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A modern nation cannot function without fuel. Russia cannot support a population of 130 million without mechanized combines and transport logistics. No fuel is a nation killer that will force them to cuck in world historical fashion unless they can find a way to stop the drones.
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>>539007059
1991 borders yes, if russia's front line really collapses. reparations? unlikely.
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The Russian occupied territories are mined out piles of rubble with less than 3 million boomers with Russian sympathies due to soviet nostalgia still there, it's worthless at this point for Ukraine to waste more men trying to take back, better to just surrender what makes sense but deliver Russia a pyrrhic victory.
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>>539007265
>if russia's front line really collapses
it doesn't need to. the point is to make them leave voluntarily if they want to have fuel
>reparations? unlikely
why? if they want to have fuel, they will have to pay for it
>>539007306
if they're such garbage, why does Putin want them so badly and is willing to sacrifice a million dead russians to take them?
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>>539007059
>Is it possible for Ukraine to extort 1991 borders

No. If you ask any of the Ukraine supporters how this would happen they have zero actual plan or explanation. Its just 'Russia will collapse in 2 weeks' cope that has existed in some form since 2022
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>>539007439
Why not just keep escalating their drone attacks on Russian refineries and oil export shipping? Just make it so Russians get no fuel or oil exports until they go back and pay up?
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>>539007395
>if they're such garbage, why does Putin want them so badly
a mutt wouldn't understand
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>>539007527
you can't explain it either
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>>539007059
Top kek, why would Russia just wait and lose? The next is destroying drone production in Europe and logistics hubs. I think it is going to that and it has been told many times.
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>>539007930
then nukes if doesn‘t work
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>>539007930
>>539007975
They will also just mobilise if things start going very badly.
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>>539007059
Retreat has been Moscow's go-to strategy since the 1980s, and it has only made things worse.

More likely is that Russia retaliates. Right now, the opponent is shooting at the heart, while Russia is only shooting at a bullet sponge that no one really cares about. Even Cucktin has to eventually realize that this is not sustainable.
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>>539007395
They used to not be garbage, Putin is just too stubborn to give up once he realized he wasn't going to get a swift bloodless victory like Crimea, there used to be 13 million people in the territories Russia occupies by the way, used to have a lot of industry, it's all gone now.
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>>539007059
only if russia will collapse internally or we get some insane advantage.
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>>539007494
I guess the problem is that Russia can keep blowing up Ukrainian infrastructure too, and ultimately the Ukrainians are the ones running their whole economy on GoFundMe right now so I think they break first
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>>539007930
>Top kek, why would Russia just wait and lose?
Because they don't have fuel.
>>539008229
>or we get some insane advantage
The insane advantage is that you get to decide if Russians have fuel or not now.
>>539008240
Okay but Ukrainians have fuel and Russians don't.
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>>539008240
If there's any kind of economic downturn then they're fucked, western budgets are already stretched as it is without sending infinity gibs to these corrupt faggots.
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>>539008028
Everyone realizes this, just no one wants to escalate hoping soon there will be no hohols to continue the attrition war against the whole fucking europe. But if they give Ukraine rockets to strike inside russia and escalate themselves, or send Polaks or something, than the big war is just inevitable. The problem is its futile to slowly fight against Europe, that os what they want. They have 4 times more population and industry. In this case you can‘t just wait.
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>>539008456
i think a massive fuel shortage definitely causes an economic downturn for sure
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>Ukraine imports all their materiel
>Cucktin won't bomb the countries supplying them because MUH eskcuhlashon (It's only escalation when you attack your enemy not when they attack you lol!!)

Stupid fucking dumb fucking war holy moley guacamole
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>>539008611
Why hasn't he bombed the countries supplying them?
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Russia lost less than 1/3 of oil processing.
But Russia was exporting more than that share.
So the exports have been closed now.
And the countries that imported all that fuel are now in crisis.
And cannot sell any fuel to Ukraine.
Funny enough now Ukraine gets into a more severe fuel crisis than Russia because they bombed those distilleries.
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>>539008611
>materiel
>Ukraine imports
The only thing Ukraine does is just catching soldiers and supplying them to the frontline. The rest is managed directly by Nato.
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>>539008697
...peeing into the further side of pool, you know.
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>>539008641
I D K Anon-senpai.

