of China is flawed.>notmyproblem.jpg
>>538962606if he launched a missile and exploded a demonstration nuke in the Nagev desert in Israel the war would be over immediately
>>538962963He also needed time. The attacky by Ukraine are actually even worse than what is reported. Many people in the west do not realize that there a very specific parts in Russia oil industry that they cant produce. Nor can China or any of their allies. The US, UK, Norway and Germany can produce those parts. I think its about pressure valves. Yes, something that small sounding is an essential part that literally fucks Russias entire economy. And they cant get them and remove used one from other parts. But the damage is too severe. The Europeans know exactly where to hit them hardest. People dont realize how fragile all of our infrastructure actually is and how much control the west has over it.
>>538962752Look at actual Belarusian geography, over half of the country is fucking forest and marshland. Invading it in order to flank Ukraine is a bad idea, a literal quagmire. Only a 16 year old whose brain has been rot on HOI4 would think that fucking country is either Schlieffen or Manstein Plan material. Putin wont invade it.Also, you fucking faggot, you havent told what prohibited weapons Ukraine actually has, UAVs (unmanned or otherwise) are not prohibited as far as i know.
>>538962420>start the invasion with about 500k menBuilding on this hypothetical they would have to weaken their western sectors too much to threaten NATO directly. Any threats toward Germany et al. could only be fulfilled with missile systems thus depriving them for use on Kiev.Basically your entire disclosure is reliant on them nuking Europe and then convincing Trump to not retaliate. Which Trump can't prevent and they know it. So they will probably just keep on winning the way they are already winning and focus on splitting American soldiers from treaty obligations in Europe.
>>538961384stfu kike
>>538962420>the oligarchsRetard
>>538963246There is anm international ban on missile sales that go over the 250 km range. Google it, if you dont believe me. And the UAVs are in fact not UAVs in the traditional sense but longrange missle plattforms. They fall into the same category due to their one way and offensive only usage. You can google all of this. Im not lying!
>>538961384F-35 stallspeed
>>538963312You have no idea who those Oligarchs are. Im not speaking about the morons who buy english football teams and yachts in Europe. The Oligarchs who are Oligarchs from the times of the Soviet Union. They still have lots of power and sway in Russia. Putin is not the sole ruler like many people are led to believe. He also has to answer to them, ultimately.
If you read OP know that he is an idiot.What will really happen is the Eurofags will send their new batch of Ukraine-brand Storm Shadow missiles at civilians inside Russia and in response Russia will blow the shit out of the factories in Europe that are producing them. This will shock and appall Europeans because their governments and media have lied to them about everything and several governments will fall apart in response. Russia will not be one of them.
>>538963242>there a very specific parts in Russia oil industry that they cant produceThe only thing they "cant produce" are cutting edge cpu's/gpu's. They absolutely are capable of manufacturing anything needed in their domestic supply chain. Whether they have the resources to do so while being droned daily is another question entirely. However, if they are on the verge of an oil system collapse why would they massively escalate their energy demands? The last country that tried that (twice) has sexual emergency rape allowances today.
>>538963413Are those same missiles or drones used on recent strikes by Ukraine in Russia?
>>538961936100% true faggot>https://www.gov.uk/government/news/750-million-package-to-provide-ukraine-with-150000-drones-and-boost-air-defence
>>538963251You are correct. Without China a conventional war against Europe is extremely costly. Even with a US that is staying out of such conflict. And they will, btw!They need chinese forces, chinese naval vessels and chinese armor. People need to realize that the Iran war is the single biggest mistake US made since the Vietnam War. Iran destroyed more than people know. The US has lost major projection power. Why do you think they cant even take the Strait of Hormuz. Their projection power has severly diminished and they are too scared to leave China unchecked. There are litteraly NO ressources for a war against Russia. The US couldnt intervene even if they wanted.
>>538963529You are a retarded faggot shill
>>538963510Putin is not the ‘sole ruler’ that is correct. Russia has something called the Security Council and they together decide policy. The members are public as are many of their meetings. You can follow what those members say to know what Russia’s position is. They have told Europe what the consequences will be and even published the names and addresses of the sites they will be targeting inside Europe. Was that reported in Der Spiegel?
>>538961384>He underestimated how much Europe hates Russia and wants it broken up and get rid of its nuclear capabilities.He must be retarded then. Who the fuck would actually like this retard when he's consistently antagonized Europe for over a decade.
>>538961384I hope Italy gets annihilated I hate this country with a passion I don't care if I have to die, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make I want this shit people to get glassed, fucking nigger cattle or a people and country
>>538963704This guy seems to believe that Europe has a military that can fight Russia. This is not true.
>>538963528And it wouldn't automatically guarantee an article 5 response since they initiated hostilities. So this is a credible threat.
>>538963729The US had a Bush or Clinton running in every presidential election for 40 years.But hey no kings ! No olygarfields!
>>538961384>AMAWill Europe get glassed? I want billions of dead >But muh whites Nigger fucking cattle sucking jewish cocks day in day out, better all dead
>>538963780>article 5So what?
>>538963706Elaborate on why I am wrong anon.
>>538963808>glassedNot unless they try and nuke Russia. Rekt - yes.
Russia can't and won't do shit.
>>538961384Russia ain't gonna react in fact i doubt anything happens it's like machine that enjoys misery.
>>538962420Interdasting... Will NATO article 5 if "Russia" attacks Poland?
>>538962420Putin is a subhuman faggot coward cuck and should've been killed a long time ago I genuinely hope all his family is killed, this faggot doesn't deserve a legacy
>>538963510Am I an Oligarch? And why did you capitalize the word?
>And I will reveal something you guys have never heard before!which is? and how is this going to affect me in the UK?
>>538961384I don't care, the bombings will continue until morale improves. Also, even after morale morale improves, more bombings will commence until Russia becomes a complete gachimuchi nation.
>>538963959Maybe he’s coming over to suck you off?
>>538963897Germany and the UK are the more likely targets. Russia isn’t going to roll a division over the Polish border that is absurd.
>>538962476This Total death and annihilation everywhere
>>538961384keep us posted.
Nothing ever happens.
>>538963704So China is going to deploy 500k men to cover their shortfall in the west once they attack towards Kiev? What exactly is your argument? The Russians must maintain an impregnable defence along the NATO border or risk serious danger. They are capable of destroying Ukraine entirely but doing so would require an instantaneous re-ordering of their economy. What indications lead you to believe they have completed the necessary preparations to mobilize?
>>538963242While it is true that there are fragile spots in our infrastructure, I am skeptical that, for a system so critical, Russia either has no plan to replace it or no capacity to manufacture suitable replacements in either part or sum.I sometimes encounter a part I can't replace and have to replace the whole system the component is a part of.Not to deny that Russia is feeling some pressure both internally and economically to put a stop to Ukraine as a staging platform.>>538963704Lol... LMAOPlease, PLEASE tell me that is a real NATO assessment.If that is seriously NATO's assessment of America's conflict with Iran, then set dials for maximum fun, as those fucking retards will not see the entire world change out from under them.
>>538962420So the invasion will start in August?
>>538961384>the absolute red-line for Putin.So nothing will happen, basically.
Imagine if Mexico was bombing gas stations in Vermont after 4 years of losing every Abrams and F-15 in our inventory.
