Previous: >>538977949Day 1,603 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Trump told Fox News: I think russia is ready to reach an agreement with Ukraine soon (two more weeks frfr no cap ong)>+20 ships struck in the sea of azov. 136 total>Strikes on Afipskiy, Gelendzhik and Salavat reFINEry.>Ukraine conducted the first robot amphibious landing operation in history by landing a single UGV on the Kinburn peninsula>Stanislav Luchanov (former brigade commander) and nine other soldiers of the 155th brigade have been arrested in murder probe - Zelenskyy>Strikes on Krasnodar Krai oil facilities and Moscow/Moscow Oblast>Oil depot was attacked in Mikhaylovsk, Stavropol Krai>Ukrainian Forces Strike Syzran Oil Refinery, 10 Tankers and 4 Ferries>VTB introduced restrictions on cash withdrawals in Crimea>Despite not being repaired, the moscow oil refinery has been hit again>russia's gas shortage is now acknowledged by TASS>Peskov begs the U.S to ask Ukraine to stop bombing its oil & gas infrastructure.>india asks Ukraine not to bomb its humanitarian aid to russia>Prominent Z-tard Thirteenth bottled.>Sniffings in Moscow continue. New strike.>China strongly rebukes Russia and forbids it from using Nuclear weapons in its war of aggression.>Sweden authorizes use of its Meteor Missile in Russian Territory>Ukraine is ready to cooperate with Mitsubishi on the production of Patriot missiles - Zelenskyy>Another wave of drones strikes at russian vessels in Azov Sea>fire point will test its ballistic missiles on russia this fall▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateENodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: https://files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip▶russian confirmed KIA updated daily: https://hochuvernut.com/
>>538985057TOTAL ZIGGER DEATHBOTTOM TEXT
hellooo? puttin?? BUILD MORE REFINERIES MONKI I NEED TO SEE THEM BLOW UP!
>>538985067Did this retard kill anybody, btw?
>>538985052here in Hungary we can't squeeze the bottles otherwise we lose the deposit fee (50 HUF (~0,15 EUR)/bottle)yes, it is retarded, i know>>538985150no clue senpai
TOTALZiggerDEATH>>538985150He destroyed a Kamaz
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>538985067Too long wont read heres some coomer bait
Was cleaning out and backing up some old folders and stumbled upon this gem that has aged like hot rancid shit in the sun, thought you cunts might appreciate it kek
>>538985150>Did this retard kill anybody, btw?Just their Kamaz truck
>>538985150Doesn't seem like that in the original video. But he damaged some guy's truck lol.
>>538985253they do be like that
>>538985276Nice, a kamaz truck is more valuable than 1000 zigger lives.
>>538985057> +20 ships struck in the sea of azov. 136 totalLooks a little bit suspicious.
Small reminder of how all of this started
>>538985343why? i think there is video evidence of all those hits in one of the earlier threads
>>538985343What do you mean, my churka-enriched friend?
turn every russnigger into minced meat
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATHNUKE MOSQUEWEXTERMINATE ALL RUSNIGGERS
>>538985343It's all documented afaik
>>538985383based moderate
>>538985270Never heard of this retard, but has he since deleted his twitter in shame?
>>538985067>>538985150>>538985287How much of a brooming is waiting for Roma?
>>538984509I waited for this.just we now need a little stabbeding and my bingo list is complete. I already saw a guy run around with a machete but he just scared people off
>>538985270I liked that guy up until very recently when he sperged out on twitter and verbally abused me for like 3 tweets straight because i just slightly and very politely disagreed with him on something
>>538985287that other zigger was literally 10ms away from certain death lmao
>>538985343It is actually incorrect. This 20 were hit in the black sea. They ran out of ships to hit in the Azov. Does this assuage your concerns?
>>538985172>it is retarded, i knowit's only because supermarkets usually have those automats to return the bottles to.Works better than in italy for example, where a lot of those one-use bottles end on the roadside, when not used to get refilled with wine on the market.
