SPOKANE, Wash. — City officials responded on Tuesday after questions grew over an inflammatory sign displayed outside "2nd Base Espresso" in the Hillyard neighborhood.The sign drew criticism from several community members on social media, with some people claiming that the coffee stand has displayed problematic signage in the past.NonStop Local reached out to Spokane City Council member Sarah Dixit as well as the mayor’s office with questions about the issue. Dixit stated that her staff referred the sign to law enforcement to check whether it violated any public decency laws.The mayor’s office referred to a statement from Erin Hut, the city’s director of communications and marketing.“While we do not condone this type of messaging, it is our understanding that it's protected under the First Amendment,” Hut said. “Anyone who believes they’ve been subjected to a hate crime or bias incident is encouraged to call the Washington Hate Crimes and Bias Incidents Hot Line.”In addition to city leaders, NonStop Local also contacted legal professionals at Gonzaga to ask about the First Amendment and how hate speech is determined under the Constitution.https://www.khq.com/news/hillyard-coffee-stand-sign-draws-criticism-and-first-amendment-questions-in-spokane/article_c7cc8caa-7d49-48a4-b3c9-c3401e4ffbaa.html
>>538988493This is an Imposition, Not free speech. Science agrees that transsexualism is natural, like homosexuality, and we would do best to validate these members of society who feel this way. You're the people in history they warned us about, who seek triumph over truth and freedom only from facts
This would have been edgy 10-15 years ago.
So how's the coffee?
"inflammatory speech" and it's just reality
>>538988624troons with dementia forget why they mutilated themselves lol, science says you have a male brain and will never be a woman
>>538988742It's actually tea but it prefers to be called coffee.
>>538988493Edgy! Hold my beerN
>>538988493It probably said trans women are women but then a tranny took out the WO because it was attention starved
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>>538988493sounds like a white roach problem lol
>>538988493I think the low IQ version of this argument has done nothing but garner sympathy for trannies and faggots.I'm the only person I've ever seen make the argument that tranny claims are impossible because to claim that one "feels like they are a woman" one must have some conception of what "womanhood" feels like in the first place and even on the most fundamental level this is impossible. Women have a unique neuroreceptor manifold heavily biased towards oxytocin, vs male's vasopressin receptor manifold.The "qualia" of experience, or "what It feels like to feel like" relies on these biomechanical processes.A man has no idea what a post-coital rush of oxytocin feels like. Not even remotely. A man has no idea what female biased neurotransmitter profiles feel like socially, personally, or sexually. It is an impossible claim to make.Instead of this argument, retards keep talking about chromosomes, or simply "you will never be a woman"Which is true. But it lacks actual scientific weight and because of this it gives the trannies and faggots a rung of the ladder to stand on. "The right is overly emotional about these things, their arguments are not scientific."Screeching about religion or morality has no meaning to these people and will never change or even challenge their narrative.Stop being low IQ.
>>538988624>Science agrees that transsexualism is natural,EhheheheeHehehahahahhahoooHehhaiiahhaoahhahahhahaHAHAOHAHAEHEHEAHHAHAHHOOOOOHHHAAAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAAAfuck, thats some good shit, man
>>538989355Birth defects are part of the natural process. Stop being a low IQ reactionary. A thing can be natural and not beneficial. It's natural that people are born without hands or feet. Harlequin Ichtheosis is "natural", down syndrome is "natural"And it's true that an incredibly small subset of the population fails to experience a complete androgenesis in utero and they do come out naturally half-masculinized. That's a true statement.Reacting the way you're reacting doesn't make the anti-tranny argument more legitimate, it just makes us all look like we're retarded. For the "HSTS" transsexual, this is the result of a naturally occurring, completely random error of development in utero. It's a birth defect.What you're doing here is falling for jewish pilpul. You're imagining the 40 year old fat, balding man skipping around in a tutu. And you'd be correct. But when you react this way, the jews behind this phenomenon point at the HSTS with several defective regions in their brains and call us all ignorant retards.
>>538988493Okay but how does that end usury and Zionist money in politics?
