>b-b-but but my Indian children came into the world in a nearby hospital, and learned a language that exists all around them while I never bothered to teach them my own native language, so therefore I deserve to live your country, right?
>>538983784indians are not people.
All immigration is good so your japanese children migrating to India is good.
being sent back to india seems worse than a death sentence
>>538983784It has nothing to do with what the parent “deserves” and everything to do with how the children deserve to be treated. If the government wanted to do something to stop this they had years upon years to act, now they have to live with the oh-so-awful consequence of being forced to tolerate the existence of somebody who’s skin color is different.
>>538983784Whenever they say how they've spent generations here etc etc it just proves that they also spent generations elsewhere and still decided to leave for a place they have nothing to do with. And since they praise "migration", then they can live up to the standard and migrate to where ever expelled to. They're economic units after all, and economic units need to be moved around the planet to generate profit.
>>538984034There is no time limit on remigration or deportation, nigger. Whether they've been here for a day or a decade, 95% of them are going back to their homelands.My ethnic homeland is not for sale.
>>538984034Indians just don’t fit in. Indians in a White or East Asian country are like an autistic person at a house party. They might be likeable under certain circumstances but once they get they the party, they dance weird, stare, creep people out, commit inappropriate acts, and end up throwing up and shitting all over your living room. Better to just not invite them, or if they are already there to kick them out.
>>538984034>Not seeing IndiansThese people are interesting and have their own unique cultures. I don't know a lot about them but they could be allies for our great nationVs>Living with Indians (or any foreign demographic)These people aren't that great and inconvenience us. The land they live on is full of natural resources and if we wipe them out it won't be a genocide because we have some of them in our nation.It's better for everyone if these poor souls go home. They're unknowingly ambassadors for their homes and they're not acting like it
>>538983784Why do you deport? We are your CEOs and your women love us!!
>>538984034Very sad they need to go back tho
>>538984212And cut the internet cables undersea afterwards.
>>538983784I don't think a country should destroy itself because some brown subhuman cries
>>538984275You cant deport yourself from being bacteria. You need to Die.
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>>538983784Oh no , I brown person is crying !!!I guess we should get rid of all laws and standards. -- WomenWhy do you fear deportation bud ? 30 years and you have not gotten Japanese citizenship ?That is suspicious. Maybe you should be deported.
>>538984469Indians and bangledeshis are always the loudest to be 1st generation and insist they are Italian/English/Swedish/Irish etc just because they were born there and speak the language. It’s almost likely they are ashamed of their home countries. Meanwhile European migrants were never ashamed at being Italian/English/Swedish/Irish because our countries and peoples are actually great.
>>538984212>>538984252As a white American who grew up in a school district where like 33% of the population is Indian, y’all are full of shit. On my experience if anything the kind of parents who go through the effort to bring their children overseas often get *too* worried about this sort of thing and put way too much pressure on their children to perform academically as a result. And don’t even get me started on the “but they’re not assimilating culturally” argument. I don’t really give a fuck either way, but you see Indian families go to stupid lengths just to dispel this notion as well. I knew one Asian family who went so far as to raise all of their children Christian despite the parents themselves not believing anything of the sort solely to integrate their children into the community… what’s even the point?
>>538984034>skin colorBelieve it or not Rajesh, the problem is not the poop-colored skin, diminutive stature, gross facial features, or excessive natural body odor. The problem with Indians is the shithole brain. It's the mental features that cause them to produce India when left to their own devices, and which are immediately repulsive to the civilized races
>>538984034>everything to do with how the children deserve to be treated.it has to do with the law and only citizens have the legal right to be in a country. other people have a revokable privilege. i lived as an expat for many years and while residency bureaucracy was a pain in the dick for a week every year, i was never so arrogant to think i had some special right to be there.
