>“The Individual Ready Reserve, which stood at 700,000 in 1973 and 450,000 in 1994, now stands at 76,000. These numbers cannot fill the existing gaps in the active force, let alone any casualty replacement or expansion during a large-scale combat operation. The implication is that the 1970s concept of an all-volunteer force has outlived its shelf life and does not align with the current operating environment.”https://press.armywarcollege.edu/parameters/vol53/iss3/1/>The Russia-Ukraine War is exposing significant vulnerabilities in the Army’s strategic personnel depth and ability to withstand and replace casualties. Army theater medical planners may anticipate a sustained rate of roughly 3,600 casualties per day, ranging from those killed in action to those wounded in action or suffering disease or other non-battle injuries. With a 25 percent predicted replacement rate, the personnel system will require 800 new personnel each day. For context, the United States sustained about 50,000 casualties in two decades of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. In large-scale combat operations, the United States could experience that same number of casualties in two weeks.>Large-scale combat operations troop requirements may well require a reconceptualization of the 1970s and 1980s volunteer force and a move toward partial conscription.
>>539021303Not if you invade with ANTI-PERSONNEL DRONES.
>>539021303>Based on Ukraine, we may need more conscripts to march into artillery.Stellar strategic thinking from the brass.They are fighting last century's wars with the most flat and brain dead of strategies to have ever been developed to argue for why they should be given command over more assets.
>>539021815To saturate Kharg Island at 3 drones per person (≈60,000 drones, each 0.5 kg payload, 20 km range), the total cost would be $18–30 million USD.
>>539021303>3600 dead per day
>>539021815>Blockade Blockade>Toll Toll>Drone DroneGenius.
This is a zigger cope thread. You know what to do
>>539021908The complete kit for 60,000 drones at 0.5 kg each weighs ≈30,000 kg (30 metric tons). If you drop to 2 per person, you can comfortably guarantee 100k dead with a single C-5 Galaxy, in terms of direct anti-personnel drone usage with appropriate swarm intelligence operation(no mothership,multiband distributed intelligence). That’s without using it to target infrastructure that would act as a catalyst for multipliers.
>>539021303Based
>>539021908Why are you all caught up on kharg? It's a fuelling depot. It has no strategic value to invade and is primarily made up of industry workers. We will take it with an administrative flight out to change the paperwork process.The military assets there were already taken out months ago in preparation for taking Bushehr.
atp I don't careget on with it
>>539021303100% jew golem deaths of the jew foreign legion is for the best. no jew golems, no jew foreign legion to carry out jew agenda. The jew foreign legion doesn't do anything to defend the US anyway.
>>539022109Game theory 101, become the cancer instead of trying to counter.
>>539022336It’s just an easy benchmark to measure since it runs at a size of around 22km sq, which is roughly the drone range with some measure of extra duration taken for loitering.Basically a single (delivery system) can kill N amount of people in Y sq kilometers with anti-personnel drones.
>>539021815>>539021908>>539022191This is cope. If that was a viable option then we would’ve just done that instead of wasting billions per day and dragging things on this long.
>>539021303And you will be replaced by jeets
>>539021303Based. According to my calculations, there are ~340 million people in the US. Approximately 20% are Gen Z. Half of those are male and thus 34 million eligible for the draft. Eliminating 3600 Zoomers per day means we need the ground invasion to last for at least 9,444 days, or ~25 years to make sure we get all of them. I think this is doable, we were in Afghanistan for a similar amount of time. Obviously, we will need to update the draft regulations to continuously increase the ages that are eligible every year so that ONLY Gen Z males get exterminated.
>trying to force western conscripts to go die to fpv drones and artilleryWon't work. People have too much information. They wont go, knowing what awaits them. You cannot threaten them with anything worse than being turned into smoking meat paste while taking a shit.Russia cannot even find people to do it, so they take from prisons. Ukraine cannot find people to do it. Their front line military is totally depleted and remaining veterans refuse to be expendable, which is why the war has shifted into pure attrition and ranged infrastructure attacks.Nobody tolerates being turned into meat by drones. If you try to fight a war with conscription against drones you will lose fast or be killed by mutineers.
>>539022336It looks like this. [delivery system], begins dropping drones at height for saturation. The first that land form a hyper-lattice which maps everyone within a specific param, then after that is formed the telemetry routes to each nearest target after hitting critical infra that is mapped and identified(power, water, cooling, food, transportation)After you have frozen power water and transportation everyone pretty much stays in their castle (shelter in place)until they run out of food and water and die. If they try to exit a drone just routes to their position and blows up.A person can only walk around 20-40km per day maximum, so your lattice size can scale down to around 2km plus saturation after you’ve achieved mobility kills on everything.
>>539021303based. do it!
>>539022473This doesnt work. Iran tried it. Everyone on us military bases just hid in bunkers during drone attacks.Basically your idea relies upon your opposition having all of its forces stationed outside and totally exposed, which is never the case.We know what people will do if threatened by air, which is dig tunnels. So better get to work on death worm tunnel warfare drone also.
>>539021303when are you niggers going to learn that casualties aren't the same thing as deaths. Any injury is classified as a casualty of war. This isn't saying 3600 dead per day, it's saying several hundred dead per day with a few thousand injured. Obviously a ground invasion of Iran would be fucking insanity.
>>539022491I don’t think you understand what it means to kill 100,000 people.It is not a trivial decision made carelessly.
>>539021303(((3))) (((6)))666
>>539022850No it doesn’t. It relies upon them bunkering in. Iran did not have sufficient battle space control nor technology to achieve this, they don’t have delivery systems that can achieve that level of saturation. It’s actually an insane bleeding edge tech, it is not so trivial that a country like Iran could manage it.
