so... uh... everyone has been distracted from the Ukraine war but Russia is less than 10 miles from Kramatorsk and Slaviansk now.if they take them, do they declare victory and end offensive operations or do they try to go for Zaporizhia too? Does anyone even care?
Ukraine can make their economy implode with drone strikes and demand literally whatever they want for peace, including massive reparations. This toenail growth paced meatgrind shit is 2025 shit. Russia needs to stop the drones or all is lost and Putin (or whomever replaces him) will have to fly to Kiev to sign the humiliation in person.
>>539009040No one cares about this bombed-out backwater.
>>539009040>less than 10 miles from Kramatorsk and Slaviansk now.*waves hand palm facing down*>It's just a tiny hamlet with no importance
>>539009189has any of their spectacular strikes actually done anything to stop Russia's advance?
>>539009189It's not physically possible to stop infinite drone spam by only defensive means. The only way to stop the drone spam is to attack Ukraine's suppliers.
>>539009331Oh yeah for sure.>>539009332>The only way to stop the drone spam is to attack Ukraine's suppliers.So why doesn't Putin do that?
>>539009040what is happening?we need spy reports
>>539009040>if they take them, do they declare victory and end offensive operationsThat might have worked a year and a half ago, but now that ukraine can dick with their economy with long range drones, the prospect of just turtling up and wait for ukraine to give up seems distant. They might shift to trying to erode support from europe, or do gay hybrid shit to try to make europe hoard its weapons fearing an outbreak of war.
>>539009040I'm certain that the rubble will look very impressive when the soviet flag waves above it. In any case, we absolutely should increase our support for the sole reason that it kills russians and other assorted third worlders.
>>539009503>>539009385What I'm asking is if Russia were to take the two cities, would they stop advancing and switch to pure defense or keep going?
>>539009040You still have Bidno Bakhmut on your map, which was captured in May 2023. Kys
>>539009040wtf is with Stinky? It feels like Zelensky realizes importance of that place
>>539009040Russia isn't even in Kostiantynivka yet.That is our strongest defense belt.Budanov had that fortress belt built 2 years back and it's impenetrable by ziggers. We have 90 drone operators per mile of defense line. The pidors can't even cross it.
>>539009571I don't know. Why are you asking me instead of someone who would know what the Russian command would do?
>>539009621>he doesn't knowThe battle of all battles is soon to begin... the battle for stinky will decide the fate of all of europe. >>539009664I'm asking /pol/ generally, not specifically just you
>>539009664but they told it many times. So far they have been doing exactly what they say.
>>539009754How would /pol/ know what the Russian command would do in a hypothetical situation?
>>539009773Told what many times ESL bro? The other anon is asking so tell him instead of me.
>>539009786stop pretending to be retarded
>>539009822Well most everyone here thought the CIA glowies were lying when they were telling the world Russia was going to invade Ukraine back in 2022...remember? So /pol/ isn't really the place to ask when it comes to such questions is it?
>>539009964Russia was telling its going to invade for 8 years.
>>539009040>stupid retards this war is not about territory>brag everytime a minor farmland is gainedSo which one is it.
>>539009040Ukies retreated from Bakhmut in November 2023>2.5 years to move 25 km (largely empty land)>2.5 years for over 1,000,000 casualties btw>2nd army in the worldEmbarrassing. You should kill yourself for simping for such losers lmao
>>539011348people will post shit like this as if it cost ukraine nothing. they don't care about ukraine
>>539010390>>539011348why does this war make people seethe so much? I dont' have a side, I don't care emotionally about the latest Eurasian shithole shitflinging. I'm asking a question ffs
>>539009040They're not going to stop at some line, dumbshit. They will keep going until The Ukraine surrenders or fails to exist. I hope you understand this properly, but if Russia takes 20 years to conquer The Ukraine, and wins, they are actually doing better than the USA did in Afghanistan, where we got routed and had to panic and flee and lose a lot of people, both military and local assets, and leave behind a medium-sized army which was absconded with by numerous nations.Just kick back, relax, and enjoy the ride. The next stage is nuclear if the EU doesn't stop, and then the New Europeans will cause so much trouble that there won't even be any thought of retaliation against Russia let alone massing a force to counter them as they make their way eastward all the way to Germany again.This time they won't be letting it go in future. And this is the future that was chosen, there is really no going back now. Thankfully, if you read your RAND reports, you'll know that the US won't nuke Russia no matter what, because we don't want to be destroyed. In the long term it will probably be better for most of Europe, ironically, than the current EUSSR regime that's killing and replacing them.
>>539011602I'm not seething, I am bewildered that people take sides in this kike war, however I like to poke at flags.
>>539011643>I am bewildered that people take sides in this kike warAh, same. I misread your post. I'm just interested in geopolitics and warfare.
>>539009189Putin will destroy military targets in Europe which produce the ready-made components such as engines and flight management computers before he allows Russia to implode, it'll be this year probably when he starts doing that, next year at the latest.These pipsqueak NAFO nations are actually beefing with the world's largest, and most credible nuclear power in terms of number of bombs, new-ness of delivery vehicles, etc. When it happens you're going to whine and scream and kick your lil feet so hard, your face will be so so red, but we here at /pol/ will be ready to tole-you-so.
>>539009040If they don t take Odessa, they lost.
>>539011666Checked, Satan, I was too but these days I like to research ancient history more.
>>539009331Not at all.
>>539009189>Ukraine can make their economy implode with drone strikes and demand literally whatever they want for peace, including massive reparationsWhy don't they do that?
>>539011754For me, it's so called "pre history", that's the real crazy shit. >>539011750From what I know Russia wants the 4 oblasts and I can't imagine they go for too much outside them besides the little incursions across their border.
>>539011794>that's the joke
>>539011834>For me, it's so called "pre history", that's the real crazy shit.Why? It's people without language resembling ours throwing spears at each other, what draws you to it? I feel off everytime I see autists debating about Corded Ware, CHG/WHG and all that kind of shit.
>>539011348>largely empty landLiterally fortified and swarming with drones making vehicles largely obsolete. Neither side has it easy out there.
>>539009331Nope Russia has been steamrolling and blitzkrieging across Ukraine for 5 years straight. The winning never stops
>>539009040Here's their progress on that part of the front from April 2025 to May of this year>>539009964The Russians have been warning the US to knock it off where Ukraine is concerned since Bush announced they'd join NATO in 2008. 2022 was people going>nothing ever happensthe mutts weren't revealing some secret knowledge to the world, just that their endless provocations were finally bearing fruit
>>539009040Another 3 sks and Russia will win
>>539010329>telling>toldhello esl>>539012185>The Russians have been warning the US to knock it off where Ukraine is concerned since Bush announced they'd join NATO in 2008I know but we don't take them seriously and their performance in the SMO shows why.
>>539009040A bigger story I think is that EU countries increased Russian LNG imports in the first half of 2026 when they're supposed to be completely done with imports in 2027. Like this cuck right here >>539012267
>>539011831The NAFOs dream that Ukraine will exist as some sort of mercenary-staffed drone launching pad indefinitely, and which can be used to wither away at Russia indefinitely no matter what. In fact they believe that Putin will nuke Ukraine, which wouldn't hurt their plan at all, as they already 'deniably' launch drones from the Baltic nations at Russia directly, these Baltic nations happy to engage in the odd failed psyop now and then depicting a Ukrainian drone smashing into a building. In truth the Russians have already said they know NATO is shooting weapons directly from NATO territory and NATO aircraft at Russian ships, troops, economic, and infrastructure projects. The Russians will tire of this charade sooner than later, they are already weary and have said so, and simply start shooting at NATO.The European public and their pedovore cannibal weirdo oligarchy can't imagine a world where this would happen, they firmly believe the US will carpet nuke Russia and in turn be carpet nuked if it ever happened, thus taking out their only two real rivals. But it's stupid, if they simply went onto the RAND Corporation's web site and did like one hour of research they'd learn the US and Russia simply won't nuke each other for anything unless one nukes the other first.NATO is already ended in the most basic terms, the US is no longer doing the gayops-war with Russia, likely because they warned us if they fall, they're taking Europe AND the US with them. European faggits haven't gotten the message yet, clearly. LOL. LMAO even. They will, won't be long.
>>5390124465 more wall of texts on trutter and USA gold age starts bro
>>539012398>and their performance in the SMO shows why.Different type of War, USA goes in blasts all the critical infrastrucure, sets up a fortified base in enemy territory, extracts resources then leaves like they were never there.Russians go in and grind everything to dust including their own soldiers but the return is permanent occupation, both have their pros and cons
>>539009040They have been 10 miles from Kramatorsk/Slovyansk for like 5 years lmal
>>539012524Your cunt literally funds the supposed great terror hanging over Europe kek
>>539012589>Russians go in and grind everything to dust including their own soldiers but the return is permanent occupation, both have their pros and consCold War showed how much of it was permanent. If their economy goes to shit, the west will dictate the terms.
>>539009331nope, retards think that this is an rts game and if your food or energy gets halved that half of the citizens die but in reality people just adjust and dont even blame the government cause war is happening. Ukrainians, by attacking Russia and showing it as some win are actually showing that they are fucked and can't do anything on the battlefield so they are going for symbolic shit.