>>538984760Japan is an Old World ethnically homogeneous nation-state. Amercia is a New World ethnically diverse civil identity state. Assimilating to be “Japanese” is not comparable to assimilating to being “Amercian.” To be Japanese means following a thousand different rules and regulations from thousands of years of culture. To be Amercian means speaking English, wearing blue jeans, eating apple pie, and watching sportsball.
>>538984697SOAS is a very culturally dangerous institution. you see it pop up time and time again besides the name of anti-white globohomo culture people
Also like, this is fucking Japan we’re talking about, a country with a stagnant economy and a birthrate of 1.2 children per family. It needs children moreso than any other country besides South Korea, and yet xenophobia causes them to push back in the rare instances somebody does immigrates over who can provide for the country. They’re digging their own pit to sleep in.
>>538984760As a white American who grew up in a 99% white environment we all separated ourselves via subgroups (Jocks, nerds, goths, emos etc etc) to be different. We all strived to be individuals.The third world wants us all to be the same. They're an antithesis to our core culture.
>>538984764My school district is like an even split between Indians/(non-Indian) Asians/Whites and that’s not the case at all, so idk what to say to persuade you otherwise. Indian students in my experience tend to either be really high in honors classes/academics or wholly apathetic, rarely anything in between.
>>538985030The Japanese economy is miles ahead of the Indian one. Also population doesn’t matter. Japan wasn’t less Japanese when it only had 20 million people during the edo period.
>>538985230God I feel so bad for zoomers if your school demographics really looked like that. Millennials mostly had homogeneous White schools either a few “token minorities.”
>>538985255Jews want depopulation but at the same time 13 Billion jeet slaves LOOOL
>>538983784This guy didn't even fuck a JP woman.He fucked a Flip.
>>538985317Man, I literally wouldn’t have it any other way. Heck I thought racism was only a thing in like history books growing up because that was the only place I’d ever encountered it, yet reality has to expose us to places like this. My community has like a bunch of people from different cultures and it’s extremely proud of that, I just wish other communities could hold the same kind of pride in having a diverse heritage.
>>538983784Go back in your beloved shit hole
>>538985255You’re aware of how little a country’s prosperity has to do with the people living there vs. the people controlling it, right? Look no further than North Vs. South Korea. Two countries with ethnically identical populations with the northern being *more* resource rich than the south, yet one is a first world democratic country while the other is a third world authoritarian hellhole. You couldn’t ask for a more perfect case study into what makes some countries rich while others stay poor.
>>538985906North Korea is a utopia. the people pay 0 taxes, everyone is thin and healthy, everything is clean and modern, the women are all beautiful.
>>538985230>Indian students in my experience tend to either be really high in honors classes/academics or wholly apatheticI don't deny that Indians tend to amass academic credentials. They do that in India too (that country is much more focused on education than we are), but nevertheless India is a shithole because that turns out not to be what's important.If you are perceptive and thoughtful, you should be able to look at the Indians around you and see what they are missing. But even if you can't do that, you still have to wrestle with the question of India. Why is that country the way it is and not a nice place like America or Japan? There must be *something* missing in their psychology.
>>538986112Again, look at North vs. South Korea and tell me with a straight face that it’s a country’s racial makeup that determines its economic prosperity. And no I’m not aware of what’s missing in their psychology after living around them for so long, so do tell me how a people could possibly be so capable of excelling academically yet somehow be wholly unable to apply such talent in any kind of valuable way.
>>538983784SAAAARRRR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEEEMHis own fault for not securing himself / his children Japanese passports.
>>538984034>and everything to do with how the children deserve to be treatedI don't care for the offspring of other races. Fuck off kike.