If a country sends missiles/rockets/shartillery to your enemy they are a participant in the war. They can't shriek like tards when they get bombed and start waving article 5. And even if they did, the war was fucking inevitable anyway. If they don't get bombed that just signals to them that they can continue attacking without reprisal. It's either attack them or get fucked. I guess Russia wants to get fucked.

>>539008721
>>539008721
We're on the same page anon. That's exactly what I said.
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>>539008697
Nothing surprising. The planning horizon of Zelensky is 3 days. He is a cokehead, everything he does is just for the lulz.
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>>539008697
>And the countries that imported all that fuel are now in crisis.
Lmao, this is hilarious cope. Thank you babushka.
>>539008901
>If a country sends missiles/rockets/shartillery to your enemy they are a participant in the war.
Then why doesn't Putin treat them as such?
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what's stopping russians from droning ukraine like that? can't they just bomb railways and roads/bridges in western part of the country?
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>>539009075
lack of ability
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>>539008441
>Okay but Ukrainians have fuel and Russians don't.

I would have assumed a country like Russia could easily have 20 quadrillion barrels of fuel in reserves, but I guess it wouldnt surprise me if it came out that they somehow just hadn't done that
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>>539007059
>unless they can find a way to stop the drones
The only way to stop the drones and ukrainian terrorists is to make sure that Ukraine don't exist anymore.
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>>539009075
>can't they just bomb railways and roads/bridges in western part of the country
Railways, roads and bridges are not the same things as rafineries bro.
Those are easily repaired.
At this point they cannot harm Ukrainian logistics, a better question would be why they didn't do it in the first month and the answer is inadequate, shitty planning.
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>>539011763
Then why are you here making posts instead? Sign a service contract.
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>>539007059
Nafojeets are in terminal cope it seems
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>>539010917
>I would have assumed a country like Russia could easily have 20 quadrillion barrels of fuel in reserves, but I guess it wouldnt surprise me if it came out that they somehow just hadn't done that
They do but a trend is a trend. I don't think they can cope with this scale of drone attacks. It's not like Ukrainians will stop or there will be some huge breakthrough in anti-drone defense.
Also, fuel is not magically transported. Just because diesel is sitting in storage doesn't mean there won't be supply issues.
I am not sure how much of this is critical but one thing is certain, it's not good for them and it is quite a big deal.
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>>539007059
>Is it possible for Ukraine to extort 1991 borders and reparations?
probably not
but it's possible for them to keep pidor bogged down in Nizhnya Podpizdovka long enough for us and the Balts to arm ourselves to the teeth
which will be good enough for us
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>>539012509
They need an ego-boost after losing to goat-fuckers with bottle-rockets twice.
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>>539012709
How is Russia to survive without fuel though?
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>>539012671
Wild West. Saloon. A young cowboy bursts in and starts firing. Every bottle and glass shatters, everything is in pieces... Finally, with one last well-aimed shot, the young cowboy snuffs out the candle. Then the old cowboy gets up, approaches the young man, and says:
"Grind off the sights, son."
"What the fuck for, grandpa?!"
"Son, I used to be as quick and accurate as you. But one day I ran out of bullets. Three guys came up to me, took my Colt, shoved it up my ass, and twisted it three times. Grind off the sights, son."
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Ukraine doesn't exist anymore. Russia won, nato lost. No refunds, lmao
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>>539014113
>when even a Wild West joke told by a pidor must be about anal rape
it's not homosexual, it's only for discipline!
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>>539014252
Beware the unexpected consequences.
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>>539014093
Imagine needing fuel to take the GAYTO proxys land at will LMAO
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>>539007059
Russian oil and gas business is worth about 200 billion annually and Ukraine has done 13.5 billion worth of damage according to Kyiv post since 2025. Its big money but not that big in context
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>>539011763
you can't even take donbas after almost 5 years of this shitshow so good luck with that lmao
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>>539014619
>those are traffic jams not queues
>those are AI videos
>we didn't need those refineries
>it's only 0.03% of storage
>it's a lot of smoke but little real damage
>affected refineries are repaired within 48 hours
>the refineries are down for regular summer maintenance
>shortages happen only because people panic buy
>it’s regular tourist season traffic
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>>539014558
How will they harvest the crops without fuel for their tractors?
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>>539014093
Same way they beat nato with used washing machine parts
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>>539014252
> there's anything sexual in that joke
Polan, I....
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>>539014619
How much economic damage do you think 1000s of Russians sitting in fuel lines for days causes?
>>539014795
By stealing fuel from Ukraine?
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>>539014718
I didn't say any of those, interesting delusions if you thought my post implied something like that, I used ukrainian sources too
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>>539014836
>twisting a gun in a man's asshole isn't sexual, it's just a regular chetverg in matushka Rossiya
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>>539007059
They tried exactly this strategy with us for like 5 years, why do you think this is less retarded when trying it with a country sitting on more fuel than it could ever use?