>>538989210No it doesn. Youre wrongYou are trying to reason with boomers in dresses with pounds of cosmetics plastered onto their faces to look pretty.They are telling you they are womenThey say their cocks are feminineThey'll say whatever they want to you. And when you come back with your nerdy bullshit, they're going to just call you a nazi, tell you that, no in fact, *you* dont know biologyAnd buy a microskirt and sting bikini top because that's what normal real women wear.And they see nothing wrong with it because they are insaneYou are arguing with insane people.The correct answer isnt giving them the new goalpost to verbally claim to overcome (like every other woman function they've taken over. Like with their butt babies and simulated periods). Its to shut them down and tell them theyre fucking crazyYou're just as wrong as the doctors chopping off dicks and tits because youre taking their insanity seriously.Chuds are right. And society should listen.
>>538989611>muh birf defecks are natural trannies! youre not allowed laugh at insane claims because i think dat maek u dumKys faggot kek
https://youtu.be/jbygQq93ULM?t=55
>>538989210The 45% suicide (attempt) rate meme only served to justify the qualification of tranny services and procedures as "life-saving." It's a funny meme, but it makes you a useful idiot of big pharma.
>>538989774Which part of what I said makes you think I am in favor of trannies, or in favor of the medical field being forced to provide them with the "treatment" they're demanding? I am not. I am only saying that the reductive argument against them has done nothing to advance the position that trannies are wrong.
>>538988493Wish cuckservative were half as bold with browns as they were with trans people
>>538989709You're allowed to laugh at whatever you want, but when you're trying to advance a position and you're acting like a nigger about it then you give the enemy all the ammunition they need to disregard you.
>>538989877>muh pissition advanceFuck off with your high horse soap box bullshitYoure retarded for thinking there is an argument There is no argumentNo one's mind is being changed. No matter how clever you think you are youre not going to convince someone with autogynaphilia that the doctor is wrong and he cant have a real actual pussy.You're double retarded, mate, and you watch way too much tv
>>538989877I'm adding to your post, not disagreeing with it. Specifically the part about how low IQ jests may have helped trannies. To be honest I didn't read the rest.
>>538989060rent free lmao
>>538989611the amount of 'trans' whom are defective at birth are vanishingly smallcalling them 'trans' even is retarded. we had a word for itHermaphrodite. And they occur in a few variety of waysMeanwhile gender dysphoria is literally just reinforced delusions. If you don't feed into the cognito hazard while they are young it simply goes away.https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02817-5
>>538989611>trannies are defectiveYou're starting to figure it out
>>538990022There is an argument. If even 10% of the nigger tier IQ "ywnbaw" posters started talking about the ontological impossibility of the claim then the position would advance. A person has no access to what "it feels like" to be another person. A man has no access to the interiority of a woman. Has no idea what it feels like to be oxytocin dominant. Has no idea what it feels like to socially develop around people whose behavior is modulated by specific neurotransmitters and hormones. This makes the claim that "I intuitively believe I am a woman" impossible. The reason why the trannies have gotten away with this for so long is because they make the claim that you can't understand how they feel on "the inside" and therefore can never prove them wrong.I'm telling you how you can do exactly that. If you want to keep being a low IQ faggot, then do that. You're the reason why this phenomenon is not going away.
>>538988624do you validate schizos with their delusions too?
>>538990178>starting toNigger I'm the only one who has it figured out.
>>538989611You ARE being an ignorant retard. Trannies are mental, and, while my actual approach is more nuanced, should either be medicated, or shot. Engaging with pilpul does not make you more intelligent, it makes you naïve, that reasonableness could change the mind of an insane man, or worse, a kike.The only response to such reasonable, and rational arguments, is to say "good point, now face the wall"
>>538988493Trannies should just fuck off and get it over with. The pendulum is swinging.
>>538990191The position will not advance because the people pushing back are irrational and adversarial. They are not sincerely attempting to find the truth. They want to act out their sexual fetish in lu oic they want to exploit children, they want to bully society into their fetish play. There is no argument which will bring them back to reality. They want to ejaculate and youre an obstacle to that goal. Getting you to.mon9logue and "debate" them is a trick to stop you from physically stopping their bad behavior.
>>538990249>everybody's dumb but meCongratulations on turning 14
>>538988624>Science agreesI love that people genuinely think in these terms. It never ceases to amuse me. They’re religious zealots without even realizing it.