>>538985270Now this is some vintage cope. Only spambots even try to go for "pozzia isn't trying to kill civilians" these days.
>>538985343want me to post all the webms?
>>538985321Roma didn't need that fancy kamaz. Look he has a child
>>538985057There is literally no proof that Russia is lacking oil or fuel. The war is still going the same as before
>>538985364Small reminder that your skin looks like poop.
uhuh melty incoming
>>538985287>But he damaged some guy's truck lol.he damage the truck on which that monstrosity was place on. The driver's cabin of that Kamaz (maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KamAZ-43114) was turned into a cheese grater
AXAXAXAXAXAXATOTALBONDDEATH
>>538985611I agree. It is terrible that we have to send our money.Which Is why I want TZD so we don't have to.
>>538985343Struck, not sunk. Perfectly plausible.
>>538985585wait a minute... are you the reborn coconigger???
>fuel crisis will push inflation over 25%>cut rates5d chess
>>538985630>the truck on which that monstrosity was placed on. The driver's cabin of that KamazFor some dumb reason it didn't occur to me that this is the truck they are speaking of. That makes it even funnier lol.
>>538985802
Come here and place your adorable puccian butt on the warm lap of some Hannes. Why stay?
is it true that you all have discord full of dead ziggers? why wasn't I invited? feeling left out
Why does noone fear or respect gulaghomo anymore?
>>538985853Paying with pussy is going to become more and more common in russia in the upcoming months.
>>538985380>>538985381>>538985488>>538985554>>538985768Not the fact of hits. Sending ships over and over again. Do we know survivability rate?
>>538985845mommy nabiulina is firmly against it
>>538985845He's such a genius lol
>>538985364Is this the best ziggers can come up with lol? No wonder you always steal our memes
>>538985964>Sending ships over and over againThese recent 20 weren't in the Azov Sea, but in the Black Sea.
>>538985594that cartoon is how russia is right know getting its refineries and boats blowing up
>>538985964>Sending ships over and over againthat is how glorious russia operates but you know that better than i do
>538985364>be ziggers>realize living in russia is shit>move to neighboring country, enjoy the good life>refuse to integrate, start causing issues for natice population>native government starts kicking you out or forcing you to integrate>cry russophobia to momma bear pypa, he commands the fsb to put out disinformation claiming that your land was always part of russia and only gave it away as a gesture of good will)))>attempt to secede with your totally organic homegrown over night rebel fighters and modern tanks you miraculously found in a suspiciously convenient warehouse>get btfo>cry russophobia to momma bear pypa again, he sends the military to stop the russophobia>host nation can't stand up to the mighty bear))))), is forced to cede land for an autonomous zone that ends up just being a russian oblast with a puppet government in everything but nameruslims are the worst parts of chinks, jews, and niggers, rolled int one mogoloid package.
>>538985974>Nabulishka explaining economy 101 to ruscattleHow hard are they kvetching about that?
>>538985964>Sending ships over and over again.Nothing strange about this russians sending their own into killzones is based and trad>Do we know survivability rate?Most of them are "mission kill" since the bridge is the part that's mostly targeted and they either have to be towed or parts sent to them to get them movingFor now most are drifting in the sea
Credit is still subdued despite rate cuts. The central bank's rate is either the same or lower at all points this year than it was in 2024 and lending has still been far lower for every month in 2026 vs 2024.>>538985845The central bank has put up pretty strong non-rate barriers to lending and banks prima facie are complying, at least wrt civilian sectors.
>>538985964This is how grandfathers took Berlin.
>>538986197yebaaaaaat
>>538985287Despite the obvious design flaw, I will always applaud initiatives that make the world a funny Mad Max place.BUT, what was the purpose in the first place ? It's a close-quarters combat system, you have to see the enemy rather up close, like 200m, to engage them. Surely they didn't think they were going into combat on a battlefield where ALL vehicles are systematically droned within minutes ?My guess is that it was not made to fight Ukies.