The strategy was chanceless in Russian hands and remains so in Ukrainian hands, neither country is seriously blockadable.
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hasnt Russia already ran out of fuel, ammo, meat cubes, washing machines, tires and China invaded Siberia ?
zelenski just needs to walk into Crimea at this point
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>>539014845
Lmao. Hohols have a far worse fuel crisis. They even had to raise bus fares today to the levels higher than most of western Europe (while still having African tier income).
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>>539014914
>why do you think this is less retarded when trying it with a country sitting on more fuel than it could ever use?
Why are they sitting on it instead of sending it to gas stations so Russians can get it?
>>539014933
No just fuel. It's funny watching the fights break out.
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>>539014899
Assholes in general are not sexual in normal countries, my LGBT friend.
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>>539014955
>Hohols have a far worse fuel crisis.
Post videos of their fuel lines then like what you see in Russia.
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>>539007395
>a million dead russians
It's a little under 400k still.
>to take them?
The Donbas Republics were 10 million ethnic Russians who declared independence from Ukraine due to the ongoing attempts to genocide them as part of the Jewish tyrant's plan to ethnically cleanse the region and remake Jewish Khazaria.
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>>539007265
You got it backward. They will never give back the ukrainian territory at any cost but they could pay a portion of reparation disguised as venture fund like US proposed.
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>>539014845
Probably quite a lot, about 50 million people have been affected by fuel shortages, in some regions you got to wait 18 to 39 hours to get fuel, I cant give a number like the Kyiv post gave about the damages
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>>539014997
>Assholes in general are not sexual
we've already established that it's not homosexual, it's just for discipline and respect
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>>539015037
cool story babushka
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>>539007930

you seem delusional

ukranian drones are made in ukraine, they are now selling drones to western countries.

russia can't even destroy ukraine's drone making capabilities, why would bringing nato into the fight help anything?
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>>539015097
Well, are you a commander that enacted and dropped punitive gay sex and compared the results of both? No?
So you're just listening to propaganda. Maybe it works. Just beware of the unexpected consequences and the perverts.
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>>539014968
Because they've always sucked badly at logistics, see their functioning during peacetime, whether now or under the soviets.

That's the thing: You're adding relatively little of messiness to a system that is already used to being a dysfunctional mess anyway. By all means continue and have fun, just don't delude yourself about the effectiveness.
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>>539015174
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>>539015226
Why are they sitting on it instead of sending it to gas stations so Russians can get it?
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>>539007265
They didn’t even have Crimea or cities like Horlovka since 2014.
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>>539007494
>Just make it so Russians get no fuel or oil exports
This is wildly beyond Ukraine's capabilities.
>until they go back
Russia is fighting a defensive war for the existence of Slavs as an ethnicity. The rational course fo action from Russia is to keep the war as cost effective as possible but to escalate as far as needed to secure their existence. If Ukraine can actually, successfully turn the war against Russia, then you'll see Russia's million man standing army deployed and its nuclear arsenal fired and China will also join direct combat on their side.
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>>539015251
I think you just love dicks, by my above posts I am pretty objective.
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>>539015312
>This is wildly beyond Ukraine's capabilities.
No they're doing it right now lmao
>If Ukraine can actually, successfully turn the war against Russia, then you'll see Russia's million man standing army deployed and its nuclear arsenal fired and China will also join direct combat on their side.
LMFAO! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>539014998
(Fuck this spam filter)
facebook /watch/?v=3911227022505424&vanity=tamir.sejh

