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Women on reddit are exposing the lies the Self Improvement industry is selling to young men, while claiming that incels deserve better than this brainwashing.

According to the bots; If you do xyz, if you lift weights, if you go to the gym, if you make money, if you start being confident, if you walk better, if you get a better job..... It's a lie. Self Improvement is a right wing scam, invented to keep incels in the workforce while siphoning money out of them with useless gimmicks like books, courses and gym memberships.

According to women, there is nothing a man can do to attract women if they find him undesirable. NOTHING

I have been making threads about the brainwashing the Self Improvement shills backed by the right wing are doing to young men. Every thread is instantly attacked by a paid army of shills who never attack the argument and only do ad-hominem attacks(idrama crap etc).

Well, women are now saying the same thing. Society wants to extract labor from incels while GIVING THEM NOTHING IN RETURN
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what you shouldnt do is listenting to women
what you are doing here is listening to "women" on internet
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IT'S THE FUCKING IDRAMA GREEKCEL SPAMMER AGAIN,THIS IS A DATAMINING THREAD,DO NOT ENGAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtqE6ztLK6U[Open]

https://idrama.science/publications/
Greek 1pbtid threads about women, society, relationships (anything incels might be interested in to study them)
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/gf/country/GR/type/op/

They also make threads about video games:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/games/country/GR/type/op/

They published on github about "manosphere analysis":
https://github.com/idramalab/manosphere_analysis

LLM for Detecting Antisemitism:
https://github.com/idramalab/quantify-llm-explanations
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>>539003538
fpbp
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>>539003538
Yes just listen to the Self Improvement red pill gurus and spend all your money in useless gym memberships and protein supplements like A FUCKING RETARD
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>>539003244
Fuck off Dormogenes
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>>539003244
>>538997153
>>538997803
Number 3
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>>539003244
>artificially pacify these men's sexual needs
Which won't solve anything. Onaholes have existed for how long? Men need to bust (raw) inside a woman periodically to not develop psychopathy, so unless full rawdog prostitution is legalised, I don't see the answer, and that opens up a whole potential can of sexual health worms.
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>>539003244
>nothing would make them more attractive
>cant imagine them with money
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>>539003682
Why would she post screenshots from the incel's point of view?
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Incels act like ur average women don’t get with the ugliest thumb looking men on a constant basis. Incels act like Eastern Europe doesn’t exist. Incels act like every happily married dad of four they see in public doesn’t have a norwood 27. Incels act like their genuine looksmatch and IQ matches aren’t fat chicks and black chicks who would both be happy to bounce on nerd dick
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>>539003244
wow a womans only frame of reference is her disgusting blown out pussy. giving them rights was a fucking mistake. UNLESS I AM ATTRACTED TO THEM THEY SHOULD BE EXECUTED. simply cannot fathom a world beyond her own skull. she should be barefoot and pregnant in a kitchen. kill all redditors
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>>539003244
Its all bullshit, incel is a state of mind. Ive seen hideous guys with good looking girls, they just did enough to rizz them up. Women are very stupid and easy, it just takes technique to manipulate them regardless of what you look like
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>>539003244
when did this place become reddit?
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>>539003955
If an incel is not fat, why should his looksmatch be? If he's white, why should his looksmatch not be? I think it would be fair if both sides demand no more and no less than what they themselves bring to the table.
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>>539003609
When are we killing this greek faggot?
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>>539003673
You should compare right one with previous version of himself
Also stop looking at other men malaka
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>>539003244
The truth means full blown hyper gender warfare. That's why we've built a world on comfortable lies.
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>>539003244
>women afraid of losing their place in the hierarchy support men being losers
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>>539004049
>Ive seen hideous guys with good looking girls
This.
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>>539003244
Oh look, it's THIS thread again...
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>>539003244
I'm 5'8. I am in good, fit shape. I'm White, and employed with a non-bullshit job (i.e. could fully support a woman). But I'm fucking 5'8. Five FUCKING eight. The only women I attract are 5'1 jeetas and filipinos. White women are so fucking cooked. It's fucking over. I don't give a shit anymore. I'm out, bros.
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>>539004381
i'm you except i don't have any issues talking with women. maybe it's a skill (mental) issue?
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>>539004266
self-confidence isn't enough anymore. The most confident chad I know ended up becoming somewhat of a male escort of very wealthy women.