>>539022950>not a trivial decision it is when you don't consider most Americans as humans
>>539021303So we have enough manpower for like 30 days of fighting and then we will lose the 5th war in a row? Aren't we tired of getting our ass kicked all across the middle east?
>>539022950we don't have the troops to invade Iran without a civilian draft. The entire US armed forces, all branches combined, is about 600k soldiers, most of whom are in support roles. The Iranian army, IRGC, Basij, reservists, etc are about 2 million. We haven't invaded bc we don't have the numbers to even attempt it, not bc we're working ourselves up to it. Will we try another harebrained SpecOps operation at Kharg or Qeshm islands like the failed one at Natanz to retrieve the highly enriched uranium? Perhaps but probably not until after the midterms.
>>539022850Good, dig your tunnel.How long can you live without seeing the sun before you go insane? A month? Three? Five?How long until mutiny?
>>539021303and to make it worse, mercenaries are already spent/occupied at prolonged ukraine war so the number should be more due to the inexperience of most of those recruits
>>539021303Operation Human Shield is finally real
>>539021303The massive armies of citizen soldiers that existed in the past only existed because of nationalism. That is it. Without nationalism you are limited to small private armies of professional mercenaries or large armies of nearly useless, reluctant conscripts. Western countries have systematically deconstructed nationalism and can no longer produce large armies of highly motivated citizen soldiers.
>>539021303make all these spics, haitians and jeets suit up. if want to live in america they have to earn it.
>>539023166Shut up, Chang. Your posting is too obvious. >ass kickedNice 80s meme from some old book
Anyone in the armed forces who actually agrees to invade Iran should have his family shot in the fucking stomach while he's away and his house burned down. Green niggers are just as guilty as jews at this point. You've had 20 years not to join the military.
>>539022734Ukraine's pulling people off the streets. Have been for years, all under marshall law, and they've done shit all for mutiny.
The only purpose of this wholly optional bullshit is to kill surplus men. That's all. Don't die for Israel. Don't die to make billionaires trillionaires. Don't die to make the world a safer place for Luciferian cannibals.
its worse because this time around the US doesn't have tons of NATO allies helping them out by also sending troops and supplies. and many supplies have already been run down due to the ukraine war eating up vast quantities of munitions. the technology gap has also significantly shrunk. not only does iran have way more capabilities than for example iraq had, but they are getting help from china and russia (including satellite surveillance) which eliminates many of the advantages that the US had back in the day.
>>539021303Go suck a dick like your president does.
>>539023314>Anonymousfuck off eglin bot, nobody is fighting your Israeli wars. We will not die for Israel. We do not consent to Epstein pedophiles subverting our nation destroying the national identity with floods of 3rd worlders to the point that we have become nothing but an economic zone to be exploited, and suddenly you want us to defend this shit hole so Israel can take over the world? GO. FUCK. YOURSELF. FAGGOT!
>>539022473So you drone the island and then what ?You could just bomb it.Still not a ground invasion and still not occupiedRetard coper migger maggot
>>539023357The difference is that every American male over the age of 18 potentially has a gun on them at all times. You see Ukrainians desperately try to fight back with their bare hands but i think the videos would end much differently if every Ukrainian had a pistol holstered and ready to be pulled out during a confrontation
>>539021303They can send all nonwhites in operation meatgrinder. Wave after wave of darkies will invade from the Hormuz towards Tehran.
>>539022950Every decision is trivial and made carelessly when you're the oldest president ever, have dementia, and are trying to distract the world from the Trump-Epstein files.
>>539023327Calm down, Leaf. Not every soldier is politically aware just like most normies
>>539023608The military’s anti-DEI measures culled the blacks and trannies from their ranks.Straight whities are gonna get sent to the meatgrinder LMAO.
Yeah, we wont be answering calls to join aggressors side. USA started this mess.We have to focus on our region anyways.Got Russian samoloty some hours ago.Fun stuff, I live at the Baltic sea coast.Good luck if true Americans.
>>539021303Get read goys, draft is coming!
>3,600That's a high fiction fantasy conservative estimate -- an assault on Persia would wipe what's left of any U. S. military and leave the nation with nothing but its 1970's floppy disk run nuclear arsenal as a 'defense' for its own territory. Sending ZOGbots into Persia would be Orcs Must Die!: The reality Show. Under no other administration other than this kike corrupted, seditious Shabbos clown show would such national suicide missions ever even be gamed out; let alone, contemplated.>TFW mutts actually believe the world is still Top Gun c.1980s
>>539023738Based image, saved it.
>>539023804The US military deserves to be humbled with all the retarded veterans of the past 40 years crying and demanding reparations because they had to carry a heavy backpack up a hill
>total zoomer death will result from a hypothetical ground invasion of IranWTF. I'm on team ZOG now. The repressive theocracy must fall!
>>539023804You're right ofc but idk why you're talking shit, Dundee. You Aussie fags are always, always, right there with us in whatever wars we stir up. Ya'll sent what 40-50k troops to Iraq/Afghanistan? This time will be no different. Preemptive thank you for your service btw anon
>>539023928>memeflag>generational D&Cplease play chicken with a commuter train on the way home from your shill center in hyderabad, SIR!
>>539021303Don't worry my fat ass will take care of your girl while you die for Israel.
>>539021815>>539021908>sir if we invade this country we will have 6k deaths per week>OK JUST INVADE WITH DRONES BROpete hegseth? is that you?this is the top of the top level migger military strategy right here, unironically
>>539023357plenty of drafters find themselves murdered today, but for obvious reasons this news isn’t spammed to you
>>539022734>Ukraine cannot find people to do it.They literally just kidnap them without much resistance.The place is like a caricature of the USSR during total war complete with a Jewish jester as the dictator.