>oh my god! That 71 iq nigger is murdering those people! I know! I'll use impassioned argumentation and rational prose to convince this barely conscious animal man that killing is wrong and should stop.
>>538990191Except, despite all of your thoughtless caring, you fail to realize one key, critical point:No one cares what you sayOh and i guess another key related point:No one is listening to you. The "reason why trannies have gotten away with this for so long" is hospitals have turned it into a money making machine, and will continue telling your son or daughter that they can be your daughter or son.Meanwhile, youre arguing with faggots on their way to the rope and trying to look friendly so that the doctor's neighbors arent uncomfortable about what he does.The correct response is society shutting it down harshly. Your faggot reasoning doesnt work because a jeet who lied about an online degree can overrule you for shekels.
>>538988493Fucking liberals fucking complaining fucking about fucking word fucking sign fucking babies fucking sensitive fucking controlled fucking speech fucking trannies fucking men fucking issue fucking about fucking fucking fucking in compelled fucking speech fucking shitWhen you use a curse word to point but use those curse words every other word, it makes you seem retarded and take away from your message.
>>538989611except science confirms their brains aren't different from normal men so you should shut the fuck up insane ass retard
>>538990510>no one cares what you thinkIndividually you are correct. Politically, in aggregate. You are completely incorrect. Have you ever asked yourself why Hitler was successful and why the modern Right continues to fail? Why Enoch Powell failed? Why despite 8 years of a supposedly "right wing/nationalist" government, these issues are not resolved?Because the arguments we have been making for decades are rooted in emotional/theological reactionism. If every right minded man started making scientific arguments for Race, for Natural Law, etc we'd be a lot further ahead than we are now.In 2015 this board, for example, was completely full of high minded, intellectual debate and arguments for scientific race realism, scientific reality of sex differentiation, and logical, scientifically and metaphysically rooted political positions.Now it is full of low IQ untermenschen such as yourself with this nigger tier fatalism of "no one cares what you think", atomized retards spamming trannyjaks and screeching "ywnbaw" You're contributing to a farce where something beautiful might once have been.
>>538990352>we need to shut it down because our argument is inferior>engagement bad censorship goodYou are a bad faith caricature. How are you even on pol?
>>538989909Or bold against mudsharks, foids, etc
>>538988742Coffee?
>>538988624>Is the (((science))) in the room with you right now?Science is not some monolithic entity like the Catholic Church was, despite what (((TPTB))) have attempted to engineer socially.A few kikes agreeing with one another and calling it a peer reviewed study is all it takes for "Science" to say something. "Science says" is a perfect synonym with "Jews say". It is just another flavor of hideous Jewish propaganda.
>>538990638Unfortunately this is not correct, it's only correct for those 40 year old autogynophilia degenerates. There are several regions of the brain that are defective from birth in "HSTS" specimens. The stria terminalis for example, is shorter. This is not an argument for legitimizing transgender phenomenon. I'm only arguing that making the arguments that have been common for the last 10 years RE: people like JK Rowling, Matt Walsh, etc and the "ywnbaw" trannyjak spam has done nothing to curb the issue. Attacking the problem scientifically and philosophically would be better.For 10 years, people like Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, Rowling, "TERFs" etc, have been using the chromosome argument, have been using the reactionary arguments.And for 10 years nothing has changed.
>>538990457It’s especially funny because relying on “science” (and, therefore reason) is a male way of interacting with the world.
>>538988885Imagine memento but it's a movie about a tranny examining his mutilated, estrogen filled body trying to figure out what the fuck happened.
>>538991042Just know that your bait really rustled my jammies, fair play.
>>538991042Your posts are an example of why intellectuals are so useless. Spinning your tires in the mud of philosophical and scientific jargon while failing to propose a single useful bit of information.>Well actuallyIs not a political position.At the end of the day might makes right and no amount of political, scientific, philosophical, or religion based rhetoric will change the base line truth of humanity. He who wields the sword will determine what those around them profess to believe.Humans are prone to irrational fantasy and are easily programmed by cults into doing things that are totally illogical. There are no arguments that will fix this, only the potential of a cult of morality that is willing to kill degenerates if they step out of line.