>>538963780Article 5 doesn't mean shit without the US. Eurofags have done nothing but shit on us for the past 4 decades while we put the bite in their uppidy ass bark. Good luck with those immigrant soldiers lolAfghans and Iraqis who we tried to train were absolute retards
>>538963809No A5, no immediate retaliation without oversight, and a number of other things which give Trump political flexibility.
>>538964194>TrumpWhat do you think his military can do?
Everyone knows the purpose of the war is to kill Ukrainian and Russian men in order to make both countries more suitable for colonization
>>538961384What's the plans for mass unrest?
>>538963704China has nothing to gain from helping their trailer trash neighbor. On the other hand, if China were to knock Putin out of power, well, there's a lot to gain there. Europe and the US would both be grateful.
>>538964172Colonel-private Hassan Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed is a fascinating phenomenon for all the wrong reasons.
I just hope Berlin gets nuked
>>538964172>Article 5 doesn't mean shit without the USWhich is why Russia was smart to wait until the Euros exposed themselves and ceded A5 obligations from the US.
>>538964069cope more faggot, Iran won and you got cucked so hard, the whole world hates you faggots and your pedo president
>>538964239Enough to matter.
Sorry but there are too many questions and I cant answer all of them. But I will make a general statement.The stories about attacking Poland, The Baltics etc. are utter bullshit. Only to rile up the european populace, that is fed up with the cost of this war.Putins initial tactic for the war was to drag it long enough, until the european economys start to collapse and inner turmoil would force the europeans to abandon Ukraine. That hasnt happened for two reasons. Europe pumped its economies with credits that will never be payed back and they did major credit swaps (central bank currency swaps) with the Biden Administration early on. Nothing but sliding debts to another form of debts to another form of debts. All bullshit!The problem now however is that Trump is fucking their entire plan up. And he already did more damage than people realize. He forced Europe to swap the credits back at rates that benefit the US. Why do you think close to 20 trillion USD came inside the US economy? Trump was not lying. Most of that money comes from Europe, who got the short end of the stick. Thats why they absolutely loath Trump but cant do shit about it because they need the US more than the US needs them.
>>538961384This is Russian disinfo, like literally 30% of all posts on this board.Of course the zoomer retards that inhabit this place now just see a German flag, and can't even understand the concept of a VPN.
>>538961384This is literally just a World War 3 thread with extra, pretend steps. Almost got me for a second there's no actual information here, just innuendo.
>>538964464False
>>538961384>Russia knows this as well.of course they do NOW!!!!duuuuhway to ruin the mission by posting about it on here
Ei gude wie?
>>538963830Ukraine makes no optics. No electronics. No aviation industry. They get kits they assemble and pretend they are producing thier own drones.Fire Point and the other company that makes those vampire drones are a fucking joke money laundering operation.The owner of Firepoint fled to Israel last year with milliions he stole (Mindich)
>>538964310I am perhaps a bit divergent, there.I'll take the Putin over Xi in terms of geopolitics.There is a real opportunity coming up as Russia looks to break out of cold war containment and China is imploding from CCP retardation. We are culturally more aligned with Russia but economically more aligned with China. There is a cultural bridge in the background once you get below cultivator drama and backstabbyness.The future is one with the U.S. as a primary martial power block with Russia and China cooperating under our proverbial empire. 30 years from now, we'll be building shit in space and figuring out how to trust each other enough to not bombard the earth's surface from the moon or something and a lot of this will disappear into the background of a common rational industrial culture.
>>538961384>absolute red-line for Putin. And he warned Europe that if those missiles are used, that he will officially declare war on Ukraine.Kek
>>538964310You really think China is blind? When Russia falls, China is not getting anything. China will be alone against the entire West and entire East. Chinas lifeline is Russia, as much China is the one of Russia. Its actually that simple. The US and Europe will NEVER allow China to project hard force aroudn the world, Even their economy is getting attacked by the day now. The know they are running out of time and cant passively watch anymore.
>>538963780You think the US is in any shape to commit to an actual boots on the ground operation? In FUCKING RUSSIA of all places? Lmfao, the fuck is our leadership going to do? I dare them, I DOUBLE TRIPLE NIGGERDAGGOT DOG dare them to try a mass conscription effort. There is a better chance of a spontaneous showing of millions of people in DC armed with their personal weaponry demanding congress and the executive come out with their hands up than them getting any meaningful manpower pulled up for this fucking boondoggle you have in your head if they try to pull this shit. That would be our "fuck these niggers" moment collectively.
>>538961384stfu zigger.
>>538964494>I cant answer all of themYou haven't answered any of them.
>>538961384>Those missiles are the most dangerous and the absolute red-line for Putinoh is that the one? I thought the absolute red line was supplying himars to russia or something? that was in 2022. these red lines go by so quickly, forgive me
>>538964772Best Korea could beat all if Europe in a ground war. The EU is full of faggots and the 50 million shitskin refugees aint going to help you fight.
>>538963529>Russia>>538964717>UkraineReading comprehension son.
>>538964861I hope one of the best korean battle woman will liberate me, if you know what I mean.
>>538964824We are talking about missiles that have a range of 2-3000 km... Do you know what that means? With these missiles, Russia could lose its most essential refineries and gasfields in the north-west. The damage know is already bad enough. Those missiles have a payload of 250-450kg. They will cause irreversible damage.
Here’s a thought, instead of donating money and weapons to these faggots let’s fly over 1 million filthy Indians who mass migrated to the west and donate them to the war efforts for either side and force them to fight each other then focus on removing Israel from the map since they look like subhuman Neanderthals as well
>>538963242>>I am a nato inside in wiesbaden... >>the west >>the europeansFunny how you talk about us in the third Person. But then you finally let it slip:>Many people in the west do not realize that there a very specific parts in Russia oil industry that they cant produce. Here, Vlad, did you make your mistake:>People dont realize how fragile all of our infrastructure actually is and how much control the west has over it.>>how fragile ALL OF ->OUR<- infrastructureHaha ruskie, nice larp.
>>538964972Yes NATO makes cool missilesAm sure there wont be consequences
>>538964972Hopefully Putin can take over Europe and then liberate the Jew.S.A. from Isreal, oh... wait, Putin sucks jew dick like all the rest. Sad.
>>538965016>there a very specific parts in Russia oil industry that they cant produce.100% nafo troon propaganda
Please leave Belarus alone
>>538964794Like I said anon, enough to matter. If Russia can get guarantees that A5 won't be honoured due to Euro aggression, then it completely changes their risk logic. The fact that we are even discussing this means that the Euros have walked very far out on a very thin limb.
>>538965016Sorry but I think its clear. When I say "our" I mean all of mankind.
>>538965073Eat shit nafon troon. So why is Russia the only ones reporting on Israeli war crimes?>https://www.rt.com/india/642399-israel-gaza-babies-targets/>Babies were ‘special targets’ of Israeli killings – UN probe panel chief>A clear pattern of attacks targeting children is evident, Justice S. Muralidhar told RT India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxkmXnRQblEofficial thread thememods make it autoplay
>>538962420>Because after officially declaring war, Putin will pull the nuclear card and force Europe to backup.Cool cool, just be sure to do it on July 15 or else he'll have to wait until August 14 or September 13 or October 12 or November 11
>>538961384>NATO is helping Ukraine war with your LifeNo shit, Drafts are coming boys
>>538961384>boo hoo meanie western dog hate russia blup blup. >russia's chinese final warning. very convincing Ivan.
