I wanna do a test, one that's more accurate than the one that guy did on Twitter about fucking roadkill. The purpose of this thought experiment is for you to determine where your moral compass is anchored, where it originates.Imagine you are at a convenience store. There is a chocolate bar. If you steal it, no one will know. No one will care, the cops won't go after you. Nothing will happen to you if you steal the chocolate bar. Do you steal it?
>>539009351i do love those expensive chocolate bars...quite the moral conundrum fr nigga
>>539009351What color is the convenience store owner?
>>539009351100% steal it.My people were given the right to everything this earth has 2000 years ago.
No, because chocolate is disgusting and sweets in general are bad for you.
>>539009474^
>>539009502Israeli?
>>539009351i grew out of stealing candy when i was 7 years old
>>539009351depends. would I be stealing from thieves?
>>539009351no. i buy a nice dark ghiradelli for $4.50 and enjoy it.
>>539009351Humans have an innate biological revulsion towards sexual activities like incest and bestiality. You don't need morality to know it is wrong, your monkey brain that ran from wooly mammoths knows it is wrong.
Nah, i used to steal credit cards and max them when I was 13 lol it was just for fun a little klepto phase. My first like 3 smartphones were all stolen lol
>>539009351>nobody will know if you steal it>even if they do know, they don't careIs it really stealing, then?
>>539009635Explain India.
>>539009635Exactly, that's part of why I found that test stupid. Plus it was really easy to turn on the person asking it.
>>539009351No. I returned a mans wallet with all the cash still in it.
>>539009351No.Because even if I dont get in hot water for it.There is still damage to the store and to those who pay the difference now.This in a secondary step will lead to what we have today, shit behind glass instead of Korea style 24h unmaned stores where you can even pay with cash.>tl:DR: No because I am white.
>>539009351Chocolate? No. Computer parts? Yes.
Anon, something to be distracted with... perfect for a retard like me.But because too often I take shit literally... I worked n a giant dollar store and we had no cameras. We regularly had candy stolen and it was routine to write it off. Often unfortunately by workers.Never once did I take a thing, ever without paying. And, I could have, even with permission.Am I moral, well, I've been known to falter but not stealing per say (aside from a bank and drug dealers)! Even that, no more. lol
>>539009351Nope.There was a $20 bill on the floor in the entrance of a grocery store the other day and I just walked by it since it didn't belong to me.
>>539009674It is if they just gave up and know some leftshit judged will set you free in minutes anyway.>>539009701Well maybe just enough to build a new machine and then I only steal the SSD and GPU.But only if the store owwner is not white.
>>539009565Close but different. Khazar
>>539009351I don't steal it.>be my friend>someone asks him if he lost some money earlier>he wants to say yes>he doesn't know how much money was lost>figures they will ask him how much money was it and he'll get found a liar>he says no>the rest of the day and the following day all he can think about is the money someone found>he wants the money>craves it>like a wretched goblin of satan>drooling from the mouth at the prospect of receiving someone else's money they lose>evil and wretched>a putrid mind full of pustules of the devil's whims>he tells me this>I laugh>stop contacting him at allreminds me>one time he asks me what I would do if I found someone's money on the floor>I say wait and see if they come back for it>post on faceberg etc asking for the amount and it will be returned>he says he would just keep it>I get a strange feelingsometimes people are just degenerate kikeslaves who love money and you should discard them as a monkey flings shit. beyond hopeless.>what are you going to do all day?>"stare at the wall waiting for payday"It would be hilarious if it wasn't so evil and disgusting.
>>539009819Great now you know some fucking nigger used it for crack.You could have donated it.
>>539009697>>539009856>But only if the store owwner is not white.Ah, so your hesitance is conditional?>>539009819Good on you, but why did you leave it? What makes you believe that theft is bad?
>>539009351no
>>539009951I choose to live my life doing the right thing even though there are niggers out there doing the wrong thing. I won't change who I am because that are people that can't change their nature>>539010002>Good on you, but why did you leave it? What makes you believe that theft is bad?It's not mine. The person that dropped it might come back for it and need it.
>>539009351>fucking roadkillwhat's supposed to be wrong about that?