BTW, the prices on Ukraine are still at least 1.5x higher than in Russia.
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>>539015277
See >>539015226
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>>539015409
>facebook /watch/?v=3911227022505424&vanity=tamir.sejh
wtf is this babushka? i said post video
>>539015430
yeah but you didn't answer the question did you? why are their logistics so bad that they can't deliver the fuel their sitting on to the stations where it is needed?
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>>539015379
>>539007059
>>539007265
there is no scenario on planet earth ukraine EVER recovers "the 1991 borders"

none
not any, ever

Russia will NEVER run out of gas,
this is a fucking nato fever dream. its fucking absolutely insane propaganda niggerdom for the nafo summit that has come and gone already, another year passed of no one and nothing coming to save ukraine

you have fucking nigger nafo /k/ tranny aids if you think
>webm related
is actually some realistic outcome ever again
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>>539008441
>Because they don't have fuel.
You saw a video of long lines at gas stations a week and a half ago and concluded that China's top petrol supplier doesn't have fuel? Maybe stop getting your news from the Jews in DC who lie to you about literally everything.

>>539008441
>Ukrainians have fuel and Russians don't.
Europe and China both buy fuel from Russia. But they don't buy it from Ukraine. Why do you suppose this is?

>>539008753
>peeing into the further side of pool
Never heard this one before. Pretty good.
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>>539015553
>there is no scenario on planet earth ukraine EVER recovers "the 1991 borders"
no I explained it in OP: they don't get to have fuel until they completely leave Ukraine, 1991 borders. that's the scenario
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>>539015655
Russia doesn't export petrol to China fool. They banned all export it it. What a silly zigger lmao
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>>539015523
>wtf is this babushka? i said post video
Yes, I will be extracting the videos from YouTube and converting them for 4chang just for you, tranny. Wait a minute.
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>>539015523
It literally answers it, you may reread it at your leisure.
They've always sucked badly at logistics and as my answer touches on Ukrainians are adding their own mess to the Russian mess with their attacks.

But as i mentioned that is not likely to have long term consequences for a system so used to being dysfunctional anyway.

You Ukrainians still have trouble realising the world is much bigger than the two sides of your war and that most are unaligned to either.
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>>539015715
> YouTube
Facebook actually.
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>>539015715
no just post the youtube link you lying little subhuman slav
>>539015719
>They've always sucked badly at logistics
Why though. This is what I'm asking.
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>>539015553
>Russian Empire will NEVER-AAACK
>USSR will NEVER-AAACK
>Russian Federation will NEVER-AAACK
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>>539015656
You know how countries that dont have any oil get oil? They buy it from other countries, what do you suppose Russia might do to fix their problem? Kazakhstan is top 15 oil producers in the world for example and right next door to Russia
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>>539007059
>unless they can find a way to stop the drones.
Drop it. What is that fake shit is supposed to exist for ?
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>>539009075
They already done major industrial damage early on what left is the dispersed targets which is why they send drones everyday and why not so important for news focus. Also blowing things like bridges or dam in far distance is not easy thing when you didn't have air supremacy. They're quite resilient it would take like korean bunker buster missile to blow them up.
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>>539015777
I posted the Facebook link, you know, FB has videos too, you midwit shart.
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>>539007494
At a certain point you run out of people to fly those drones and people to run the factories making the drones and people to manage the infrastructure that powers the factories and so on.

Between a quarter to a third of Ukraine's pre-war population has fucked off since the invasion and isn't coming back. Its situation is unlikely to improve.
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>>539015814
>You know how countries that dont have any oil get oil? They buy it from other countries, what do you suppose Russia might do to fix their problem? Kazakhstan is top 15 oil producers in the world for example and right next door to Russia
Yeah, that's why I said I am not sure if it's critical.
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>>539015777
Why Russians historically suck at logistics?
I have no idea, it's just a conclusion based on observation, i figure that you as pseudo-Rusdians would know more about the "why" part, it's irrelevant to me.
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>>539015953
what a retard, in you country a food delivery is the most complex logistics. Do you realise the difference in distances?
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>>539015953
Why did nato lose to Russia is the real question? The answer is nato has no military
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>>539016055
We literally have the largest seaport in the western world in Rotterdam (to say nothing of our past global empire, we still have Carribean island colonies), so maybe you should rethink calling anybody else retarded.
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>>539016156
Well for all Ukraine's woeful performance they cannot claim that NATO showed up to help them in the flesh, their victories and their losses are both entirely their own.

