There are niggers who believe that "geopolitics" is not a real thing. Most of these niggers live in the west by the way.But when you look at the largest country in the history of the world, that still persists to this day, you begin to understand why for hundreds of years Russia's western borders included most of Ukraine and parts of Poland.You look at Europe's geography and topography, and you notice that large territories are not a "nice to have" but a "crucial to have" if you want to avoid losing millions of men in endless wars.Picrel is borders defined by mountains, deserts, and bodies of water.The "???" is where most of Russia's bloodiest wars occurred through history. A) If you want that border to remain undefined/freeform/selfgoverning, and you want peace to prevail - then everyone living there must cooperate and be friendly and good-natured to all neighbours.B) If you want endless wars to restart in the "???" area, then you need to act like a dick, expand NATO, funnel billions in "Le Ukraine Must Prevail"
>>539036412Nigga the question mark area is where their people live. No-one fucking lives in the middle of siberia
>>539036412Please, not another Russia thread. These threads are always so lame and repetitive.
ive never spoken to someone from russia who wasasnt depressed and ive never met someone who was frussian while also having basically anythying good to say about it -at all- russia isnt a good place to live, thats kinda why the west is doing what it is.
>>539036684>thats kinda why the west is doing what it is.to cause more suffering?
>>539036775>to cause more suffering?no because lots less people in the world want to be a part of russia than be a part of NATO by far (sorry this is just objective truth, you are a retard if you wouldnt see the sense in this)so the west is basically doing what its cotninually done and just saying "ok so come be a part of our world then"and most the people in ukraine would prefer western val;ues over russian values so, its not a bad investment to keep russia broken up to keep influence over what used to be its territories. like people are doing that specifically bc they are our enemies and we dont want them to have power.and most their people dont even prefer them anyways, so westerners are the natural good guys of the world again without even having to try..
>>539036412flatlands biome
These are the same people that say borders aren't real
>>539037038>>539036412your argument is actualkly kinda the same as the argument against the iran war. you could say>war bad!! just LEAVE THEM ALONE! but then again, iranians themselves ive actually spoken to, or heard from, in any situation, other than poor farmers with no idea what the fuck is going on in the world outside of islam, which honestly westerners dont like and we should stop tolerating too much, have expressed their complete gratitude to israel and america for giving them the chance to get the fuck out of the 3rd world. this is only a problem to people who dont realize that the west is the best in every way. every territory that westerners have interfered with is actually extremely grateful for it. the west is basically like the white cha with money and all the coolest stuff the world has to offer, while every other country is basically like a bitch that wants to get fucked by him, whether they admit it or notso yewah "geopolitics" arent real, westernism and savagery is all thats real, and were just pretending thats not the case to be nice when we can.
>>539037361>the west is basically like the white cha with money and all the coolest stuff the world has to offer, while every other country is basically like a bitch that wants to get fucked by him, whether they admit it or not>>539036412and one more thingwhile the west is basically the embodiment of "white chad with manners and money and much more to offer than the rest of the world by FAR lmaoyou are a seething brownoid. and maybe you should just hope someday westerners begin moving to your area, and maybe your kids or grandkids fuinds one liberal enough to let them marry into the family, without realizing that theyre letting a subhuman into a western white family XD
>>539037038>no because lots less people in the world want to be a part of russia than be a part of NATO by far1. Russia is a country2. NATO is an institution3. No, those countries don't need to be "part of Russia" or "part of NATO". Who prevents them from just being themselves and acting as friendly neighbours?>so the west is basically doing what its cotninually done and just saying "ok so come be a part of our world then"NATO is not "part of the western world".It is a ~70 year old treaty. Every country on this list is tens of times older than that.Treaties are temporary, and last at best ~100 years.>and most the people in ukraine would prefer western val;ues over russian values sowhat values exactly?>its not a bad investment to keep russia broken up to keep influence over what used to be its territoriesso like I said, your goal is endless suffering in Europe?>like people are doing that specifically bc they are our enemies and we dont want them to have power.What did Russia do to you exactly?>and most their people dont even prefer them anyways, so westerners are the natural goodDoes Latin America agree that US is the good guy?
>>539037361>but then again, iranians themselves ive actually spoken to, or heard from, in any situation, other than poor farmers with no idea what the fuck is going on in the world outside of islam, which honestly westerners dont like and we should stop tolerating too much, have expressed their complete gratitude to israel and americaif you spoke to an arab, who expresses complete gratitude to someone who treats arabs worse than cattle, then I am sorry to inform you that you spoke to a person who had betrayed humanity and his own dignitythere is a universal term for such people, it's called>libtard
>>539037361>other than poor farmers with no idea what the fuck is going on in the world outside of islamand actually this sint real either. even the poor farmers are pretty cool with US troops. picrel is american troops literally staying with opium farmers in afghanistan, which theyve continually one everywhere since theyve continually been welcomed basically everywhere, even by poors. there are very few ppl in iran who actually -dont- want to be a part of the western world lmao, and thats kinda why libs here get completely shit on in the end, every time. people who have never been a part of the miltiary or had family in the military are the only people so far from reality that they can actually defend subhumans and pretend that their 'values' are even halfway comparable to western ones.