>>539009351My grandmother would grab the wooden spoonMy Mother would scold me and demand I tell staff myself and payMy entire family would tell me I've been raised to know much betterMost of all, even if nobody else knows I would know. I'm not starving and I don't require it to live, as such the answer is no. Even if i were starving I'd rather swallow my pride and go to a foodbank
>>539010051I don't think you understand, I wanna understand the root of where your ethics lie. Why is taking something that isn't yours wrong in your eyes?
>>539009351I don't like chocolate so no. Stealing is wrong regardless unless you're starving or in dire need. Another person may never know but you will and so will the observer behind your eyes.
>>539009351>Do you steal it?nothe material benefit of a bar of chocolate is nothing compared to the feeling of having become a nigger
>>539010002nah its just a checked out how much an 4tb 2.5" extern cost these days and shat bricks.But nah I am sadly way too honest and clumsy to steal.Even when it comes to gov institutions and I can get away with it not to pay/report something I still do like a little goy that I am.
>>539009351that has already been done and studied retard ophttp://www.bing.com/search?q=shopping+cart+theory
>>539009351>>539009351Wise men who know the past explain that a cultured field is the property of him who cut down the wood and cleared and ploughed it, as an antelope belongs to the first hunter who mortally wounds it.
>>539010221Not putting a cart back isn't wrong though, it's just lazy and bad practice.
>>539009351Mayne. Not a huge fan of chocolate. Is there anything else worth stealing?
Yes, I stealBecause fuck walmartfuck capitalistsfuck billionairesdieter schwarz push bnwo across europehe should be looted penniless
>>539010276mental nigger
>>539009351Is the convenience story a soulless chain, is it owned by Indians, is it run by an elderly white couple? In that order
>>539010276Do you even have a Walmart? The parking lot would be like half your country.
>>539010159What is stealing if not the most base form of coveting?There's no major dilemma either, if I were starving and stealing bread was the option, then stealing it would be. Hell doesn't exist. I'm not going to compromise my morals for something as simple and controllable as wanting.
>>539010159> Why is taking something that isn't yours wrong in your eyes?Annon are you a gypsy? are you going to tell us about the jesus nail?>>539010188This pretty much.I mean that reminds me of an anime (zom100)where the world is ending and MC still pays for his beer.Tbh at this point I would steal too, fuck it what the zombies think of me.
>>539009351>No one will carethats not how it works
>>539010303fuck off subhuman kike>>539010340yeah it's called lidl, maxima and rimi>>539010340>The parking lot would be like half your countryit is, and you're an ignorant retard
>>539009351yea but i steal for the thrill i have a problem
>>539010417>fuck off subhuman kikenēģeris
>steal the chocolate>glass cage goes up>price of chocolate doubles to pay for the glass and the wagie that has to unlock itgg, retards
>>539010363Nobody is talking about starvation.At this point its not a moral dilemma anymore is it? its basic lizard brain instinct.No the question is.You basic needs are met, do you get greedy at the expense of the group.
>>539010473Those aren't Walmart? And I'm the ignorant one...
>>539010491>polecuckkeep sucking nigger dicks
>>539010528>25 year old "news" wew lad
>>539010526you are ignorant because you don't know the area of latvia despite having internet with 2 click distance able to tell you itso yeah you are ignorant as fuckyou also don't know what is a supermarket chain that operates in 100 + locationshow old are you?you're either low iq brownoid or some dumb naive white zoomer
>>539009351i do it almost every day and im literally an a10 aryan unironically no larp
>>539010482Pro tip.Try stealing from a cartel, now if thats not thriling.>>539010499This one gets it.Now you cant steal anymore and have to pay double for everything, you just fuck yourself over for temporal minimum gain.
>>539010482what thrill? literally nothing can possibly happen to you as a consequence of stealing that chocolate bar
When I worked at a gas station like 30 years ago they had this points reward system and you could put in a million dollars on the POS machine and it would give you the points and then you cancel the transaction. When I was caught I blamed it on the manager and he got fired.
>>539010569it's way worse nowpoles worship christcuck niggers nowadays
>>539009351No, because I am White and crime is for niggers.
>>539010626idk my mom is a klepto and I think I got it from her. I have my own business so I make a good living its not about the money. Last week I walked into the Safeway bakery, got a cake, and just walked out. It just adds some spice to my life idk what to day.