>>538961384Source>My anal fissured anus after multiple bbc trannys pump pozzed loads into it so I make up weird shit on 4chud to seem coolWow so brave!
>>538962420so basically ukraine lost? shocking news
>>538964972Enough time to vague post.Not enough time to answer direct technical questions which would be the bread and butter of a true subject matter expert.>Yet another hook and sinker thread. Funny, needle fishing wouldn't be required if they had genuine power.
>>538965176Fuck you. Putin is on his knees for the kike lubavitchers as hard as trump is. Ukraine will become Jewsrael 2.0
>>538961384what sort of red-line-cope is this again?
>>538964384Look, there are plenty of things to quip about when it comes to Trump or foreign policy writ large, but when you start yapping about him being a pedophile, it brands you as a completely insufferable retard who is not concerned with reality in the slightest.And if we were weak, it wouldn't matter whether or not I believe we are hated. The reality is the opposite. It doesn't matter if you love or hate us, we have the capability to compel your compliance. Even Russia is no longer fully immune to this. It would be pointless and stupid, but if we needed to in order to prove a point, we could completely demilitarize Russia and roll tanks around Moscow.Don't get me wrong, it would hurt. We would take an appreciable exchange ratio and it may even favor Russia depending upon how logistics pan out, but we could do it "if enraged and no regard for self" men vs gorilla style setup.If anyone truly thinks the U.S. is seriously harmed by the conflict in Iran, they are only going to get a rather serious and violent adjustment to reality.Example, OP> China can take taiwan-No. They do not have the combined lift capacity to land troops. They may have the missile capacity to collectively overwhelm interceptors (or perhaps not, we don't disclose everything we have manufactured), but that will be an expensive exchange in any regard as missiles will be fired in return and we have demonstrated the capacity to penetrate China's air defense grids.OP navigates out of this by pointing out it is mostly a propaganda issue for the CCP and they are more interested in other events.Regardless, a true war with China unfolds with a U.S. blockade. We capture ships in and out and China can't survive without imports of raw ores and material. They venture too far out to sea and we torpedo them using means of our choice.We can fight them and Russia simultaneously if we need to. And what is left of Iran.And all that will come of it is that we will Willow Run missiles.
>>538964972The Russians are more upset about the attacks on civilians. Why don’t you address that? Oh, right, got it.
>>538965378There are no civilians in Russia. Only communists.
>>538961384Putin doesn't know anything, shitty LARP
>>538961384OK, Sehrgay, Ich frag dich mal was- was machste in Deutschland, du Scheißratte?
>>538965437>There are no civilians in Russia. Only communists.Lindsey Graham! are you talking to us from beyond the grave? are you in hell right now?
>>538965260Ask me a specific question then. I think I gave enough information for a general understanding.China will NEVER allow russia to fall. Its not because they love or even like each other. Its pure and utter self-preservation.Lukashenko can NOT defy Putin because his own ass is on the line there and he is ready to sacrifice his entire country to save himself.The Europeans are scared to shit of Russia nuclear arsenal and so is the US.The US is not capable of fighting a smultzaneous war against Iran, Russia and China. The only thing left in the world the US is afraid of is Russia nuclear arsenal. Because nothing else in the world can destroys the US but that.
>>538965364You are a propagandist for the jews
>>538961384>I dont need any credentials. You will know very soon, that I am a legit whistleblower.>NATO Europe is giving Ukraine weapons that are internationally prohibited. The long range UAVs are made in Europe. The "heroic story" of Ukraine making those themselves is a blatant lie. The engines are in fact from Austria, Germany and Italy. The drones only get assembled inside Ukraine and they build the "outer shell", so to speak. And Russia knows this.>The missiles Ukraine is supposedly producing, which will VERY SOON be used against Russia, are a joint venture of France and the UK.>Russia knows this as well.>Those missiles are the most dangerous and the absolute red-line for Putin. And he warned Europe that if those missiles are used, that he will officially declare war on Ukraine. With that, any support given to Ukraine automatically makes a country an active party of the war. Why do you think Putin refrained from ever declaring war against Ukraine? Because he never expected the situation to escalate to this extend. He underestimated how much Europe hates Russia and wants it broken up and get rid of its nuclear capabilities.Based, let the rusnigger vermin seethe impotently.
>>538965378You are absolutely wrong. Russia has never cared for human life in its entire history. Neither did China.
>>538963242>The US, UK, Norway and Germany can produce those parts.Should I start to learn Russian, or is Russia unlikely to acquire that capacity by invading us? I hear rumors Russia wish to demonstrate that NATO is a paper tiger, unwilling to defend its members.
>>538965547> The US is not capable of fighting a smultzaneous war against Iran, Russia and China. The US is not capable of fighting against even one of them.
>>538965657We just give aid to jews. We're screwed.
>>538965609It must really grind your gears to see the chinky Mongol hordes showing you up but You being upset does not make it untrue.
>>538965617NATO without the US is a papertiger. Ironically Turkey, who many people in the west still severly underestimate, is the other power that can bruteforce a stalemate against pretty much any country in the world. The Europeans do not have that "grit" anymore. Their countries would internally collapse long before any meaningful forced draft could take place. Europe is too pacified. If that happened due to choice or forced upon them, thats up to debate.
>>538965754You will find out soon after Russia hits your weapons production facilities. Did Der Spiegel report that?
>>538964046>What indications lead you to believe they have completed the necessary preparations to mobilize?>>538965547>Ask me a specific question thenThere you go anon.
>>538963704>People need to realize that the Iran war is the single biggest mistake US made since the Vietnam Warthe us doesn't even need to go boots on the ground to completely annihilate the iranian population. they are quite polite right now.
>>538962536why is Gemini so freaking based?!?!
>>538965016> how much control the west has over it.>>the west (that you larped as part of) Nope, it was very specific about the russian Part.
>>538961384So what, russians get half their shit from china.
>>538965609>Russian and China government never cared about their peopleNo Shit, neither does ours.
>>538962420>Okay. Lets kick this off then. Russia will invade from Belarus and try to capture Kiev itself in the summer campaign. Putin will declare war on Ukraine and start the invasion with about 500k men. The Kreml will use its most advanced weapons directly on Kiev. This time he will throw everything at Kiev and he will nor restrain himself. Its not about strategic towns or rivers or anything. It will be a total decapitation strike.I think i heard this before.
>>538965547When will they false flag the terrorist attack in the US and the nuclear explosion?
>>538965824China is in a war economy since Obama hit them with sanctions. Thats how long they are preparing. What we see of China in the west over the internet is a facade for the western "viewers". There are entire industrial regions that produce nothing but armaments. Chinas industrial scale right now is almost at the scale of the Soviet Union in the 1960s. In some ways its even bigger than that. According to our estimates, China could wield a 20 million men strong force in a matter of a few months.
>>538966028>Chinas industrial scale right now is almost at the scale of the Soviet Union in the 1960swhat kind of brain damage makes you say this, zigger?