>>538991753No. The issue is that you're spinning your wheels in the mud attacking the outcomes. Which is completely fine if that's all you want to do."You have male chromosomes. You will never be a woman. ACK yourself troon"But this is purely reactive to outcomes that you're effectively accepting as true and treating as legitimate enough to rebel against.My argument attacks the core of the claim. If you tried attacking the core claim. If even 10% of the people spamming "ywnbaw" attacked the core philosophical claim the way I have prescribed."It is impossible to make the claim that you are a woman because you have no access to any of the biomechanical/neurological structures that would even allow you to determine what it feels like to be a woman in the first place, therefore your claim is false"Then this issue would be far far more advanced than it is right now.Chromosomes passively concede the claim that a person CAN change their appearance without changing their DNA. "ywnbaw" passively concedes the same.My argument attacks the problem from it's foundation.
>>538990767Youre not hitler and your rhetoric has been sliding us towarda trans acceptanceAgain, please, kys. Choke on your high horse. Fall off your soapbox and break your fucking neckYoure in canadia. One of those corrupt doctors will even help you if you're white.
>>538988493Stop posting blured shit on 4chan you nigger.
>>538988624
>>538991753If might makes right and trannies are winning the culture war then...?
>>538992026No, my argument does the exact opposite. You're the one treating trannies as though the outcomes of their rhetoric is legitimate enough to fight against, legitimate enough to deny.I am the one saying that the very foundation of their rhetoric is impossible before any outcomes exist for you to legitimize through reactive negation."You will never be a woman" legitimizes the premise that the aim is to become a woman. And "you will never be a woman" is rooted in the chromosome arguments made by TERFs and Walsh/Kirk/etc. "What is a woman", "an adult human female"etc.If your reading comprehension is such that you have mistaken me for attempting to legitimize the claims of transsexuals then I don't know what to tell you or how to possibly explain it in a way you'll understand.
>>538992255What a compelling argumentI now fully believe you are retarded. Thank you for that. Wow all it took was you failing to read what i post and making up an argument to defend against, so you could try to sound smart. By defending your practice of arguing with insane people who have authority figures backing them up. Compelling as fuck, really. Theres no way you *arent* retarded.
>>538991993No it doesn't because the problem of foundation is not addressed by your argument. Male and female bodies are not in any way ambiguous barring extremely rare genetic anomalies. One is ceding ground on this concrete reality by engaging in the nit picking of chromosomes and dna or brain structure. If you were born with a penis you are a man. There is no ambiguity in this regard. Maybe you had some kind of accident but that does not change the nature of what it means to be a man.The foundation is not a scientific one, it is a psychological one, rooted in religious expression that goes back thousands of years (cult of Cybel). There are no arguments to undo this expression of beliefs, only whether or not a society tolerates and promotes such beliefs. Ours clearly does.
Wait does it really say faggot?
>>538992162Yes, but trannies are an expression of a culture war that has been going on for thousands of years. It is the culture war that Christ was engaged in. It's Old testament vs. New, Christianity vs Babylon.
>>538988493>Dixit stated that her staff referred the sign to law enforcement to check whether it violated any public decency laws.They should all be thrown in prison for the rest of their lives
>>538988493Why is is a first amendment question? It is so obviously covered that I’m in shock even rat snake journalists could pretend otherwise
>>538988493Pretty based. I bet it was women who put it up. Words like woman and man are concrete. Theres no moving it. Its based on your biological make up.
>>538992491And I'm not in disagreement with you. That should be all that it takes, and yet over a decade of making this argument has done nothing but embolden support for this phenomenon. You are also mistaking my argument for one that is meant to convert transsexuals into normal people. It is not. It is meant for the masses of people who believe they are being supportive of transsexuals by affirming their claims. I am perfectly aware that you cannot logic an illogical person out of an illogical decision. But what you can do is you can stop being inflammatory and start making philosophical arguments devoid of emotion, because it is exactly that emotion that normies see online, that news organizations write columns about, that give these normies the sense of "siding with the underdog" or "the oppressed class"If even 10% of people started making my argument, in a year there would be noticeable progress in stopping this phenomenon.
>>538988885Really? Source? That sounds interesting and kinda hilarious.