>>539010587I'm ignorant because I don't know the square footage of a shitty baltic country nor their local grocery outlets? That's a pretty shitty bar no one would want to jump over.
>>539010594Sameput several breads into one plastic bag together with potato and weight it as potato
>>539010505The answer is no, I was pretty clear my man.
>>539009351Depends what kinda of chocolate bar it is, who owns and runs the store and their overall conduct, whether I can afford it without difficulty, but generally no, I'm not a retarded cleptomanic compulsively stealing worthless trash.
>>539010569still relevant.If polish sluts were like that back then, you can imagine what they are like today.TFW polack bitches are the more trad ones in Europe.
>>539010724yeah you're low iq, tech illiterate and dumb as fuckprobably posting from a phone and never even touched a computeryou're also dumb as fuck since you again don't know all supermarket chains operate similarly with inventory tracking software made by jewsa oracle company
>>539010762>Anon claims to not be a raccoonTiny hands typed this post
>>539009351No, because I'm not a nigger. The fact that no one knows doesnt matter
>>539010822Ok but do you feel the moon under your skin?
>>539010675>same tired old photos for yearsnothing new to work on?
>>539009474Subjective morality is just evil when it's convenient to you.
>>539010858good luck with shitskins, nigger
>>539010919this is new
>>539010960Please get angrier. Let's get you a cardiac event today, yes? That's probably why your fat ass is afraid of parking lots.
>>539010785>still relevant.no not really those whores are grandmas now lol get fresh material if you want to make a point
>>539009351>test>thought experimentWhat did you conclude from your thought experiment here?
No, because I'm German so I crave for order + I don't wanna be chubby.
>>539011035>cardiac eventI'm not fat nor old, boomerlmfao
>>539010992having this on your device tells me a lot about you, Pyderaš
>>539010928Morality isn't subjective, it is contextual. I can do things to my enemies, who are evil and threaten my existence, that I can not do to innocents. Whipping people for no reason is wrong. Driving moneychangers from the temple is righteous and just. If the store is owned by a jeet anything is permitted.
>>539009351No
No. Same as the trolley/shopping cart test.
>>539009351DependsAm I starving and pennyless, do I need that chocolate? I take itIn any other case, no I dont
>>539011119>crave for orderlmfao
>>539009819You do not understand how cash works?In principle it belongs to whoever is holding it, unless there is some kind of prior agreement, you're on the job, or it's actively taken from someone.Guess in the case of a supermarket you could make a case that it belongs to the supermarket.But even if someone comes running and claims that's his $20 dollar bill when you pick it up.. evidence? Why not pick it up earlier?
>>539010992>white fag didn't end up dead/robbed:/
>>539010826I don't live in the city (like raccoons do in this country).
>>539011120But you are angry. Let's increase that. Let your blood boil anon. Tell us how much you hate stuff. Do it with lots of swears and slurs. Be as negative as you possibly can. This way when you tuck yourself in tonight you can have nightmares of niggers and jews chasing you.
>>539011078A lot of you are racist and your ethics don't condemn wrongdoing against people you dislike.
>>539009351why would i steal a chocolate bar for absolutely no fucking reason??? when i go to a market, my first instinct isnt to steal, like a very certain minority would
What scenario does the chocolate bar exist within that it WOULD trigger a moral dilemma? Could the chocolate bar itself represent an innate immorality? Taking ownership or eating it could be immoral? What brand is the chocolate bar? Was the chocolate manufactured by racists?By christian morals taking it would violate one of the ten commandments. However, not if if it’s nobody’s, and you need it. Like everyone knows a corporation isn’t really a person, and the people who created it with their hands don’t fully benefit from its creation…it starts to become less immoral, especially if you are hungry and there is nothing else.There must be a benefit to someone taking it for it to be moral. Chocolate bars don’t typically have a moral purpose. Taking it and not eating it until you are starving might benefit society the most.Giving cash for it might benefit Israel so buying it is not good.So in conclusion it’s probably OK. It might be against the ten commandments or it might not be. It depends on the definition of stealing. Typically taking something in secret is stealing. If you don’t need it, its immoral. If you would need it, and you openly took it, and it was a corporation’s it would be OK. It’s free food. Free food is moral.