>>538966025I dont think they need to do that. China is attacking the US over other vectors, for now.Social-Media manipulation, migrant waves and social unrest via financing extreme ethnic and racially motivated movements. The same playbook the soviets tried decades ago.
>>538961384red lines intensifies
>>538962231what are you talking about? everyone tried to be nice to russia, germany went above and beyond this at the expense of diplomatic relations with its neighbors and the usa and still russia acts like niggers
>>538966028>20 million men>>538965824>What indications lead you to believe they have completed the necessary preparations to mobilize?Just answer the question anon. This is kindergarten tier intel work.
>>538961384>NATO Europe is giving Ukraine weapons that are internationally prohibitedLike the depleted uranium shells they have been using for years?
>>538965754Kacaptcheg, ich hab dich was gefragt- was machste in Deutschland, Scheißriusgi?>nah, just a VPN pidor
>>538966137I think you cant even comprehend the scale, in which China operates these days. Typical european arrogance, that will cost you dearly.
>>538961384so the fuck what?we give them Patriot systems.you think they make those?you fucks should be giving them more shit, and you should quit being fucking pussies about it and do it openly.faggot bitch
>>538966284i think you cannot even comprehend my post
>>538964972ukraine's own drones reach that far. they've bombed strategic planes and nuclear submarines. cucktin just lets it happen.>They will cause irreversible damage.don't threaten me with a good time
>>538966284Answer the question anon.How do your 20,000,000 chink meatshields get to the battlefield and what do they use once they get there?
>>538966257What do you mean? Chinas biggest strength is not its airforce or missile capabilties. Its is naval landing capabilities. China has the biggest fleet of landing ships in the entire world. Even dwarfing the US Navy. In fact its Navy is more numerous. Quality wise the US is still superior though.
>>538962630It's not propaganda.It's what you all get vpniggers.
I wanted to enlist for a career in the armyShould I do it or not? Keep in mind that this country is a repeat of Saguntum
Lots of whining and crying itt, it will multiply a thousand fold once Russia starts bombing legitimate targets in NAFO nations.
>>538966028>The great firewall of China is just a ruse for the real glory that is the Chinese military complexI suppose Google Earth is just complying with the Chinese and not showing anything? Nor are other satellite operators?We can watch them build a mockup of a destroyer to tow around the desert for radar studies, but the foundries of mordor are working behind the ruse of the Chinese economy the West sees ... Or... Something.Frankly, if that is the case it is retarded. China's most effective weapon by far are low cost manufactured goods, the setup costs of said lines is often subsidized by the nation as a specific economic assault on foreign manufacturing.To build a bunch of shit that will get their people killed is a waste of time and resources.And how do they plan to move this 20 million man army around? Like that is cool if they seriously have one that big - but if it can only sit there in China, it may as well not even exist.
>>538966392So Xi is going to perform naval landings with 20 million soldiers to help Russia invade Europe? You claimed to have insider knowledge of Russia's intent to broaden the war. Now you are talking about chink drowning machines. Where are the boots they need? Where are the meals they will eat? Where are the firing ranges they will zero their rifles on? Why are you so gay and annoying?
>>538966386Having 20 million men does not mean 20 million of them marching in the same direction. I think you dont understand how modern war works. Those men are also there to keep India Japan, Thailand etc. in check. Of course they wont let 20 million men march to Europe...I didnt think I would have the need to explain that to you...
>>538966392>Chinas biggest strength is not its airforce or missile capabilties.Kek. isn't Russian using them with no use. so the get it from Iran instead?
>>538966536Great, so educate me on how Russia is going to divert 500,000 men (really several million when logistics are counted) and just leave their most obvious flank wide open while Europe is openly re-arming.
>>538966246Imagine believing this. Read what Merkel said about Minsk 2
>>538966530>20 million soldiers20 million drones
OP is absolutely retarded and speculating.Russia will win any smo they start and finish because they are not gay. Every Jewed western country's military is gay fags useless in hot war. Putin never has to declare hot war. He could have killed zelensky hundreds of times and didn't because Ukraine will give up the crimean peninsula and zelensky will have to hold another election that he loses. Everyone who joins the anti faggot jihad is guaranteed to beat zionazis because Rothschild is doomed to annihilation. This isn't ww3, ww2 never ended and Jews will be the sacrifice to end all wars.
>>538963739Sounds like how I feel about the niggerified shithole I was born into, but the people here are actual subhuman animalsWhat is so bad about Italy?
>>538966633The same logistics requirements cripple everyone equally. OP is an idiot but the argument is worth exploring. So far the only point of interest itt is that article 5 isn't valid when people wade into their own shit and then beg to be hosed off.
>>538961384Based!Total zigger death, the cube must grow!
>>538966392> China naval landingThey have some interesting barges that are of mild concern for Taiwan, but they lack the blue water logistics to be a relevant player in global affairs. You can ferry some troops somewhere, maybe feed them on the way, but a long term logistics pipeline is just not in the cards and it is fundamentally predicated on the U.S. being a neutral player.You remember that video of what a mk48 did to that Iranian transport?With modern real time intelligence and our attack sub fleet, we can put the whole transport capacity of China beneath the waves faster than they can load the things.
>>538966601500k men is not that large for Russia. It can easily extract those from its eastern areas.Russia cant be invaded. Its impossible. Neither can China or the US. You guys dont understand the issue here. Europe can be invaded because it doesnt have a nuclear detterence. The UK nukes are literally under US control. The cant even fire them without US codes. Only France has autark nuclea strike capabiltiies but they are far too weak. 250 warheads, at best. And that is not enough for Russia. Those nukes are not some doomsday device. You need a dozen of them to level a single city. And more of them to hit industrial regions. And then you still need many more to hit military sites and we are still not talking about Russias hundreds of nuclear sites. Do you understand now how those numbers are simply not enough in an all out nuclear exchange?
>>538966536Sehrgay, switch of your VPN and stop larping, du Scheißrusse
>>538961384You would've thought the world got the message when he sent a blank Oreshnik. If it had warheads in it Ukraine would already be gone.
>>538966728In theory that is how article V works.The OP is correct in that Europe wants to trigger an article V scenario to pull the U.S. in to fight the war for them. Which is kind of the unspoken part.Europe, itself, doesn't have the logistical capability to engage Russia in an article V scenario. They are completely dependent upon the U.S. for rides.
>>538961384>He underestimated how much *You know who* hates RussiaFTFY
>>538966808Lmao: the post.>Anon, go to bed its late and you have school in the morning. If you manage to find another 500k men and trucks hiding out in Siberia which can be deployed without breaking conscription regulations, I am sure Putin will personally award you a gold star (made of real gold) and give you a lifetime stipend you can waste on pretty girls and videogames.
>>538962420So Putin's own version of the Kaiserschlacht before revolution at home topples his regime?
>>538961384Only really 20 real humans posts on this board at any given time. That's why only generals threads are populated. It's glorified circlejerk chat rooms. For now, due to the nature of modern computer architecture, age verification cannot prevent anonymous profiles from bypassing it. Check out this post for further information. Thank you for your attention to this matter. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/538961384/#q538964244
>>538965138>When I say "our" I mean all of mankind
>>538961384I know. I told my brother that he was wrong and that the west did not understand Russian war philosophy and that Russia was actually more equipped to shell them at a distance.Ukraine did not Alpha Strike russiaThey got alpha stuck.Ukraine is in ruins. More of Ukraine is fucked than Russia and Russia now is going full tilt and most likely going to hit Poland next once the west is nice and out of resources.Russia will continue a slow meat grinder just for the sake of Chaos in warfare.