>>538985845Special economic operation
>>538986269imagine if they manage to set one of those huge black sea tankers on fire
>>538985845Why won't pypa just ban inflation, recession and poverty?
what is Porkbans plan
vgh.... the power of bulgarian manufacturing.... the prvssia of the balkans....hopefully the current government doesnt fuck it up by refusing to sell to ukraine
>>538986375>lobbying in Brusselskek good luck with that>what is Porkbans plancrashing this plane with no survivors
I was wondering why pidors have been hitting Odesa so much lately. Now I get it.https://bukvy.org/blyzko-500-rozhevyh-flamingo-povernulysya-do-tuzlivskyh-lymaniv-dlya-gnizduvannya/
>>538986340>imagine if they manage to set one of those huge black sea tankers on fireA gas tank on a Russian gas carrier explodes in the Black Sea after being hit by a Ukrainian drone.PIZDANUTSIYAAAAAA
>>538986358make the police start fining shops if the prices are too high.
>>538986420i think these are still the smaller tankers though, on their way to a larger black sea one to transfer it
>>538986420aaaaafigyeeeeeeeeeeet...
>>538985845>>538985802source?
>>538985287holy hell is this real?
If the Zionist occupied government of the Ukraine doesn't stop bombing Russian refineries, then you do realize that Putin will have no other choice but to invade Ukraine?How will you cope????
I am a neutral observer, I am just asking questions. With all my tax rubles going to The Ukraine, why do those stupid hohols target oil refineries and ships with drones when this is supposed to be a land war? Why is suddenly everyone silent on them attacking civilian infrastructure? And also, what about America?
>>538986523haha yep. they attached a helicopter gun to a stand on top of a truck, because they needed improvised AA for ukraine drones. i thought it was AI at first but turns out it is real
>>538986523It's real. They struggled hard to pretend it's AI but it's just what it is.
>>538986523https://files.catbox.moe/1vckmh.mp4
>>538986565Hey may also NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
>>538986197>>538986269Wait, I've thought the ships transported fuel and oil from abroad.>>538986233>>538986259>>538986267Ships are harder to replace.
>>538986587My God that's hilarious
>>538986621>>538986592Why do russophobes always turn out to be flaming degenerates?
>>538986461Did not tickle the pickle, eh. Hopefully something bigger will appear soon
>>538985287>"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
>>538986712imagine losing a war to flaming degenerates lol
>>538985964I just wrote this in chug for mocking purposes but it's correct. . Excuse the tone if you're not a chugger. It's 136 damaged. Some more than others.I'm sure Russia has the shipyards, workers, parts and tools needed to fix one a month?See you in 11 years.Or you can buy new ones,?The cheapest old shitty ones start at $3m.That's $408m minimum.Of course, there will be another 20 or so tomorrow, and the next day, and the next....Not to mention, those ships were special. (Did you ever work it out?)They are 7000ton shallow draft ships that can enter the canals and rivers....They are CRUCIAL to moving goods from the russian interior to the black sea for transfer to bigger ships.And now you don't have any. Logistics just took a MAJOR pasting.
>Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is expected to remove defence minister Mykhailo Fedorov - FTIT'S OVER
>>538986712>russophobesYou don't have a phobia of feces. You just avoid it because it's harmful to health. >>538986953I really need to search the open sources why. He seems to deliver, what's the reason for the reshuffle?
Magyar's riddle solving: Following numerous questions about the name of Operation “MoLoChKa”:MLChK = Moskva Liazhe Cherez Krym(Moscow Will Fall Through Crimea.)Amen. Black and white.USF online scoreboard “PIDRAKHUYKA”https://sbs-group.armyMAGYAR
>>538986953do we know why? regular shake-up or something more serious?
>>538986985I heard he is not getting along with Sirskiy
>>538985962>they came to be known as the petro prostitutki
>>538986953i see Zelensky is going to way of Franco
>>538985364You have problems with understanding cause and consequence because you are brown.