>>538992895All through the dayI me mine, I me mine, I me mineAll through the nightI me mine, I me mine, I me mine
>>538988624Baste.
>>538988624you are a disgusting deranged tranny
>>538992895What normies think does not matter. People side with power and power is not swayed by such arguments.
>>538988624Technically everythings natural.Including carcinogenic or poisionous synthetic compounds.Meth is natural.Chemistry is part of nature.So is rot, death, disease.Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should.Eating your own childrens flesh is natural too but we dont do that for obvious reasons.
>>538988493>Says they're men>Operates on the basis of what leftists established, using the term "trans-women" to refer to biological men, instead of using the logically and factually correct term, "trans-men" which are men that are transvestites. ngmi
>>538988493why does the video never play when i click it?
>>538993147There is a war for our mind
>>538988721Ten yeah. Fifteen pushes it right up against that point where nearly everyone wouldn't know what the fuck is being talked about.
>>538988624>Jews pretend that transsexualism is natural, like homosexuality
>>538988721>stop telling the truth because I say it’s edgyFaggot loser
>>538988493There is no such thing as "hate speech" under the constitution.
>>538993301well hate speech can still exist but it is legally protected the same
What does it say?Terrible reporting
Does it say "transwomen are not men"?
>>538988493>problematicdismissed
>>538988721Yeah its so not edgy that no one has made an article or is threatening chargesOh wait yes they areFuck you faggot
>>538992972the source is a greentext anecdote posted 10 years ago on pol
>>538988624>Transsexualiam Don't you mean transgenderism, because gender and sex are completely and totally independent of each other according to modern neoliberal canon, despite nothing but evidence to the contrary? Or are you being a sneaky cunt and describing how some hive insects that can adapt worker females to breed with the queen when in certain severe circumstances?
>>538988493> NonStop Local also contacted legal professionals at Gonzaga to ask about the First Amendment and how hate speech is determined under the Constitution. It's not. There's no such thing under US law. They wasted their money. Fucking retards.
>>538993106Why do you think arguments are for swaying power? People respond to truth. Why do you think the NSDAP rose from 30 members to being a global super power in 13 years (1920 - 1933) Why couldn't Anton Drexler and Feder grow the party, but Hitler was able to.People side with power. Yes. But if you can convince enough people of your argument enough that they support you, then even more people will support you.You replied with a happy merchant meme, but it seems like you are the one arguing on their behalf.
>>538988493back in the old days someone would vandalize it and cops dont care nowadays all they can do us seethe and whine like women and if you even stare at the sign wrongly some kike millenial woman comes to complain >>538988624im an APA and NIP certified clinical psychologist, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder with delusional hyperfixation similar to anorexia nervosa, go fuck yourself >>538988624
>>538991042No. A male cannot grow a "female brain" because every brain cell carries XY instructions and was exposed to male hormone pattern development. Imagine claiming "I have a female liver in a male body" without a transplant, it's literally absurd. The same is true for the brain, as it's an organ regardless of how complicated it is.When surgeons cut the bridge between brain hemispheres, each half can show its own preferences or knowledge. Your sense of a singular "mind" is an illusion produced by billions of neural interactions.The hypothalamus, amygdala, cortex, everything that makes you "you", is all wired and sized under the influence of a prenatal testosterone surge (or lack thereof). This is why putting children on blockers makes their IQ drop and causes them to fall behind developmentally. The parts of the brain critical for emotional regulation, memory, and overall social stability are especially affected.GnRH agonists (blockers) decrease amygdala and hippocampal volume. These changes can't be reversed. Interestingly, smaller amygdala volumes also appear in PTSD, depression, and anxiety disorders.You destroy normal emotional regulation and then blame us when you're neurotic.Scientists found that the effects of the Y chromosome on brain function operate independently of gonadal hormones, so no amount of titty skittles will ever make them perceive reality the way we women do. This shows very clearly in their behavior. You ARE the set of physical organ processes, and it was decided before your heart even started to beat
>>538993769It's kind of hilarious that the people crying about marginalization of troons are so privileged they have time and resources to consult legal professionals about the exceedingly simple application of the first amendment.