Or do you wanna argue that the merchants win the wars rather than the armies fighting the war?
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>>539016159
yeah and russia need icebreakers for such shipping, and that is of you manage to deliver it to the seaside. Everything in Netherlands is no further than going to a holiday house for a weekend in Russia, and that is not a problem for anyone.
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>>539015894
I'm pretty sure its not critical, the russian military will be prioritized to get the fuel they need and domestic market will get fuel from other sources, even other countries if necessary
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>>539007059
>Is it possible for Ukraine to extort 1991 borders and reparations?
no
those borders came with the promise that they won't go full globohomo... which they did
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>>539016159
> seaport in the western world
BTW, it's not in the top 10 globally.
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>>539012312
>Sign a service contract.
This argument works for the Ukraine copers because UAF will take anyone and everyone. It doesn't work for the Russian side because they're still turning away volunteers who don't meet standards.

>>539012547
>I don't think they can cope with this scale of drone attacks.
Ukraine is able to sneak 8 of 200 drones through Russian AD about once a month, causing damage that takes a day to repair. Ukraine and the west do not have a way to scale drone production, let alone a plan to. Russia meanwhile is still scaling AD and drone production.
>It's not like Ukrainians will stop
A quarter of Ukraine took up arms and successfully rebelled against the foreign installed government. Of the remainder, more than half fled the country to avoid the war. Of that remainer, 2.4 million are dead and even more than that defected to Russia on the battlefield. Of those still in civilian life, their polling data overwhelmingly supports accepting Russia's terms and resuming the constitution instead of continuing the Jewish Tyrant's demographic project of replacing Ukrainians. Either Ukrainians will get their way and their country back and stop fighting Russia, or the Jew who hates them will get his way and Ukrainians will stop existing.
>It's not like Ukrainians will stop or there will be some huge breakthrough in anti-drone defense.
It's taking to the field later this year. China made a laser system that covers 360 degrees in a 5km radius with a lazer.
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>>539015814
That's fine. They can bomb the ships they import it with, and their power plants, and everything really. Just keep escalating it until they go back. Simple as.
>>539015863
>I posted the Facebook link
no you posting some weird non link and you know it
>>539015887
At some point...lol. Germans said the same about Russians in 1944.
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>>539016412
>some weird non link
You failed the IQ test. Which is not surprising.
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>>539016404
>It doesn't work for the Russian side because they're still turning away volunteers who don't meet standards.
Lmao
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>>539016159
>imagine bragging about ur roast beef pussy
having a seaport is like having AIDS anon
guess why many capitals (UK, Spain etc.) are inland
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>>539016441
It was a rhetorical question anyway love. I know how vranyo works.
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>>539016334
You are apparantly literally retarded because as large as Russia is it is still just one country, dwarfed by the world and even just by the seas we regularly traverse.

When Russia's Peter the Great needed to learn how to build ships that didn't suck he came to us, and even the soviets were still rather happy to pay for our decomissioned civilian boats at the height of the cold war.
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>>539016412
Russia and Kazakhstan are connected by a network of major oil pipelines which can transport about 72.5 million tons of oil per year
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>>539016395
I know, hence western world.
Genuine excellence has no need to inflate results, a foreign concept to both you and Ukraine.
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>>539016532
Of course you know the лaйз, you're american.
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>>539016519
Such a pity to hear of your poverty and irrelevance, do tell when you need something that doesn't suck (unless you want it to) since you're most likely getting it through us already anyway.
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>>539016604
lies is lozh
vranyo is something else
you know this, I know his, perhaps our American friend doesn't
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>>539016563
>Russia and Kazakhstan are connected by a network of major oil pipelines
why is he so mad then?
>>539016604
Dostoyevsky wrote a whole essay about vranyo. Not only you fags know about how you lie all the time.
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>>539016737
>Not only you fags know about how you lie all the time.
that's the point of vranyo lol
he knows that you know that he knows that you know that he's lying
him lying to your face is just a show of dominance
like anal rape in prison or the military
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>>539016706
>vranyo is something else
Retard.
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>>539016817
>him lying to your face is just a show of dominance
that only works on other russians though. non-russians don't interpret it as a dominance display but as amusing clown behavior. it's why Tokyo Rose was so popular amoung GIs in the Pacific.
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>>539016869
no use trying to hide it now, Alyosha
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>>539016271
Euros wont even fight to save their own country, not that they have a military but they could at least use their police to arrest criminiggers
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>>539015379
There were long lines gas stations a week and a half ago. That's not "Russia can no longer export fuel or have fuel right now."