>>538986908Oh, and, they first have to catch all these drifting zombie boats, which will be difficult because Ukraine WILL be hitting the tugs that get sent out. Right big old cluster fuck really.
>>538986908That's why it looks suspicious. A very desperate move? Or just as planned?
>>538987007Ze going full dictator mode to stay in power. Fedorov wants to remove corruption and obv Ze doesn't like that idea
>>538987064forgot image
BREAKING: Zelensky formally asks EU states to send back draft-eligible Ukrainian citizens >BREAKING: Zelensky formally asks EU states to send back draft-eligible Ukrainian citizensBREAKING: Zelensky formally asks EU states to send back draft-eligible Ukrainian citizens>BREAKING: Zelensky formally asks EU states to send back draft-eligible Ukrainian citizens
Pottery
>>538986712This is how we roll nigga
>>538987007the way I see it>fedorov starts going after corruption in ammo procurement>zeleboba acts immediately to shut it downtwo steps forward, three steps back
>>538987116
>>538987113notably he did not ask for gasoline like Putin did India and Kazakhstan
>>538987116>157cm
>>538986420mhmm roasted zeamen))))))
>>538986953Checked the sources, all comes down to "anonymous sources". So it's about the PM reshuffle and the Ministry of Education for certain. Apparently, everyone actually does wonder why there are rumors of Fedorov getting reassigned to begin with, despite the Sirsky thing.
>>538987113Nope. t. Eastern Ukrainian
>>538986712Im not a russophobe, im a russorealist and a moderate at that.
>>538986953ZOVer?
>>538987074Franco was never a democrat and never won any elections, he wanted Spain to return into being a monarchy so not sure where is the analogy to Ukraine
>>538986985Federov is too young for the old guard to respect him. Then he cancelled a load of iffy MIC contracts annoying come big money and some generals with fingers in the pie. Apparently he and syrsky don't have a great working relationship. There's a lot of pressure from a lot of big money and entrenched top brass. He also spoke publicly about corruption and dodgy deals which didn't help. It's a shame. He IS young for the role but he looked the right man for the job to me.
>>538987230Fedorov's fate is still undecided. Would be a very bad sign if he went, though.
>>538986508I don't think monke has said anything about interest rates this month. Some of his allies have and they've met with him this month. So probably a good inference that the big boss agrees.
>>538987007because zeleboba is a corrupt fucking retard listening to old soviet fucks like syrskyfedorov was completely based and he is personally responsible for more and more effective TZD and tried to curtail the corruption of said old soviet fucks
>>538986269Now that hohols have started unlimited drone warfare will Mali (or some other thirdie shithole) face its own Lusitania incident and come to Russia's aid?
>>538986681they were transporting russian refined oil to crimea
>>538987259today spain exists as a rebellion to franco zelensky is going to end up worse than churchill i predict he's goingt o be like franco
>>538987294Yeah, like, zero indicators. Maybe some sort of under the carpet kind of play? Leak to the press from interested parties.
>>538986426That'd be a very russian thing to do.
>>538987230If I'd go with reading in into things, I would assume this premature leak done by Fedorov himself as to protect his position and be kept in the new government. Basically leak about potentially getting removed, get people's reactions to this as a bad thing, and thus avoid getting replaced.
>>538987168Sounds grim, I hope he won’t end up being fired
final product of "seize the memes"
>the sticker is still on the pitchforkwhat a disgusting fucking city slicker larper
>but I produce thrust for my tailboom from there
>>538987333Yeah again your analogy doesn’t make sense
>>538987394why do you think zaluzhny was exiled to London?wanting Ukraine not to be corrupt is like wishing for Santa to be real
>>538987230Find out tomorrow. 8/10 time reshuffles, it’s usually about consolidating power. So either Fedorov is doing something negative towards Zelensky that looks unlikely, or he’s blocking revenue stream for Zelensky or people in circle and Fedorov has been working to fix corruption in DoD
Be honest for a second though, thirdies, if not with me then yourselves. You know Russians are dogshit. You would piss on them just as hard as we do if you weren't so obsessed with your anti Western straw grasping.