You either need money too, or a tribe to back you up against the world. The world will attack anything that is unrestrained right now.
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>>539003538
when the fippy is the bippy
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>>539003786
Government subsidized hookers.
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>>539004381
Incel rebellion soon?
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>>539004381
The fact you think 5'8'' stops you from getting a woman is why you don't have a woman.
i'm 5'9'', 8 separate partners. all white.
going on third kid.

Women can smell desperation from a mile away, if you feel your height is a problem, they can tell you feel it. just stop being so pathetic man. i'd believe you if you said you had a micro penis, that's believable. no one ever didn't get a partner for being only slightly short.
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>>539003244
Actually they could do one thing that made bitchtits attracted to it and that was being a violent man who grabbed her tits, raped her and then laughed about it.

Paki gangs raped 100k+ girls this way. Those Pakis look like absolute ass 2/10's but it doesn't matter they just take these bitches in Britain and fuck them.

>>539003538
THIS
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>>539004049
>>539004340
All ugly/beta dudes who had a good enough personality to get women met their woman within mix-gendered friend circles at university or at work where women couldn't outright reject him because of his looks like if he cold-approached/day-gamed in public. You will not get pussy cold approaching women in public as an ugly dude, whether you have rizz or money or a good sense of humor, if you are ugly you will not be given even a chance. You have to have a friend circle that includes women either at school or work, if you don't have that then it's over for you as an ugly guy.
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the whole redpill incel sphere makes sense when you realize it's a grift to rob ethnicels and other brown losers