>>539023314Imagine having to do P.R for the jewnited states on fucking 4chan lmao. A dead golem is a good golem, I wish the Iranians the best in their endeavors with the ruthless and monolithic conspiracy.
A war with Iran is retarded and I'm not doing it. Iran isn't my enemy. I don't give a flying fuck who is in charge of Tehran or the hilariously named "Holy City of Cum"
>>539023548The overall goal is to minimize infrastructure damage. After six months, you pull a weekend at Bernie’s and replace the entire population with people from allied countries in the region with rebuild incentives. If you keep the loop isolated enough, almost no one from the original cohort is left. It might be Iranian on paper, but the population has been replaced.Read the UN paper on replacement migration.
>>539021303How many jews will die per day?
>>539021815They'll use Anti-personnel dronesYou'll use your limp dick Normandy 2.0
>>539024406Cool story, imbecileIf you kill the Iranians and put zogbots there, then Iranians will just drone zogbots.>Replacement migrationThat's what happens in America but what about Iran.
How do I join? My life has no value, so I may as well just die.
>>539023804>>539023958Such jealousy could be seen in times of slavery. The house negro vs the porch negro vs the field negro. America just happens to be the house negro. They would have no issue getting rid of us and swapping them around. In fact, one could even say that's what the British empire was. The Anglo-Jew naturally loved the Anglo empire and it's ability for awhile.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DykVJl6wr_4WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!!!1
>>539024540A similar thing is done, it is not all that different than the situation with Crimea and much of Eastern Ukraine.
>>539022491>wasting billions per dayThat's the point. How new are you?
>>539023804If there's any justice in this world the Chinks won't fall for the Esau Gambit and they put kikes in gulags after the west has been satisfactorily destroyed
The USA has a default reserve force that could be capitalized upon in terms of Police & correctional officers:20% of the workforce ≈ 267,000 people.• Prison population:20% of incarcerated individuals ≈ 390,000 people.A draft of these two populations would allow for a force over half a million controlling for some suitability.
>>539024912This also reduces the judicial burden significantly, in terms of localized savings it would, in a practical sense, fund itself.
>>539024728>it is not all that different than the situation with Crimea and much of Eastern Ukraine.It's completely different you dumb fuck.Ukraine is a ground invasion and the territory Russians hold they also govern.There are no zogbots in Iran and if they try they'll be vaporized so you will never govern IranYou are unironically low IQ pathetic coper
>>539021303Send in the anchor babies.
>>539021303It's worth it though, Israel can't spare any troops so for every dead goyim you will be saving a Jew.
>>539025095
>>539023450>The only purpose of this wholly optional bullshit is to kill surplus men. That's all.But isn't that (and anal sex) hasn't that always the point of every war ever? Ya know? Get rid of all the low IQ types who wouldn't be here if the rubber hadn't tore? Trick those dupes into enlisting.
>>539025075To je veoma lep novi stadion koji se gradi u Beogradu, misliš li da će ti se dopasti?“
>>539024912Lol you want to put criminals in the military. The fact is that U.S institutions as a whole have a very low quality man pool to begin with because the government has done a wonderful job of destroying its integrity and confidence through forced immigration, science juice and the obscene public schooling agendas.Nobody with a modicum of intelligence or upstanding character is volunteering to serve the great satan. The best it can hope for are some decent recruits via economic hardship, which is fitting. Minimum wage golem mercenary, that's the JewSA military hahahahaha
>>539025359Jebem ti mater kurvu
>>539025455As long as you control for it in the pipeline it is really not that much of an issue. I don’t see a problem with it at all, especially if they get another chance at life after the fact.
>>539025627Da li si već dovoljno gladan da prodaš veru za ručak?
>>539025455>Lol you want to put criminals in the military.They are the best choice for the military>Nobody with a modicum of intelligence or upstanding character is volunteering to serve the great satan.Duh. Or any army at all
>>539025673>>539024728>>539025095>>539025359Your concession is accepted
>>539021303lol lmao no. let me spell out your actual options, stop sabre rattling like youre an empire, and cope and seethe as you decline in power like we have quality of life. dont want that? want to relive the past where the judeo american elite could ride high and untouchable? well you can hope the niggers you imported want to fight for you motherfucker. guess empires arent actually ran by a single psionic oh so special kike who thinks hes better than everyone while attending festivals and child rape orgies with his butt buddies.
>>539025768Ah, so this is the part where you, the pigeon, decide to strut around and claim victory after shitting all over the chess board.Typical of Serbians, it cannot be helped.
>>539021303DEVS VULTCHRIST IS KANGBLESS THOSE WHO BLESS ISRAELCURSE THOSE WHO CURSE ISRAEL
>>539025266Barron will not be fighting. He's too tall. Too tall. Too handsome. Looks just like me. But the Mexicans. They are going. You can go to Iran or you can go to Mexico. Iran is much safer. Much safer. And if you don't die, maybe you can come back.
>>539025856You failed to address the argument and instead you starting talking nonsenseYes, you've lost
>>539023206Iranians aren't as weak as goymericans. You need to learn what they did during the Iran-Iraq war (that the US backed Iraq in incidentally) to understand we cannot match their morale. >We will never have a fountain of martyrs blood
>>539025955As soon as you ad hom you cede any claim to a reasonable position in the argument. You gave up your claim in your opening statement, tough luck IG, even the most ignorant know this.