>>538962383>turk roach bants Post hand
>>538966910That was the final red line...before the other last red line.
>>538966808>Russia cant be invaded>nukes are not some doomsday deviceYou're a retard mate.
>>538966918>The OP is correct in that Europe wants to trigger an article V scenario to pull the U.S. in to fight the war for them.This is the worst kept secret on earth. The question is whether or not there is an appetite to do so and what does it mean for NATO afterwards? The US doesn't lose prestige by saying that using cruise missiles and long range drones to kill Russians is an obvious act of war and in so doing Euros fucked themselves over. NATO's founding minds were far more worried about Soviet paratroopers seizing the Rhine and then eventually blockading the British Isles and removing American influence from Europe, and by extension the eastern Atlantic, forever. Like the old joke goes, the shorter the range, the deader the Germans. It takes a special type of stupid to think 'tricking' the Russians into attacking German weapons plants will somehow cause people in north America to want to fight a nuclear war, instead of just laughing at them and making a deal behind the scenes so nothing gets out of hand.
>>538966246This was entirely intentional. Both sides are working together.This is basically a "Thrall/Jaina" thing.Leaders from both sides are fratinizing and exchanging "favors" for "the greater good"They don't care how many lives they waste in the process or how much it will engulf the world.
>>538966808>Russia can't be invadedNigger, why are you trying?Like I said, we can do it. It would be stupid and would hurt, but it can be done. They are still trying to figure out how to get around our defeat of the air defenses in Iran. That did NOT go according to their projections in the slightest.At this point, however, Europe has become a net liability for our global interests, as has NATO writ large.You're just about retarded and cucked enough that I believe you may actually have Cosmic TS clearance out of Germany.You have no idea what is going on and the most basic of strategic insights are genuine mind blowing revelations for you, apparently.Which is par for the course when it comes to various third world retards who get let off their leash and turned loose in a JTOC.
>>538961936It was the west who demoralised me. Russia will save us
>>538961384>that he will officially declare war on Ukraine.lmao>With that, any support given to Ukraine automatically makes a country an active party of the war.Please please please please PLEASE go to war with the UKI fucking beg you Putinall the foreigners would flee in terrorall our cucked government would collapse with their limp-wristed attempts at a multicultural civilizationif they nuked London, the UK would become British again overnightPLEASE
>>538961384>and then nothing happensyou wont do shit
>>538967177Im clearly referring to the absurd notion that one single nuke destroys an entire city. Russia has close to 8000 warheads. That completely changes the calculus. I swear some people really cant discern obvious stuff all by themselves.
>>538966910you don't win a territory by levelling it to the ground and making it uninhabitable and making nobody want to ever live there again
>>538962853All these chicom VPN posts are so faggy and obvious lmao. You all suck at your jobs, but your government ever cared about making the propaganda realistic for you, so you figure it works the same for trying to propagandize real people lmao.Maybe once you invade America and wave around guns and little xing ping ping thought books about the mandate of the 100 acre wood the saying retarded things tactic will have value>>538962963Chinsects are scurrying bugs and you suck at your job, wu mao The real issue?China can't invade Taiwan without alienating the international community and thereby giving everyone around it a chance to bend them over or default on their loans, seize chicom assets, etc.Not only would China be completely raped by the US military alone, the entire chinese economy would get gangbanged by an international embargo. China's only chance at survival after embargo would be to embrace Iran and any other fuzzy wuzzies that would send China gas for widgets.China would likely break up in any event, with all sorts of faggy "free uigherstan, no no no free Tibet, no no no free all those fucking regions near hainan" propaganda being promoted by the united "fuck china axis".If China COULD take Taiwan uneventfully, they would. China needs Taiwan in order to get a dick extender and make their maritime territorial claims not laughed at by everyone, everywhere. How are you manlets going to threaten japan or korea or phillippines even if you cant take a fucking island 30 miles off the coast lmao? The fact that Taiwan even exists is such a gigantic amount of yoke jizz on the collective face of the Chinese peop-urrr that it makes nobody anywhere actually threatened by China, the toothless tiger.Seriously, who the fuck are you fags trying to convince? Yourselves lmao?My favorite part about effortposting and cockslapping you minimum wage fags with my big White cock?How quickly you all scurry away or bump obvious nonsense
>>538967327In Australia? No buddy we're letting the chunks have it. Did nobody tell you?
>>538961384>NothingburgerNo shit it's assembled there. I imagine they don't have the industries for the parts.Also who gives a shit? Russians never act in good faith, why should NATO? Finally give them a taste of their Jeet-adjacent ways.
>>538966392>China has the biggest fleet of landing ships in the entire world. Even dwarfing the US Navy. In fact its Navy is more numerousGod I want them to invade taiwan.Those shitbox landing ships are fucking drone magnets.it would be a slaughter.the footage would be so fucking kino.a million dead chinksects in a single day, bet.
>>538967222Human psychology tends to work that way.I could point to Iran and ask why they are intent on fighting a war they can't win. Well, the IRGC at least. I compared it in the past to when the Japanese launched Operation Ten Go and there abouts. They knew it was effectively over but couldn't quite grok how to end it. Or at least, by the time they were interested in surrender, we were interested in demonstrating why Russia should stop and accept the current lines. The cold war had already evolved by then.Regardless, I think the thinking is much the same. Rather than pull back and recalculate, they double down. The people in these types of positions have found doubling down to be a very effective strategy within their own societies where they have a number of advantages to press.How many people play a 4x game to negotiate the best surrender possible to a superior force?It's always to press an advantage or to buy time. Few people play a game wherein the actual winning move is to concede a plan or effort failed.They double down. Their experience trains them to do so and then they run into a scenario that doesn't budge. They don't have the advantage and there's no undo turn button.They can't succeed even if they get what they want, but that's the only thing they think they have, because recalculating around abandoning that objective is just not part of the calculus.
>>538966808>500k men is not that large for Russiaholy fuck you're an idiot
back in ye olden days my small town was an industrial location of lumberyards and quarries. Now its a service economy, hopefully if nukes fly they would have updated that little factoid beforehand and im safe
>>538967378>Around 75% to 80% of Russia’s entire population lives in the European part of the country—the far western region westrelax bro, they are basically parked in 3-4 cities and in the west/european part
>>538962752RidiculousA jew would catch it first
>>538961936Why aren't you at the front, diaspora pussy?
>>538961384>And he warned Europe that if those missiles are used, that he will officially declare war on UkraineDid... did he not already do that 4 years ago?
