>saved spain from a communist takeover>executed leftists and communists>kept spain out of major involvement in WWII>industrialised spain after the war resulting in great economic growth and raising living standards>made the catholic church a core part of his regime, allowing the church to enforce moral standards and mandatory catholic education in schoolsWhy am I supposed to hate him again?
>kept spain out of major involvement in WWII Hitler literally saved him from getting executed by anarchists
>>539006679Given Spain's geographical position, Franco knew he couldn't declare war on the USSR without the western aliies deciding to invade spain out of convinience.
>>539006587Are you Irish?
>>539006587fascism is the way
>>5390065878/10 didnt go hard enough on jews
>>539006587Jews hate him. That's why.
>>539006587Nothing much.And also his regime didnt outlive him and transictioned into democracy right after.Thats about as sucessfull you can expect from a one man show i guess.
>>539006587>had lower growth than communist Slovenia>would be actually better off under communist>so weird politically even Hitler couldn't tolerate his ramblings about monarchy
And now Spain is incredibly left wing.The more you force values on people the more they whiplash in the other direction.
Criminalizing homosexuality in the 70's which was the downlall of his regime.
>>539007545That's why you don't let up and continue killing communists and jews.
>>539006587>Why am I supposed to hate him again?you prolly shouldnt, unless youre basque, or catalonian, or galacian, or anyone who spoke any of the other dialects/languages other than castillian spanish. he was definitely pretty oppressive to them, both during the war and after it. tho it wasnt TOTALLY without reason. the basque certainly can be a bit unruly at times (to put it extremely lightly lol, picrel). and catalonia was similarly full of literal anarchist terrorists. franco was just terrified of another civil war breaking out again and further weakening what was left of spain. so he went all ironfist on a mfer. and to his credit, it did work. no civil war, and spain didnt end up a communist exclave during the coldwar, which wouldve RLY RLY RLY fuckin sucked for them.but at the same time, rigid centralized govt can only rly be SO free in terms of its markets. so they fell behind the other more economically liberal western yuro cunts when they got rebuilt after WWII. and they never rly caught back up. spain under franco traded economic and personal freedoms, for political stability. given how fractured spain still is, to this day, it mightve even been the right call.but i definitely see why the basque had no issue slaughtering francoists like pigs. you cant let some lil galacian manlet do that to you if youre some giant 6'5" basque dude.
>>539006587He should've treated his Moroccan troops more harshly for being Nafri apes, otherwise he's one of my favourite historical figures. Not joining WW2 was the rational choice.
>>539008081Ironically Franco himself was Galician.
>>539007698Christianity is jewish. Christian monarchy is twice as jewish
>>539006587He didn't execute enough Communist and let most live and let the traitorous royals back on the throne.As soon as he died they went back to practically dissolving Spain in just a couple decades.
>>539008095>He should've treated his Moroccan troops more harshly for being Nafri apesthats also another thing i shouldve mentionedpretty much every region in spain has some story of francos nafris coming in and raping fucking every woman and child they could findidk how over-exaggerated any of that is, but rly any amount of that is too much when youre trying to unify the fucking cunt>>539008117ikr? tho as i understand it galacian isnt seen as an ethnicity. its just the ppl who speak that dialect. which franco did, as a kid. weird shit.but thats STILL how spain is desu, so its hard to say if him repressing things helped, or just kicked the can down the road for it to become even worse than it was. in catalonia theyll sometimes just straight up switch to english instead of communicating with you in spanish. theyre RLY salty about it. basque surprisingly resurrected their language, pretty quickly too. in basque cuntry, nearly everyone under lik 30 speaks basque. and sometimes theyre not even much better at spanish than i am loli get why its annoying from a govt standpoint, but like, anthropologically/linguistically, i think thats fucking cool as hell. basque are homies. gr8 surf too. just dont drink that red wine/coca-cola mix drink they all drink now. its fucked
>>539008477He is literally a right wing Tito and worse in every way
>>539007379Portugal did it better. I can't like Salazar because of his weird racemixing obsession though.
>>539008549>a tyrant will always prefer the company of foreigner, instead of the native ~Aristotle>what we want is an obedience to authority, an absolute obedience to authority ~SalazarGee, I wonder why that might be.
>>539006587Cucktholicism is not christianity, its old church of satan and globohomo 1.0
>>539008635He wanted Portugal's empire to survive and thought the only way to do that was to make it racially homogeneous by culturally enriching Portugal and whitewashing everywhere else. It wasn't worth the cost and wouldn't have worked anyway, but "end racism by making everyone the same race" was in the air at the time.
>>539006587Supported Castro. Single handedly saved his regime from US sanctions.