>>539016271
>their victories and their losses are both entirely their own.
When Russia kills a patriot battery and the Americans operating it, that's a Ukrainian defeat. When a NATO staff officer plans an operation to fire sattelite guided storm shadows into Russian territory, that's a Ukrainian victory. Sadly, NATO never showed up to help Ukraine, like by providing all of their weapons systems and training and payroll for their military and deploying SOF and all their most advanced weaponry in the conflict.

>>539016412
>Ukraine can bomb all of Russia and destroy all their capabilities
So why haven't they?
>Germans said the same about Russians in 1944.
No, they didn't. The Germans sent a Hail Mary offensive because they knew a pre-emptive war was their only hope against the Soviet buildup massing on their border.

>>539016552
>Russia is it is still just one country, dwarfed by the world
Russia is in BRICS and allied to China, North Korea, and Iran. They have more than half of humanity and almost all of human manufacturing committed to their survival, and are allied to an array of states that America can't bully.
>When Russia's Peter the Great needed to learn how to build ships that didn't suck he came to us, and even the soviets were still rather happy to pay for our decomissioned civilian boats at the height of the cold war.
And when America wanted a space station it asked Russia how rockets work. Now that Roscosmos is pulling out of ISS, NASA can't even plan a decommissioning project, let alone keeping it in orbit. America is woefully behind Russia, China, and Iran in missile technology and production.
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>>539009097
>>539012279
it's because Ukraine gets everything from the EU, retards
have you not wondered why the Russkies have been bombing transformer stations since the start of the war or why they're bombing gas stations now?
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>>539016924
Why would we fight your wars for you nigger?
Had both of those slav retards had even a fraction of our intelligence millions of Ukies and Ruskies would have been alive today.

Letting you faggots die like in Gaza is the best victory, whether you're jew or muslim.
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>>539016890
>that only works on other russians though.
well, yes, one has to be in a position of power over the person he's lying to
>you spit in their face and they say "it's raining today"
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>>539016980
Last i looked we just train the Ukies to do the dying, calling them American won't make them American.

But apparantly you are of the opinion that the US won the eastern front for Russia during WW2...?
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>>539016737
If you want to believe in this narrative that Ukraine will win with these strikes its your prerogative but my opinion is that its probably not going to happen
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>>539007059
man i just want 1937 borders for the Fatherland :D
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>>539017124
You are the losers that wanted war with Russia, lmao now you lost whatcha gone do, cry?
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>>539007059
Russia has nuclear power plants and hyhyls are nowhere near taking out any significant amount of fuel.
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>>539007395
>million dead russians to take them?
Mutts actually believe this shit.
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>>539016980
Oh, didn't see your second bit.
Iran's a dying whiny dog, best Korea an entertaining retarded dig and China seems to have you on its leash and if we're actually counting you'll find they together are less than a quarter of humanity. So apologies for remaining uninoressed.

Ooh space travel, so useful that we went to the moon and never bothered again.
Maybe you coukd send a disassembled living dog to Venus or something kek.
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>>539015656
lmao, Russia will literally never run out of gas you insane nafo tranny faggot
your hormones are out of control on this one

>>539015782
meme flaggot nigger
just 15 or 16 more refinery fires and surely the Russian road rage will drive Putin out of office!!
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>>539017295
We literally have a memorandum of understanding explicitly denying any obligations to Ukraine, signed long before their retarded war.

The USA's deepstate wanted us involved and later fled here from Trump and sees the war as vital to their own survival, thus perpetuating it.

We for our part are cheaper off letting them bleed themselves, Russia and Ukraine to death rathet than getting genuinely involved on behalf of any side, though we're more than happy to provide lip services or use these as excuses to improve our own industries.
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>>539017205
>calling them American won't make them American.
Ukrainians do not operate Patriot batteries. The US has had SOF in Ukraine since before 2014. A significant portion of Ukraine's NCO corps and lower officers were American SOF who changed flag patches and moved to Ukrainian payroll. You can see these soldiers with American unit tattoos on Russia's telegram channels where they record the dead. It's a really bizarre cope to pretend that Ukraine is alone in this conflict. I understand it's important in your discord circle, but everyone who isn't socially obligated to participate in this lie sees you like a man in a dress.