>>539021303This will be 6 gorrilion types of deaths like the ukraine war since Russians lost 20k total. I anticipate no more than 3k will die while Iranians will end up like piggers, all fried.
>>539025935>this guy has a hard on for Barron Trump
>>5390257683600 Mexicans per day is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Hell, don't give them guns and make it 36,000 for all I care. No Americans will be harmed and Iran will solve the beaner problem once and for all. I accept your concession.
>>539026080>As soon as you ad hom you cede any claim to a reasonable positionNo. I consider this our 2nd debate btw, you've lost the first one>Why is *adding* Ad Hominem not a concessionLook at these examples:You say >2+2=5I say>A) No, retard, 2+2=4or>B) No, retardIn case of A) I have provided an argument and added the "retard" part but the point stands, I win.In case of B) I have no arguments so I'm just sperging out, I lose.Additionally, if you're retarded and I call you a retard after you say a bunch of retarded things, it's not really a hominem, it's just a fact
>>539021815Iran has anti-personnel drones as well, they have more of them, they are a lot cheaper for them to make, and to top it all off they make their own drones.America's anti-personnel drones while more high-tech are far more expensive to make, a lot fewer in quantity, we have no where near as many as Iran's cheaper made drones, and the US doesn't even manufacture its own drones. You tell me who has the advantage here especially since the US drones would be deployed into Iran's home turf.
>>539021303We're gonna need more dead migger storage.
>>539026252lol people seem to forget our current military is made up of nothing but worthless beaners, women and nigras. Look at our fucking navy. It's just a floating buffet that corks it the moment some darkie stuffs his shit stained undies into a laundry vent (allegedly), the alternative that Iran just BTFO the ship full of useless retards
>>539022950Bombing thay school as your opening salvo sure seemed trivial to me mr.elgin
once they run out of enlisted they will recall veterans, once they run out of veterans, they will draft the 20 year olds, once they run out of 20 year olds they will draft 30 year olds, once they run out of 30 year olds they will draft the 40 year olds
>>539026317You already conceded in both arguments via insulting the person rather than the idea, unfortunately. I suppose we can just proceed to insulting each other since that is your style of thinking. You never answered my question; how hungry do you have to be to sell yourself for a lunch?
>>539025643I don't know how reliable the criminals will be in the service of their duties lol. Now if you're talking about using them in some sort of crude way then you will have some human rights violations which is a slippery slope.
>>539026490Correct. No sensible white man has joined the military since Iraq and Afghanistan. Everyone that's there is there for gibs. Ayatollah, please lighten that burden on the American taxpayer.
>>539021303i say we send the fucking gook chink to build themselves a golf course.. that's right.. then they can drive their fucking vehicles all around Iran too and show no respect to their people at all.. Do you not understand that?.. The people of Iran are going to fucking hate living among Chinese and Chinese people.. they'll hate China more than they ever hated the Ayatollah.. Think about it.. If there's nobody left to negotiate with.. Then, the United States will give to the Iranian people, somebody that America can negotiate with.. They're just not going to like that person very much. You want loss of control? Ya? The United States can do loss of control, just not in the way they expect
>>539026490That is not true: Redneck/Rube types are still the vast majority. I live in Carlsbad and would love to see dead Pendleton Marines; dead means I do not have to see them walking around.
>>539021899>>Based on Ukraine, we may need more conscripts to march into artillery.Op's article is from some "literal who" woman who worked in embassy roles and then got a comfy job at the war college.
>>539026729Forgot picture. She is a career "policy" officer.
>>539024045no you won't, military wives are fat hogs who fuck niggers lmao
>>539026407I think you underestimate the price per unit that can be achieved with appropriate mobilization in the USA.
>>539022950>I don’t think you understand what it means to kill 100,000 people.>It is not a trivial decision made carelessly.For jews that's light work. Be for fuckin' real right now. KEK
>>539021303If we're invading Iran, the only way to get through their homo mountain bunkers is nukes
>>539021303Who cares? Mutts voted for it.
>>539026723Did a marine fuck your girlfriend?
>>539021303L M F A ORIP ZOGOLEMS
>>539021303It says casualties, not dead. So like, if they catch a cold or something.
>>539026755The author is actually Dr. John Naglehttps://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/SSI-Media/Recent-Publications/Article/3948342/review-and-reply-on-why-americas-army-cant-win-americas-wars/
>>539026926"Why America cant win Israel's war"
>>539026868No one here associates with Marines. They are viewed as trash.
>>539026651The reliability can be controlled for.Four years of service and guaranteed freedom/citizenship for people on ten year sentence is an easy decision. If you control the recruitment pipeline well enough and cultivate it appropriately, while having a separated tier of service, well, it’s an easy decision for most in that situation.
>>539022734The Uk v Rus war has shown us that YES people can indeed just be yoinked off the streets despite every fucker in existence having a pocket library of Alexandria. Not just some of them, ALL of them. All of them were very yoinkable, very little fought back. Not a lick of armed resistance in EITHER country. Just like WW2 by the way. Lots of shooting of deserters in WW1 and 2 by the way on our side, just like Ukraine Jews and ziggers do. Vietnam was a little easier to dodge thanks to richfags do it the dodging. Fuck we have Flock now. You bet your ass you WILL be hunted down and yoinked by the conscription bus. You will not fight back, you will not kill the recruiters. Because they will just pop up ANYWHERE and your guard will be down and the niggers inside will nab you and beat the fuck out of you. Then you will be shot via firing squad to be an example to others. There will be no resistance. But there will be a TON of reddit tier retards naming the places they are online, then dying because whoops here comes the shells and missiles.