>>538987230>>538987386Read somewhere a day or two ago that Fedorov will be targeted with a misinformation campaign after he cut some state conctracts to corrupt companies.
>>538987497>Fedorov wanted syrski out>syrski has kompromat on zelenskythis every time
>>538987306Anon Mali is getting rekt by the JNIM and FLA right now. They still control the centers of powers but effectively only retain 1/3 of their own country. They won't help russia and need saving urgently
>>538987492Because he was seen as a rival to Zelenskyy, the fact that zaluzhny got such important position proves zele can be pragmatic
test
>the orctane orctagon
>>538985270Technically he is correct here.
test 2
Aggression against Iran is a catastrophic failure only because Russia broke spine of jew aggressors.
>>538987093Honestly? I think they just didn't think it through. The fuel crisis will be everything in the halls of power and this was just something someone signed off on without thinking of the consequences. (Imo)What IS indefensible militarily is that it's ongoing for almost two weeks and there hasn't been a single naval vessel, air force plane or helicopter or even a pantsir module to defend them. I don't even see machine gun or small arms. Apparently there were two machine guns on two boats the first day. Obviously, they are the first taken out. It's incredible.
>>538987093It is a desperate move but most of those vessles at least in the azov sea were not open sea worthy anymore and no one is going to invest in fixing them so much use In them if they can't resupply Crimea so no point in not sending them even in a desperate wave to Crimea Those in the black sea though well let's say it's bad
>>538987533it's obvious they'll all switch to throating china once the russia is done and relegated to the designated shitting streets of history.they will forget it ever existed and memoryhole their devoted shilling for pypa as if it never happened
>>538985853>that webmThey are clearly stopping or hindering traffic. But i agree that police should say it is a hard time and should solve this in a different way. Guess the state needs money and those fines pay their salaries.
world influence ctatyc??
>>538987116Kek
>>538986953this is not good. homo sovieticus fights back.
>>538986270>what was the purpose in the first place AA for the refineries and other high value targets within drone range, most likely.
>Arms procurement and military strategy were areas of disagreement, the people said. Syrsky is well-liked by Zelenskyy despite the general’s poor reputation among some of Ukraine’s ground troops, who have criticised decisions they say have cost lives and earned him the nickname “butcher”. Ukraine’s General Staff said “the absence of a conflict” between the two men had “already been reported personally”, pointing to interviews each man did in June with a Ukrainian news channel.>Since taking up the defence role in January, Fedorov has been credited with overhauling the notoriously complex ministry. He has introduced new digital systems and launched the “Army of Drones” initiative to expand drone production.>Last month, Fedorov put into effect a major reform package to tackle Ukraine’s worsening manpower shortage by sharply increasing pay for front-line troops, introducing fixed-term contracts and offering some of the longest-serving soldiers a path to demobilisation.zelensky is preparing his politician bunker when Ukrainians are going to freeze again because they did fuck all about the power grid
>>538987093The crimean supply situation increased exposure and ukrainain destruction of naval and air defense assets made the perfect storm, basically.
>>538987626Yes, because every decicive victory has to have a decicive loser.This is some real Pyrrhus shit going here.
>>538987386>>538987568Majority of signal is via Ukrainska Pravda, which is Tomas Fiala and Holos. There's a guy in Holos, who sells EWhttps://www.stopcor.org/ukr/section-suspilstvo/news-cholovik-deputatki-lesi-vasilenko-zaroblyae-na-vijskovih-tehnologiyah-media-08-04-2025.html#:~:text=%D0%A7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%BA%20%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D0%9B%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%96%20%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%20%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%94%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%85,%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BA%20%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%20%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D1%96%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%208.04.2025%2011%3A40.https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/15731250Not stating anything but hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>538985430do these types ever admit they're wrong?
>>538987856Correction, there's a guy, whose WIFE is in Holos, majority owner of UP is a financial backer of Holos.