>>539017205
>you are of the opinion that the US won the eastern front for Russia during WW2...?
Lend Lease was instrumental, as was American boots on the ground opening a Western front. As was British intelligence. If Germany had fought each of these nations alone one front at a time, they had a good chance of winning. Would you like to argue that the Soviet Union fought ALONE in WW2, without significant help from any other nation?

Likewise, the American campagin in Japan was mostly America, but the Soviets announcing that they would join is what made the Japanese capitulate to American occupation. The Soviets also provided significant material support, i.e. in the Doolittle Raid. They had a decisive role even though America did the work. Or would you like to claim that Japan was ONLY fighting America in WW2?
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>>539017540
Russia is only getting stronger. Stop poking the bear
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>>539007059
Is that a flamingo? Chug told me it's a vaporware...
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>>539007059
Hahahahahahaha no
Russia continues to advance on all fronts
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>>539017716
>eyebrow status: about to be raised
>glove status: coming off any day now
>bear nose status: about to be seen poking out of cave
total estimated time: two weeks
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>>539017716
*Poke poke poke poke poke...*
Couldn't quite hear you over Israel and the US casually savaging your Iranian "ally", so great to have this many popcorn spectator wars in which we can win by doing exactly nothing.

Seriously you weren't a convincing enough threat to rally us to Ukraine's defense and are only worse now.
If you're gonna go "Rawr i erm burrr!" go do that at Ukraine in a way that finally manages something decisive in that stale and pointless forever war.

Because you need our stuff and we'd be better off with cheaper fuel, so if the infantile bullshit could be stopped then that would be great.
And no, we're not intervening on your behalf against Ukraind, nor would we do so for them against you.
Fight your own wars.
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>>539017394
>Iran is dying
Iran defeated the US and is now a regional power. If you disagree, then you're welcome to try running the Hormuz with your transponder off and the entire American navy protecting you.
>Best Korea
You're forgetting that America tried to bully them recently and got BTFO faster than in Yemen.
>China seems to have you on its leash
That's true no matter which country you're accusing me of being in. Donald Trump publicly announced Taiwan is China. The US doesn't attempt to stop Chinese flagged vessels running its blockades in Venezuela or Oman.
>if we're actually counting you'll find they together are less than a quarter of humanity.
BRICS, just the countries in the acronym, is 40% of human population. The total member states account for 55%.
>we went to the moon and never bothered again
Neders never went to the moon. The US has been a little more than ten times and is planning another series of missions there. Low Earth Orbit infrastructure is a critical aspect of modern life. Rocketry is a critical component of why North Korea, Iran, and Yemen were able to remove the US from their waters and resist their aggression. Rocketry is decisive in modern warfare. You're retarded for not knowing this.
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>>539017658
Sure hunny, pretending to fight the master so you can lie to yourself about having trouble fighting just the dog.

>>539017658
No, merchants are a part of any succesful war effort, but to argue that they are the vital part is ridiculous; i could get you a million guns in a year easily.
I could not do the same for an army if a million men.

Good on you for knowing the soviet role in the pacific theatre, still that does not mean the japs fought the soviets in any relevant capacity.
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>>539017981
Im American and just objectively stating facts, Russia easily beat Ukraine and nato and now is bleeding the EU dry. Your economy is tanking as Russia grows stronger. Lmao Russia gained 10 million in population as their only casualties were convict rapists and thieves
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>>539018165
>Im American, my name is John Hamburger and I live in Ohio Oblast
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nafo trannies are absolutely fucking swarming right now
ukraine must be getting obliterated by missiles tonite
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>>539018255
You are a spic anchor baby named Pedro Gonzalez Gonzalez squatemalen subhuman
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Jesus this site is retarded. Its literally just uneducated people and bots spamming propaganda. Russia lost this war the second that they failed to take kyiv in 3 days. All they Will ever be left with is a phyrric victory, if they even manage that. Ruskies trying to deny that are bots or retards.

I love seeing the Nato hate. Its so blatantly retarded it borders insanity.

Right wingers and nationalists have shown the people of europe and other still sane nations, with this war, and trumps own wars and floundering, that their ideologies are trash and their supporters as Cuck bootlickers and retards. Led by shitty lies and finger pointing at (insert group of people here).