>>539026637>insulting the person rather than the ideaNo, I insulted the person AND dismantled the idea you dumb kike you can't even follow the reasoning here let alone counter it>I explain>He still uses his previous argument as if no explanation was given; ignores the argument, pretend not to see itSo you lost 2 debates in a single thread, impressive. Calling you a moron is not Ad Hominem, it's merely a fact
>>539026926co-author. Dr. John Nagle sells books and calls for more gibbs for the US military. > Center for a New American Security>defense policy board>spirit of AmericaThese fucking 501C "profitable non-profits", they were saying the 1990 invasion of Iraq would see 50k americans dead in the first week and that American tanks would have an average life expectancy of 3 minutes on the battlefield. They are just whores for big defence contractors coaxing for more military contracts by constantly selling the idea that the American military is 50 years behind their near peers, and not ever ready for conflict.
>>539026826We have tens of millions of illegals at our disposal. Look at what they've done to America. They don't even have to fight the Iranians to destroy their country. They're used to the heat and hard terrain, extreme poverty and beheadings by black mask clad terrorists. In no time their halal shawarmas will be replaced with al pastor tacos.
>>539022950That's just a number friendo. Very easy for Jews and shabbos goy to go, lol big number whatever and do the evil/wrong thing anyway. I mean look at Flock: no one likes them, no one wants them, yet they are fucking everywhere and people hate it. Flock should be political suicide, yet every fucking town and city is installing the fuckers. People can't stop the AI data centers. You think they can stop the abduction van? FUCK NO they cannot.
absolutely no white male should fight against their will after what our countries have done to us
>>539027182To be fair the media control in both cases is strong enough that any instances of resistance would be heavily suppressed.There was an attempt at a coup in Russia, and those drones hitting the oil infrastructure do not make it in the country without some amount of an underground resistance.The same is true of the oppositional view,instances of sabotage occur due to defectors meaning to erode the fighting ability of the state.It occurs on both sides, because the thought is if resources are sequestered enormously they will have to give up on the effort.(when it is reduced to a pyrrhic scenario)
>>539027212>blah blah Sorry, I don’t engage in discourse with people who can’t manage a reasonable discourse without insult. I just won’t lower myself, let me know if you don’t understandz.
>>539022051Injured, sick, or dead.
>>539022491RETARD ALERTRETARD ALERTthe entire point of mutto-jewish wars is insider trading and creating justifications for the stealing of taxpayers' money. Zogbots mass deaths, goyim humiliation ritual and surveillance state appartus are just nice bonuses. But the main purpose always have been wealth extraction from the poorest to the richest.
>>539027483>No argumentKek your 2nd concession is accepted You wanna third debate kek ?
>>539026999Lol, surely the criminals will see the long term benefit of such an opportunity, they'd be stupid not to!
>>539021303Boomers voted for this.
>>539027394>young white men must sacrifice their lives for greater Israel even tho we are living an unprecedented demographic collapse, in the name of boomers' pensions and getting actively replaced by niggers & browns thanks to an illegitimate government who endlessly humiliate you and steal from you Idk how they will spin this to encourage zoomies to die for a "nation" they never had the opportunity to enjoy. All they've known since birth is an economic zone with a total fluidity of economic agents (humans). Who tf would want to die for this shit lol?I guess they will have to do like Russia did : bait kids with absurdly high salaries. That's all western governments can do at this point : hire mercenaries.
>>539021303What does the Ukraine war have to do with Iran?
>>539023314shut up Elgin shill bitch.Go fucking first to the front, faggot
>>539027356Lots of people clinging to fantastical heroic redemption. There will be none, resistance is futile and just like the government's around the world in unison did everything but personally hold them down to inject them with science juice they will act in unison to whatever global theatrics are at hand. They all nuked their reputation in the action of the agenda, it should terrify people but meh.
>>539021303Yeah their drones are gonna pick them off real easy. I feel sorry for them, but why even join idk. Apparently the average iq for ground troops is 80, so they’re literally sending and taking advantage of retarded people.
>>539028011it was the first large scale war between infrastructurally advanced nations in the modern tech era. It's normal they are trying to draw parallels. The ukro-russian war have been a playing field for tacticians, logisticians, engineers to try to determine how to adapt armies to the 21st century. Until now we basically were fighting with cold war era stuff. Or even WW2 stuff in a lot of instances. Your stratofortresses are from the 1950s. Aircraft carriers, tanks, automatic rifles, artillery, mortars... all these are relics from WW2. But now we are entering the era of mach-15 hyperveloce missiles, signal interferences and drones, engineers have to redesign the entire playing field.
>>539027662The people who are deciding where the money is going are the ones who are manipulating society. Funding the overseas NGOs teaching people to illegally emigrate, funding mental illness activities like cutting your dick off or listening to nigger rap, how nice it is to mix your genetics with brown people etc etc. Middle management that are chasing the money, working in their lab creating mRNA bio-machines with receiver to inject into you waiting for instruction all by happenstance
>>539021303>3600
>>539028470>3600>thirty six hundred>three six
US is a free society and seeing women getting blown to pieces by plastic drones from Amazon or Temu will cause morale to plummet causing people to either refuse to serve in the future or outright mutiny like those ships before the Iran debacle.
>>539022491goyim is cheap, hardware makes money for your betters timmy.
>>539028294They should really try to go for mobility kills then tow in.
>>539028527>and seeing women getting blown to pieces by plastic drones from Amazonyou know what? Now you are saying this, out of probably thousands of drones vids posted on pol since the SMO started, i don't think i've seen a SINGLE one with a woman getting blown up.
>>539027669Sorry, I don’t engage in discourse with people who can’t manage a reasonable discourse without insult. I just won’t lower myself, let me know if you don’t understandz.