>>539012398Compared to what, your stellar performance in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Iran? I wouldn't cast aspersions while posting under that flag.
>>539009040>copestantiwka not takenhoholmaps lmao
>>539009040Nice! Only took them 5 fucking years
Notice the bots have nothing to say to my points because they can't be refuted.They will soon find out why most EU leaders are childless and gay or both.
>>539009040Stinky status?
>>539009040It doesn't stop until russia takes london, england
>>539012948>Notice the bots have nothing to say to my points because they can't be refuted.Stop talking to yourself anon.
>>539009754>Battle of StinkyImagine the smell...
>>539013103I'm going to be here to tole you so, anon. You'll be all like "muh bu-h-huhuh muh buddies got fried by Putin" and I'll be like, should have been a McWagie instead of a hired killer born on the losing side.No offense but you're a born loser. Are you an Afghanistan vet? At least the 'Nam guys only took less than a decade to get their shit pushed in, loser.Happy 250th!
Now, shoo, no more shilling. It's women's work, a man should be doing manly things. Get another full sleeve while you're at it lol.
>>539011918>It's people without language resembling ours throwing spears at each other, what draws you to it?the fact that's not at all true lmfao>>539013038>>539013164STINKY HOLDS!
>>539013506>the fact that's not at all true lmfao>pre written recordsSo what are the things you're reading about? This was before the Hittite kingdoms even.
>>539013695Gobekli Tepe shattered all of that. Also flood myths as being more than allegorical stories.
>>539009040Constantly losing territory means the ukranny is winning zigger!
>>539009040>less than 10 milesSo they'll be there in about 2 more years?
>>539012589What are the cons of the Russian strategy?>>539012829Correct, compared to that.>>539013854you don't have fuel
>>539013752Oh, that stuff, I am familiar with it. Not sure what to make of it. There's a thin line between humans might have been more organised and centralised earlier than we give us credit for and "there was a Atlantean civilisation spanning the globe and a continent of Lemuria bro". I am not an astronomer or a geologist so I can only trust other people on what they're saying.There is a lot of fishy stuff though, especially in Egyptian archeology and they did put up that stupid roof over Gobekli Teppe under "preservation" excuse (which I can understand, excavations can sometimes net too much shit) but the roof sucks ass and what stones it covers are more advanced than the modern roof itself at this point..
>>539009040>we have to take Donbass whole because it's most fortified position ukrs build for 8 years (somehow it's dangerous to Russia if hohols can defend themselves)>so we will storm those positions directly instead of attacking other 1000km of border>also also we will not kill evil demon Zelensky or any ukr leaders or generals >incidentally only generals that get assassinated are actual war generals that try to do anything, all billionaire generals are alive and wellthis is literally a slav extermination war
>>539014149Lemuria is a made up continent to theorize about lemur populations, Plato mentioned an ice age civilization that fell during the floods caused by a comet impact into the ice sheets that he called Atlantis. Two very different things. But I'm not saying I don't find ancient history interesting, I'm just saying the "pre history" (basically pre bronze age) is super interesting because of the mystery.
>>539014062>What are the cons of the Russian strategy?existential threat, permanently occupying land means you have a permanent enemy, Ukraine and Russians will be at each other's throats for generations. One of the pro's for USA is being able to leave and let the enemy get a "win", they usually are thankful in a weird way
>>539014317See I was thinking that Russia grinding everything to dust in territory they want to annex is a con. Why didn't you mention that one?
How far is the snail now? Did it cross poland?
>>539014379that's not a con at all, at War's end all that demolished land is prime real estate, they can rebuild it with modern standards
>>539014444why don't they demolish their own cities to make them prime real estate then?
>>539009040While everyone was distracted Russia moved the frontline another few inches West and now control 78% of the Donbas>Ukraine can make their economy implode with drone strikes and demand literally whatever they want for peace, including massive reparations.No they fucking can't retard,
>>539009040Yeah but they lost 100 million soldiers getting those and 500 000 tanks so who won really?
>>539012446>Russian LNGIf only we had a pipe it would not be needed to do the pricy LNG stuff. Of wait! The pipe is blocked by Zelenskike.
>>539014416It is like balding. You might not like it but can‘t do shit.
>>539015140lunch special?
>>539015199I mean they can blow up all their shipping and fuel refineries and etc. They can do that for sure you know what I'm saying?
>>539011602>as a jew, why don't I have a soul?
>>539014295This. It is about deleting the Ukraine which was 95% white before the SMO started.
>>539015239Or take some vitamines. The best solution is just to accept.
Russia shouldnt stop until they get to lisbon and liberate all of europe.
>>539009040>declare victoryKeep getting bombed>How could this be happening to me?Russia won't be keeping a single inch of Ukraine.
>>539015363chinks can't talk for shit. such a meek race
>>539009040>so... uh... everyone has been distracted from the ukraine war but Russia is less than 10 miles from Kramatorsk and Slaviansk now.>if they take them, do they declare victory and end offensive operations or do they try to go for Zaporizhia too?>Does anyone even care?these are cities ukraine doesnt even want.ukraine doesnt mind getting a half million men killed to LOSE those cities in a Russian meat grinderwhat matters most is smug>"benzin status??"nafo /k/ troon postingnothing about the real, actual war mattersthe only thing that matters is ukraine winning on line and in memesukraines victory is purely psychological
>>539009040Clement agrees with you and he's pro-ukrainian>Recently, Russian forces started to pressure Kramatorsk with infiltrations are flag raising west of the Donets Canal, which serves as the main fortification line in the region (white arrows west of the blue line).>Russians have been sighted in multiple villages there, but it is not yet critical, as they didn't consolidate their control there. >The risk is that they can secure crossing and threaten Kramatorsk from the East. >This situation remains the most difficult for Ukrainian forces, this is where they lost the biggest amount of territory this year. From Kostiantynivka to here is the main offensive action currently being taken by RussiansIt's funny how the exper think-tanks like the ISW just count the km2 ost or won. Not every area has the same value.
>>539009189> Too. Moar. Weaks.
>>539015421I want to be liberated.
>>539015735>Toolol
>>539015709Ok. So let's say Russia does somehow occupy the Donbass. What then? Nobody can answer this. The Ukrainians aren't just going to stop because Russia made it to some imaginary line on a map. What's the end game for Russia? A cope cage? Ukrainian weapons just keep getting more precise over longer range and more powerful. They'll still be knocking the shits out of Russia as they are now. .
>>539015709ISW's target audience is Beltway retards who don't know shit. What they say is neocon wishful thinking at absolute best. Their maps are decent though.
>>539012589Not lately, in the suck the PRC got the oil, Israel got the land and the USA got the bill for it all.
>>539015930Yeah that's my point. Just keep droning their refineries and shipping until they go back...completely. And also pay reparations. If they want to be able to refine and sell their oil, they need to pay a toll to Ukraine.
>>539011730>Putin will destroy military targets in Europe which produce the ready-made components such as engines and flight management computers before he allows Russia to implode, it'll be this year probably when he starts doing that, next year at the latest.>These pipsqueak NAFO nations are actually beefing with the world's largest, and most credible nuclear power in terms of number of bombs, new-ness of delivery vehicles, etc. When it happens you're going to whine and scream and kick your lil feet so hard, your face will be so so red, but we here at /pol/ will be ready to tole-you-so.cope
>>539015930Well if you read Brit Bong friend it looks like if you all keep it up you the Germans and French are going to be getting bombed here shortly and US will not do nun
>>539009040>nowWeren't they the same distance a year ago?
>>539009385bombing europe coult trigger ww3 if america decides to go in
>>539015930There was a recent short on the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty channel where Ukrainians confronted conscription officers in a town. It seemed like the whole community stood against them.I think the Ukrainian population is slowly getting fed up with the war. Also, their pool of military-age men isn't limitless.
>>539016398Guess Putin just has to cuck and Russians have to deal with no fuel then>>539016454>I think the Ukrainian population is slowly getting fed up with the war.I wonder how Russians in the fuel lines feel about the war. Do you wonder?
>>539016506Starting WW3 had to be weighed carefully. but I would have used nukes day one thought
>>539016506Every time anyone criticizes Ukraine you NAFOs always pull the waiting for fuel shill line as if that is comparable to 20 million people exiled and people kidnapped off the streets to fight.
>>539016225you can see on this map how over it is for them if Ukraine falls to the West. Expect them to fight until the end to get when they want here.
>>539016567We didn't elect Kamala so we're safe
>>539016189This is what russnigger shills don't understand. It takes two to end a war. Russhits don't just get to declare it's over and keep he rubble they took. Not that it matters, they won't be taking the Donbass anyway. They are spent.
