I spoke to a leftist who unironically said white people should be murdered on the streets and it's justified because of colonialism. I said it's wrong to murder people who didn't do anything wrong just because of a contrived sin or crime of their ancestors. Even if colonialism was bad, it doesn't justify murdering the descendants of colonizers. The leftist just said >"What's your source on that?"I tried to argue that on claims like these, it's about morality and argument and you can't really cite a source except philosophy I guess, or maybe theology if you're religious, but the leftist then said>I need a peer reviewed source that proves it's morally wrong to murder the descendants of colonialists
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>>539022844Can’t argue with that.
>>539023047>>539022844You are sukhdeep You live in IsraelYou are awaiting your Trump visa
>>539022994That's called socratic irony. Lurk more dumdum.
Thats like a gazelle trying to argue its morally wrong to eat gazelles to a lion. Rationality is a vice.
>>539023120Socratic irony doesn't work when the other party provides a sound explanation and you then throw a hissy fit and leave / demand them to be banned.
>>539022844This exchange never happened.
>>539023120Like the leaf said, it's different from Socratic irony in that Socratic irony will be satisfied with an actual explanation and elaboration, whereas the leftist upon hearing an explanation will instead just go "idgi", forcing you to either increasingly dumb down what you're saying, or just writing them off as an idiot.
>>539023254Nice ID
>>539023105Checkmate liberal.
>>539023758Whoops
>>539022844Mentally ill people are mentally ill. Nothing to do except to be disgusted by them and perhaps make them know it. If you are petty or angry enough for some justice, if the parasite is working then haunt xir on social media and bring up this shit to xirs parents, peers or coworkers.
>>539023120But the leftist won’t allow me to explain so how is it exposing any flaws?
>>539023120sounds like a cope
>>539024113Now you're getting the hang of it.
Tell him he's being unserious. When he doubles down, tell him ancestral blood memory and then just tell all his associates he's pro murder. No further details. He can explain from there.It's not worth reasoning with unreasonable people. You have to deal with them with power alone.
>>539022844>arguing with a leftistthat was your first mistake
>>539022844sourcedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nQiw5Ie3U&t=287s
>>539022844No source? Genocide is fine than
>>539023120I don’t think you’re totally off base here. The new left professors of the hippie generation probably were doing this legitimately, but after half a century of unquestioned control over all narratives, nobody on the left understands how to argue nor intellectually justify anything they believe anymore because they just assume they have the “I win” button in their hands at all times. That’s why the “source please” thing works, some other smart person in a faraway land somewhere surely, probably, has given their blessing to whatever retarded shit they think while it’s illegal or bureaucratically impossible to fund any study that may possibly suggest chuds may have a good point to make about anything.
>>539023289Yes it did. It happens all the time on TikTok now fuck off libtard.
>>539022844leftists are enacting colonialism right this instant with massmigration so he should kill himself
>>539024703Literally, this was on a Tiktok Live argument, the prompt was "Whites Deserve to be Unalived Because of Colonialism and Slavery".That's where I had this argument.
>>539024917>>539024703Okay, then demand a source that whites should be killed. You're not that retarded, are you?
>>539024917How much can I earn posting bullshit like this on four chan dot org? Seems like a fun gig
You have to keep in mind that leftists today are insane. I've also tried talking to them. Trump didn't break their brains, he exposed how damaged they are.
>>539022844My dick
>>539022844There are plenty of options to deal with this level of retardation. 1. Ask for the lefty's source. Then move the goalposts by attacking their sources as non-credible and unreliable. Any cable news source is non-peer reviewed and lawsuits have established they all lie constantly. Dismiss any lefty paper as unreproducable fringe nonsense and demand better experts. 2. Point out that illegal immigration is colonialism and therefore it is justified to murder all illegal immigrants per the lefty's primary argument. Effectively each immigrant is a colonialist from China, Mexico, some African nation, etc. The leftist will short circuit and essentially revert to racism is prejudice plus power type arguments, but for immigrants. You can thwart that by pointing out places like China are literal world powers and therefor all Chinese migrants are for sure colonists and cannot be considered anything else. Especially given the lefty is a communist, a literal spiritual colonist for China. 3. Pretend to be an idiot and ask for the definition of white people, but accept no definition for white since actual white people (albinos) are super rare and most whites are pink or brown, and double down with the fact their "white" is really racist designed to erase brown cultures. You can also play the "Are Jews White?" card and ruin them with anti-semitism when they say yes, or ruin them again with anti-semitism when they claim Jews aren't and you can argue back that they were originally considered white for constitutional rights in the USA, so they are inseparable from whites. Nice little kafka trap for the leftist to make them demonstrably an antisemite to be destroyed. Of course the correct answer is to not argue with these midwits at all, it's a fucking god damn waste of time. Pilpul is for useless shits to waste useful people's time. You have to by definition be a useless sack of shit with unlimited free time to argue like a midwit.
>>539025446Hello, ChatGPT!
>>539025193I did at one point but they said "I asked you first" and said they would kick me and ban me if I didn't provide a peer reviewed source.
I refuse to have a conversation at all with anyone who condemns white people. Whites built the modern world. Whites are the most beautiful and intelligent race. If you're white, you should automatically side with your fellow whites, because niggers don't give a shit if you think racists are bad or not, you're just another privileged oppressor who could never possibly atone for the sins of your great great great great great grandfather once buying a shirt made from cotton harvested by a nigger slave.
>>539025917Then they aren't arguing in good faith and I don't see why you even bother.
>>539026182This, those tiktok live debates are retarded garbage designed to spread stuff like antiwhite propaganda. Don't even entertain that kind of bullshit. Don't play their stupid games.
>>539023289It actually sounds legit, anon.I have had really way too many bizarre and completely intellectually dishonest conversations with commies or democrats. This is a pattern.
>>539024625Nah, these fuck heads don't deserve an ounce of benefit of doubt. I've had leftists demand sources for logical deductions made from premises we both agree upon. Literally the meme of the redditor demanding a source for 2+2=4. This isn't cargo culting what used to be actual discussion, it's either being a retarded fag and demanding sources you'll never entertain or accept anyway; or an indicator that they unironically believe independent thought is impossible, and conclusions can only be handed down from higher authorities.
>>539026446This.I have experienced this phenomenon from low level commie retards to the highly educated commie democrat.
>>539023120>Reads "feigns ignorance" within definition >"Ah-hah!"You guys think like toddlers
>>539024625Good post
>>539023120No it's called intellectual dishonesty
>>539025193He's a migger, dude
>>539026182did you break the bot?
>>539026182To make this timewasting thread
>>539023120Ironic because Socrates was smeared as a sophist and forced to kill himself>"As philosophers, the Sophists were considered by some in the era to be men of ambiguous reputation; in the words of one contemporary commentator, "they were [seen as] a set of charlatans that appeared in Greece in the fifth century BC, and earned ample livelihood by imposing on public credulity: professing to teach virtue, they really taught the art of fallacious discourse, and meanwhile propagated immoral practical doctrines."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates
>>539022844Kek
>>539023120No it's called being a dumbass, they have a synopsis of their ideology but they actually have no idea what they're talking about. When you poke holes in it they can't find answers they just fall in a hole
>>539022844Get strong. You win any argument if you can lift more than your opponent.
>>539023289Your ass doesn't get outside enough. These commie longhouse talking animals are everywhere doing everything they can to throw those around them into their longhouse and pump them full of poison. If (You) don't believe me just get around town working at different places until they inevitably try to fire your ass for not selling your soul to them.
