When I see a piece of media from a Russia of old, it feels so bizarre. Even if it's from just a decade ago, when Crimea had already happened, it feels so weird, like it was another country still. Free travel to/from Western countries. Actors, artists, politicians and scientists from USA being courted at the highest reaches of Russian society. Global brands not just trading, but actually investing big in local economy without much problem. And it's not just about foreign policy, country itself was way more... open? Russian pop culture had less censorship, press was controlled, but nowhere near as harsh. And if you go deeper into the aughts, there was this nascent feeling of actual political opposition to Kremlins regime. Various government officials trying to finance their own political parties.But it becomes even more bizarre when you hit the late USSR era. Satirical writers openly criticized Soviet intervention into Afghanistan. Like, imagine that!Everything went down the drain in a span of decade. HOW?!
If I was an Indian bitching about India, you would engage for sure.
>>539081749Sorry tldr, cool pic, weird hybrids.
>>539080975I'm genuinely convinced your people are cursed, not because I hate you or have any ill feelings towards you, your nation etc, and I don't have any strong feelings about the current conflict either way, it's fucked on both sides, but your history is just fucking dark, it's just an endless cycle of needless misery that seems to permeate your people.
>>539081749I'm kinda not sure what your main point is
>>539081846Actual chuds, Baltic Finns.>>539081865You need to study more history then. Your perception of Russian is, ironically, akin to a peculiar type of Russian "woe is mine" narcissists.
Good. I hope Russia implodes.
>>539080975You are always fucking around. Every few decades you find out. This is one of the finding out times.Big one too.
>>539080975>"HOW?!"
>>539082123This. Gay man killed russia.
>>539080975>we had heckin amerimutt celebrities visiting woweego to ukraine if you want to meet ben stiller, faggot
>>539082123go back to shilling for kikes in /pig/ egyptroon
>>539081951Cultural shift was so rapid. Process that was brewing in here for quarter of a century was reversed so fast. It feels so inorganic, hell.>>539082076Look. I'm sorry for that whole Abkhazia/Ossetia thing.>>539082088Nobody fucked around, everything was so nice.>>539082231Come on, I loved his comedies. Blue Steel, man!
>>539080975https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHcSocial media has primed an environment where this type of degeneracy is not only accepted, it thrives. Social media desensitizes and radicalizes even moderates into believing heinous and abhorrent behavior is acceptable under the correct context. Spend just 5 minutes on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, you will find hordes of these deranged people. They exist among us. The FBI knows about them but never acts until it is far too late. Western society is on a one-way fast track to collapse as long as social media continues to destroy minds and decay the culture.
>>539080975>Free travel to/from Western countries.Why would you even want to travel to some degenerate shithole overrun by brown people>Actors, artists, politicians and scientists from USA being courted at the highest reaches of Russian society. Niggers, jews and troons>Global brands not just trading, but actually investing big in local economy without much problem.Do you really want companies like Uber and Bolt importing infinite jeets, cause that's how you get them>Russian pop culture had less censorship, press was controlled, but nowhere near as harsh.Censoring boon tunes, oh no the horror
Putin as he got older grew more paranoid, authoritarian etc.
It is even stranger for me. I am a russian who has never been to russia, or europe, or anywhere in the slavic world, I was born in israel and lived in canada since early childhood. I refused to assimilate in both countries having sworn to myself to remain russian. Much of my world view of the homeland was from media, some childhood cartoons, documentaries etc but most came from my parents who still spoke and thought as they did 50 years ago in the 1970s golden age. I read much of old books and films etc and the ideal russia in my head is so much different from reality. You think you feel alien in your country, imagine what I feel like when the brutal depressing realization of the bolsheviks having won sets in. I know that if i visited or moved to russia today I would be an alien there, not just the cultural shift but the language shift too. What the fuck is wrong with people from what i see on the internet, half the words they use come from english. Why use word Lyke when you can spell Nravecho? Can you explain?
>>539080975>Everything went down the drain in a span of decade. HOW?!What decade are you talking about exactly? This last one with Putin, or about the fall of USSR?