>>539016567same one tactical 300 KT right in zelensky then congratulate Joe on his well deserved victory over trump
>>539009754Uh oh
>>539015935I you have the time, open the updates for the last cca 10 days and use search-phrases like "AI-altered.">https://understandingwar.org/research/?_product_line_filter=russian-offensive-campaign-assessmentFor example:July 5th>The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) may be spreading more artificial intelligence (AI)-altered footage to claim advances in Kostyantynivka>...likely AI-altered footage, to propagate claims of expansive Russian gains for informational effects.[38]https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-5-2026/July 7h>...and ISW assesses that the footage is likely to be AI-altered.[38]>The footage is consistent with a wider pattern of Russian sources publishing AI-altered footage to propagate claims of expansive Russian gains for informational effects.[39]https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-7-2026/But look at one of their more recents daily update:July 11th>>...indicating that Russian control of terrain in southwestern Kostyantynivka is further than ISW previously assessed.[40]https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-11-2026/ISW should be disbanded.
>>539016576Well I mean there are thousands of Russians seething in fuel lines now and farmers predicting famine if they can't get fuel for their combines.
>>539016268If Russia attacks Europe then Russia will be sent back to the stone age, be broken into easier to manage republics and will have it's resources raised for a century. Within about a month. Europe would tear through the russian lines in Ukraine like a hot knife through butter and be in Moscow in a week.
>>539016454A car got tipped over in Lviv. Worse happens after soccer matches every weekend in Europe.
>>539016848Sure buddy. History tell another story
>>539016935This isn't history dickhead.
>>539009503I guess they can just invest heavily in anti-air defense. With an end to offensive operations there will be money for that.
>>539016506>I wonder how Russians in the fuel lines feel about the war. Do you wonder?How many times in history have the Russians stood up against their leaders? Their whole national ethos is the ability to endure hardships and carry on.Ukraine has a much more democratic system, and Ukrainians are likely to rebel against their government much sooner than Russians would.
>>539016506>fuelWhy you come here and say all the cia+jew media talking points and don´t address any questions seriously? Why you do it?
>nafo shills literally gave up on frontline copesyeah ukraine is not gonna last. trying to hurt russia's economy four years in while you're actively losing ground and your only stated goal for not negotiating is the return to 1991 borders is complete nonsense. nafo has literally no explanation for how they will get the return of the territories they're actively losing by bombing refineries and making babushka wait at the pump. that's just gonna convince the civilian population the war is necessary. it's forcing putin to put more effort into his half-assed war effort.
>>539017145it's literally status quo now. calm your manboobs.
>>539016898>Worse happens after soccer matches every weekend in EuropeMoving the goal post.Rioting after a football match is expected in UK. More and more publicly shown and such brazen anti-war sentiment in Ukraine is something new.
>>539009040The war is going to end with pyrrhic victory for both sides.
>>539009040They could sit on the edge for a long time like they did in Kostyantynivka.
>>539016996Go ahead and Nigel I will be here to write the history books maybe Farage will be the next Napoleon! Good luck it probably is for the best.
>>539009754Live.ua maps seem to know what is going on at Dobropillya better than most.
>>539015930>What then?>Nobody can answer this.there wont be any ukrainian males left alive by that point you stupid niggerand london wont be able to shoot missiles at Russias refineries forever without consequence shit eater>>539017311you transexuals will never ever have your Crimean beach partyits bat shit insane that after 5 years of this war *NOW* you think youre getting your spring break party
>>539016898After this particular event the official version changed from "bussification is russian propaganda" to "uh, yeah, we do that but only to bad boys"
>>539009040Wait a second, is that Bakhmut on the bottom right? Judging by the distance you are 3 years early before making that post tranny.
>>539017036Russia had massive air defences. Ukraine spent two years destroying them systematically with drones. Russia cannot build air defences until the war is over. And even then not for some time. There is a massive hole in your plan. A number of them actually. In fact, it's just one hiluge hole with words floating in it.
>>539017145>while you're actively losing groundWhere is that happening? (Hint. It isn't)
>>539009571Putin said that he doesn't mind taking Novorossiya if the guise are up for it
>>539017693lol
>>539017346>is something newNo it isn't. There has always been outlying resistance to mobilisation and there always will be. That's just life.
>>539012185Azov held the Serebryansky forest area for a long time south of Kreminna and right by Bilohorivka. Russia had very little success there. Then last August Ukraine fucked up in the Pokrovsk direction and allowed an infiltration that went way up even past their newer defense lines to the east of Dobropillia. To take back control, Ukraine called the Ghostbusters and that's Azov. Azov did the job and Ukraine got control back and cleared the area. However, it meant the collapse of the defense line in the Serebryansky forest area. Soon Russia broke through Siversk, which had held for a long time, and moved about 30 kilometers west in a year. That is a pretty disastrous fuckup, in my book.
>>539009189>Ukraine can make their economy implode with drone strikesso russia will have to make the buffer zone bigger?
>>539017532Winter is coming. Both sides will go full-on until early autumn.Zelensky has has disbanded the 1 year old government yesterday in hopes of putting more keen warhawks in ministerial portfolios(like the Serhiy Koretskyi, the head of state oil and gas firm Naftogaz, who is ironically an oligarch)>https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-parliament-accepts-pm-svyrydenkos-resignation-2026-07-14/And Russia will throw a lot more soldiers into the meatgrinders.
>>539017592>there wont be any ukrainian males leftYou're a fucking idiot.
>>539017821>only 9 pbtidCome on old fart you can do better.Or maybe your senile hands are shaking so much that you can't type that fast?
>>539017844>so russia will have to make the buffer zone bigger?Ukie drones have 3400km range. Russia has managed to invade less than 100km in years. Good luck with that.
>>539017867There will be a Ukrainians offensive at Zapo in autumn. As soon as the weather is bad they will finish their bridge over the Dnipr.
>>539017717>Russia is selling air defence to Iran and Cuba>Russia cant produce air defenceCould you annoying shills just pick one and stick with it? Both cant be true...
What happened to Bielorussia? Didnt zelensky say he was going to bomb them?
>>539017946Nah. I'm just going to abandon thread. You lowlife., low intellect, social failures don't deserve my time, knowledge or insight. I've got better things to do. Enjoy your circle jerk faggots. You still lost.
>>539018101it was something about zelenksy being unhappy about military formations close to the border or something like that
>>539018112>got called out, leaves xD-100 izzat for you pajeet.
>>539011730He won't do shit.
>>539018112>I've got better things to do.Certainly
>>539017717>Russia had massive air defences.Russia is currently in the procces of moving their long-range AA from remote places to more frontline adjacent places.>Russia cannot build air defences until the war is overRussia currently produces about 25 to 30 Pantsir air defense systems per year.Also, fireteams are much more effective against drones, per Ukrainian experince>https://rsieu.com/how-fpv-drone-teams-really-work-lessons-from-ukraine-and-implications-for-european-forces/You just need a 4x4 platform, with a MMG/HMG and a thermal optic.
>>539017870>there wont be any ukrainian males left>You're a fucking idiot.but enough about you^
>>539018013>they will finish their bridge over the Dnipr.Kek.
Russian ZZ Stormtroopers (anti-Nazi) have been advancing continuously at a rate of 0.015km per month, they have reached 15km depth inside the Donbass region.They are about to launch operations to take the towns of Kopyansk, Pederastyiansk, Blyatansk, Burioanksyiovyansk, and the village of Novoprovostkyianksyiyanskiiiytiiyiyiyiyiyyyyyy total population 48 grannies.They have created a cauldron in the direction of Kovyanksyianskyivivlvivkieviansk.
>>539017821>There has always been outlying resistance to mobilisation and there always will beNot in such open public displays.Previously, there were only small, isolated pockets of opposition. If you had posted those videos on Reddit, you would have been banned as a Russian bot.Now, anti-war sentiment has become so widespread that even the mainstream media can't ignore it anymore.
>>539018286>Russia is currently in the procces of moving their long-range AA from remote places to more frontline adjacent places.no it is not. stop eating jew shit. Russian is expanding and updating its defense systems along all borders. especially remote ones.>Russia currently produces about 25 to 30 Pantsir air defense systems per year. no one knows. stop saying shit. Russians export over 300 Panzir systems each year.>Also, fireteams are much more effective against drones, per Ukrainian experincethatz explains those pedo freaks got splated all over Donbass for 4 years already.
>>539012134This. Russia already conquered Ukraine now they are doing NG+ mode with self imposed challenges. Truly remarkable.
>>539009189>I'm gonna visit our fellow UKRA-ACK!>Breaking News! Lindsay Graham suddenly death bc of climate change.
>>539018286>Russia is currently in the procces of moving their long-range AA from remote places to more frontline adjacent places.https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-air-defense-removal-arctic-satellite-photos-ukraine-war/33803628.html
>>539018606was it the russians that killed him?
>>539009040ooooh 10 miles? what is that in russian advancements? 3 more years?I am not saying they are not going to get there, but i am saying its going to take for fucking ever.
>>539018589>no it is not. stop eating jew shit. Russian is expanding and updating its defense systems along all borders. especially remote ones.https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-air-defense-removal-arctic-satellite-photos-ukraine-war/33803628.html>Russians export over 300 Panzir systems each yearTo whom? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir_missile_system
>>539017867It's bs and I could bet there will be no major breakthrough this year.Zelekike replaced people here and there to keep the illusion of progress for the EU. Reminder, Ukraine was said to meet about 80% of the requirements for the association agreement. We are talking about the association agreement from 2017, not the membership.Ruskies won't do shit until they're done with their "elections" in September. Once they're done with their soviet flavor of democracy, mobilization would take months.According to analytics, Ukros follow British plan which can be summarized as slow retreat from heavily defended positions while hammering the economy of the enemy with deep strikes.