>>538961384>I dont need any credentials. You will know very soon, that I am a legit whistleblower.>NATO Europe is giving Ukraine weapons that are internationally prohibited. The long range UAVs are made in Europe. The "heroic story" of Ukraine making those themselves is a blatant lie. The engines are in fact from Austria, Germany and Italy. The drones only get assembled inside Ukraine and they build the "outer shell", so to speak. And Russia knows this.>The missiles Ukraine is supposedly producing, which will VERY SOON be used against Russia, are a joint venture of France and the UK.>Russia knows this as well.>Those missiles are the most dangerous and the absolute red-line for Putin. And he warned Europe that if those missiles are used, that he will officially declare war on Ukraine. With that, any support given to Ukraine automatically makes a country an active party of the war. Why do you think Putin refrained from ever declaring war against Ukraine? Because he never expected the situation to escalate to this extend. He underestimated how much Europe hates Russia and wants it broken up and get rid of its nuclear capabilities.>AMA!>And I will reveal something you guys have never heard before!lmao, no shit^london (and brussels) are going to pay for all this refinery "ukraine is winning!" niggerdom they do every year around the nafo summitits not going to be pretty this time
>Trust I, I'm Adolf Schnitzel, from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern oblast da..
>>538966406Found the seething jew
>>538961384Biden gave them mini-nukes. Whats your point?Russia Invaded, The End...all bets are off.Especially when you had no real tangible reason for doing so. the way the international world sees it, Ukraine can use and do what ever it wants to Russia. Gorilla warfare tactics are also prohibited as well as "Terrorism" but people still use them to defend their home lands. Context is everything , Russia did a stupid thing invading, even more stupid, Failing to read David and Goliath. Russia has no story, no reason for being there. Its strictly a resource grab. Basically, Russia as a country right now has show the world they are niggers coming to kick in your door and steal your shit. Like I said, all bets are off. Ukraine can violate what ever laws it wants when it comes to defending their soil. 1991 boarders set by the Kremlin established Crimea and DPR as Ukrainian. Russians only had a navy base on Crimea that they were fucking on a lease. Almost every excuse is projection, almost ever reason a lie. Russians are worse than Jews, niggers, jeets and Arabs combined and the world is tired of their shit.
>>538967909Technically, no.The easter regions of Ukraine procedurally seceded from Ukraine and joined the Russian federation.From Russia's standpoint, they have merely been enforcing the will of Russian people to be a part of Russia.The history of the area is long and everyone thinks everyone started it - but Ukraine had militias and official military units which would go and harass the Russian regions in the East. Partisans developed to oppose this and, yes, they were partially funded by Russia.When Ukraine bid to be part of NATO, the concern was that Ukraine would immediately turn to appeal that the partisans in the region constituted an invasion by Russia.This would have likely built a broader western consensus for a war with Russia among the public.The secession movement and "special military operation" basically avoided a war between Europe and Russia... On paper... And has limited the public support for intervention.If I have to pick a side in this conflict - I pick Russia.
>>538961384>NATO Europe is giving Ukraine weapons that are internationally prohibited.By whom, and why would it matter?>The long range UAVs are made in Europe. The "heroic story" of Ukraine making those themselves is a blatant lie. The engines are in fact from Austria, Germany and Italy. The drones only get assembled inside Ukraine and they build the "outer shell", so to speak. And Russia knows this.Who gives a shit if russia knows or not? They can't do a fuck about it.
>>538961384Sag dem BND er lutscht Eier und besteht nur aus boomern und woken aids weibern
>>538961384>The engines are in fact from Austria, Germany and Italy. The drones only get assembled inside Ukraine and they build the "outer shell", so to speak. And Russia knows this.Everybody knows this, retard.At best they they follow the final "IKEA" instructions to setup the drone but 99% of the work is done elsewhere.That's why Russia is having so much trouble. There's nothing of value to hit in the ukraine. """Their""" MIC is in Europe and unless Russia grows a pair and bombs eurofags, nothing is going to change.
>>538962264This. Russia would get its ass blown out fer realz if they went up against the west.
>>538961384You are telling me that Russia is getting fucked with Western weapons, intelligence, and support? Sounds pretty good to me.Putin can end this today and not lose any territory - he just needs to pack it up and go home. It's really that simple.
>>538967424>china dis china datchina manufacturing almost everything retard, they wull survive, international community will be the only one cut offeven MAGA hats "Made in China"kekaroo
>>538970106Russia already killed 1 US senatornothingburger
>>538962420>Summer campaign Buddy July is like half over.
>>538961384Wut? America has supplied the shit out of ukraine, but europe giving ukies a couple of vroom vroom toys, is a hard red line for russia? Really? That's a giant load of crap, and you know it. Nothing more than a flimsy excuse to escalate the war, is what it is. If that red line crap was real, putin would have escalated the war the second the americans started to seriously arm ukraine.
>>538970310If this shit doesn't kick off by August 30th then OP is a faggotHe very likely is a lying faggot regardless
>>538961384>AMA!How's the weather in Chemnitz?
>>538962231Russia and America cannot defeat us.
>>538970362August 31st*Nothing ever happens ever
>>538964153Very funny everyone knows that NH is the jew stronghold. Gavin Newsome, Elon Musk, Mitt Romeny, Pete Buttiedgedgez tulsi gabbard, Kristi Knoem and many others are hiding over a trillion dollars in NH.
>>538961384Thanks for that information Pidortyr
>>538970307Boofuckinghoo they killed the carolina homoRussia and turks have been assassinating each other for a decade. No war.
This is unironically the funniest shit I’ve read today. thanks op, I needed a good hard laugh and this did it
>>538961384>red-line for Putin.this is it! THIS IS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BAKC./ HOLY SHITTTT
>>538962476that's a lot of text to avoid talking about how retarded trump is in all of this. just totally excuses him
>>538966536No boots on the ground the women cry not my son the mothers always sayWar is men fighting men Technology makes it not so sporting no humanityIt's there to just remove players from the gameThis would be the last humans fighting humans No machine will want to kill a machine lest a human now makes a machine that only has a purpose to kill other machines to strip them of their intelligenceUntil that time, if you like food you should leave your weeping mother and board the train with your buddies and pray you will have means to help her get scrapsThere is very little need for humans nowShould you find a place where you are needed at least for a moment you should
>>538961384You are probably telling truth, but nobody will do shit. Russians are tied by china, and Europeans will continue this. This has been going already for a few months. And americans are more than happy to keep Europe fighting at minimal cost, seeing IF Russia can actually back it's demamds. Russia actually night escalate somewhere AS only option to showoff.
>>538961384yeah but tell ur boys to delay ww3, i haven't played gothic remake yet
>>538961384dont worry nukes are fake/hyped and the money masters control all sides from the shadows so worry about that actually
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>>538962231Ivan, fuck off we dont care and if you have any balls, let's have a war.
>>538962354Fuck off nigger If push comes to shove we'll have a nice defensive war on the Carpathians, through mountain passes that can be cut off in 2 minutes
>>538962420We dont give a shit what Putin or Russia wants. If war is what he wants a war he will get. Fuck russia and fuck the Antichrist!
>>538962427Last time europe was in a war was because Germany and Romania tried to prevent the tragedy of the 20th century, the jewish takeover of the world.
>>538962752Through the Prypiat marshes and Cernobyl exclusion zone?
>>538961384Next you're going to tell me they're not even mining the materials, refining them to manufacture those shells? >>538962231We are still giving Ukraine live satellite feed. We're still roped into this bullshit.
>>538966028>Thats how long they are preparing.