>>539008549>Portugal did it better.Dont think so.Salazar tried to go against the wind and it was not worth it.He had the good read on WW2 and was atcualy one of the main reasons to keep Spain out of it but he had a bad read on the Colonial wars/Descolonization stuff.The Algerian war was already a good idea of what was to happen.Franco on the other hand didnt make a very major mistake.Many people praise the Singaporean guy i forget the name in terms of Modern Dictatorships as the top example. I never see him much discussed on /pol/.
>>539008549Yeah, like Hitler having one tesitcle or dating his neice, right? Stop reading propaganda jewish trash created after the fact.
>>539008876Yeah This never happened. Again, you’re reading holohoax tier nonsense.
>>539007545By your logic, when the pendulum swings back towards the Spanish Right, it will be incredibly based and commie faggots will never recover?
>>539009128Salazar was not a "national socialist"
Because fascism is retarded that's why spain hasnt been relevant since the end of the Spanish empire, under le based fascism it underperformed compared to democratic countries and even socialist ones. Even Hitler hated this manlet
communists successfully propagandized that the displaced spanish commies were good boys who dindu nothing wrong as opposed to slaanesh worshipping sadists trying to make spain the first cambodia
>>539008477At least he suppressed the real Falangists and made sure they were politically neutered and their ideology was replaced by weak and boring conservative bullshit that could easily be swept aside when he died.
>>539009269He wasn't fascist. He started out as a conservative christcuck monarchist and ended with christcuck pinochetist monarchism. And yes, communist Slovenia outperformed Spain on GDP per capita despite starting at same level
>>539009343Falangists should have fought with the communists against the christcucks and anarchists.
>>539009425spain started with full retard commies throwing clergy into dungeons designed as artistic epitome of sadism, lenin and stalin were moderates in comparison
>>539006587Let Rivera die in the hands of communist kikes so he would assume power. He was a shitty general too, the Germans would lay down an artillery barrage on enemy positions and we be confused when Franco wouldn't follow up with his infantry to TAKE the enemy positions. Fuck Franco.
>>539008889at a glance it always seems odd that a literal fascist/monarchist would get on well with a literal communist. but if you look a lil deeper, they were definitely very similar dictators, from a subjects PoV. just brutally repressive to anyone not walking directly on the line they drew for them
>>539009598The civil war had equal deaths on both sides though. Didn't it?
>>539009724Franco was not a fascist. Falangists were and he got rid of them
>>539009488I don’t really think that was an option. Also there wasn’t really such a thing as “with the communists” in that conflict. The Stalinists, Trotskyists, socialists, anarchists, etc spent as much time killing one another during the Spanish Civil War as they did fighting the “fascists”.
>>539006679>HitlerThe Kraut involvement wasn't that big, they tested here the Condor and a bunch of other shit that they used after during WWII, The Italians on the other hand waged most of the war, they ofc wanted to take the Balearic Islands if Franco failed, he didn't.
>>539009598iirc the other gommies (the USSR funded ones) basically betrayed those ones youre talking about. and fair play lol its actually crazy how they managed to make gommunism look even worse than it is>>539009770he was kinda both thoits complicated loland ultimately it was all just nonsense anyways, because it was simply NOT a very effective way to run the cunt
>>539009777I mean with non trotskyist state socialists obviously
>>539006587>Why am I supposed to hate him again?Because he was tricked by the traitor Canaris into not letting Onkel A taking Gibraltir from the Spanish side
He was a moor lover, a panchito lover and he did trust the catholic church and praise its priest.All wrong.He also pissed women and in the end feminism became a bigger enemy than he thought.
>>539010074>He also pissed women and in the end feminism became a bigger enemy than he thought.That is actually in line with Catholicism. While Jesus says "there is neither man or a woman etc etc", st. Paul says that women should bear the collective guilt for Eve taking the fruit and therefore women are inferior. Paul says this quite openly.
>>539007034>Given Spain's geographical position, Franco knew he couldn't declare war on the USSR without the western aliies deciding to invade spain out of convinience.Given Spain's geographical position invasion would have very difficult for the alliesIf Spain would have either taken Gibraltir for themselves or let the Germans take it from their borders then it would have effectively made the Mediterranean an Axis lakeThey wouldn't have to worry about defending anything on the Mediterranean side and the Axis North African campaign would have been successfulThe mountains to the NW of spain are nigh impossible to do a Naval invasion, they could have been held with a very small amount of soldiersThe entire Portuguese border they don't have to worry aboutThey could concentrate defenses in the small section of SW Spain on the Atlantic from the Portuguese border to Gibraltar, 1/2 of which is somewhat mountainous and easily defensibleMay Canaris burn in hell eternally
His system of governance only worked with him in charge, similar to socialist Yugoslavia and Tito. With him gone the government simply transitioned to lukewarm liberal democracy. There was no guiding ideology or revolutionary spirit left.