>>539018744>https://www.rferl.org
>>539009189So why haven't they?Ah right they can't lmfao
>>539018474>PederastyianskHow far is this from Fuckavka?
>>539009040The EU wants to fight to the last Ukrainian. Russia cannot just declare victory. Russia has to liberate all of Ukraine. And maybe Poland and the Baltics to, if you decide to join the war on the Ukrainian side.
>>539009331Nope, they just look impressive but don't actually do lasting damage. The biggest problem is the sanctions as the Russian can't buy new parts for their refineries and have to buy cheaper Chinese knock offs or cannibalize their western refineries that are more efficient.
>>539015930>What then?Then they win because Ukraine cant fight indefinitely and literally has to borrow tens of billions just to be able to even pay their own soldiers salary
>>539018754lol. nope. Jewkrain now is NATOs colony like Cosovo. everything as government, social care, money printing, military, spy agencies and Jewlenskies pants is divided by NATO countries and is ruled from EU.Jewlensky is fucking own government figures so Chinese cant pull the dictature card and go berserk on NATO.
>>539018980Why would they have to buy cheap knockoffs? They can buy normal high quality parts, China doesn't sanction them like you.
>>539018754>I could bet there will be no major breakthrough this yearPossible, nobody has the crystal ball. But Konstantinovka will fall before the winter.>According to analytics, Ukros follow British plan which can be summarized as slow retreat from heavily defended positions while hammering the economy of the enemy with deep strikes.This only works in a total war if your opponent is economically isolated, like Germany was near the end.>Record-high Indian imports of Russian crude oil, paired with Russia’s first imports of refined Indian gasoline, indicate that Russia is effectively using India to partially recover Russia’s oil refinery capacity. >Russia was a substantial net exporter in every major fossil fuel category in 2023, but widespread Ukrainian strikes against Russian oil refineries have forced Russia to seek refined gasoline from external sources like India and China.[21]https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-1-2026/
>>539019053NATO doesn't give a fuck they will give the last Ukrainian left alive a billion dollars to keep fighting Russia if they have to.
>>53901860614 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXqLngYQqVc11 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnvF_EzYQ8Q10 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7u0y-iU82wThanks Lindsey for all the suffering you have caused.>>539018980>the Russian can't buy new parts for their refineriesfrefining is high tech. sooo difficult. Impossible. xDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCJ04-kKL0UYou just told us all, that you are retard who is here just to shill. Propably a pajeet, because oyou lack common knowledge and think refining is something extraordiray.
werent they in kiev 4 years ago?
>>539018872>PolandThey have no balls to pull it off. The best they can do is sabotage and minor provocations.The Baltic states are in worse position though.
>ITT russian shills last standremember shills, mass mob in Septemberyou will die in less than 3 monthsenjoy the fpv drone right in your face :)
>>539009331>has any of their spectacular strikes actually done anything to stop Russia's advance?It creates PR victories to get Ukraine over the line until the next NATO summit where they can beg for some more money
>>539012185-Not pictured: 900k Ukrainian wounded and dead.-Also not pictured: Another 2 million Ukrainians who fled the country, who will never return.-Knowing that Ukraine will never be a functional country ever again: Priceless.
btw. Jewlensky is with some freaks from EU and NATO in Kyiv right now? How are the bets on "Incidental Lindsey" tonight?https://youtu.be/holtpFfz-V4
>>539019129Are you even German? you are talking about a massive industrial complex built almost entirely on western manufactured parts. This isn't plug and play like a PC.
>>539019373>It creates PR victoriesi wonder why. none is believing this freak show anyway.. i would rather say they are stealing all those billions.
>>539019204Okay you are an actual fucking retard.
>>539018980I thought people weren't stupid enough to still do the whole "Russia relies on Europe" stick.Almost as laughable as geedeepee bro talking points.
>>539019501You unironically expect anything from a finnish mongoloid?
>>539016766>AI footageis that what your Soros funded ISW said?How can you even post that faggotry?
>>539019472>you are talking about a massive industrial complex built almost entirely on western manufactured parts. This isn't plug and play like a PC.Yes it is. You jsut stupid.>>539019501Still trying. You got caught low iq pajeet. Here:https://youtu.be/IYStD5G3_xQ?t=45Aahhahhahhah! You stupid.
>>539009040>if they take them, do they declare victory and end offensive operations or do they try to go for Zaporizhia too?They can't declare victory because Ukraine is just going to keep droning their infrastructure. They're gonna keep humiliating Putin, which forces him to continue feeding Russians into the meat grinder for incremental territorial gains. It's how Ukraine is going to win this war -- proving to Putin over and over and over again that territorial wars no longer make sense. Ukraine will keep Russia's economy sputtering and its graveyards full of fresh corpses until something breaks. It will.
>>539019198>This only works in a total warIt's not the logic of total war. It's logic of a regional conflict. It's supposed to make the prolonged war unprofitable and make the enemy willing to go the negotiation table.
>>539019637Pls, go and watch one video about refineries and how they work. Come back then, ok sugartits?
>>539019659Have you read the whole post?
>>539018980>biggest problem is the sanctions as the Russian can't buy new parts for their refineriesYou nafo troons keep saying that. Its not even remotely true. Russia makes everything they need you retarded faggot shill
>>539019472Is that what NAFO is preaching now? Russian refining is built almost entirely on western parts?
>>539016800Farms get fuel priority faggot shill.
>>539019610Of course they do those refineries took years to build and have a higher gdp than your entire country you can't just go down to your store and get new parts.
>>539018872>fight to the last Ukrainian.This is just a perversely dishonest Russian propaganda phrase. It's Russia that is committing genocide. Russians want to murder Ukrainians and have been doing it for four and a half years now. To claim anything else is dishonest. There is no outside power that forces Russians to murder Ukrainians. It's what they decided to do. It's not a new pattern of Russian behavior.
>>539019777The problem is to get parts for proprietary systems. Just because they make their own doesn't mean they have fitting parts for the western systems. Sooner or later they will have to replace them the rotting western shit with modern Chinese or Russian tech entirely. That's expensive.Fortunately the Ukrainians only aim for media victories. They rather blow up a cheap oil tank than a processing unit because the exploding tank looks more impressive for the cameras.
>>539019777>>539019786the catalytic crackers were entirely western built i dont know why you are even arguing about this maybe you are just thick or ignorant you can't just go down to the store and buy a new one.
>>539019947Never take your meds.
>>539016800>Russia has 145 million people>thousands>>539019848Why you still try? We all can see that you know nothing.>>539019947>Russia made Minsk 1 and 2 to prevent war. Minsk 3 was never an option.>muh russian are doing genocideBoth cant be true.Finnish people are not this stupid. You need to go back. Millions must go.
>>539019848I think both the Russians and Chinese can make them. You haven't provided a real reason to think otherwise.>>539019947>Russia is forcing us to let our Jewish dictator close the borders and throw our men into vans
>>539020018>than a processing unitThey have disabled multiple refineries, it's not a debate that they've hit key equipment in them.
>>539019786Yes they have been spreading that retarded narrative all summer. Even have a stupid Honeywell copypasta thats full of lies. Honeywell was doung a partnership at ONE refinery and they pulled out in 2022. Then they posted investments by Honeywell in Russia so I looked it up. Turns out Honeywell's refinery investment was minimal and it was other buisnesses like special materials.
>>539020030So what?Congrats on figuring out that catalytic crackers are not like your gaymer pc and cannot be bought at gaymestop. Want a participation trophy or something?
>>539019693It will not work on Russians. History shows time and time again, that they don't give a fuck in a sense that most other polities do.It was funny how the Western folk thought that Russia losing gazillions of soldier in human-wave attacks like in Bahkmut would have the same effect on Russian society as ,numbers of soldiers in costly assaults, such as in Bakhmut, would have the same effect on Russian society that it would have on a Western one. The literally don't give a fuck. "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic"-Stalin
>>539019089Why should it bother me? They buy our stuff. And yours. The only downside are their bandera wackos getting uppity, but look how quickly the kike midget got polite after a mild reprimand from Warsaw and Brussels.
>>539020018Yep, blowing up a storage tank doesn't actually do shit to the heart of the refinery and hitting the distillation towers can be patched up pretty quickly.it just looks good on camera so they get a media victory.
>>539020077Since Russia started this war and continues to prosecute it when it could easily just leave... yes, unironically. The draft is Russia's fault. The alternative is loss of national sovereignty. I'm not sure what the fuck you're even trying to argue. Oh, wait! You're arguing that it's Ukraine's fault for defending itself. I'm surprised people still even try using that line in the fifth year of the war.
>>539020125They have destroyed zero refineries faggot shill. You know each refinery has multiple production lines? Right troony?