>>539080975It is the same in Europe, everything goes to shit. Also look at US there it is really crazy. I think for Russia isolation in such times is not that bad idea. There is nothing to miss.
>>539082826>I was born in israel
>>539082553Scary stuff indeed.>>539082611Are you really Polish?>>539082709But it's not just Putin, like most of the upper echelon went bonkers for some reason.>>539082826Bolsheviks did lose in the end. Modern day Putinism is some bizarre form of autocracy without ideology.>Why use word Lyke when you can spell NravechoYoungster enjoy dumb cool things. >>539083038Last decade of Putin.
>>539083407Polish Canadian, close enough
>>539083634Elaborate, please. Are you partially Canadian in terms of ethnicity? Or is it citizenship?
>>539080975Long story short, Jews were pissed that Putin out maneuvered them in the collapse of the USSR and are now trying to finish him off for good so they can install a Zionist puppet regime. Btw Putin is the moderate compared to actual crazies like Medvedev.
>>539083298As if you chose to incarnate in Poland. I did not choose to have my Russian soul to be incarnated in Palestine. I do personally do not recognize the Zionist Entity known formally as The State Of Israel, but say it since that is what my birth certificate says. Now onto you my fellow "goy". Your father was a Jew as as was your mother. As such it was for a thousand generations since you were exiled from Spain and you then took off your little people hat, bleached your hair, and applied whitening powder on your skins, and thus you shout I AM A SLAV! Alas, you are not. >>539083634Met one of your kind here in the prairies, believe it or not, was an actual Jew from what I could tell.
>>539083816Dad is an ethnic Canadian, moms Polish
>>539083860Dude, you're either trolling or took the /pol/-pill seriously. Medvedev plays this unhinged retard persona just for Putin to spare him. Basically discredits himself to not to be seen as a possible contender for the throne. There are worse people than Putin around him, I'll give you that. Kovalchuk, for example.
>>539083407True. But the fact is, the Russia of old, aka White Russia is gone and it will never come back. I remember once reading that the reason russian flag is Red White Blue is because it was based on American ideals, a hope to make a new Russia free as America, what did we get? Point being, the Russia I have in my head simply does not exist any more, neither the USSR Russia, nor the Russia of Dostoevsky and the Czars. I am a man whos homeland died before his birth. I am an alien to my own homeland. >>539084178Wtf are you doing in Poland? Moved due to family?
>>539084178Ah, so that explains your disdain towards the West. Rest assured, it's not irreversible. And it wouldn't be as bad if Putin didn't try to subvert Europe and just played along with modernization of Russian society.
>>539084355I moved here for uni and now I work here. I speak fluent Polish so it isn't much of an issue.
>>539084390>it's not irreversibleClearly you don't travel abroad much, its bad like irreversibly bad.
Jews mostly. There's a lot of jews that really, really want to get back at Russia for kicking them out. Your idiot country doesn't let you name them though.
>>539084228They have grudge. They were investing trillions of stolen resources into Europe and saw themselves as nu-nobility. And gayropeans stole everything from them, making all their misdeeds here basically evil for nothing. Naturally they feel deeply betrayed and wronged by the Europe. They will seek revenge. Average Russians don't have that personal level grudge like those fuckers have. They do hate European elites' guts.
>>539084228Kovalchuk? The hockey player????
>>539084911>Average Russians don't have that personal level grudge like those fuckers have>Fucking Anglo Saxi!
>>539084228Also, why hasn’t Russia considered a eugenics breeding program at this point? I’m not trolling at all. If they had started such a thing 50 years ago think about how much better y’all’s situation would be.
>>539084815Is it actually better living in Poland than it is here in Canada, i suppose it depends on what part of "here" or "there". Is the quality of life overall better for normal working people our age? >>539084835They never got kicked out. The moment the country when to shit they jumped off like lice from a dog onto the next blood bag they could suck.
>>539080975I feel a strange connection with russiabros because Jews want nothing more than to hollow out countries out from the inside. In addition this picture makes me realize the yurogolians are similar to our relationship with niggers.