Only the dumb people add a "geo" Infront of everything which is political, like a marker to elevate their impression from politics.I've read an article from the "most intellectual German right wing" journal named "Sezession" which had unironically 17 times "geo" added in front of words on just ONE SINGLE PAGE.Only a clown actually uses "Geopolitics" and feels like "oh yeah, I really know what's going on, I'm the smart in the room".Spoiler: No, you don't. You are a weak faggot which has no power as well as no plan what politic includes. That's why you use dumb words in a really inflationary way.
>>539037361>>539037476>>539037903talking to yourself is a great sign of narcissism
>>539038092do you live in a fantasy where geography, time and space don't exist?
>>539037903>people who have never been a part of the miltiary or had family in the military are the only people so far from reality that they can actually defend subhumans and pretend that their 'values' are even halfway comparable to western ones.even the nonwhites are actually themselves like ultra fucking grateful to get a chance at getting to practice western values. NOONE outside the most contrarian libs of the west can actually defend any of that at all. indians and asians, and arabs are proud to be able to be weclomed by white people and theyre happy to just take that. white people in teh west are -so- supreme that they have never had to recognize anyone else superiority, so they see it as "oppression" when superior people literally share their superior ways with inferiors, because they are too privileged to have ever even had to -recognize- anyone as their superior. in their world, they are the top of the hierarchy, and the dont realize that is honestly ultra rare and privileged.blacks and mexicans are a problem here because libs have done their best to -actually- convince them that they were being oppressed, and that they shouldnt have just been grateful to be allowed to be part of the western world, like they should have. bc its objectively better than theirs in every way that matters
>>539038099no i just had a lot to share and you havent been able to argue with any of it so i just kept sharing. now im done ig because this has been a compelte blowout, as it always is
>>539037618>if you spoke to an arab, who expresses complete gratitude to someone who treats arabs worse than cattle, then I am sorry to inform you that you spoke to a person who had betrayed humanity and his own dignityIranians aren't arabs you clueless monkey.
>>539037618no theyre actually doing whats best for themselves. theres objective truth and knowledge, and the west has basically done its best to exploit that in ever yfucking way that it can, and its objectively better than praying to allah or etc. -nobody- gives a fuck about any of that unless they basically have to lol. and denying superior ways to defend inferior ways just gets ppl left behind
>>539036412Geopolitics do matter but your argument is losing some logical connections there. What are you even trying to say? Mongol invasion didn't happen? Russo-Japan war didn't happen because of mountains? >>539038155You're mostly correct for the past 80 years or so but the west is not the same anymore, that's why geopolitics started to matter again lately. Even for little average guys who needs to worry about finance, where to even put their little hard earned money somewhere cos house that are even worth buying are too expensive anyways. It's worse. Only really 10 real humans even post here anymore at any given time throughout the day. Only the generals go over 300 replies now. You cannot unsee this. But generals are glorified circlejerk chat rooms now, they recognize each other with tripfagging. /pol/ is just as low traffic as any other altchans now. Other "users" you see, many are just bots repeating same lines or if they are humans they are just jannie's Discord / Telegram circlejerk members and they lurk here & report & bans you if you post something they don't like. You gotta start looking for some alternatives now before it's too late. Next year, you will start to regret not listening to me. Not telling you to leave or giving up. It could just be like emergency communication network. But why next year? and why are they pushing chat control now? The war will just keep escalating tit-for-tat style. They're making calculated moves arranged months ahead. For now, due to the nature of modern computer architecture, age verification cannot prevent anonymous profiles from bypassing it. So you've got to be looking for other no signups, no phone number required platforms for starters. Maybe this anon had the right ideas check it out - https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/538961384/#q538964244 Thank you for your attention to this matter anons.
>>539038220>no i just had a lot to share and you havent been able to argue with any of itI am not going to argue with a person who's talking to himself.I don't know if your problems of communication come from "western values", but you need to learn normal human discource before you begin to except people to respond to you
>>539038427>no theyre actually doing whats best for themselvesbetraying your family is never best for yourself. It is a path toward misery and abandonment.Imagine you get married, and your wife dislikes your habits. Instead of talking to you about your habits, she asks another man to beat you up.Is that western values?