>>539018980>The biggest problem is the sanctions>as the Russian can't buy new parts for their refineries and have to buy cheaper Chinese knock offs>The sanctions are forcing Russia to buy directly from China at a lower cost instead of buying Chinese goods with an American label at markup>Problemmkay
>>539009040>Does anyone even care?No.I mean seriously this war has been pointless and retarded from start to finish and could only have been improved by ending earlier.And no, we still do not care who wins.
>>539020136> catalytic crackers are not like your gaymer pc and cannot be boughtThis is a nafo troon.Russia has 4 companies that make them.People have been refining oil for a hundred years faggot.
>>539020142>They buy our stuff. And yours.It is your money that you lend to ukraine and they cant never pay it back to you. They are not "buying" anything.
>>539019472>western manufactured partsYou wouldn't happen to have a part number handy, would you? I could win some bets if you can show me something manufactured in the West.
>>539020138>It will not work on Russians. History shows time and time again, that they don't give a fuck in a sense that most other polities do.Of course they give a fuck. They're human beings. You're regurgitating a national myth, not a reasoned statement on human nature.
>>539020321Pipes. He is talking about pipes.
>>539009040>less than 10 miles from Kramatorsk and Slaviansk now.Holy shit! That means they will be there next year! Maybe they will take it before 2032?
>>539009040>Does anyone even care?lol no. they can go all the way to madrid for all i care
>>539020125It's not debatable that things have been hit, it is debatable that anything's been "disabled" as in permanently shut down. Nothing appears to have been. The Ukrainians are getting hits that get repaired so it's a stumbling block not some huge shift./pol/ and I'm sure plenty of other social media are however getting blitzed with Ukrainian, NAFO and Eglin posters desperate to push the narrative that the drones do represent a paradigm shift so don't forget about Ukraine! And make sure to vote for the next spending package and call your President to tell him you support Ukraine! Because if NATO doesn't get involved directly, everyone there is going to swing from a lamppost!
>>539020138It's not about the society, everybody knows they are buckbroken. Only morons could believe something would change in Russia because a lot of peasants from godforsaken shitholes returned home in a bodybag. It's about the accounting department and oligarchy.
>>539009189do ruzzoid actually have no nukes left or what this is too ridiculous
>>539020201>destroyedDisabled retardio.
>>539020043Weak comeback, but wouldn't expect anything more from russogooning debiles.>>539020054They are literally genociding Ukrainians though. You're just obfuscating because dishonesty is the Russian way. Russia has broken agreements it ratified itself long before the Minsks. The Minsks in themselves are a red herring and nothing but a part of the dishonest games Russia plays.>>539020077>sidestepsCool dance, Sergei. Russia needs your body. Stop hiding in Denmark.
>>539017107Why are they such a slave race?>>539017123>don´t address any questions seriously?Because I don't take you seriously.
>>539020392>, it is debatable that anything's been "disabled" as in permanently shut down.No it isn't, they have been disabled. They cannot operate at capacity.
>>539020419>Only morons could believe something would change in Russia because a lot of peasants from godforsaken shitholes returned home in a bodybagIt did, though. Russia's adventure in Afghanistan was a huge component in why the USSR fell. It's far from the only part of the picture, but it's a huge part of what finally made common people pissed enough to actually support something new.
>>539019947>This is just a perversely dishonest Russian propaganda phraseIt's a quote from the Jew who suspended the constitution and kidnaps Ukrainians off the street to force-march them through minefields.>Russians want to murder UkrainiansA quarter of Ukraine's population took up arms to rebel against Ukraine and join Russia. They had their own uniformed military to defend them from the Ukrainian armed forces, who were trying to genocide them in the Donbas. The largest cohort of refugees from Ukraine took refuge in Russia. Russia's Red Cross is currently caring for tens of thousands of Ukrainian war orphans. If Russia wanted them dead, they'd be dead, and we'd expect them to flee Russia for Ukrainian protection instead of fleeing Ukraine for Russian protection.>There is no outside power that forces Russians to murder Ukrainians.The Russian people are concerned about the ethnic project Zelenski has to remake Jewish Khazaria. They're probably also bothered by the ethnophage that was being developed by western bioweapons programs in Ukrainian labs. They were probably further antagonized when they saw European leaders posing next to maps of Russia broken up into rump states, or when those same leaders publicly said that Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 were only signed to trick Russia while preparing for a war. They may have also been upset by the heavy weapons investment the west made on their border. But I'm just guessing. I can't read the minds of all Russians like you can.
>>539020294It has nothing to do with aid packages. They get germoney from Brussels and use it to buy a lot of things from the neighboring countries. Like fuel. Every gas station bombed by ruskies means profits for Orlen.
>>539020392>those are traffic jams not queues >those are AI videos>we didn't need those refineries>it's only 0.03% of storage>it's a lot of smoke but little real damage>affected refineries are repaired within 48 hours>the refineries are down for regular summer maintenance>shortages happen only because people panic buy>it’s regular tourist season traffic
>>539020138>It was funny how the Western folk thought that Russia losing gazillions of soldier in human-wave attacks like in Bahkmut would have the same effect on Russian societyIt might have. That's why Russia used mercenaries and volunteer penal batallions instead of soldiers.
>>539020392>Nothing appears to have been.Have you seen the gas lines in Russia recently? Putin even admitted that it's a problem. Since Russia isn't exactly importing huge amounts of things right now, the gas on the Russian market is largely gas Russia has produced. If there's a gas shortage... it strongly implies Russia isn't producing enough gas, right?
>>539020521Why you come here and say all the cia+jew media talking points ? Why you do it?
>>539020616Nah, it's just panic buying.
>>539009040>only 15km away>bakhmut is 30km away>only halfway from bakhmut>2022 russian border is 40km awayK keep me posted
>>539020196>Since Russia started this war and continues to prosecute it when it could easily just leaveIf Russia didn't join the defense of the Donbas, 10 million ethnic Russians would have been genocided by the Jewish tyrant on Russia's border. If Russia didn't destroy the biolabs, the ethnophage they were developing against Russians could have been used. If Russia doesn't demilitarize the Ukraine, then one day a surprise attack agaisnt their hospitals and churches and schools will be launched by the west no differently from what the US does to every other country. So no, they can't just leave. They're fighting for their survival and incidentally to liberate Ukrainians from their imposed tyrant.
>>539020635To make you angry because you fled Russia for a white country like shitskins always do
>>539020706>They're fighting for their survival and incidentally to liberate Ukrainians from their imposed tyrant.How so? Let's say tomorrow Russia goes, "oh shit, sorry!" and withdraws. Do they just die immediately, or would it be extensively painful? If they just leave... lay out the case for what would happen which results in Russia's death, if you would be so kind.
>>539020706How miraculous it is that every time Russian soldiers turn up on foreign soil they just so happen to foil a perfidious attempt to kill millions of Russians. Makes you think.
>>539020537Russian refineries usually run at 60% retard shill. They just start up idle production lines. Zero refineries have been "disabled".You faggots said the exact same shit last summer.
>>539020597True. Putin has learned his lesson from Chechnya.Also, most of the soldiers who are killed are not ethnic Russians and come from remote, podunk regions. Their dirt-poor families or wives have more or less accepted their deaths because they receive relatively large compensation payments.
>>539020738>you are russian tactic when pointed outI can be what ever you want, but everybody here knows, that infront of your screen is a stupid person. Nothing will ever change that.
>>539021005>Russian refineries usually run at 60% retard shill. They just start up idle production linesI'm adding this to my list of>>539020569
>>539020569The entire "Russia Lost Simulator" propaganda is exactly the same as in 2024 - especially the strikes on oil tanks being described as refineries being destroyed.Nothing really happened over those two years other than the Ukrainian forced mobilization intensifying to keep the frontline manned while the Russians don't call up any reservists despite lossing more somehow.
>>539021083why don't you go back and sign a contract then?
>>539020569>the refineries are down for regular summer maintenance>shortages happen only because people panic buy>it’s regular tourist season trafficThis is 100% true faggot shill and you know it. This is just recyled propaganda from last summer.>no everything has just 1 reason!
>>539021123lmao pidor mad
>>539009189THis!!Russian economy will implode 2 to 3 weeksThey will never take Bakhmut!
>>539021123>This is 100% true faggot shillNo it's not.
>>539019685>They can't declare victory because ukraine is just going to keep droning their infrastructure. They're gonna keep humiliating Putin, which forces him to continue feeding Russians into the meat grinder for incremental territorial gains. It's how ukraine is going to win this war -- proving to Putin over and over and over again that territorial wars no longer make sense.HAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAlmao, nafo tranny delusions are surreal at this point>'we will humiliate and annoy Putin into victory and the 1991 borders will be ours again!!!"GOOOODFUCKINGLUCKWITHTHAT
>>539020322You underestimate their arrogance, cowardice and stupidity.People living in the 2 major pockets of civilization in Russia, Petersburg and Moscow, don't give a fuck about poorfags from rural areas getting brutally killed on front lines.They won't give a fuck until "recruiters" knock to their own door (but if they go for the neighbors, it would be still fine).
>>539021151Shudza offensive will be the last blow!