>>539009351That would honestly depend on timing. He would of course out of spite for YOUR society and all it's endless red tape but he also may choose to NOT do it too, if Chad Shoplifter happens to be in one of his periods of remission, promising himself he's gonna quit screwing around doing those sorts of things and on and on and on. That way he can do it again (but only if it never happens again).You'd be shocked to know that the soldier who kills in war and the murderer and shoplifter all use the exact same mental mechanisms to justify what they do>"n b4. "But in war it is justified to break laws!"So it is the same in the psyche of the shoplifter.Sure shoplifting does not have the same legitimacy or atmosphere as war but again, the same exact mental tricks and shortcuts are used.Because Chad never stole from another man; he stole from a faceless corporation that probably wants his race dead anyway and will certainly fuck him over with delight. Look, what you call, "antisocial conduct" is not some mental thing or Hollywood fictional shit, it's more of a necessary way of looking at the world. He looks to the future and never the past or OF COURSE there would be all kinds of regret and guilt. Better and much more efficient to just go ahead and, "jailbreak" your own psyche in these ways, gives ya much better insight to people and their odd motivations. It's an awesome thing in many ways. I've made TONS of cash. Sure in the hell beats working LP for Pinkerton for $7 an hour having to deal with niggers.
>>539011169Except you already admit you do not truly believe in innocence. You are willing to easily shift your context on one aspect of a person or people as it is convenient to do so, what is stopping you from shifting it further?
>>539009351Your morality is tethered in your lived experience and current environment, I was taught not to touch stuff that isn't mine so no I wouldn't take it, so long as I was in a comfortable position in life. A man who is well-off and well fed versus a man who is homeless and starving, both will likely respond differently even if they share a common upbringing. Morality is purely subjective, objectivity is even subjective for the simple fact that you observed it and it came into contact with your subjective filter, meaning it is impossible to separate the two.Them's the brakes, lad. Take it or leave it.
I steal products from brands I wish would dieI buy products from brands I likeneedless to say, a lot of kosher items are mysteriously missing from the grocery store
>>539009351>Imagine you are at a convenience store. There is a chocolate bar. If you steal it, no one will know. No one will care, the cops won't go after you. Nothing will happen to you if you steal the chocolate bar. Do you steal it?So anyways what color is the store owner?
>>539009474
>>539009351Really depends if,white or dark chocolate.
>>539009351In this scenario, what color am I?
>>539009351no, but not because I'm morally against stealing from corporations owned by kikes (I'm totally for bankrupting kikes). I'm just not a fatass that eats chocolate.
>>539009608just some jeets
>>539011628>Morality is purely subjectiveIf you're an atheist/materialist, I can see that. If I weren't Christian, I'd agree. But I am, and I believe there is a fixed, objective set of morals create by God Himself that you are obligated to follow.
>>539009351Depends. Is the store corporation owned, or a small private business?
>>539009351But I didn't steal the chocolate bar...
i cant eat chocolate
>>539009351Current me, noIf I was poor, yeah probably
>>539009351I steal the chocolate... but only if I want to, or have a reason to steal it.
>>539012895Nobody asked.The question is will you steal it.
>>539009921One day in high school I went to my buddies to play snooker, I was inferior to one of them and I still challenged him: Next time I'll win, I challenge you now, I bet 50€ I'll win. I lost.I gave him the money.5 minutes later I said:Fuck, man, you won fair and square, but can you give me my 50€s back, I kind of want them.He just laughed like a Chad and gave the money back to me.I appreciated the gesture deeply and we became best friends.
>>539009351If there's no chance of a negative effect to me from stealing that chocolate bar then I steal it
>>539011210You are confused and don't have air conditioning so I don't need to listen to you.
I don't eat candy or pastries. so no.
>>539009351I do not steal the chocolate bar. I'm very good at justifying things and talking myself into things, and I know that if I start with a chocolate bar, at what point does it become thousands of dollars of money or more? I speak from experience knowing myself committing crimes in the past. I have to set a direct "black or white, yes or no, do or don't" mentality.I want to be a good person, and I don't want to slip down that road again. I do not steal the chocolate bar.