>>539021303Christians choose to be slaves for the Jews. They work to earn money just to give it freely to the Jews. They will even fight and die for them. But the Jews will never reciprocate, they are chosen.
>>539028704based respectmaxxer
>>539021303jews want 144,000 dead goys served on a gold platter to moloch, ASAP.
>>539022950Why not you killed 160 children and didn't give a shit
>>539023166Nigger shill is retarded we killed a million iraqis during desert storm. Afghanistan wasn't any different. The last two wars failed because of politics not fighting. Don't let me catch you shilling for niggers around here again, faggot
>>539023177So similar odds like Iraq and Iran lost to Iraq in the late 80s / early 90s, not much has changed but technology.
>>539027988Things like have busification squads running around. Banning you from having a bank account or receiving deposits if you've been selected for draft. Suspending your credit, etc, etc. Then, they dangle that lucrative military contract offer out there.
>>539028739I just want you shitskins to eat crow. You say you're better than us and we're about to show you how much you aren't
>>539026755She has the dead, psychopath eyes. Her smile doesn't reach them.
>>539028862Me personally?Washington DC is further away from me than your country is to Berlin. How much liability do you have for decisions made in Berlin, or the whole of the EU for that matter?
>>539023357Draft officers are actively hunted because of it. Press ganging will be even worse in a place like the USA where guns are far more plentiful. Even in Euro trade zones have fun dodging stabbings, molotovs, and sabotage. Your odds are far better fighting right here and now than being sent off to a battlefield to die as cannon fodder. Might as well go down swinging against the real domestic traitor enemy no?
>>539024800I still cant believe this jewish nigger got away with covid.
>>539024912>thanks ChatGPT 2.3 million active and reserve duty personnel in the U.S. armed forces.
>>539025095>They are citizens now. Send them to the front or renounce their citizenship
>>539028867Lol whatever helps you cope amerifat glownigger. We Haven't won a war since ww2. And we only won that because we had russia and we were breaking every war crimes law. Killing random sand people =winning a war in your meth addled mind of one red white and blue brain cell. We created more terrorist and more enemies and lost men and money to do nothing. The area is back under extremist muslim rule and our bases got blown up because we decided to kick the hornets nest in iran for kike profit.
>>539029661That is a portion that is already accounted for in most figures. When you look at what can be shored up quickly in addition to base numbers already available, that is the sum.There is a massive sum that you are not seeing, however.
>>539021815>America will defeat rocketry it can't match with drone tech it can't match by outproducing the economic alliance that includes ChinaDoes this mean more White men will get manufacturing jobs, or is that unconscionable still?>>539022191>swarm intelligence operation(no mothership,multiband distributed intelligence).Iran is allied with Russia. Russia entered the Ukraine war with EW units who made remote control non-viable. That's why drones use fiber optic cables. The US doesn't have the ability you described and won't as long as it's busy babysitting niggers and jeets. The US further does not have the capability to procure and deploy sufficient amounts of fibre optic cable.>>539022336>We will take it with an administrative flight out to change the paperwork process.America was unable to land in a region that has a population of 250 people. One of these gave an interview on TV. He's an old fuck with a WW2 rifle who got it out because he heard there were Americans to shoot. If the US tries to touch down on Kharg island, there are thousands of fighting age men eagerly waiting for them, and the whole island is within drone and artillery range of the mainland. And this assumes that America can cross the water safely, which it can't.>>539022734>Russia cannot even find people to do it, so they take from prisons.Russia's force is all volunteer. That includes the penal batallions. You can watch the recruitment speech in the prisons online right now. They weren't even offered amnesty. Literaly the pitch was, "I can't promise you your freedom. I can promise you that you will die for Russia instead of dying for nothing in a prison." And even those volunteers had to pass physicals and were disqualified by certain crimes.>>539022798>It looks like:>System that doesn't exist>Delivered in hostile airspace>Working by radio under hostile EW from nations with more advanced EW>And then it loiters for longer than any system>And doesn't get counter-droned
>>539021303Has nothing to do with Iran.
>>539021303Cool but that's all head canon
>>539022850>Everyone on us military bases just hid in bunkers during drone attacks.America always lies about casualties. Go talk to US military veterans, or anyone who's worked in veterans affairs. America is simply lying to you about its casualty numbers. US military hospitals in Europe closed to visitors and put out blood drives in the first week of the conflict, because hospitals in Saudi Arabia were no longer sufficient to handle US casualties. This is in line with Russian estimates in the thousands. That's in line with catching a 500kg warhead and a storm of shaheds. Your only counter-argument is "I trust ZOG.">>539022950>It is not a trivial decision made carelessly.America began the conflict by launching more than half of its arsenal of standoff munitions at hospitals and schools, in a surprise attack during morning hours to maximize casualties. The Secretary of War then went on TV and said there are no rules of engagement and he's not interested in Politically Correct warfare, only lethality. This follows on the US Navy completely shirking the GC and committing piracy in every corner of the globe.>>539023177>are about 2 millionThat is the lowest western estimate. The Basij alone counts itself at around 20 million. The Basij (Militia minutemen) were the ones who forced American SOF to retreat in that silly land operation that was claimed to be a pilot rescue.>>539023357>and they've done shit all for mutiny.According to Ukraine's own numbers, military defectors to Russia outnumber casualties. There are riots in Lviv and there are more recently videos of Ukrainians killing their recruiters with knives after being dragged into the van. There are a few cases of suicide bombings of TCC centers as well.>>539023713>The military’s anti-DEI measures culled the blacks and trannies from their ranks.The US military is less White now than it has ever been. Absolutely nothing like what you're fantasizing about has happened.