>>539021083>the same as 2024Brother, they’ve been saying this shit since February of 2022. It’s been wrong every single day for years on end now. The globohomo jew shilling was so bad, they had to do a rebrand and try to pretend they aren’t the same folks as the NAFO trannies
>>539021168To be fair it's hard to imagine any other reason Russia would ban refined oil exports.
>>539021062Ok so you tell us, when does Russia do thier scedualed maint?This is from last summer you sick fucking troonOh and there in increased demand in the summer.>https://www.hydrocarbonprocessing.com/news/2025/08/russias-idle-oil-refining-capacity-record-high-after-ukrainian-drone-attacks/>Damage from Ukrainian drone attacks and extensive planned maintenance have sent Russia's offline oil refining capacity to a record high in August, Reuters calculations show, though working sites are likely to spur output to help mitigate the impact.>Ukraine has stepped up its drone attacks on Russia's refineries and export infrastructure this month, striking Russia's biggest source of funding while the United States seeks to broker a peace deal between Moscow and Kyiv.>According to Reuters calculations, Russia's total offline primary oil refining capacity has reached a record monthly high of 6.4 million tons in August, up 65% from previous estimates based on maintenance plans.
>>539016848This would only be remotely possible if the US made most of its military available for support lmao eurofags would not be doing anything remotely close to this alone lol thanks for the laugh. Go eat your spotted dick now lol.
>>539009189At a certain point they get tired and just put five dollar nets up
>>539021278>August 2025 newsare you even trying, pidor shill?
>>539021168You faggots know its trueYet you keep lying>>539021278
>>539021307YesYou faggot shills said the exact same thing last year.So why didnt they run out of gas?
Considering that the ukraine would continue to attack Russia, it would seem Russia's only option would be to keep going until the attacks permanently cease.
>>539021376>You faggot shills said the exact same thing last year.you keep posting that August 2025 quote in every thread got any fresh info or nah?
>>539021061Okay but Russians don't have fuel right now and are sitting in huge lines and their economy is imploding because of it.
>>539021121You clearly don't have an answer because your position is weak.All the talk about unrecoverable damage to the Russian economy is the same wishful thinking we saw two years ago and two years ago before that.The astronomical casualties of Ukrainian conscripts are not recoverable - the women there have no kids and the young ones have fled. Also it makes the population there despise their regime for drafting all their men as a cherry on top.
>>539021385>it would seem Russia's only option would be to keep goingI was promised eyebrows, gloves, and nukeswill nothing come of that?
>>539021376>You faggot shills said the exact same thing last year.Because Ukraine has been targetting refineries for over a year and the cumulative damage adds up?
>>539021151I dunno how they're going to harvest the crops without fuel though...do you?
>>539020291kek why are you trooning out and inventing a new cope no one said they can't they just aren't a suitable replacement.
>>539021454>The astronomical casualties of Ukrainian conscripts are not recoverable - the women there have no kids and the young ones have fledonly tumbleweeds rolling across the empty steppe, yes
>>539020797Current administration in every European country wants to import niggers arabs and pajeets. EVERY SINGLE ONE. They are traitors and everybody who supports them should be in jail. Traitors dead, their minions in jail. All immigrants need to be deported. There is 0 white European male who wants more of this shit. So, everybody who are with globohomo agenda are shills/mentally ill. Like this "polish" rat here:>>539021485
>>539009040ukraine can still win, we just have to sacrifice 10 million holols, please do this.
>>539021083Give them some time. Sleepy Joe has forbidden any strikes on ruskie territory and blocked some weapon transfers out of cucked fear of "escalation". It took almost 3 years and the Orange Man back in the White House, to make Ukrainians do things properly.
>>539021475THIS! Ruzzia has run out of fuel and cant harvest crops, mass starvation within 1 to 2 weeksTheres no escape now, Putin is finished!
>>539021457Eyebrows at half mast, one glove still on.
>>539021406So you knew you were lyingSo why did you deny they do planned maint in the summer then?So you get caught being a lying cocksucker and this is your reply?Do you have no shame man?
>>539021254I chose 2024 specifically because muh drones and strikes on refineries happened then too.It was "totally over" for Russia back then too according to them until the dark and cold winter sobered up the Ukrainians back to reality.We're seeing the exact same cycle play out now.
>>539021555Seems like it if they have no fuel for their tractors and combines. Problems in Africa too since no Russian wheat exports.
>>539021581well at least has the bear's nose been seen sticking out of the cave entrance?or not even that yet?how long must we wait
>>539021591pajeets, trannies and jews have no shame.
>>539021454>your position is weakNigger, Poland is the 3rd army in NATO. Or 4th, with minimal difference between us and Germany, depending on the source.If ruskies chimp out in this direction, the Królewiec aka Kaliningrad changes its owner and Russia loses any access to Baltic Sea.
>>539021462Ok faggotThe Pentagon says you are fake and gay>The Pentagon has seen no evidence that Ukrainian strikes on Russian civilian infrastructure have reduced Moscow’s military capability, a senior defense official told American lawmakers on Wednesday.>Since January, Ukraine has launched over a dozen long-range attacks on Russian energy facilities, including oil depots and refineries, using kamikaze drones to damage several targets. Celeste Wallander, the US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, was asked about the tactics and Washington’s concerns regarding them, during a congressional hearing.>Responding to Representative Carlos Gimenez, the Pentagon official said that “so far” the approach did not seem to have affected the Russian military.>“The strikes that we have seen against Russian energy sources have not significantly altered Russia’s ability to prosecute the war,” she said.>“The evidence we’ve seen is that the Russians have been able to rapidly repair the facilities that were struck,” she added, when the Democratic representative from Florida asked whether such attacks could have a greater impact in the future.
>>539021519>If you're against Russia it means you're with globohomo!I hate direction brained retards so much
>>539021121>Go BackRussians aren't taking refuge in other countries. To the contrary, more than half of Ukrainians fled Ukraine, and the largest cohort of those fled to Russia.>They won't give a fuck until "recruiters" knock to their own doorRussia's forces in the SMO are all volunteer. Ukraine is the country with bussification and citizens literally suicide bombing recruiters.>>539021406>you keep posting that August 2025 quote in every threadDo you have a response for it? Why should we believe you now that you've been wrong about this 3 summers in a row?>>539021448>right now and are sitting in huge linesThat hasn't been true for a week. There were long lines over a week ago.
>>539021591you repost last year's article over and overignoring the last two months absolute wtfpwning of pidor oil infrastructurehave you no shame, "man"?
>>539021681>The Pentagon has seen no evidence that Ukrainian strikes on Russian civilian infrastructure have reduced Moscow’s military capability, a senior defense official told American lawmakers on Wednesday.https://www.rt.com/news/595746-ukraine-drone-attacks-pentagon/amp/RT and from April 2024. That's just sad man.
>>539021694>That hasn't been true for a week.How do you know? Are you in Russia posting on a VPN?
>>539021749next post: victorious news from 1945!Reichstag taken, Hitler dood (wat nou?)
>>539021705I only post it to counter your lies.Then after you get caught lying you keep lying.You will never be a womanHow does you being a pathetic faggot on the internet help ukraine?
Not what I said, dirtly little rat. I know you are mentally ill, but you dont need to go full retard."Current administration in every European country wants to import niggers arabs and pajeets. EVERY SINGLE ONE. They are traitors and everybody who supports them should be in jail. Traitors dead, their minions in jail. All immigrants need to be deported. There is 0 white European male who wants more of this shit. So, everybody who are with globohomo agenda are shills/mentally ill. Like this "polish" rat here: >>539021689 "
>>539021817how does getting paid 10 roubles per post help your budget?
>>539021528>Sleepy Joe has forbidden any strikes on ruskie territory and blocked some weapon transfers out of cucked fear of "escalation"That's just the excuse they came up with. The most intense situation Russian AD went through was when Western missiles were used in large numbers against Crimea when Biden was president. Destroying the Crimean bridge with the missiles was supposed to be the crown jewel of that campaign.Their ATACMS and Storm Shadows stockpiles just ran out before Russian interceptors did. In stark contrast to US air defense endurance against Iran.
>>539021480You're really gonna post in the 4/pol/ that Russia makes cats for nothing and no one and is entirely dependent on western technology? You sure you want to take that position? Give us a part number.>>539021672>Poland will fare better than Ukraine>Force currently has 200k personnelYour entire military is smaller than Russia's volunteer expeditionary force and worse equipped. You do not have sufficient AD, artillery, mine clearing equipment, missiles, or drones to enter this conflict.
>>539009189Implying that Russian's economy will somehow implode but ukraine's is totally fine despite constant air raids, half of their population fleeing, and not having electricity in much of the country.
>>539021749Whats pathetic is this congressional hearing was not reported by western media because it destroys Zekenskys propaganda. One rat faced kike is controlling our media.Unless you are saying there never was a hearing and its all fake?Is that your retarded premise faggot?
>>539011609>esl>Afghanistan >where we got routed and had to panic and flee and lose a lot of peopleWell yeah my desr russian friend, you getting buttbroken at Afghanistan eas funny too, remind us what happened to your country after running away like little bitches drom the afghan BVLLS?
>>539021817>only post it to counter your lies>Article is a year or more old and ignores the cumulative effect of repeatedly hitting refineries with high explosives.