>>538992122In case it's wasn't apparent the blurred word was RETARDED
>>538993961>You ARE the set of physical organ processes, and it was decided before your heart even started to beatSuccinctly put.
>>538988493lel
>>538994013Ah thank you
First amendment does not protect incendiary hate speech like this, in the same way that you can't have swastika signs and the like on public display.
>>538989909I notice everyone becomes super focused on a target whenever they are told by their masters it is okay.Like all the leftists that are absolutely rabid about Russia while their homelands were taken by niggers and dune coons in a generation that they will completely ignore.
>>538994065To be fair, I would have thought DELUSIONAL works but wa wonder what would actually have to be censored
>>538988624masterful bait
>>538994080Wrong.
>>538993961I never once claimed a man could grow a female brain. My claim was that in rare circumstances, in utero, a fetus may not be fully converted from the latent female to the male through androgenesis. In rare circumstances, parts of the fetal brain may not be exposed to enough testosterone and DHT to fully male forms. These defects happen in <1% of the population, but they do occur.At no point did I ever claim that you can turn a male brain into a female brain.The rest of your reply has absolutely no bearing on what I said and I do not disagree with you in ~99.7% of casesFurthermore, I have not once said in this thread, or ever, that I think that the ~0.3-0.5% of people who are born with these particular defects should be treated the way we are currently treating them. I am against that.
>>53899324510 was peak. It's like that degradation of a hobby meme but instead of dudebros its boomers.
>>538994080You can totally fly a Nazi flag in your yard if you want. This is tested and established, protected speech. I grieve that they no longer teach government in school any more. None of you fuckers know how your government works, why it's special in all of human history and that's why you're trying to give it up. OR you do know and you're a bad actor working against US.
>>538988624Right, so a factually incorrect appeal to nature fallacy. Interesting.
>>538988493What does the blurred-out part say?"Homosexual"?Because that would be correct and more complete.
>>538991042Nothing has changed because it's mostly an intentional humiliation program combined with a depopulation vehicle. That's why this topic only became culturally prominent about 13-14 years ago (same time OWS was being countered btw). It has nothing to do with any genuine need for "better arguments".
>>538988493transwomen are men AND the jesus that christians worship is a mythological character
>>538993790Hitler was a Rothschild backed Jew, playing his part in advancing the dialectic. Normies didn't bring Hitler to power, Jewish bankers did.
>>538988721What would’ve been edgy 5 years ago is the troonjak
>>538994396You're the 4th or 5th person who has tried to make this argument so I will be absolutely clear.This is not about changing the opinions of those in power. This is not about converting fanatics of gender ideology. My argument is aimed at the masses of normies who have been given a victim/oppressor narrative, and we have provided all the grist for those mills for 10-15 years by making inflammatory arguments.If you want to convince those who are having their emotions and empathy exploited into supporting this caste of "victims" from the "big bad nayzes" who "hate them"And actually give normal people something more than "you will never be a woman" and "muh chromosomes" then my ontological argument does that.Qualia, the subjective, phenomenological experience of "what it is" is modulated by ontological (Being/What is Actual) reality. To claim to be a thing, means to claim to know what it means to be that thing. To say "I know I am a woman" requires one to have knowledge of the qualia of womanhood. Biomechanics disproves this. The argument of chromosomes is not sufficient. The argument of what is possible for consciousness to understand is more sufficient.If a man has no idea what it feels like to experience oxytocin the way a woman does, to experience puberty the way a woman does, to experience progesterone, estrogen, etc the way a woman does, then the claim of experience is impossible. You can prove what a person feels and what a person thinks and what internal processes shape a person's interior experiences and that is far more powerful an argument than reducing it to genitals or chromosomes which SHOULD be good enough, but is clearly not good enough.If we could get people to understand the impossibility of the claim itself, because the claim is that regardless of sex differentiation, in their MIND they believe they are the other sex, so all of these arguments about secondary material reality fall short... then we win.
>>538994643He wasn't a Rothschild, that's just baseless water muddying, but he was definitely unwittingly and intentionally used in the dialectic process the entire time.
>>538988493what is blurred out on the sign?
>>538994864Did I say he was a Rothschild?