>>538986416Cause Japan doesn't have citizen by birth law. If that lil jeet born in America then there is no way to kick him out
>>538985906Seconding what the other anon said that it's hard to say too much about North Korea. I have no idea what North Korea is like because their government is an enemy of ours, so both governments will lie to their citizens about the other one. (Look at how in wartime, the combatant goverments always tell their citizens opposite stories about the war.)It is true that North Korea is dark at night in satellite pictures, while South Korea is lit up, so there is obviously a properity gap, but that doesn't mean North Korea is a brutal shithole. It might just be poor.On the other hand, we have endless YouTube footage showing what it's like inside India, and endless reports from Indians themselves. Streets and rivers piled high with trash; endemic scamming, cheating, and bribery; a comical caste system; backwards superstitions; an inability to create quality infrastructure of any kind, even with massive outside investment. North Korea is an enigma, but India is the closest thing we have to Hell on Earth.
>>538986449Well thankfully you wouldn’t need to if you were a Japanese person in this context either, since it turns out these kids already have a loving parent who’s willing to raise and assimilate them into the country. If you were Japanese you’d also be aware of the ongoing labor shortage and countless schools closing because of the low birth rate, both things that this “shitskin” family seems awfully convenient in addressing. And the best part is the country hardly has to do anything, just sit back and reorganize their resources towards deporting people with real criminal histories and get cheap labor in return.
>>538986709I get being skeptical of what the government puts out on how well a country’s doing and all that, but as you said this is a country where we can see the extent of their poverty for ourselves *from space*. It also goes to reason they wouldn’t be so adamant about shutting their people off from communication with every other country in the world if they were doing well and had nothing to hide. Has the desire to look down on people who are different from you really rotted our brains to such a point we’re willing to dismiss what we can see with our own eyes?
This proves the magic dirt theory. Learning the local language and customs only works when moving to a first world country.It doesn’t work anymore when going back. Like Indians are CEOs, but can’t do it in their own country.
>>538983784send them back
>>538987148What in the world is that, the idea that a country’s natural resources are what determines whether or not it can succeed? Because that doesn’t explain much either, given South Korea is richer than the North, Russia being poor, and Japan being a first world country despite their only natural resources being fish and earthquakes.
>>538986319Addressed North v South Korea in >>538986709.In terms of what Indians are missing, you really should be able to tell for yourself if you have as much experience with them as you claim, but some are:- Craftsmanship -- they are fast and imprecise- Introspection -- they rarely think about things beyond their day-to-day social group and work, and when they do the answers they reach are silly and wrong- Independence -- they are obsessed to a fault with looking good in the eyes of their family or broader society; the best people among a race should follow deeper principles, but you just don't see this among IndiansI guess a way to summarize this is that Indians can be effective careerists and social climbers, but not effective value creators and innovators. An Indian can run a mature Google, but could never have founded Google. There has never been and never will be an Indian Elon Musk, Geoffrey Hinton, or John Carmack. For this reason they are always net drains on their socieities (and you see the ultimate form of this with India itself).
>>538987148That ignores the fact that when White men move to India ,Asia, MENA etc they become gods and local celebrities. If you think our dirt is magical to you because you become a saarCEO, your own dirt is very magical to us
>>538986548Yeah, but presumably there was some route to him getting passports, given how long he was living there.
>>538984034>they had years upon years to act,They've been trying for decades, but a certain other side of the political spectrum fights it tooth and nail.You don't get to shit on our living room floor and then demand we never clean it up just because it's already there.