>>539021616Absolutely! Putin is done, this time for real!We won, Reddit
>>539021935>Whats patheticIt's two years old faggot.
>>539021770>How do you know?Because the most recent video you faggots have is older than a week. Because all commenters who have been in Russia agree that this happened over a week ago. Because Russia would have an actual crisis with tangible results if the entire nation had been without gasoline for two weeks. The absence of such a crisis, the absence of any tangible evidence, and the absence of anyone on the ground complaining about this problem tells me that it's another delusion from The West's gaslighting campaign. Ask yourself why your positions align exclusively with ZOG.
>>539009964Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, retard.
>>539021891>Ukraine >fineLol what
>>539021946Aww how cute, the two discord faggots are sticking up for each other.
>>539021825I'm a different anon you dunce
>>539021969>Because the most recent video you faggots have is older than a weekwhile you quote a 2025 article that's "current"lol
>>539009754Stinky status????
>>539021874kek you really are a retarded. Siemens or MAN aren't going to tell Russia or you how to build replacement parts for their turbines inside those plants. You will have to replace the entire turbine with your own eventually and that isn't cheap. Just get over it and admit you were retarded instead of trooning out.
>>539021891By virtue of their entire logistical backbone being run from NATO countries which Russia is afraid to touch and the World Bank keeping their currency afloat, yes.
>>539021943>"Ukraine Supporter" reveals themself to be a seething misanthrope who just hates SlavsYou weren't able to answer his point. If Russia takes 20 years to win this war, that will still be a victory and a much better performance than the US in Afghanistan.
>>539021963Oh, so you want more abuse faggot?Ok here is the Pentagon from 2026Page 12 nafo troon>https://media.defense.gov/2026/May/18/2003933281/-1/-1/1/OAR_Q2_MAR2026_FINAL_508.PDF>Attacks inside Russia: Ukraine maintained its high pace of long-range unmanned aircraft attacks against Russian military targets, such as airfields, defense industrial facilities, and ammunition storage sites. However, the DIA assessed that Ukrainian strikes lacked the coordination, tempo, and concentration on critical Russian military infrastructure to have an operational or strategic impact on Russia’s ability to conduct military operations.56The DIA said that Ukraine continued its efforts to disrupt Russian refining capacity with the goal of degrading Russia’s ability to finance its war effort. However, these strikes did not substantially affect Russian energy production. Russia’s civilian population remained largely unimpacted by Ukrainian strikes this quarter.57 In January, Ukraine struck the Energia battery plant, Russia’s largest producer of batteries for unmanned aircraft, missiles, aviation and naval systems, and energy infrastructure. In February, Ukraine struck a Lukoil refinery in the Komi region, which reportedly set a new range record for the UAF at roughly 1,087 miles inside Russia.58
>>539021973>Russia invaded ukraine in 2014, retard.wrong /k/ikeukraine failed to ethnically cleanse its Russian speaking regions in pre ~2014 (Russia intervened) and the rest is one giant nato-ukroid offensive to "recapture the 1991 borders"....which has absolutely zero chance of ever happening ever
>>539022024>Twisting words, taking globohomos side. A rat. Traitor to your flag.
every fucking time I try to make a thread about Ukraine it devolves into a proxy fight between /ugh/ and /chug/
>>539014295>we have to take Donbass because it's fortified No, it's because donbass is ethnically russian and declared independence. >so we will storm these positions directly Because they are protecting their independence, yes. >also we will not kill enemy leaders or their generals Common practice for past 2000 years in Europe.>>539015337>slav extermination war>ukraine 95% whiteI dont think there has ever been a white Ukrainian.
>>539009189will those drone strikes get their cities back Lol
>>539022104Losing 200 times more people than America did in 20 years and taking 500 times longer to reach the occupation stage alone, let alone dealing with insurgencies is a "better performance" for you?
>>539022048You're mistaking me for another poster and also demonstrating a lack of comprehension. He pointed out that you've made this claim before and that it turned out not to be true. Midsummer of 2025 was the last time the claim was made and so he chose an article contemporary with it. If he chose an article from 2026 , it wouldn't have made his point, that the propaganda is being recycled from 2025. This is not at all related to the point I'm making about the lack of evidence for a supposed permanent fuel outage in Russia.
>>539021891They have fuel and russia doesn't though, that's the difference.>>539021950Looks like it yeah, I agree.>>539021969>Because the most recent video you faggots have is older than a week.I haven't posted any though
>>539021858The things you refer to were all about targets close to the border and front lines, not deep in Russian territory. We are talking about deep strikes you licorice brick brain. And don't forget Ukrainian army had to ask for permission to blow up anything outside of its territory.
>>539022210yeah. russia will have to leave ukraine if they want to have fuel
>>539022107>on critical Russian military infrastructure to have an>operational or strategic impact on Russia’s ability to conduct military operations.You really are retarded anon.
>>539022220>permanent fuel outage in Russiathat's a strawman argument nobody's making
>>539018013>entire war characterized by massive use of long range munitions>BridgeYeah
>>539022273>what is lacked?Ukrainian strikes LACKED thecoordination, tempo, and concentration on critical Russian military infrastructure to have an operational or strategic impact on Russia’s ability to conduct military operations.
>>539022273>Military infrastructureHe doesn't understand the point you are making he is just chimping out.If anything Ukraine should continue disrupting Russian oil refineries because his retard president keeps chimping out at Iran and sending the price of oil to the moon and back. Every delay will be a lost dollar that can't be used against them.
>>539022453>what is military infrastructureAre refineries 'military infrastructure'?
>>539022088>Russia can't operate refineries without Siemens or MAN>No, I won't provide evidence that Russia even uses western parts>No, I won't respond to the fact that Russia manufactures the parts in question>No, I won't acknowledge Chinese manufacturing as a solution>It must be the case that Russian fuel refining just doesn't existPine Gap is not sending their best.>>539022213>Losing 200 times more people than America didFirstly, American fatalities are misrecorded as suicides whenever possible to avoid paying out. This is why America's military has an insanely high suicide rate on paper. Secondly, America was fighting against a population of 40 million people who had no shoes, no foreign support, no air power or air defence, some WW1 rifles, and no formal military. Thirdly, and most importantly, America lost. Losing is worse performance than winning. You didn't comprehend this last part, which once again demonstrate an astounding lack of intellect.>and taking 500 times longer to reach the occupation stageRussia does not want to occupy Ukraine. It is explicitly their objective to avoid that. Every single peace agreement Russia has offered since 2022 has called for an independent Ukraine that has no Russian military presence.>let alone dealing with insurgenciesUkrainian insurgents fought for ten years to declare independence from Ukraine and then joined Russia. The insurgents joined the Russian military to fight against Ukraine. Ukrainians west of the Dniepr have literally suicide bombed TCC stations. The people are overwhelmingly in support of negotiating peace with Russia in all polling that Ukraine has done.
>>539022273Nice selective editingIs there no low you sick troons wont sink to?>However, the DIA assessed that Ukrainian strikes lacked the coordination, tempo, and concentration on critical Russian military infrastructure to have an operational or strategic impact on Russia’s ability to conduct military operations
>>539022173>"every time i make a thread on the most provocative topic on 4chan, it has shit posting in it"
>>539021985That's my point. Saying russia will collapse faster than ukraine while ukraine is getting raped is absurd.>>539022235Pentagon propaganda. Russia is very unlikely to lack gasoline or diesel anytime soon. Talk to a few Russians.
>>539022245Concentrating fire on a vital target like Crimea made sense given what they knew back then. They just lost against the Russian Air Defense there which they didn't expect and then ran out of missiles because their yearly production rates are low and the conflict in the Middle East started. The whole switch to attack Russia proper is exactly because their territory is too large to defend fully so you can have those drones slip through and hit some oil tanks.Isolating Crimea and hitting the actual Russian force in Ukraine is still the more sensible option to do something about parts of the Ukrainian Army being encircled and destroyed. Mass mobilization on the Ukrainian side is still the only answer to those one sided battles. The only problem about striking there is still the Russian AD defending them quite well.Also orange nigger isn't going to turn the tide you absolute fucking imbecile. If he could he would probably do that for his own army in Iran.
>>539022588Shut the fuck retard no one is saying that go argue with your hallucination in the mirror.
>>539022614>the most provocative topic on 4chanlol, that's not Ukraine anon. it's probably supporting Trump because all the lefty retards who never left after 2024 start frothing at the mouth with anger.
>>539022375>that's a strawman argument nobody's making>>539022258>>539020569Either the fuel outage is ongoing and continues at Ukraine's discretion, or it was temporary and ended. Which is it, dip?
>>539022088>what is turbine? muh russia cant turbine or oilrefinery.KEk.-100 izzat for beeing a retard. I know these are big words for you.¨but you dont need to be complete dumbass.
>>539022603>critical Russian military infrastructureRead, dumb nigger.
These pajeets are hillarious. You cant turbine. You cant do pipe. You cant do tank. Refinery hight tech. drone big boom many pipes broken. You need Siemens, Samsung. :D
>>539022687ukrainian bombings have not stopped, they're still ongoingfor now it's mostly pidor chattel who are affectedbut in time, the military will be as well we will see how this develops
>>539022709Can you explain what lacked means? I will redeem 100 izzat for you if you do so.