>>539013430No, unlike you I actually took a 20€ bill to the lost-and-found office when I was a kid.>they essentially told me to fuck offBare cash itself doesn't leave a trail, so aside from situations where it's clear who it belongs to (and which potentially includes it being located on private property) it belongs to the person holding it, and this will often be difficult to dispute.
>>539009683See >>539009635>Humans
>>539009351No. If I were to steal it and enough people repeat my actions the store will shut down and there will be nowhere for me to buy chocolate bars, and I'd be directly responsible.Unless a nigger or jeet owns the store.
>>539013886Now hold on, the store still would close down and you still would be out of options to buy from.So if the store is run by jeets or niggs and I want them gone anyway and a guarantee that a white guy taks over then maybe.
>>539009351>Imagine you are at a convenience store. There is a chocolate bar. If you steal it, no one will know. No one will care, the cops won't go after you. Nothing will happen to you if you steal the chocolate bar. Do you steal it?This is genuinely the normal case every time you're in a convenience store. Most people don't steal it. More interestingly, with the rise of self-checkout, more people are choosing to steal. They just calculate it's still worth it because they lose the cost of an employee or 5. But what you should really zoom in on is that people choose to 'fool' the machine more than they do the 19 year old snotnosed retard at the register. Even though the theft is as easy in practice.People don't like to steal from people. They are slightly more inclined to steal from a machine. >>539013836>Bare cash itself doesn't leave a trail, so aside from situations where it's clear who it belongs toIt belongs to the person who comes to the lost and found asking for exactly 20 bucks that they lost of course. This is normal behavior here. Much like with the returning of shopping carts all these are just litmus test for how your society is doing.
>>539009351Even without get any punishment, a crime is a crime, so no. Why should I steal something I can buy? If I don't have money, I don't buy it. Simple as.
>>539014134Yes that was the gist of my post well done you fucking memeflag retard.
Yes, I would steal it. Free chocolate? Fuck yes.
>>539009351no because im not poor plus im tried many expensive chocos and theyre all shit. reese and bueno only
>>53900935195% chance it's a jeet working the register so only a retard wouldn't steal
>>539009351Why the fuck do you faggots post this stupid bullshit? After dozens of vapid trends like red button blue button or laurel yanni dresse, you don't learn anything. What use is a thought experiment when you're not capable of thought?
>>539014747No you fucking Island monkey you said you are worried that eventually the store goes broke and you cant buy shit anymore and then it doesnt matter who owns shit.
>>539009693Yea but how poor were you when you did this? If you were already cash rich enough then the social value you get to your image means your move might have actually been entirely selfish.
>>539009351>If you steal it, no one will know. No one will care, the cops won't go after you. Nothing will happen to you if you steal the chocolate bar.Your thought experiment is stupid. Because the way you present it you essentially arent committing a crime except by arbitrarily labeling it one.>No one will knowOkay so if i hold it up and say to the clerk as im walking out "Im stealing this"Do these conditions still also apply?>no one will care>the cops wont go after you>nothing will happen to youCan you see how it stops being a crime if no one is going to enforce the law or care if a crime is being committed? Its like working on the sabbath, it hasnt been concidered an enforced crime for decades now. So if i work on a sunday am i still committing a crime if no one is acknowledging it as such?
>>539009351No, It's still stealing and I'm not a nigger plus i can afford thousands of them if i wanted.
>>539015438dont work on the sabbath or wear mixed fabrics either you cuck.
>>539015292Fuck off ESL brownoid you are too retarded for English.
>>539015490Go away with your kike shenanigans
>>539009351100% steal if they have an ugly jeet at the register
>>539014427Hey dumbass. Ever stop to think about how many things you do that used to be considered crimes but no longer are?As OP presents the question the act is not a criminal offense if no one cares or will enforce the law.
>>539015565You are incapable of critical thinking.
Yeah you steal to help move stock along as that means people are workingSo stealing greases the wheels of capitalism you commie rat
>>539015606>>539015643>As OP presents the question the act is not a criminal offense if no one cares or will enforce the law.>Stealing somebodies labor >You are incapable of critical thinkingHow ironic
>>539015541What you expect, at this point its basically a dead language replaced by Arabic dialects and spanish.