>>538986986I have to go, but you've engaged more seriously here than we typically see from classical liberal types, and I don't think you are just baiting. Honestly I think you care about having a consistent worldview and have the ability to become based as you see more of the world and interact with more people. Wouldn't be surprised to see you coming back in 10 years and posting some based stuff. Thanks for the convo and Godspeed fren
>>538987388-CraftsmanshipNot sure where you’d get such an idea from in the first place, but I haven’t seen much proving or disputing that so sure, I guess. It definitely doesn’t add up with the stereotype of Indians doing great in math and numbers-oriented subjects generally though, so that definitely needs explaining -IntrospectionDefinitely not capturing the full picture here either. I made the mistake of rushing into a relationship with an Indian girl a good while ago and while her parents were narrow minded she was like, way too focused on immaterial questions of philosophy/spirituality if anything. You definitely have a lot of older people from Indian cultures stuck in dogmatic and backwards ways of thinking but that goes for all races really, and their children frequently deviate from such beliefs in all kinds of ways.-IndependenceHonestly, yeah. It’s definitely a more collectivist culture and like this isn’t entirely a bad thing, but it’s really harmful when the “broader society” (or for a 1st gen immigrant, their parents) have backwards beliefs. Typically you either see Indian children conforming to their parents beliefs to an extreme or getting so fed up with it they stop listening entirely. A willingness to conform really isn’t a bad trait at all when you’re talking about people coming from radically different cultures, though.Again, I really don’t see how any of this precludes Indians from being valuable workers in a modern society already experiencing a labor shortage. If they aren’t capable of creating or innovating then that’s a self-solving problem, since they’re more than able of doing easier work while the more capable work towards coming up with newer and better technologies.
WYPIPO ARE SPIRALING AND I FUCKIN LOVE IT :DGET FUCKED GOY, YOU DESERVE IT
>>538985030>stagnant economyWho cares>a birthrate of 1.2 children per familyImporting infinity alien foreigners isn't going to create more Japanese children, in fact it will do the oppositeYou don't want Japan to survive at all, actually you are who wants to see it die
>>538986319>Look at country allied with the westVs>country that is sanctioned by most of the world.Cool example.
you and your jeet kids gotta go! go back to canada!
>>538988214Who cares about the economy? Idk, people who want to make money? I’m kind of generalizing all of Japan here but the fact is, the country hasn’t seen very much economic growth at all in the past 15 years, and the labor shortage doesn’t help with that.> Importing infinity alien foreigners isn't going to create more Japanese children, in fact it will do the oppositeBelieve it or not, importing foreign labor does a good amount to help with labor shortages, and bringing more youth into a country with far too few young people to support their elderly helps as well. The country is like 99% Japanese and the people immigrating into the country aren’t competing for jobs the country can’t get people to work in the first place, so the Japanese people aren’t going anywhere either way.
>>538988382You know what other Soviet-aligned country was sanctioned by the rest of the world for the longest time and yet has managed to do decently well for itself as of lately? China. They certainly aren’t the shining communist utopia they claim to be, but their leadership has at least been competent enough to give them a pretty strong economy with a population about equal to that of India’s. Had North Korea had leadership capable of giving up even a *little bit* of their authority in exchange for economic prosperity they could have easily become something like Vietnam (maybe even Singapore with luck) but instead the elites were so obsessed with preserving the old order they ironically found themselves destitute.This is just like people who say Cuba is only poor because it’s sanctioned and it would be some kind of tropical utopia if the U.S. just let it trade freely
>>538988778We all trade with China.We literally arent allowed to trade with NK
>>538988553>people who want to make moneyI understand financial elites absolutely need the line to go up but the ordinary persons life does not get better or worse even if they're mindraped to believe wellbeing = uberjeets starbux and netflix subscriptions. Japan is already a rich country, and in fact still wealthy in ways that can never be obtained by countries like usa and increasingly also by countries in Europe.>importing foreign labor does a good amount to help with labor shortagesAgain, how does that create more Japanese children? You are the one who brought up their birth rate. In this instance I actually agree more Japanese people on Earth would be a good thing. So how does importing alien foreigners in great volumes help with that. From personal experience it makes me desire less to raise native children, since they're going to grow up surrounded by alien foreigners who are usually hostile.