>>539022551>It says Ukrainians had an impact on military infrastructure>Okay, so it says they didn't, but let's redefine fuel refineries to not be military infrastructure>Okay so it is military infrastructure, but it's not critical military infrastructure, so the report can't be saying that attacks on fuel refineries were ineffectiveI'll summarize Scott Ritter's analysis: "Ukrainian drones go 'pop.' They don't go 'boom.' If you want to blow up a refinery, you need to go boom."
>>539022828Your exact post could have been made in early 2024.The difference between the Ukrainian male demographic and Russian infrastructure is that one can be quickly rebuilt.
>>539022892>redefine fuel refineries to not be military infrastructureFuel refineries are not military infrastructure.
>>539022588>Firstly, American fatalities are misrecorded as suicides whenever possible to avoid paying out.Even assuming that's true, Russian losses are several times that.>Secondly, America was fighting against a population of 40 million people who had no shoes, no foreign support, no air power or air defence, some WW1 rifles, and no formal military.Even accounting for that, America's K/D in the invasion phase is about 300 times betted than Russia's, whose invasion phase has not ended yet.>Thirdly, and most importantly, America lostAnd we don't yet know if Russia will win or lose, and at what cost. Bombed out land ain't necessarily worth millions of deaths.>Russia does not want to occupy Ukraine.Oh yes, they totally don't want to occupy Ukraine, which is why every Russian publication didn't draw big fat red arrows over all of Ukraine at the start of 2022 xD>The people are overwhelmingly in support of negotiating peace with Russia in all polling that Ukraine has done.Citation needed, polls I saw always showed an even split.
>>539022892>"Ukrainian drones go 'pop.' They don't go 'boom.' Ilmao activate>it's a lot of smoke but little real damagecope, stat!
>>539022709Yes during war military infrastructure is critical.Whats your point nafo troon?
>>539022551Russia is not going to collapse from anything other than a full scale nuclear exchange. That is it. And even then the definition of collapse is somewhat flexible because their relative recovery position would probably be better than ours. Quibbling over bullshit is a waste of energy. There is no strategic justification for anyone to engage in a full exchange. That includes Moscow. The only people trying to orchestrate this outcome are part of the European Union's vampiric aristocracy. Russia, China, and America have a mutual future which can genuinely forge a path that takes humanity to the stars. The sodden crowns of the old world are a bunch of evil shitbags who deserve to die. I have yet to hear a single argument which provides any rebuttal to this opinion. Please provide your opinion if you think I am wrong.
>>539022698Can you show me where i said Russia can't make turbines or are you just quoting yourself.
>>539022828You weren't arguing that Ukraine is continuing to bomb. You were arguing that Ukraine has suppressed Russian fuel refining. We're talking about fuel outages. Are they ongoing or not, dip? Because if they aren't, then you were wrong. Ukraine's ability to make a little drone go pop in Russia once a month to no effect is meaningless. Long lines at a gas station for one day per month are not meaningful.>we will see how this developsWe already saw. Long lines at some gas stations for a day. Ukraine still losing. Russia still winning without mobilizing its military.
>>539022941Military logistics require fuel retard
>>539022934>Ukrainian male demographicyes yes, all ukrainian males are dead or hidingall ukrainian women are in a brothel in Mannheimtumbleweeds roll across the empty steppes of Ukraine jews are preparing to relocate therethe Greater Khazaria plan proceeds
>>539023023It's not military infrastructure retard.
>>539023010>You were arguing that Ukraine has suppressed Russian fuel refiningno I never argued that reread the thread retard
>>539022941So now you are saying the military doesnt need fuelIts like we broke you
>>539023055Doesn't matter retard. The military cannot operate without fuel. Go back 80 years in time and tell the germans in 1945 that fuel is no big deal.
>>539022213>Losing 200 times more peopleLOL.9k * 200 = 1,8 millionCongratulations, you are a retard! :D 1,8 million dead! :D That is more that russian fighting army you dumb fuck.
>>539023070I don't even know how he got your flag confused with mine.
>>539022945>>539022945>Even assuming that's true, Russian losses are several times thatLol, wtf, everyone with half of a brain tell you for several years straight what the ukraine is losing at least 10 to 1, closer 15 to 1, they are literally 80iq savages which known for their meat wave tactic and fighting with slaves, where is Russia sends bombs the ukraine sends massive meat waves of cheap and expendable mutt cattle because for the urkaine human life has no value and Russian noble like personnel saving looks like idiotic thinkgs what white people do. Go ask any of pidors they will tell you about their 60k a month losses, most of them are dead. I know you are polish are thus a retarde mongoloid, but even you might be able to understand some of that.
>>539022088What if I told you all Siemens components and high tech come from China? don't ask me how I know, but without China Siemens is NO more.
>>539023164it makes no difference to him 10 roubles per post is 10 roubles
>>539023055How can you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously when you post stuff like this?
>>539023195Yes yes sasha, glorious red army has a 100 to 1 K/D ratio and stupid holhols attack fortified Russian positions in endless meatwaves, whatever makes you sleep better
>>539023127What's wrong can't find the quote? >>539023008 show me the post you lying little nigger.
>>539023341pls tell me more about the 1,8 million lost russian soldiers when their fighting army in ukraine is around 600k-800k
>>539023381>low izzat pajeet kvetchingrefinery so hard tech we need samsung :D
>>539022945>Bombed out land ain't necessarily worth4 years in you don't even know the basics of why the war started.>millions of deathsRussia has less than 400k deaths, and a significant portion are penal batallions or Chechen mercs.>we don't yet know if Russia will win or loseRussia has defeated the combined might of NATO without mobilizing their military or industry, and without calling on their alliance with China, while simultaneously providing support to Iran in their conflict. You've switched from Copium to Hopium.>polls I saw always showed an even split.If you're willing to concede this, then my point stands. Ukrainians are going to fight an insurgency in the Donbas against Russia if Ukrainians west of the Dniepr can't even agree to fight Russia more than 50%.>>539022945>Oh yes, they totally don't want to occupy UkraineEvery single peace agreement Russia has offered left Ukraine independent and unoccupied. This includes the deal Ukraine signed at the beginning of the war, which Russia immediately honored by withdrawing from the encirclement of Kiev.>every Russian publicationWhy are you taking mainstream media pundits' words as authoritative? This is why you believe so much dumb shit and don't know the basic facts of the conflict.
>>539023341>just ignore over a million of war graves, 500k lost in battle just officially and stats which teel you what Russui uses multitude amount of weaponsA couple of FABs alone sometimes kill more than entire ukranian army a day and Russia drops over a hundred of them a day. Also coprses tell real number too to a degree.But most importantly>all of that will go around brainwshed polish brain unregistered
The war will not end in a long time because all parties have a shared interest in seeing as much dead rusniggers as possible. Ukrainians want to kill russians because they hate them, and for russia this is a good opportunity to purge the weaker elements from their own society by sending them to the grinder. Thus, the motivations vary, but since everyone yearns the same there will be no stopping the TZD train.
>>539023398Please tell me how the Russian army is still at only 600-800k when Russia's been publically bragging about signing 40k contracts a month for the past few years and current Russian law prolongs all contracts indefinitely until the war ends
>>539023469>A couple of FABs alone sometimes kill more than entire ukranian army a day>day 1500 of 3 day special operation to put down rebel province>rebels are bombing empire infrastrucute causing fuel shortages pobeda da nu nahuy
>>539023008>Can you show me where i said Russia can't make turbinesSure, here you go.>>539020030>the catalytic crackers were entirely western built>>539021480>they just aren't a suitable replacement.>>539022088>Siemens or MAN aren't going to tell Russia or you how to build replacement parts for their turbines inside those plants.
>>539023449top kek you literally had no argument to make and resorted to making up lies XD I'll take your concession and your tears.
>>539023478>russia wants war. thats why they signed minsk one, minsk two and the peliminary peace agreament that ukros brokeälä ala retardiks, jookos kookos?
>>539023469>A couple of FABs alone sometimes kill more than entire ukranian army a dayThat's a very interesting claim given that fucking nobody has been grouping up people in more than a platoon anywhere at the frontline for the past few years precisely because of bombs and drones.
>>539023552None of this is me saying that they can't make their own turbines you are just thick and proved my point.
>>539023498Russia started with 120-180k.istead of telling, you say the 40k lie. Last time it was 30k, and i remember 20k too but this 40k is warhammer number.So you could not do it. What a surprise. xD Nobody believes you here, still you try. I know math is hard, but I didnt expect it to brake you. :D
>>539023724I mean>https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/01/2025/67937f679a7947ddcbeb9a3f?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fistories.media%2F
>>539023630>kek you really are a retarded.>Siemens or MAN aren't going to tell Russia or you how to build replacement parts for their turbines inside those plants.^implying russia cant or it is hard. You are idiot. Turbine is easy job, but you are pajeet, so every tech is difficult for you.-100 izzat, that was your last izat. now you should go out and meet with a train.