>>539038444>You're mostly correct for the past 80 years or so but the west is not the same anymore, that's why geopolitics started to matter again lately. Even for little average guys who needs to worry about finance, where to even put their little hard earned money somewhere cos house that are even worth buying are too expensive anyways.yeah i know, the west is struggling right now, a lot because we stopped recognizing ourselves as the best, and started giving out too much free credit to others. thats why "white pride" and stuff like that has become being a thing agian, because ppl are realizing it wasnt proud mexicans or black ppl who have continually formed good nations and societies eveywhere they went.and, for some reason, lots of good things like family are basically actually villainized by the elft bc weve allowed them to become too delusional in their echo chambers, trying to tell everyone else how it supposedly is, without having to actually fucking experience any hardship at all -ever- basically. and they kinda sold out their kids and grandkids out of stupidity, due to it.im glad you care about things, a lot of ppl are starting to
>>539038673>yeah i know, the west is struggling right now, a lot because we stopped recognizing ourselves as the bestquite the opposite, you continue to treat yourself as the golden city on the hill, while having nothing to show for it.Being humble, fair, and pious is what defines your greatness. Not arrogance. People do not follow arrogant leaders
>>539038572>betraying your family is never best for yourself. It is a path toward misery and abandonment.how is it betraying your family to provide them with better things than what you had in basically every way? dooming your family to poverty and desolation bc "muh leftards haaa" as if you even know what the fuck that is, isnt smart, its the reason white people continue winning effortlessly.
>>539038768>how is it betraying your family to provide them with better things than what you had in basically every way? dooming your family to poverty and desolation bc "muh leftards haaa" as if you even know what the fuck that is, isnt smart, its the reason white people continue winning effortlessly.this sentence made no semantic sensecan you rephrase in normal english?
>>539038444>Mongol invasion didn't happen? Russo-Japan war didn't happen because of mountains?read my entire post again, and you won't ask dumb questionsMongol invasion happened where exactly? Oh right, within the geographic boundaries I defined on OP post? How strange.
>>539038725>while having nothing to show for it.no we really have -everything- to show for it thats why everyone else seethes
>>539038932>no we really have -everything- to show for it thats why everyone else seethesnamely what?- highest debt in the world- source of transgenders- source of LGBT parades- source of nigger violence- highest level of shooting homocides- highest amount of lost wars- highest amount of invasions of foreign nationslist is endless
>>539038917Temüjin originally lived waaaay below that red line. It was not really that long ago. Are you one of these retards who believe Temüjin was white? do even know why he fianlly decided to chimp out?
>>539039076are you one of those retards who still didn't learn that mongol invasions was the reason why russia became so big?
>>539036412Scandinavia and Finland kinda look like a cock and balls.
>>539036412We're in the atomic age. None of that shit matters anymore. Your point is moot.
>>539038932>>539039002forgot to add:- highest number of prisoners in the world- highest obesity in the world- food culture stolen from europe- language stolen from europe- religion stolen from europe- scientists stolen from europe- first (and only) country to drop nukes on civilian cities
>>539039127Russia is occupying waaay further down than that red line now because people in East Asia believed your lies and still want to expand. That's exactly why Temujin decided to chimp out. Yeah you were so retard to expand west so they helped you sort that shit out in the west and never come east again. You currently have violated this thousand years old brother pact and people who remember, remembers forever, brother. Perhaps are you one of these people? picrel
>>539036412>then everyone living there must cooperate and be friendly and good-natured to all neighbours.Which pretty much how all countries in that region behaves with exception of Russia and it's vassal state of Belarus. Russia is the problem here. Russian state must collapse and re-design itself, much like Germany did after WW2. It's literally the only way.
>>539039501not a single shit made sense in your postwho is brother? who helped who? who is "people in East Asia"?try harder next time
>>539036684>russia isnt a good place to live, thats kinda why the west is doing what it is.You are fucking criminals and your demise will come soon. I'm talking about the USA.WAR, WAR, WAR.FAT, FAT, FAT.GUNS, GUNS, GUNS.TRANS, TRANS TRANS.That should be your new anthem.The United States of Nigger Pedos.
>>539039529>Which pretty much how all countries in that region behaves with exception of Russia and it's vassal state of Belarusjoining NATO =/= being friendlykind reminder that Russia also wanted to join NATO, but was rejected. If you have basic idea of how logic works, then you'd understand that they joined NATO against Russia, and not for or with Russia.
>>539036775Yes. Sucks to suck, if they didn't want to suffer they shouldn't have been born in Russia.
>>539039575oy vey!
>>539039284Sweden and Finland are cock and balls that hang over rest of European Union. That's the main reason why Norway must join EU.