>>538968584You forgot a small detail, these regions only proclaimed independence after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014.Strelkov was in charge of donetsk and donbabwe with direct russian army support and political backing from the Kremlin
Billions must die !!!!!
>>538962420Oh crickey, gloves are really coming off this time, dont they?
>>538966366Payload is magnitude stronger on the Missiles bro
>>538970211HaShem's utter wrath is coming upon you filthy insect wicked goyim especially you American and european goyim with no mercy whatsoever BS"D.
When I was 19 I used to believe those high effort LARPs here. This thread brings back memories. Thanks for the few minutes of entertainment OP.
>>538961384>AMA!ok i'll biteyou laid it out, this is how it is.and ? now what ? does this change anything ? you forgot the part where you tell your audience how to stop armageddon or whatever you imply with your "scenario"so, you, as a "insider", risk getting caught what ?public knowledge ? every monkey who observes this conflict objectively could come to the same hypothetical conclusions you present as "whistlebowing" heresince you fail to address specifics as well as fail to provide any form of advice beyond your vagueposting i would like to conclude with the question, what are people supposed to do about it ? the war is real, the escalation is measurable, everyone knows how this is escalated, now what ? how to fix this ?
>>538961384cringe LARP postNothing, and I mean nothing you said in any of your 23 posts would even slightly hint at you being a "whistleblower", nothing you said goes beyond superficial speculation based on publicly available informationOP, what do you gain from posting this? How does it benefit you?
>>538961384Everyone knows this already, lol. All Russia has to do is stop acting like a rabid pig.
>>538965218At the risk of starting WW3, Russia should still drone these faggots. Totally worth it. Never has there be a group of less inspiring more punchable wankers.
The only thing I want from this war is Stockholm, Göteborg and Malmö nuked.
>>538968131>london (and brussels)>are going to pay for all thisif anything and foremost the civilians will pay with their lives and livelihoods they will chose that the ethnic natives have the obligation to fight for europe (ukraine) and "its talmudic values" so you the worthless, human looking animals ( according to scripture ) are being forced to jump into the meat grinder set up between two sides of the same organized crime / mafia cabal formally known as the ruling elite, also known as the monarchy, notoriously known as the church, used as a front by the trade cartels.and they will use the millions of browns, imported from wartorn shitholes, and recruit them as goons press gang squads to push the disarmed and oversocialised natives into extinction as predicted in the early chapters of dr william luther pierces fiction novel turner diaries. ( since we are believing in made up prophecies written on paper sometime in the past already, why not add some fresh input huh )
>>538961384Europe is sick weak and old. Nobody fears it. Ukraine is going to lose.
>>538976366>what do you gain from posting this?apparently op gained that you read all of their 23 larposts, understood it analysed and question it.
Queef is going to be nuked, Warsaw too and probably most of the Baltics, Nordics and potentially Ankara, Brussels, Den Hague, Berlin and Rome. The EU is really desperate, it needs a war or its circular ponzi around loaning Ukraine funds to buy subsidized military production from the EU collapses and with its economy
>>538961384Okay, and?
>>538976484Yeah. You are a larper. Instead of larping tell us more about the jew moohamhead bin Marx
>>538961384Could be true. Cant buy rheinmetal stocks anymore because the bank says its making ammunition/weapons? that are not in the banks guidelines or something
>>538976532>apparently op gained that you read all of their 23 larposts, understood it analysed and question it.ok and again, how exactly does that benefit OP?Clearly the intent here is not to inform or share "whistleblower" knowledge, since again, all that's been said so far is pure speculation based on public info with nothing lending credibility to the OPs claim of being a "whistleblower. so then what is the purpose of this thread?
>>538961384>internationally prohibitedWaah waah waah
>>538962880anon, i beg you, stop demanding to be nukedi like englanders
>>538963413>There is anm international ban on missile sales that go over the 250 km rangeNo there isn'tIran sold Russia thousands of sneed drones with 1000km+ range anyway
>>538966392Ahahahahahahahahahaha Chyna? Seriously. Your larp is a joke. Go back to Beijing Chang. The chinese blue water forces are a joke
>he will officially declare war on Ukraine.lol is the 3 day special military operation finally over?
OP, now that you have outlined your expectations, I am sure that is how they will go! Stearing the Russian brute is not hard, I give you that bitch has followed your maps and expectations as if they're holy red lines not to escalate... to it's death bed which it has made. Same goes for US.You are eu elitehs entety.Now, when the brutes realize what shit they ate, the poison pill they took it will be so late to save themselves z but to to alte to kill you all while they die themselves.I already know how it ends!
>>538961384>pootin will be angryOh no, and what he will do? Start bombing civilian residences in Ukrainian cities with ballistic rockets and drones? But wait, he already does it. >another brown line will be crossedSo having a gas shortage in a literal gas pump country due to Ukrainian strikes is not something he cares about, having ships droned each day is not something he cares about, but once we will have some rockets then the glows will go off?Come on nigger, that’s not even funny anymore, that’s an embarrassment. I’m not thinking that we’re going to win this war or take back all the territories, but I really doubt that Russia can suddenly improve the quality of its own actions in this war. Everyone has already seen that it’s just a horde of totally incompetent and homosexual asiatic subhumans, which just outnumbers opponent on the battlefield and goes further only because the lives of own people doesn’t possess any value to it. Ukraine is no better, unfortunately, but at least we do not pretend that we’re superpower while stealing toilets from the villages.
>>538961384draft in germany?
>>538976690it seems like "raising awareness" / preparing a audience for the further escalation / deterioration of the conflict"you heard it here first" type of anchoring of informationlook at this thread so many oblivious people replying, judging by the way of their replies, all these normie tourists will be like "ohh yeah thats right i heard it on channel four by the whistler" its preemotive fortification of a narrative. fyi this is not the first time op posted "their thread" also usually a whistleblower doesnt "hang around" they dump their credible info and change their appearance asap because they actually have something to lose which is in the nature of "leaking sensitive information" (which this isnt), make your own conclusions, op is not wrong, at best its to manipulate the opinion of people, at worst its just a larp of "i told you so"
>>538961384>absolute red-line for Putin.Like all the red lines beforehand?The thing is he isnt actually deranged and wont nuke europe and other than that he has no recourse>he will officially declare war on Ukraine.So what happens then? Still no nukes i betcha. And thats about all that matters its already an all out war of attrition which jewkraine is losing btw but both sides are bleedingThe only one winning is AGAIN based and red pilled NatSoc china and North Korea which is winninh big time relative to their previous position.
>>538976898>draft in germany?sicne op is peobably, very likely, not going to answer you...all is in the legislature if the war 'state' is officially declared, they can draft up to "retirement age" this is written to be enacted not for decoration. its in there for decades and has not changed much ever since.then there is the "usual practice" reservists (civilian resources and former military conscripts) getting activated to bolster the ranks and get human resources with set conditioning, etc. then you have the real world example, emptying of prisons with shady deals, basically getting rid of useless eater categories one by one, as seen in both russia and ukraine, down to outright kidnapping / "pressing" of dissidents, "forced conscription" still ongoing in the "european side" (remember those are the good guys).so yeah, do what the ukrainian refugees did when the war broke out after they "failed" for a decade to overthrow their illegitimate usurper government (not that they had a chance, like any other individual civilian without organised aid of foreign influence).the implications of this are that this war was started by clandestine operatives sponsored by the us. american and european actors, another live war started by them on behalf of their interests, against peace in europe, they are the ones that use billions of € and $ to coerce the public into having an opinion other than fuck this shit i want peace, because the rich men behind the scenes dont profit from peace.