>>538985270i member, though this is the only instance i've ever heard of this guy.the oblivion character editor ass face and hair is just too goofy.he must've deleted all his shit and hidden in shame throughout the last couple years.
>>538987741>there hasn't been a single naval vessel, air force plane or helicopter or even a pantsir module to defend them.Apparently they've already done all that, but the Russians MoD don't report it openly as not to show their domestic audience theres an issue with it the defense.
>>538987113Not enough Colombians?Source please?
>>538985382Sag hex
>>538987113>EU ambassadors formally agreed on July 15 to renew the temporary protection status for Ukrainian refugees for another year
>>538987876>The gloves are off>Fucking boxing glovesOf course ziggers wouldn't understand the meaning of a proverb that has its origin in gentlemanly conduct.
>>538987782based chainsaw man shitting on russia.but hey, russia can now instead focus on easily and quickly establish domestic operations right?
Oooh, this is interesting. Maksym Sheremet is involved in the EW company...he's the COO of Epicentr. Hereha family...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halyna_Herehahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_HerehaFormer Yanukovich party, of course.
Five years into the "special military operation", and in Dzhankoi, mobile service is now being rationed by schedule. Everything’s going exactly according to plan.
>>538986953>Zelensky will save Russia
>>538987889Sorry I don’t follow internal Ukrainian politics, does that mean it’s some power struggle between oligarchs?
Russian economist Vyacheslav Shiryaev’s warning has officially come true: "Finita la commedia for Russia. Once Salavat is hit, it's over." Videos circulating on social media show thick black smoke rising over the massive Salavat refinery in Bashkortostan after a series of explosions.Why this is a strategic game-changer:Salavat was Russia's last major, undamaged refinery supplying critical regions.With this giant knocked out, Russia's fuel logistics are in ruins.Ukraine can now systematically finish off previously damaged refineries.1,500 km from the frontlines, Russia’s economic backbone is burning. Shiryaev was right: the comedy is over.
>>538988129>>538987168>>538987076>>538986417>>538986197Thanks ukraine. ------> >>538987818Very helpful.
>>538986953>He has been made offense minister
>>538988223>He has been made offense minister
>>538988194I'm just trying to pull strings but that doesn't mean that I'm uncovering something real here. Was curious about the interests behind Ukrainska Pravda, which is where the reporting about Fedorov (current MoD) is currently being sourced from. "Anonymous sources" usually indicates a targeted leak. And if it's not just apophenia, then there might be a connection between this, although it's quite tangential.
>>538988132Russians should be learning about now that this "special military operation" isn't Putin's private war that he wages with his friend's money, its also THEIR war that THEY are paying for, with their own money and comfort. Maybe they can develop an opinion about it.
>>538988132Man, this sort of thing is going to come to Russia proper, soon. This is going to be bad.
fell for it again award
>>538988332>badDon't you mean great?
The Kremlin is turning fuel shortages into lifestyle propaganda: bloggers preaching the joys of walking, reading in endless queues, and "we survived the 90s, we'll survive this." Peak irony, since their own machine spent decades selling Putin as the antidote to those exact 90s. Back then, at least, they didn't have these gasoline lines.
>>538988237If you trannies began explaining yourselves today, you might finish sometime in the year 2080.You all have so much to answer for.
>>538988303They don't care when they had no money before the war kek.
>>538988417imagine reading bright takes like this as some Magometov with a work commute through 50km of steppe
>>538988513they have money now, and nothing to spend it onpeople over 50 shold have alarm bells rining in their heads
>>538985462insane reaction time
>>538988542>with a work commute through 50km of steppe>50kmMy local Mcdonald's further away than that.A fish in a pond has no concept of the sea.
>>538988195Was this really not hit before?
>>538988669Not this year
>>538988417relaxing in his car in the gas queue, then gets fined for being part of an illegal motor rally.
pi[Z]daaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>538988667Russia doesn't have maccas.
>>538987782>when your whole PR is based upon being a brutal violent gang rapist and you get publicly manhandled by your small peaceful neighbourmany such a case