>>539039644great argument, professors would love you
>>539039630>Yes. Sucks to suck, if they didn't want to suffer they shouldn't have been born in Russia.you can say the same about Ukraine.And you know whats funny?By total suicide rate, Lithuania is #1 in Europe, even if Lithuania is a member of EU and NATO
>>539039351>>539039002yeah we have -everything- like i said, we are known for everything good and bad basically thats happened in the world for the past ~100 years. we could afford to let the bad go on, bc things were -so- good for so long, bc we have so many good things tooalso most of our food is different from european food, we basically just took the best from everyone and "americanized" it by throwing away the ret. so american food is basically "americanized" chinese, mexican, indian, or whatever the fuck else you could imagine. that is everything is here. we are known for everything bc of that, and many other reasons.and like i said, since white people in the west are just so effortlessly supreme, we can let this go on, and still very easily call it a "white country" without much insecuritythe main reason crime has skyrocketed btw like you mentioned, it has everything to do as -i- mentioned with white people not recognizing how supreme they really even are, and mistaking themselves as being equals with ppl they are actually just -so- hierarchically supreme next to,that they never shouldve entertained their shit the way we seemingly have. at all
>>539039673You know what I was talking about. You needed help from North Korea again. So in your logic, anything outside of that red line should be returned to original inhabitants? You resorted to personal attack first, oy vey shut it down !!!
>>5390397771. USA does not believe in geopolitics because it is protected by oceans from both sides, and there is no-one nearby who could invade them.2. The success of USA's economy began only after they discovered oil. Before oil they were literally a uppity ex-colony that had no purpose nor significance in the world.3. USA was built by criminals and expats who escaped Europe because they disagreed with Monarchic rule and cultural constraints.4. Money is the only reason anyone in the world is attracted to the US. Because there is nothing else: no history, no culture, no values.5. American food is: Mexican, European, Asian. (note how not distinctively American)
>>539039779North Korea is part of Russia?
>>539039607>joining NATO =/= being friendlyNATO is pact against Russia because Russia is terrible neighbour. It wouldn't exist right now if only Russia didn't behave like it does.Even before joining NATO Sweden or Finland didn't had guarded border with it's NATO neighbours because relations between all these countries are correct. That means Russia is the problem in here, not everyone else.
>>539039866>NATO is pact against Russia because Russia is terrible neighbourhistorically inaccurate1. NATO is a pact of western European nations against USSR, after USSR won WW2 and reached Germany. 2. The purpose of NATO was to limit the expansion of communism to Western Europe.3. When USSR collapsed, it pacefully let go of Soviet Republics, and Russia even agreed to pay for all the debts of those republics from Russia's own pocket.4. NATO expanded into incorporating post-Soviet republics, while Russia was preaching peaceful friendly co-existence.5. After post-Soviet republics joined NATO, they began designing their policies aimed at blocking Russia's trade and business with western Europe, and at sabotaging any possibility of friendly relations between east and west.6. During the EaP project, massively financed and pushed by Poland and Baltics, the hyper-fixation on pulling Ukraine out of Russia's sphere of influence into EU led to the war we have now.7. And in all of this time, what did Russia do to EU, NATO, Poland, Baltics, Finland? Nothing. It just preached friendly relations, and was rejected.
>>539039645Perhaps if they come together they will once again impregnate Europe.
>>539040063That's why NATO would die out after collapse of USSR, only if Russia didn't behave like USSR's younger, retarded brother.
>>539037618Arabs treat arabs worse than cattle btw
>>539039584>guns badFuck you I think gun culture is probably the best thing to come out of the USA
>>539037476>the west is basically the embodiment of "white chad with manners and moneyA seething woman with divorce money would be a far better summary.>>539038673>ppl are realizing it wasnt proud mexicans or black ppl who have continually formed good nations and societies eveywhere they went.What people are realizing is that the reasons for this are entirely genetic even if that can't pinpoint exactly what. It's why 'western values' are scheduled for self deletion. If you know you're the best but you allow yourself to be subverted and diluted by the very sewage you differentiated yourself from, you're a fucking retard and your system is faulty.
>>539036412>Most of these niggers live in the westOk rabbi..Another jew poster, blaming white people for jewish atrocities.
>>539039865You don't know North Korea is doing significant help in Ukraine? if you're not even Russian draft dodger, what is this? your argument does not even sit well with Russia's official narrative. Russia just want Crimea back. Let em choose between losing Odessa or denazify(whatever this means)
>>539039777You are so bad at this LARP. At least capitalize White next time.>we can let this go on, and still very easily call it a "white country" without much insecurityNo we can't, you're honestly retarded. Our cities are basically Brazil with a cash injection and institutions still treat Whites like 2nd class citizens.