>>539084815It's not as bad as post WW1 Europe or post Mao China. Come on, don't be so gloom.>>539084911Is it really true than European elites just told them to fuck off? I though aside from some property arrests here and there, most of their asses can be recovered or still intact, even.>>539084939https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yury_Kovalchuk
>>539085156>In addition this picture makes me realize the yurogolians are similar to our relationship with niggerChuds are ancient finno-ugric people, what are you on about.
>>539085010>Fucking Anglo Saxi!This shit is forced by Putin and, ironically, by Kovalchuk I mentioned earlier. Most of people didn't care.
>>539085491Yeah so are niggers do they not teach you the story of yakkub?
>>53908186566MLol retard
>>539083883ur jew
>>539085696Come on, man. Stop pulling my leg, serious thread.
It starts with a J and ends with ews. After Boris, who did his successors serve? Israel...
>>539085337>just told them to fuck off?No, they stile all their shit, just like they stole all Russian Empire nobles shit once commies destroyed Russia. You see, those corrupt fuckers were giving trillions, and they simply stole of of that. So they were pillaging the country they are not locked in and whose economy is in shit because they send all money to the people that they are not fighting against. It's really ironic. But for them. You can imagine how angry they are. Serves them right. But it's their right to seek revenge, sure, let them kill each other. Both are evil thieving fags.>>539085010That's propaganda. Your elites are evil, objectively speaking, your nation is just serfs they oppress. We know average bong lives in 1984 just as we do.
>>539085043The descendants of the Bolsheviks want to break Russia into a million pieces. That's who's behind the Ukraine shit.
>>539085895>Your elites are evil, objectively speaking, your nation is just serfs they oppress. We know average bong lives in 1984 just as we do.>Fucking Anglo Saxi!
>>539084178>ethnic Canadian
>>539086096Ethnic Canadian means wasp or French. Dont play retarded
>>539086043He did specify the elites though.
>>539085917Exactly. My world view is that Russia died in the Russian-Soviet war over 100 years ago. Everyone who was noble and honorable fled, those that could not or did not want to ended up with posterity of conditioning to breed out the last remains of freedom and agency, mass purges helped on a genetic level I think Thus what remains in Russia is no longer the cream of the crop. They have square heads and square thinking. I don't exactly see a flow of people to Russia in the past century, more like a mass exodus from Russia at any available moment.>>539085837ur serb>>539086096This was my thoughts when I read that. What the fuck is an Ethnic Canadian in the modern day?
>>539085043Overall yeah, I'd say it is. You can actually buy a home here for starters. Women are no where near as insane as they're in Canada. The food quality is better. The pay is obviously lower but so are the expenses.People can be rude, but I still prefer it over the superficial fake niceness of Canadians, where everyone avoids confrontation, acts all friendly and polite but then abandons you when things become inconvenient.
>>539080975Bro what Putin and his cronies is/has been doing to the average Russian person is fucking sickening. The faggot wants USSR borders, but with Tsarist power. I started teaching myself Russian before the war popped off. Since then I've been on and off about it because it all seems useless. I would love to use my Russian language skills to travel all the beautiful CIS countries, find and talk to the REAL people of these countries. Not uppity Moscovite pidors who are protected from the horrors of the regime.Well, I'm still just halfheartedly studying. I still watch Russian youtubers, movies, shows, listen to all sorts of Russian music at work. But sometimes it still feels useless.I think I'd make a good teacher, an English teacher. They don't make much money, but I just find Russian people to be way too similar to Americans for all the good AND bad reasons. I can't help but know this is true in my brain. The more I get ingratiated in your culture and society via media. Perhaps I'm off base as I've never actually been there.My first stop will be Peterburg, check out the historical shit like a dumb ass tourist (you just have to). Then IMMEDIATELY get on a train/rent a car and fuck off somewhere REAL, where there are REAL Russians. Like if you came to my country I would not tell you to go to New York, or LA. Just get on the highway and start driving to little towns, the people will treat you good, perhaps at first a little guarded.
>>539080975>HOW?!You know exactly how. The more corrupt a regime, the more oppression it does.