>>539009351No because it would make me feel bad
>>539016418Keep coping and seething at me in that dead language you were forced to learn in order to get by shitjeet, lmao.
My answer depends on my age.There was a time where I was ok with it. These big ass companies make billions of dollars and have insurance anyways, right?As I've become older and I've watched our society turn into a low trust society and I can't even go to a city gas station without having to ask the man behind bullet proof glass to get me a candy bar...I've changed my mind. For society to move forward then everyone needs to play their part.So I'm with the muslims on this one. You steal and you lose your hand.
>>539009351Depends on the store. Is it a chain that donates to political causes/organizations that I hate? Yes. Is it a store run by jeets or some other form of brown? Yes. Is it a mom & pop operation? No. I regularly steal from Walmart but buy groceries from a little redneck grocery store in my neighborhood.
>>539009351Inventory shrinkage for every retailer is already priced in. It’s not a moral question, it’s a statistics one.
>>539016603According to the third world the first world has stolen several trillion in economic wealth from them.Do you want to be held accountable at the UN?
As long as there's someone out there with more wealth than me despite their lack of morality, I'm taking the candy bar.
>>539016524Fuck you paki, dont you have a cousine sister to fuck?
>>539016603>Boomer gets older and more financially secure and now wants to cut off young peoples handsTypical boomer switcheroo
>>539011551>what is stopping you from shifting it further?game theory optimization & evolutionary biology
>>539009635Look at india, africa and the middle east. Incest and beastiality is rampant there.
>>539009819I work at a grocery store and routinely the old fuck customers drop money. One time, it was a bank envelope with money in it. I could have taken it (maybe), but I just gave it to the manager.But you know for a fact that the old fucks probably never even realized they lost money and never came back for it. So the store just pocketed the money...
>>539009351No, I just habitually don't do that. Idk how exactly you would expect me to feel informed that nothing bad would happen. Its not like I can use a candy bar to improve anything. If you asked the same question with well defined oarameters about a large pile of cash, in the same sort of context where it is there among a shitton of equivilent piles of cash all owned by the same one rich person, maybe I would feel differently about that. Certainly the concenience store owner has enough candy bars, and might not miss one, but I dont give a shit about candy bars.
Yes I'm sure the store is already jewing me in multiple ways that exceed the value of the chocolate bar. It's just evening the odds like counting cards at blackjack.
>>539009351No, I wouldn't. I don't eat chocolate or any sugar. It's goyfeed. Your life becomes a lot better when you cut out sugar.
>>539009351no.it's honestly hard to justify it, seeing as stealing is often not only permitted by law, but often encouraged.weak example being the non-prosecution of petty theft, medium example is squatters rights, where government forces you to abandon your property to someone else, and strong example is modern corporate structure, where the most successful companies really are the ones who screw their customers the most despite this information being public knowledge.this world is evil enough as it is, don't be part of the problem.the most evil of entities have enough experience to protect themselves against their own evil (such as petty theft).good entities usually do not, and fail as a result.no should be the only correct answer.
>>539014362>It belongs to the person who comes to the lost and found asking for exactly 20 bucks that they lost of course.It really doesn't, especially where the bill itself is concerned - it's a different matter of owing someone 20 dollars, the bill is no longer his, but he might be entitled to the corresponding recompense, which can be fulfilled with another bill, or coins, or even bank transfer.And I doubt this ever happens, people asking for single bills they lost, and I think the lost-and-found office expects some degree of authentication of ownership, which is difficult with a bare money bill, unless you know the serial number, or that it's folded in some particular way, or something like that, because otherwise you have niggers asking for stuff that doesn't belong to them - not really any risk in that after all. There's one method though:>holding the bill (or other contentious object) for a week or two to see whether anybody else shows up wanting to claim it - if not the first one doing so may be legit, in the absence of all other proofIt's a different matter if there's a certain amount of cash in an envelope, for instance; not something you could guess,but most importantly: I doubt most people would even realize if they lost a 20 dollar bill. That's for poorfags who only have that single bill in their wallet, and those would precisely be the type to ask the lost-and-found for random shit they didn't actually lose.>it's the sort of thing George Floyd would have done had his IQ been 10 points higher>excuse me sir, I've lost a banana *dances*