>>539021303It's talking about human lives like it's some RPG game. Damn, zog is insane. The biggest wonder is how Christians consider this shit acceptable. But american Christianity is just a fan club and not much more.
>supposed high IQ board thinks that irannys will manage to inflict more daily casualties that piggies and ziggers combinedits about direct conflict with either Russia or China retards, if you arent going to read the article at least use ai before posting
>>539021303>volunteer force has outlived its shelf life and does not align with the current operating environment.”Always was.
>>539030041Why yes, it is a great idea to go into detail about how it works, we should absolutely post everything we know about it publicly.
>>539021303>The implication is that the 1970s concept of an all-volunteer force has outlived its shelf life and does not align with the current operating environmentLOL. get ded zoomzooms
>>539030566>xddd get ded zoomers, follow the law and do what your daddy govt tells you!And then fragging and chaos will rid you faggots away
>>539024406>The overall goal is to minimize infrastructure damageIran is willing to destroy it.>After six monthsAmerica couldn't protect its bases in the Gulf Coast for one day, and your plan is to occupy a shooting gallery within drone and artillery range for six months? Surrounded by hostile waters and in hostile airspace?>>539024713>My life has no value, so I may as well just die.If you join the SMO on the Russian side, you at least get a payout when its over. Think about the just-in-case where you join one of these and survive.>>539024912>20% of incarcerated individuals ≈ 390,000 people.You need an IQ of at least 90 to be a passable soldier.>over half a millionThat's 1/5 of the fatalities in Ukraine. That's not enough to win a modern war. That's just the amount lost in a single failed offensive.>>539026407>America's anti-personnel drones while more high-techAmerican drones are more high tech than the 15 year old Shahed-136 they're reverse engineered from. They are not more high tech than the shaheds or gerans currently being produced. Iran hasn't even run through its stockpile of last-gen shaheds.>>539026777>I think you underestimate [Imaginary scenario]
>>539030041There is a way to operate a fleet of drones with very little in traditionally seen control methodology.It’s just, erm, unconscionable.
>>539022442>get mad at guy killing you in video game>copy his loadout>still lose
>>539021908It's pocket change
>>539030533Russia seems to be doing fine with an all volunteer force. Turns out you just have to actually offer to pay what the job is worth.
>>539030616I don't really give a shit. They've obviously sold this faggot place to pajeet to fill with garbage and rape babies.
>>539030836Oh right I forgot you're Canadian. The country that gets ass raped by jeets all day. i'm confused why they like your country more than america, maybe your syrup or faggot leaf attracts them
>>539030787What the job is worth changes depending on how desperate your people are. Your government might not be able to pay you enough to throw yourself into the meat grinder as things stand for you right now, but the government can also make things worse and worse until your price drops to something “reasonable”.
>>539026999>The reliability can be controlled for.>Four years of service and guaranteed freedom/citizenship for people on ten year sentence is an easy decision.The average prison nigger cannot comprehend immediate consequences or a string of events a minute long. Many of them struggle with basic causality. It's not an issue of if they'll be honorable. It's an issue of them being less trainable than a dog and less resourceful than a bird.>>539027182>The Uk v Rus war has shown us that YES people can indeed just be yoinked off the streetsICE was unable to do this in the US because a handful of deranged liberals opposed them. What do you think is going to happen when ICE is mobilized to draft Whites to die fighting Whites and actual human beings oppose them? This is an armed population. Even if no two guys get together to redact ICE agents, the ocasional self-defense pot-shot will rapidly dwindle ICE's forces.>>539027404>There was an attempt at a coup in RussiaYou fell for a Russian psyop. Prighozin, noted for faking his death on multiple occasions and always being in disguise, first psyopped NATO in Bakhmut into thinking Wagner was out of ammo, convincing Ukraine to throw tens of thousands of men into a cauldron of artillery fire agaisnt fortified lines. Then he repeated the trick less than a year later by convincing NATO that Wagner had abandoned the front line and was marching on Moscow. It was literally just Prighozin with a cell phone and a few dudes in a jeep handing out water bottles.>>539027988>I guess they will have to do like Russia did : bait kids with absurdly high salaries.Have you never talked to a Russian? You can ask them how they feel about the war and why. Just go to a local Orthodox church and ask if anyone would be willing to talk to you about it. You'll find a Russian or someone with Russian friends or relatives.
>>539030559There's no "It." The US lacks the capabilities that Iran, Russia, China, Yemen, and North Korea have. That's why it keeps losing.>>539030682>There is a way>It’s just, erm, unconscionable.Your fanfiction lacks credibility since the West does not have a conscious. You are trying to spin a headcanon in which the US is commanded by good guys whose humanitarian interests constrain what they're willing to do, but if it wasn't for that they'd be super competent. Nigger, the US is run by rootless capitalist pedophiles commanding a force of mulattos and women on SSRIs. ZOG wishes it could make grander sacrifices to Moloch, but it can't.
>>539030645Yes, and trivially occupied as well.If you assume that it would resemble Ukraine you would be wholly incorrect. Iran is not Ukraine.
>>539022950One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.
>>539031337America wasn't able to occupy its own bases supported by the entire navy and its best air defences for one week. America is not able to occupy Kharg island and protect personnel.
>>539031196Yes, can you list those capabilities?
>>539023548Miggers think they can just mass murder everyone on the island and take it over and that Iran would just watch I believe is the cope from reading their horse shit fanfic. Their troops will be sitting ducks but ours will be perfectly safe when they occupy it for some reason.