>>538994643>Hitler was a jew>Hitler was backed by jews>Hitler liked being pooped on>Hitler was gay>Hitler molested his niece>Hitler only had one testicle>Hitler was injected with bull semenblah blah blah
>>538994903>no arguments detectedHitler was funded by Jewish bankers. The German high command was full of Jews. Without Hitler, there would be no Israel. None of this is debatable.
>>538990767Thank you for your takes, not everyone on here can post and appreciate you not being retarded. Shills were all over you, we can take that to mean what it always does: that you were right over target.
>>538994793>My argument is aimed at the masses of normies who have been given a victim/oppressor narrative, and we have provided all the grist for those mills for 10-15 years by making inflammatory arguments.Yeah, and it doesn't matter, because "transwomen are women" et al will just continue to be repeated anyway, because this is about humiliation, not medicine or ontology. Your argument is a good one that I fully agree with, but it just doesn't matter. Normies don't visit /pol/ threads about the intricacies of troonism, the only people reading your posts already agree with you.
>>538995011Yes there would absolutely still be an Israel. The Balfour Declaration of WW1 between zionists and Arthur Belfour guaranteed the jews British Palestine "if" they could get the Americans involved in the war. Given the people who surrounded Woodrow Wilson, and the events of the "December Congress" and the federal reserve act, this was very easy for them.In fact, there are newspapers from that time where Wilson claimed it was "not the right time for America to honor the Belfour pact" and then less than a month later he reversed his statement and committed America to the war in Europe.Israel would have existed regardless. You can't subvert people who have studied history.
>>538995123Of course "transwomen are women" will be repeated. The fanatics will not hear my argument and have a lightbulb pop on above their heads and lay down their dilators. The point is to argue so that the masses who hear this slogan are not seduced into supporting it out of empathy. Right now, they are hoodwinked into supporting this ideology because they believe that the individual can self-author their own reality without limitation. The argument has to be made that there are limitations on what the mind can self-author and assert as real or even have knowledge of, and then over time, "transwomen are women" will mean less and less, not to the fanatics, but to the people who have been casting their votes out of misplaced empathy.
>>538995302Uh huh. And where did the Jewish settlers for Israel come from? Germany. Germans paid to send them there with all of their belongings. It's almost like Jews ran both nations and the Balfour declaration set the stage for German Jews to emigrate.
>>538994793Youre retardedAnd i dont mean that in the edgy "you disagree with me, therefore" that you use itYou have a learning disability. Youre delusional. You honestly, in your heart of hearts, and malfunctioning brain believe:1.) Normal, unaffected people are going to be willing educate themselves enough to believe the truth2.) Authority figures (doctors, psychologists who benefit from this) will back you. They wont. They're paid not to. Theres no reason to even if they agree with you. It would hurt their friend's job. 3.) A tranny (who is looking for validation like every single one of them is as a defining trait) is going to listen to an uncomfortable truth that uses big words, instead of an authority figure (doctor. Friend who's 'been through it,' et cetera) who is going to affirm everything they need and prescribe expensive drugs and surgery.Its an illigitimate ideology. Taking it seriously gives it legitimacy.Refusing to argue with them isnt some power tactic, either. If a bunch of guys bombard you with retarded claims about blanket colors and made it political, it would be a waste of time to discuss that, too. The only real tactic is to deride and conquer, as it were.
>>538995515Where did the jews in germany come from? They were expelled from upper and lower Bavaria in the 1500s. Expelled in the 1400s during the plague. Expelled in the 1700s.It was the German Liberal Party and Franz I who let the jews in Vienna have equal rights in 1867 via the Austrian Constitution.If you want to talk about the jewish situation, don't act as though the Haavara agreement is a singular point of failure.>it's almost like jews ran both nations.Of course there was a massive overrepresentation of jews in the Weimar government. That is one of the reasons the NSDAP was elected. People were tired of that. Yes, the Warbergs conspired over the Treaties of 1919. That is also true.You claim that Hitler was funded by the jews though, is well-poisoning that has become fashionable as a way of undermining the modern movement."why do you even like the one person who managed Nationalize his country and deal with the jewish situation, don't you realize he was FUNDED by the Rothschilds, ignore the fact that he threw Rothschilds in prison and took their material capital into the common weal, he was a JEWISH PUPPET GOY.. I mean GUYS"
>>538995702You're* retarded if you have read my posts and think I believe there's any point in converting the fanatics, or the medical industrial complex. I have repeatedly stated that my arguments are for the masses.