it's meant for you young white man
>b-b-but in a chud incel !!
no you aren't
you are letting them make you that's way
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>>539003244
She's right.
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>>539003244
>chick on reddit with kidney diseases
>raj: NOTHING IS DESIRABLE TO THIS WOMAN IT'S A SHAM
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>>539003244
The problem with her "solution" is that she still expects incels to participate in a society that she's outright admitting gives them nothing, and she's apparently too stupid to realize this.
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>>539003244
yeah don't know man. incels are just lost. a genetic dead end. it's ok. they should accept it.
i'm a normal guy and I attract women no matter if I'm currently fit or fat. it comes naturally to me. i'm not even trying. currently i'm doing my 22yo neighbor and I'm 44yo.
when I look at incels I just see a lost cause. no matter of "self improvement" will help them - it's like polishing a turd. some genetic lines are just a dead end. accept it.
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>>539003244
She's 100% right.
Although it's with slight amusement that I feel as though she's not aware of just mow many men figured that out for themselves and just fucked off out of society. They're invisible, so it's natural she's not aware of them.
The 'men' she's still seeing are not even human, if they're still being tricked into this shit with the promise of love.
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>>539004381
at 5'8 it's never the height that's the real issue, you can always compensate in other ways
you go below 5'5' and I would believe you if you don't have anything else genetically going for you like a good face
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>>539005411
Life is just a game anyway, obviously, they let subhumans converse with us and live with us
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>>539003244
>Self Improvement is a right wing scam
self improvement works if the base material has quality. you can't improve a turd to be a non-turd.
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>>539003673
lol that image is brutal
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>>539003786
just chemically castrate them. like MAID but for the sex drive
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>>539004443
>>539004536
>>539004649
>>539005462
Brothers, I can get women (as you can too). My point is that WHITE women have this insane standard, at least where I'm from. I'm talking wife material. Sure, they'll waste your time. But other than that, they are not dreaming of a 5'8 prince charming.
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>>539003786
>prostitution is legalised
the prostitutes I know demand a face pictures before they agree to meet you. even whores are picky and wont fuck an incel lol
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>>539004517
prostitution is 100% legal here and hookers won't take on ugly clients. the nice ones (that aren't used up crack whores) all demand a face pic before they agree to meet you. incels are shit out of luck with those women.
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>>539003538
Fpbp
Funny how it's usually the men raised by single mothers being told their whole lives what women want in a man (without a father figure to fact check) and end up not able to attract any woman because its universal that women HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THEY WANT. Bitch says "nothing" but i bet if he was on the cover of fortune500 she would find him quite attractive.
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>>539004146
looksmatch doesn't mean mirror image. it means equal perceived attractiveness. white incels can only score with abominations like negresses and fatoid ham planets. though even hamplanets have higher standards and usually go for the /fit/ fat fetishists
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>>539004049
>regardless of what you look like
nope. there are totally hopeless spergs out there. ugly guys are not unattractive per se. some manga/vidya addicted faggotface is though.
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>>539003244
There are a small minority of guys who are hopeless that is true. But even that little twink elliot Rogers wasn't completely hopeless. He thought he was but he wasn't. When you see a true incel you know it when you see it. Usually really fat or really skinny or in-between. Just a bad genetic clash. But most are not hopeless and they have been pacified by porn and video games and other time wasters.
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>>539004779
>cold approaching women
lol this is so funny. if you're attractive the women will send you signals so you never have to cold approach them. they will literally flirt with you and then it's a done deal if you can articulate yourself for 3 minutes
all this game bullshit is a grift scammers on youtube sell to unattractive guys who never had a woman smile at them
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>>539003538
I once had a girl flat out reject me. I went no contact and started dating someone else a few months later. After that, guess who showed up in my DMs suddenly wanting to "hang out"?
So basically what I'm trying to say is: fpbp
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>>539004381
I'm 6'1 and I have no problem :)
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>>539003538
This.
Women seethe because they can't take steroids without growing a micro penis.
They don't want chads with incel minds they would have to conform to get a crumb of chadcel cock.
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>>539005882
>usually go for the /fit/ fat fetishists
Fatties are more than willing to be shared by the rare chubby chasing chad/chad-lite.
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Self-improvement/Self-help stuff didn't get really bad until the late 2010s. Read a Tony Robbins or Dale Carnegie book and it would probably help you. A $1,200 course won't.
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I think this is obvious to most, even incels themselves. Only a small fraction do anything beyond play video games all day and watch porn. Prostitution should be legalized.
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>>539003244
You're posting it... again????
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>>539005023
all it takes to attract women is:
1. be somewhat attractive
2. don't be fat (skinny fat is just as bad as fat fat)
3. be able to talk for 3 minutes to a woman without mentioning anime
if it were so hard to pull women humanity wouldn't be at 8 billions
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>>539003673
Define to us what usefull/useless means
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This is a post from that same woman, btw. Miserable and undersexed because she can't get Chad. Probably fat too. Meanwhile I was a virgin til 29 and went from fucking fat chicks to now having an Asian yoga bunny gf. NEVER GIVE UP.
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>>539003244
I don't listen to women.
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>>539003244
This is fake and gay and that screenshot is old. There are always women coming in the gym and barely doing anything while they check out all the guys. They are all cruising
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>>539006210
>Prostitution should be legalized.
it is here, it doesn't help. incels still incel. they're hopeless genetic trash and should be either castrated chemically or gassed
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>>539006278
god I dont know how you guys keep up that erection with an asian or black woman
my dick is racist it seems
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>>539003244
Got take: Islamic homosexuality and treatment of women isn't archaic savagery but a novel improvement
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>>539006549
You're not wrong. They're dick-repellent. Anyone can fuck some fob. It's the prime whites that this is all worth for.
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>>539003609
This nigger needs to be shot.
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>>539003244
Trootal
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>>539003955
Their standards are too high thats it. They don’t wanna fuck ugly women.
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>>539003244