Finally, with the fucking pinnacle of this retardation, people are finally waking up to the insanity. Only good thing these niggers provided was proof that democracy, socialist democracy, peace, renewables and anti-hate as the way to good living standards and security.

As America rips its own guts out, as the russians, arab states, Israel show what nationalism brings. That placing any sort of trust and security in them is retarded.

Europe Will finally be free to lead the world again. And maybe eventually eradicate this retardation with socialism and education. Rightwingers and nationalists, kill yourselves.
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>>539018029
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Lmao, a regional power with no head regularly getting bombed with no serious capacity for retaliation anymore...? I know we're on /sandnigger/ but seriously mate, learn to see through the cope.

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As i said, entertaining retarded dog.
Its enmity is as dangerous as its friendship so it is a headache they will not mind having gifted to Russia and China.

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Oh right, because words are so relevant.
Talk is cheap and having visited China: It is a lot of talk, but its plumbing, both literal and metaphorical, reminds of India.
I like it, i like the Chinese peoples, but there's a reason they are always condemned to focussing on themselves.
Russia however is a true dependant bordering it by now, even the debt-trapped niggers in Africa are freeer from its influence.

Got bored, didn't read further, sorry not sorry because you haven't produced anything i haven't heard before yet.
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>>539018165
Ah, easily beat it for... five years in a row now?
Finnish up if you want to be able to be taken seriously.

Last i looked we literally lost no men in that war, our primary losses are through retarded self-imposed sanctions which we regularly break anyway since only the US had somewhat serious capacity to enforce them, and they stopped caring.
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Well, at least you realize fuel is precious. Water the most precious, food next, shelter important but fuel is very precious commodity. Anyone that says it should be cheap should be slapped to reason.
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>>539018603
Cheap fuel means cheaper everything else, and fortunately we slap harder.
So park those green muslim-sparing convictions deep in your own asshole and take respectable distance from the black gold.
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>>539018812
>blows up the gas pipeline bringing cheap energy
>shuts down their nuclear reactors

Lmao yurotards neutered theyselves and destroyed their economy, niw they get to genocide their white population losing to russ
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>>539007059
There are only 20 million Ukrainians left under their control out of about 40 at the start.
They'll be lucky to not just get slowly reabsorb back into Russia like Belarus.
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>>539015037
Why did all those "ethnic Russians" flee Russia's "liberation", now that Russia is occupying those regions, since they were such huge fans of Jewtin's regime? Here are some "liberated" Russian speaking Ukrainian former cities by the way!
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>>539018974
We can't claim credit for American/deepstate sabotage, but yeah the green islam coddling retards here have always been a huge detriment, but big as Germany is Germany is not Europe anymore than big Russia is the world.
Only they made mistakes *that* big.

And Russia is mostly irrelevant to the problem of islam in Europe, our tolerance of islam is part of the problem but the big thing is the lacking enmity with islam.

All still quite irrelevant to the Russo-Ukrainian war we have not lost a single soldier to though.
Which is not a bad score considering that there are millions dead and many more wounded, rather than in that hunting-trip-pretending-to-be-a-war in Iran where like dozens of people died and then a bunch of sandniggers.
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> 1991 borders
Isn't it fucking hilarious how all these first worldies and their minions are so obsessed about administrative internal Soviet borders wantonly drawn by fat old communist gensecs?
Absolute madness.
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>>539016653
>imagine living in rotterdam instead of the hague or the tons of great dutch cities far from the coast
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>>539019304
The Hague is quite close to the cost, as are most. But yeah Rotterdam is ugly seems to suck to live in, but it's great to have nearby-ish.

And that's the great thing: Most of this country is nearby-ish to Rotterdam butisn't Rotterdam
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>>539019297
Go die to a drone you vodka soaked retard nigger
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>>539019438
> Flaggot exploded
Chill, Mykolaus.
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>>539019297
Mate you're fighting America's deepstate globalist remnants and Ukrainians, not us.
And given how you are still fighting as you are after five years you should probably be thankful for that.

Now don't die too much since you need enough men to harvest raspberries we want to buy from you.
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>>539018812
I chortle heartily.
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>>539019595
As you do, while still fighting and bleeding to enable the flow of black gold as i requested.

Good job in Venezuela btw, we'll see what the end result of your squishing of Iran will be but i appreciate the intent there too.



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