>>539021303>US ARMY EXPECTS 3600 GOYIM DEAD PER DAY IN GROUND INVASION OF IRAN!ok. now i support ground invasion on Iran.
>>539031457>can you list those capabilities?Public Transit, primary education, healthcare, hypersonic rocketry, Radar construction, Electronic Warfare, drone warfare, counter-drone warfare, anti-drone artillery, artillery warfare, missile interception, missile mass production, misisile warfare, drone mass production, marching in time, holding a military parade, arresting criminals, border enforcement, voluntary military recruitment, naval mine warfare, land mine warfare.If you really couldn't think of any capability BRICS has that the west doesn't, then you're a dumb bitch.
>>539021303Casualty doesn't mean death. Also good, it's worth the cost of finishing this war that Iran started and finally open the strait
>>539031449Do you think that wasn’t accounted for a long time ago in most wargames done? The F-35B vertical launch capability exists because of specific parameters that kept showing up in the data, which consisted destroyed bases and cratered airfields. The butchers bill was accounted for long before the conflict ever began in that regard, it would be foolish to think these losses were unexpected and unaccounted for.
>>539031686You didn’ტ 𐊊ven li𐊖т 𐊀nyтhing, you might 𐊀𐊖 well h𐊀ve ტold м𐊊 noтhing 𐊀т 𐊀ll. Whaт 𐊀 𐊖𐊀т𐊊 of 𐊀 po𐊖т.
>>539031794The unexpected losses that were more difficult to shoulder, there were only a few that were more difficult to cope with.
>>539021303zionists really thought we would do this for them
>>539022950You think Trump or anyone in his cabinet gives a fuck about how many US soldiers die?
>>539022727Id like to see ukie style press gangs roll up and try to round up some Detroit niggers for the new draft and get gunned down in the streets.
>>539032021Do you think that the military would comply in a fashion that met parameters which would lead unconscionable losses? Unlike what many vested interests would lead you to believe, the USA is not filled with third world despotism.Further, much of the cabinet would understand what a personal mistake it would be to do that, after all… what percentage of their security team do you think is prior service?The sum of defectors that could prevent such a decision is very small.
>>539031794>Do you think that wasn’t accounted for a long time agoYes. You also just accounted for this for the first time, completely dropping your argument that no such disparities existed.>The F-35B vertical launch capabilityDoes not even begin to address the problem of destroyed airbases and the range at which America's navy has to hide from Iran.>The butchers bill was accounted forIncorrectly. That's why America keeps losing.>>539031970>there were only a few that were more difficult to cope with.America is sortieing bombers from the UK and failing to meet any objectives. America depleted its air defences in multiple theaters failing to defend bases in the Gulf Coast.>>539031896>You didn’ტ 𐊊ven li𐊖т 𐊀nyтhingAny modern language model can account for this as mispellings, doofus. I listed several factors that have been decisive in America's recent defeats.
>>539032439τhαܬ doεσn’ტ mܐაn I won’∫ bloom your co∏∆√ion∞l burεn
>>539032378>Do you think that the military would comply in a fashion that met parameters which would lead unconscionable losses?Yes. That's what happened in the opening strikes of the illegal invasion of the war. That's what's happening daily when the US Navy double-taps shipwrecked sailors off Venezuela's coast without even positively identifying them. The Secretary of War boasts on TV that the US is not beholden to the Geneva Convention. The Secretary of State has declared that the next national project is the dismantling of the International Criminal Court. American officers started the Iran war by targeting schools and hospitals during opening hours. So yes, the US is an inhumane beast and its officer corps will comply with illegal orders.
>>539032439If αn ∆iλb∞σε w⊗σ oრ w⊂σn’√ dεΣτroyeΦ, oრ σoρ∏i∑Σ wΦre oρεrατeܐ ouტ oƒ iτ, do you τhink τhατ wε would mαinტ⊕in τhατ i√ hαܬ bελn dεστroyeε ⊕nywαy? You only სεem ∫o knoω whατ τhε nεw⊗ τεllΣ you.
>>539031058>What the job is worth changes depending on how desperate your people are.Gee, it's almost like value is subjective.>Your government might not be able to pay you enough to throw yourself into the meat grinder as things stand for you right nowSo you're saying that without conscription people won't throw themselves into a meatgrinder without a good reason? Sounds like an argument against conscription.>but the government can also make things worse and worse until your price drops to something “reasonable”.Or until they are overthrown. When people get desperate enough that their options are revolution or death in a stupid pointless meatgrinder, then the risk of revolution will seem much more appealing, since it will carry at worst similar risks but could have a much higher payout if it succeeds.
>>539032522Σwεeping αccu∏ατion⊗ l∞ck evidܐncε. i∫dεpεndεnτ vΦri⊕icατion iσ ε∑Σenτiαl. wαr iΣ complεx, propaტgαndα di⊂τorτܣ, αnd condεmn αll oƒƒicεrΣ ignorεΣ lαw ∆nd nuαncε. ეvidence muΣτ bε prεΣenτ bεƒorε judgmεnτ, αnd √ruτh iΣ noτ dεtεrmine∫ by propaτgαndα αlone. σtruτh iΣ Σeen in evidΦncε, αnd ⊗ccuΣατionΣ muΣτ bε ∆nchσrεd in ⊕ctuαl ∞vidence. ტruτh iΣ noτ ܬold by ⊂implε clαimΣ αlone.
>>539032586America is sortieing from the UK because that's the closest safe place to park the bombers. You can see the bombed airbases for yourself online. That's why the US needs so many air refueling craft. Because it can't sortie from within Iran's missile range. Which mainstream news channel do you think I'm getting this from you dumb fuck?