>>538995425>The fanatics will not hear my argumentNo one will. You're not the first person to reference the points you made. Normies don't care, and everyone else involved is acting in bad faith. What don't you get about that? You're just jerking yourself off at this point.
>>538988493>the same council when they see a trannies get the rope sign>omg you cant say that
>>538996225Normies care enough to be divided over the mainstream arguments made by JK Rowling and Matt Walsh. Let me ask you this. Sincerely. Why do you think it is advantageous to abandon truth in favor of an inferior argument which has not yet achieved results as much as it has resonated with many of the masses.Or do you believe that /pol/ is the only place people ever talk about this and nothing outside of this board has ever happened?
>>538996087Hitler was funded by American Jewish bankers. He admittedly has Jewish blood. How did he achieve German economic recovery? Why did he stop the German panzer division from taking Dunkirk? Hitler wasn't a hero, he was a figure head designed to elevate the German people for an even more catastrophic fall and he did so spectacularly. Theodore Herzl was perfectly fine with inflaming anti semitism and killing Jews to promote Israel and the Zionist cause.
>>538988742Brewed from authentical and real female (not male) tree's coffee beans.
>>538988493>it is our understanding that it's protected under the First Amendment,”That's not the type of language I'd like to see there, I'd want something more like>that is free speech.but it is Washington I guess.
>>538996426Hitler never admitted to having jewish blood. This narrative comes from his paternal grandmother's name Schicklgruber which is a Bavarian/Austrian peasant name literally meaning "Small picket fence + small farmer"; Alois was born in Strones, a small hamlet, to a farming family.Alois was born out of wedlock, and his biological father is not legally known but historians believe the most likely sire of Alois is Johann Nepomuk Hiedler. If you are going to besmirch the good name of Adolf Hitler, you may as well be honest and say that if Alois's father was Johann Hiedler; this was also Klara's maternal grandfather. The charge of incest in that family would be valid, claiming he had jewish blood is not.You can't subvert a person who is not ignorant of history.
>>538988901>>538988934>>538988964NII!
>>538996329>Why do you think it is advantageous to abandon truth in favor of an inferior argument which has not yet achieved results as much as it has resonated with many of the masses. I never said to abandon any truth, I said it's pointless to act like you're doing anything to influence "the masses" and convince them of anything. Normies care that Rowling and Walsh have takes mainly because they're celebrities. >Or do you believe that /pol/ is the only place people ever talk about this and nothing outside of this board has ever happened?I believe the only people who will see YOUR posts are a handful of bored anons who already agree with you and that your points have already been asserted and presented to people many times now.
>>538988624Excellent bait sir
>>538988493Let me guess>trans women are fucking menThat is what they have a problem with.
>>538997084>I never said to abandon any truth, I said it's pointless to act like you're doing anything to influence "the masses" and convince them of anything. Normies care that Rowling and Walsh have takes mainly because they're celebritiesYou're missing the point in what I was saying. Those takes, while they have been metabolized by normies, are not sufficient to actually delegitimize the gender ideology.>I believe the only people who will see YOUR posts are a handful of bored anons who already agree with you and that your points have already been asserted and presented to people many times now.Unless people take my argument off the board and start using it whenever they encounter these people elsewhere, in front of a more normie audience. Also, I have never seen anyone make the argument I have made. I have seen Ben Shapiro, JK Rowling, Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, etc etc etc, make the same arguments about chromosomes and "what is a woman" etc.I have never seen anyone make the phenomenological or ontological argument I've made. If there's someone who has, point me to them and I'll look that up.
>>538996958Yes you can. History is written by the victors. Subverting someone who believes in (((history))) isn't necessary because it's already done. Look at you defending Hitlers blood, claiming it's not Jewish while ignoring the meat of my claims. Hitlers Jewish financial backers and his questionable strategic input in an event that would have won Germany the war.>You cannot justify pic related without conceding that Germany was not trying to exterminate Jews as (((history))) claims.