>>539086373>Russiaboo pastaIt’s been too long, my old friend.
>>539086373Me on the left.
>>539086456I'm not a Russiaboo. Next time just say, "I'm not reading all that" lol.
>>539086096Anglo, the founding stock. Yeah, it's gotten that bad that you have to specify it, otherwise people think you're an indian.
>>539082375>It feels so inorganic, hell.This is what westoids don't understand.Hungary was in a similar position, ironically, the cancer coming from Russia. Literal news articles translated word for word from Russian foul mouthed garbage, from the early 2000s.But we managed to shake this cancer off now.Why didn't you leave that shithole yet? You can still cross before they build a border fence. You have to. It's not getting better for your cunt for the next 100 years.
>>539085895>commies destroyed Russia.Before commies you were a medieval shithole 100y behind EuropeDuring commies you were a military and scientific superpower. In 40 years from peasants to first space faring nationAfter commies you are back to being a shithole and ANY power, military or otherwise, that you still have is the legacy of communism, your nukes for example.Not to mention that you let a bunch of countries leave and now America uses them to shit in your plate while laughing safely from the back row.Lmao ABSOLUTE SUBHUMANS OF FAILURE
>>539086600Yes, yes…of course. You go to St. Petersburg drink much much vodka! Ivan-san!
>>539086229>Everyone who was noble and honorable fledJews aren't noble and honorable and you're not Russian, you're a Jew
>>539080975Russia has long been a bastion for openness, freedom and democracy until very recently
>>539086799I am quite sure of what I am and what I am not. I don't need posterity of Turkish rape babys to tell me what I am. You're not Croat, you're a Serb. Makes you seethe doesn't it?
>>539086732READ NIGGA READ.Russian is the Lingua franca of the region. That's why I started learning it. Learning it allows you to travel to Russia, Moldova, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus and more. Ukrainians, well they don't really like speaking Russian to anyone anymore. But my point still stands, if you would read.
>>539086373>The faggot wants USSR borders, but with Tsarist powerNice effort post Eglin nigger did you write it or sergeant Ramirez
>>539086705Before the commies Russia was further in the west and south than soviets managed to spread after WW2. You can call us backward and subhuman, but it's we who are always a menace to your tiny countries that emerge and dissolve into nothingness all the time. You are fake nations. We survived crusades, mongols, trumpled several European Empires. What are you? Some hateful specie from balkans that has nothing to be proud of other than massacring some civilians of their neighboring tribes? Go on, yap some more. What was your people doing 100 years ago, btw? Cleaning german owner boots?
>>539085895>No, they stile all their shitwtf did they steal ? you say that yuro elite stole something that was stolen from the russian people but what did they steal ? only thing you have to offer is petrol isn't it ? and it was paid forOverall the ONE thing Russia had to do was to be humble just like we, the germans, the brits had to do, and stay in their territory. Don't start shit with your neighbour, don't threaten noooooks periodically for no reasons... just cooperate with the other yuros. You have a shit load of resources they would've been very happy to trade and even eventually welcome you in the union itself. Of course Americans and Chinese and others wouldn't want Europe (continent) to be united but you just had to think for a bit and stay low. No aggression, no war. It's not that hard.
>>539086867You are too autistic to read your mother tongue my guess is you will be beheaded immediately upon arrival in whichever Soviet bloc you land on. God willing.
>>539085895>waaaaah why can't we invade and genocide a European country without any consequences waaaaah
>>539086946War in Europe was the norm until it was judaized. You see what cooperation has brought your continental brethren.
>>539086946Everything. Money, property, gardens, wineries, their beloved yachts - all that trash they were robbing our country for. Now they hate you. On a personal level. Good.
Well that escalated quickly
>>539087058>You see what cooperation has brought your continental brethren.the only reason we're stuck in our situation is because you vampirized everything during WW1 and WW2 because autistic germans risked Europe's hegemony to be on top.