Never listen to a women. They are the most retarded and spoiled people alive. If you gave that incel she is talking about 10 million dollars so he can have all the status symbols, she would be jumping on his dick. It's that simple. Women want high status men and money gives you status, simple as that.
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>>539004536
>Incel rebellion soon?
Never ever. You can point to the red turban or Taiping rebellions all you want but since modern China also has millions of incels and literally nothing is happening it's clear that modern conditions prevent that.
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Women are only free to choose what they do with their bodies in societies where men allow them that freedom. It was given to them by men and can be taken away by men. Look at muslim countries. I'm not saying they should all be raped or owe anybody anything or whatever but they should remember they only have what men allow them to at the end of the day. A lot of these incel types probably just need to lower their standards, which is something the majority of women need to do too. All these 5'2" 275lb ham planets with a couple of nigger kids are acceptable matches for incels with no other options. But even those roastie beast think they're entitled to travis kelse or whichever rich athlete of the day so who are really the ones who need to lower their expectations of what's "owed to them"?
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>>539004381
>But I'm fucking 5'8
you're putting way too much stock in this, anon. Remember that bumble chart that was going around a while back where it said only 15% of women are willing to date a 5'8 man? That was a stat without context. The context? Only 2% of women on the app pay for the plan that allows them to set a height filter and of those 2% of women who are the most height shallow, EVEN 15% of them thought 5'8 was a good enough. If you were 5'4 you might have an issue but between 5'8-5'11, height is not the issue for you. You're defeating yourself. I bet those 5'1 nons are approaching you and hitting on you and you think because White women expect you to do the initiating that they must not be into you. Not true. Brown and black women are far more desperate, are not selected nearly as much, and are, as a result, far more likely to approach and be the sexual aggressor. This is also why they tend to engage in public exhibitionism and this is also why fat and otherwise ugly women do the same. The lack of sexual attention causes them to overly sexualize themselves for that attention
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99% of men could get a woman today. She may be fat or crazy, but they could get a woman.
Unironically ask a homeless skitzophrenic woman on a date. Offer her a free meal as a practice date. If you don't get robbed you at least got a date.
You can also ask the fattest ugliest hamplanet at the coffee shop.
You gotta start somewhere
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>>539006278
Based. Wagmi never give up lads.
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>>539006549
>god I dont know how you guys keep up that erection with an asian or black woman
Same
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>>539004266
men aren't the problem, nigger grow the fuck up
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>>539007826
im not getting an entry level postition at the foid factory sorry, i guess the economy just has to crash
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>>539003244
They don't defend incels, they hate them.
They just want them to be ghettoed away in the modern version of a convent or killed in useless wars.
That's why you don't let women decide anything. Their frame of reference ends at their own nipples.
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>>539003244
People lie on the internet
This “woman” will never be a woman
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>>539008027
Why do you deserve anything better than entry level?
Do you exercise? Do you watch what you eat? Do you have hobbies that are interesting? Can you hold a conversation?
Start somewhere to practice. You gotta learn how to play catch if you want to play in the major leagues
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>>539007826
There are fucking hamplanets who have a harem of 4-5 orbiters.
And no, they don't have "character", they are as ugly inside as outside.
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>>539003244
Brother its the same image in the OP post again and again and again every goddamn day for years and years and years
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>>539008278
cant reach the big leagues without a top 5% character build
struggling just to play in junior league isn't worth it and is only meant to keep you in the workforce
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>>539007453
Maybe you injuns aren't so bad after all
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>>539003673
Comparison is the thief of joy.
Bro on the right has a full head of hair. He'd look better if he grew it out a little.
And frankly guy on the right will make a nerdy 6 very happy.
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>>539008278
The only female wallflowers are shy girls.
They are definitely a good catch, but the chance that a shy guy meets a shy girl is below zero.
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>>539008278
The "big leagues" are pure bullshit fraud. The entire house needs to be brought down.
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>>539003244
Incels are some of the biggest self defeatist faggots on the planet.
They are their own worst enemies.
Iran and Israel need to hurry TF up so we can draft and send most of these sexless faggots to the meat grinder because frankly they don't have any value.
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>>539008744
Did they not tell you? You're going too since you're a commie subversive.
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>hey guys my rebbit shitpost stayed up
we're very proud of u
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>>539007826
Nigga fucking this is worse than being a virgin wtf.
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>>539003244
bs whenever im in greece I flash my abs and heigh little greek girls come running for sexy time. I admit self approvement does not work if your fat and have a personality complex for the rest of us?
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>>539003244
Then the murders will continue until moral improves, it would seem.
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>>539003244
>It would be best to find an alternative
She's more right than she could ever realize
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>>539003244
all I'm reading is that we should just skip to the pillage and rape
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>>539003244
As easily solved forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.

Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
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>>539005421
>>539003244
>>539009144
>>539008744
>>539006471
>>539006210
Bots from Glowjeeties and Rothchild group.
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>>539007823
>Brown and black women are far more desperate, are not selected nearly as much, and are, as a result, far more likely to approach and be the sexual aggressor.
Can confirm, nons go out of their way to flirt with me; as in drop what they are doing and cold approach. White women never do that unless youre Bradley Cooper or some shit.
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>>539003244
>thier
people who can't even spell simple words advice should never be taken
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>>539009722
>>539009722
Bradley Cooper had/has an amazing career. Loved his actor in Limitless, Interstellar, True Detectives. He's one of these quintessential chad's.
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>>539003244
Shitty personalities paired with zero social skills are probably the biggest barriers for incels. You have to be more outgoing with a more positive attitude. It’s not 100% all looks. I met a good looking body builder with a 300 lb Filipina gf at a party last Saturday. I find out he’s clearly a sperg based on the past behaviors I heard about in stories. He might even be lurking in this thread right now. All that dedication for a land whale that made him wear a shirt with her name and multiple pictures of her on it because she’s clearly so out of his league if we ignore the autism.
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>>539009655
Rothschild, the king of jews, is now a queen, is that true?
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>>539011044
Shits grim if you have autism.
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>>539010248
>I don't sleep, I just dream
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>>539011044
We always ignore the autism, because the autism is not relevant.
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>>539003244
Jews are so lazy they can't even fake a new reddit post and have been posting this same one for 3-4 years now. Run out of shabbos-goy to do your bidding kikes?
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>>539003851
>money is attractive
if that were true they'd all be horny over bill gates
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>>539003244
>What could he do that would make me attracted to him
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>>539003244
Did she forgot that people masturbate?
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>>539005765
>hookers won't take on ugly clients
Not true. I am hässlich wie die Nacht and have had German (= Romanian) hookers.
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>>539003609
what is he datamining though? all he's doing is talking about how horrible the dating dynamics are in greece. and isnt greece a poor country?
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>>539014380
Does he really need to do it for everyday for 7+ fucking years on this board
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>>539014185
Wait, is there some sort of racialist hierarchy within the legal german prostitution "industry?|
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>>539003244
>30 min ago
you posted this fucker
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>>539014518
He has no wife nor kids, you think he has anything better to do?
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>>539014643
There's a racialist hierarchy within everything.
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>>539004443
You don't live in Canada. There are barely any white women here in the first place and most are already fucked beyond repair.
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>>539003244
based and true joe rogan is not your fucking friend and neither are any of the "blank-maxxer" faggots
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>>539014857
No there is fucking not.
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>>539003866
This
And who would let a hooker call their boss
Why do you need a job to go to the hooker either
It seems like it's fake bait made by an anon
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>>539008278
Why do you deserve free fucks?
You are not absolutely entitled for others to care about your views, you understand that? right?
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incel is really missing out on what the core is that life got to offer in terms of general wellbeing
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>>539003673
Guy on the right needs to wear contacts, grow some stubble, and grow his hair. Then he would mogg the guy in the left.
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>>539015478
>right: married for 10+ years with 2-4 kids
>left: has STDs, broke, probably has a kid that some other cuck is raising and paying for. (Thats not a positive, thats two negatives adding together)
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>>539003244
i am always skeptical of strangers on the internet when they say things like "as a women", "as a white man', etc.
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>>539015478
>and grow his hair
He's balding
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>>539015478
No, because Looksmaxxing is a mental illness that always seems to end in suicide or accidental death. Connor Murphy, Zyzz, and Clavicular is next.
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>>539003538
>THERE'S NO WOMEN ON THE INTERNET
A female janitor was doxed recently, and you shills have been trying to cover it up for years that this place is moderated by women
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I'll never forget the day I was at my local liquor store. After grabbing a couple tallboys, this very short Mexican guy with a beard snarked at me for being so young looking buying beer. I'm 37. So I did picrel (right) response by say thanks bro!
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>>539003244
>lizzy
fat and or a failed tranny.



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