>>539010366That is because he was a conservative, not a revolutionary
>>539010460That's true, he purged most of the actual revolutionaries.
>>539009777damn, nice pic you posted there.that's some rare old gold.
>>539009724Franco and Castro were both Galicians IIRCThere was much butthurt in Spain at the time (1960s) at the US for forcing it to leave Morocco.
>>539009777>The Stalinists, Trotskyists, socialists, anarchists, etc spent as much time killing one anotherYes George Orwell (Eric Blair) was nearly killed in this violence. Many of his friends actually were killed. He had to flee the country because of this.Not what he expected when he went to Spain to "fight facists".
>>539008081>you prolly shouldnt, unless youre basque, or catalonian, or galacian, or anyone who spoke any of the other dialects/languages other than castillian spanish. he was definitely pretty oppressive to them,All the industry he built was in those zones, the ones that lived the best during the franquismo were those, ignorant
>>539009900USSR at this time was trying to ally with Leon Blum's France, and the French public were sceptical of communism, let alone anarchism, so Moscow was trying to uphold the "bourgeois" Spanish republic, whereas the radical leftists wanted to overthrow it.So you had commies killing anarchists in Barcelona.The whole situation was confusing as hell to anyone caught up in it that didn't understand the big picture.
>>539012056I struggle to understand why anarchism was considered worse considering how to the general public the USSR was literally presented as the anti christ. I suppose the mass media wasn't so effective back then.
>>539009999>tricked by the traitor Canaris into not letting Onkel A taking GibraltirSo Canaris would have given the Canarias to Britain
>>539006587>Why am I supposed to hate him again?He lost a testicle in the Morocco war so he doesn't look good.That's why he's not revered as a God.
>>539006587Alek Yerbury?
It seems as if he did not adequately prepare the succession and as a result his country instantly became democratic on his death, with result we can see today of collapse under feminism, lgbtq, and foreign immigrants.
>>539012306Well you had all that crazy shit with anarchists shooting priests and nuns and blowing up churches.The communists ironically were trying to stop this, because it complicated USSR relations with France.
>>539012698His plan hinged on the King inheriting the power, but instead he cucked down became a de facto hereditary president
>>539009185Not really, the Spanish were always liberal at heart. They were being continuously blue balled from actually living that out for about 150 years
>>539013252Not true at all. Spanish are extremely devout to this day. What you posted is true for Russians, except instead of liberal it is leftist
>>539012306the anarchists killed a lot of ppl as well. completely senselessly too. robbed churches, shot clergy, business owners, and anyone else who was mad about ityou know, the usual>>539012056>The whole situation was confusing as hell to anyone caught up in it that didn't understand the big picture.i bet it was confusing for them too lolimagine being some anarchist, then suddenly you find yourself fighting some irish dude who came over to fight for the republic lolspanish civil war is just a legendary shitshow. up there with the syrian civil war, and warlords era china
>>539012044that can only go so far tho. especially when you see your cousin over on the french side, in biarritz or some shit, doing way better than you are.idk. suppression stuff aside, i wasnt there, so idk how that went down, other than anecdotally.but i can comfortably say that the way franco ran the economy as a whole was fucking stupid, and it didnt work very well. he robbed spain of a chance for a proper post-war recovery. any would-be intl aid was kinda hesitant to provide aid to him, thinking to themselves, "do i rly want this guy around? what if he joins the axis?", etc
>>539006587He get NS, commies and right wing golems butthurt too lol
Old documentary about this war. Made in 1980s so contains lots of people who actually took part in ithttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjYvTCiDegvih37ZwEHOMnDkKJWGBNI9
>>539013083Franco hated Alphonso, who nearly got him and his friends killed in Morocco back in 1920s.He was never going to allow him back into power.Instead he groomed the boy Juan Carlos to succeed him.
>>539014147>international blockade by world jewry>the only help were portugal, argentina>able to eat and buy a home under 10y with only one wage>one of the very few countries were 98% of the citizens had a home>full sovereignity on food, industry and bordersBut he did poorly, yeah, siesta spaniards are lazy blah blah blah. It was not perfect, but it's better than post democracy
>>539006587He was a good lad. I'd like to visit his memorial some day.
>>539014624correct link:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjYvTCiDegvih37ZwEHOMnDkKJWGBNI9I
>>539014879>international blockade by world jewry>allied to the usaKek
>>539006587Because he was based from all angles.Sadly the CIA niggers removed Carrero Blanco.And also in "Palomares incident" Franco started to let kikes slowly take place in Spain.But he was based and a smart military man.
>>539016537From the angle that he removed actual patriots (falangists) from power?Or from the angle that he was a christcuck monarchist (woah that was never tried before) who did worse on economy than commies?
>>539016480>allied to make pretend during cold war against USSR despite formerly being an axis chadYes, he played his card well