>>538989368I mean if you don’t think economic growth helps to make people happier that’s fair enough, really depends on your financial position. Money can’t buy happiness and all there are more important things than cash, but it definitely helps to some extent, so I’ll move on.> Again, how does that create more Japanese children? You are the one who brought up their birth rate.I brought up the birth rate in an economic context, not social/racial. Having 1 child per family means having 1 child support 2 parents and 4 grandparents, which is just not comfortable at all for young people looking for the freedom to live their lives and do whatever. Having more young people to contribute to the country’s social welfare and general economy is a material boon, especially when you have an excess of schools for said young people and parents willing to raise and assimilate them.>From personal experience it makes me desire less to raise native children, since they're going to grow up surrounded by alien foreigners who are usually hostile.This perception of immigrants makes honestly makes me just sad, because while the animosity is definitely real to an extent, growing up in a community where we’re all a mix of White/Asian/Indian/other and proud of that means I know it really doesn’t have to be that way. We really need to make more of an effort to be proud of our heritages and what they bring to our community rather than trying to avoid it because having more cultures really does improve the character of a community, and comes with all the economic/social benefits associated with having people from all walks of life as well.
I mean it’s ultimately Japan’s choice whether or not they want to welcome immigration, but it’s not going to destroy their country/culture/wellbeing and could do a lot of the average person’s economic standing. With that in mind, it’s especially cruel to deport children who are already culturally assimilated into the country and pose no threat cause they’re not Japanese.
>>538990091>if you don’t think economic growth helps to make people happier that’s fair enough, really depends on your financial positionOrdinary people do not get the benefit of "economic growth". Mass immigration is actually just one of the detriments they suffer from it, to keep facilitating "economic growth". The benefits go to someone else and do not trickle down.>Having 1 child per family means having 1 child support 2 parents and 4 grandparents, which is just not comfortable at all for young people looking for the freedom to live their lives and do whatever.I absolutely agree boomers should've thought a little bit more about having children, and about the future in general when they were living it up and selling out the countries they inherited. Oh well!>having more cultures really does improve the character of a communityThat's only true so long as the community is made up of cultures that are compatible towards each other and do not bring their foreign grievances into it.An easy example of this are Muslims, who aren't really compatible with any other culture due to their intolerant and bellicose belief system. Or Eritreans who are severely split between pro- and anti-dictatorship diaspora and carry out this conflict even as guests in another country.
>>538983784That does not make them Japanese
>>538986319South Korea will cease to exist in 50 years due to abysmal birth rates, and North Korea will simply walk across the DMV and reconsider it. I know you’re brown since you can’t think on longer time frames or leave the matrix of economics. It is not about being rich it is about survival
>>538984034No. All shitskins must be expelled from human countries or executed.
>>538990144>’s ultimately Japan’s choice whether or not they want to welcome immigrationI wish it was a choice left to the people, but we can see this choice being made far over the peoples heads all over the world instead.>it's not going to destroy their country/culture/wellbeing What makes you say so after mass immigration of alien foreigners has demonstrably detracted from the wellbeing of Western Europeans? By the way, how are their economies doing after importing millions of alien foreigners?>children who are already culturally assimilated Allegedly
>>538990144They pose a threat by not being Japanese.
>>538984034>how the children deserve to be treated.Well then India can figure out how they "deserve to be treated".
>>538990144>it’s especially cruel to deport childrenWhay's cruel about india?
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>>538984697usually someone who lives here this long would get citizenship or permanent residency, the wait for both is a lot lower than 30 yearsWhy didn't they qualify in the first place? I don't want people deported over a paperwork issue but if there was a good reason they were ineligible...
>>538984034Nope, they’re getting deporting and you can eat a bag of jeet shit
>my children only speal japaneseIve heard the indian kids who "only speak english" talk. They sound exactly like a New Delhi native and speak in hindi as muh as possible.
>>538992680>North Korea will simply walk across the DMV and reconsider it.How is that deferent than India walking across the ocean into south Korea?
>>538984760>33% Nice LARP, tldr?
>>538993757>but if there was a good reason they were ineligible.I have a feeling he was jumping back and forth from India. Probably for tax reasons. He may have been caught in some kind of debt scheme. These not a whole lot of good reasons why economic migrants immigrate to begin with. Immigration propaganda is a scam and a lie, and now people are waking up to it. The word thug in the english language comes from the Indian continent and thats what these people are... Thugs.