>>538977101the thing is, he can nuke europe thats damokles sword, mutually assured destruction is another still.so nukes are the ultima ratio, scorched earh, idgaf what comes after, its the new baseline (the m.a.d) after more than one nation has it, they could only be used by the usa agains tjapan because the usa knew that there was absolutely nothing and noone that could counter them for a brief period of timeall repeated efforts of convincing the enemy to give in failed, the ukrainian side is artificially coerced into continuing the war, the russians have no other alternative than to keep going, the fronts are clear, ukrtaine is a proxy of the eu and usa, so basically this is eu / usa vs russia. it was set up by the eu and usa glowniggers ( who are apparently being decomissioned, McCain gone, Graham gone, USAID and the NED (both heavily involved) "dismantled" thanks to the "savior DOGE/Trump/Musk", so here we have someone getting rid of loose ties. do you see whats going on ? ) this is a inconvenient but long planned act,ukraine was uses to escalate, "provoke" russia into the smo, while providing plausible deniability for all sides involved (except the ukrainians, but they dont matter anyways to the planners, ukraine is just a disposable means to achieve their goal which they have) allegding like by so many d&c shills, that putin is not in on the whole thing is absolutely preoposterous, the only one who is getting fleeced here is the civilians on all sides.its the nwo unfolding another step
>>538962231Europe is much stronger than the russia, it's they who should stay neutral and stay the fuck out of our business. They fucked around and now they're founding out as tens of thousands of those subhumans are coming home from Europe in a trashbag, and we're going to make that number reach hundreds of thousands.
>>538961384Cool. Whatcha gonna do, russian gayboy? All you have to do is to leave Ukraine. Instead you'll get your economy wrecked by long range rockets and Russia can't do shit about it because if they attack EU they will lose right away
>>538961384top kek, what is not known here? The only issue is why Putin should declare wars? Russia should have just striken Europe long time ago. It is a ridiculous situation when Nato uses hohols as a meatshield and everyone is ok with that. The main strategy for Russia to end this is to kill all the hohols. But if Nato will start sending Polacks and so on afterwards then waiting longer and wasting resources on hohols continuing this attrition war does not make sense. An attrition war against Europe with 4 times the population and industry of Russia is futile, in this case there is other scenario to win.
>>538961384Russia cannot exist without warmongering. It is in a perpetual conflict, whether with the NATO, Central Asia or separatists in it's own territory. Russian people have proclaimed National Socialism as it's biggest enemy. They say Baltics are a threat to Russia, They say that their own citizens (who are migrants here), are "unfairly" treated here. I wish there could be an alternative solution, but it seems we, the Europeans are more willing to step down, than Russia. Russians are not only barbaric and sadistic, but also spiteful, masochistic and suicidal. They do not care if they live in filth, as long as they can gloat over their expansive state, which unironically is trying to cancel out fpv drones with it's own citizens like meat dummies. There was no real reason to invade Ukraine, but they did, and they raped and tortured women and children. Sadlly, Russians chose this road of destruction, therefore they need to be utterly destroyed. This will destroy the white part of Europe too, but that's the sacrifice Russia is willing to make.
>>538961384OP's NAFO-faggotry fantasies are something that has been foreseen by all analysts for 2 years now, and all of it was supposed to happen 2 years ago.As per usual, none of it will happen, and OP deserves to be hanged along with the rest of EU-NATO nanny bureaucracy for even comtemplating sending European youth to die for sake of Baltic aboriginal alcoholics reservations.NATO & EU are the enemies European peoples.
>>538961384THE ABSOLUTE RED LINE FOR MONKE
>>538977812You lost.
>>538961384i doubt that you can give us something new my dear, but i will take a look.
Proxy wars. Hmm. Profitable.
>>538977849>They say Baltics are a threat to Russia>Also here's me, an average citizen, calling for their annihilation because they are subhumanI hope the Baltic States, along with jewkraine and Israel, are destroyed this century. Obnoxious narcissistic kike states who expect other goyim to fight for them.
>>538964310you glow, ranjeet
ok when putler invades and declares war, as you claim this is going to be the end of him.then he has to fight all 27 countries with his stupid orc brigades. THIS CAN NOT WORK.this is russian suicide.
he wont suicide. the chinks wont save their ass are you fuking stupid, THEY WILL DO NOTHING.
>>538977596ukraine is losing btw
>>538978051On the other hand, maybe we should join Russia and invade Denmark. You can't handle negroids laughing at you in your own neighbourhood, how do you imagine handling Russians at your border? It's not like Denmark is vastly bigger than Latvia, and if such threat came to you, Denmark would be just as reliant on allies, as the Baltic states now.
>>538961384>the absolute red-line for Putin
>>538978051
>>538978051Yes they deserve annihilation because they provided nothing of value since Soviet union existing. All they did was causing issues, trying to attack someone, trying to sabotage someone instead of living in peace.>But uuuuh le heckin russian interestsTheir interests are only making lives of other people worse. They are not better than nigger rapefugees. Even now they keep on barking how they need more land despite being the biggest and most Ressource rich country in the world. That's why it's obvious that they need to be erased from the map so we have a big empty forest next to our border with some remaining tribal people living inna woods without deranged imperialistic shizoids
>>538961384Medvedev had been threatening war against all of Russia's neighbors for years. Surely this time it's going to be different.
>>538961384In fact Nato uses even Europe as a meatshield. The whole point is Russia will not strike because it will result in a huge disaster with nuked and so on. And that is also the reason Russia endures such a situation to avoid it. Plus it still can kill all hohols and finish, but it the conditions change the strategy will also chance. Russia simply can not lose and the meatshield won‘t help.
>>538962231>JUST LET TYRANTS DO WHAT THEY WANT kys
>>538978814they have been telling it many time though. Just as they have been telling about Donbass for 8 years, no one took it seriously .
>>538978815well you do
>>538962420Holy cope
>>538978815it is unfair when you let one tyrants do what they want and another not. If you can’t forbid to all, the only fair solution is to let all tyrants do what they want.
>>538979002then at least there is a competition
>>538978560>My country is ravaged by niggers and feminists, rape capital of Europe>Actually, destroy LatviaWe won't get far like this.
>>538979027Europe needs war otherwise they will have to face unsolvable problems they have created for themselves. Russia is convenient way for politicians to destruct from that and keep the support numbers.
>>538962139Just looked that word upBro imagine this shit what an undisciplined bunch of sissy faggots they are just as bad as the americans.Shit like this would never fly in a NatSoc army full of Volksgenossen like the Wehrmacht or the chinese army.
>>538979139plus they think russia is not serious about bombing europe and they can keep it going like this. The retards just never learn.
>>538962476>nuke beijing>dont nuke berlinJude
>>538977545Yes even norks have a devastating first strike ability now.Asians are so fucking based.HONORARYONORARY
>>538967032installed SX the other day after seeing your reply with the QR code. Will I end on a list if I scan and join ?