>>539086862You are a Jew. Correct ? Correct.>Muh you're a Turkish rape baby Serb muhuhuhuhuYou're just seething because somebody called you what you are>>539086928You're missing the point, imbecileYou claimed Communists destroyed Russia but the reality is that they made you into a superpower and their legacy still protects you to this day.You were a shithole before and after>Muh we survivedWe all did. Just surviving is not a great slava
>>539086867Why do you seek the approval of someone who will never care about you?
>>539087078ah you mean stole because of the current war ? sanctions ? Then I don't care. They should all die and it'd be better if you were the ones to kill them for revenge.
>>539086946>be humble just like we, the germans, the brits had to do, and stay in their territory. >Don't start shit with your neighbour,Is this motherfucker for realYou're either a shill, a retard or, heaven help me, a redditor from r/europe
>>539087203>You're missing the point, imbecileI'm pretty on point. We saw several rised of your European Empires. All perished. And it's not even yours, you are just a tiny germanified slav tribe that was always treated as second class people. And honestly to these days. What is the source of your uppity, german slave fag?
>>539087156>You*JewsGB France and the lot had an unquenchable thirst for Jewish credit and the last thing they’d allow was the Germans to rid the world of the source for their cheap fix.
>>539087318what's your issue, radu
>>539087203What the fuck went wrong in your life in general to wake up like this. I am not isolating this to you calling me a Jew, I mean your talking in this entire thread. Do you need a Psychologist or a kick to the throat. Either start talking with respect in this thread or don't bother responding to anyone.
>>539086928This. Statelets like Croatia or the baltic ones should just stfu and let the big dogs talk
>>539087360>I'm pretty on point.No you're not>We saw several rised of your European Empires.Ignoring the atrocious English>Yes there was an Empire and the Tsar. IT WAS BEHIND EUROPE 100 YEARS IN INDUSTRIALIZATION>Then Commies came AND MADE YOU INTO A SUPERPOWER>Then you dismantled it, the system and the states AND NOW YOU'RE AT WAR WITH A FORMER SOVIET REPUBLIC, RETARDS>You're no longer superpower but YOUR NUKES AND SOYUZ ARE THE LEGACY OF COMMUNISTSTherefore>COMMUNISTS DIDN'T DESTROY RUSSIA THEY BUILT ITDo you get the point now imbecile>Oh yeah ? You're a small country, checkmate Kek moron
>>539087220Nah, your people send weapons that kill my people. We were not doing you any harm, we were bleeding so your economies got our stolen money. I don't care if them will kill your elites, we do not like neither. You see, us hating Putin and his cronies doesn't mean we are blind to what your elites are doing. Your western propaganda D&C thing will not work on us, because we fully support the conflict between our elites and your, because they all harmed us in the end and we did nothing to deserve that. That was not very nice.
>>539087401My issue is that you don't know what is happening and you think Russia attacked for no reason at all, so you're a shill or a r/europe NPC>>539087499Say "Israel doesn't have the right to exist, it's on stolen Palestinian land".
>>539087695>we did nothing to deserve thatelites are sending weapons because you - at least the gove - want war. I don't really care about whatever happened prior to Crimea but I do know some people who worked in the government and they went to Petersbourg all the fucking time to sign deals, to set up exchange and joint project but they all had to stop when you invaded your neighbour for no reason except pride or something. That's what there are weapons against you, becayse you broke the peace.I did read /chug/'s document to justify the war on Ukraine, about how Ukraine was an unreliable trading partner etc but that's not enough to warrant fucking killing people. You can do that in Georgia or Afghanistan but not in Europe. It's natural to want to stop you if you do.
>>539087785oh I'm sure Russia had some good reasons to wage war but it should've just done something else. Anything but that. Now it'll pay a price that's too high no matter what happens.
>>539087503Greetings from Istra retard you don't exist
>>539080975>Muh heckin Putin bad please rape my country so I can meet le nigger actorNAFO Ukrainian thread.
>>539087927>oh I'm sure Russia had some good reasons to wage war but it should've just done something else.Absolute retard response and you just confirmed what I said earlier, you have no clue what's happening but r/europe says Putin bad so you just go with the NPC herd
>>539087785Israel doesn't have the right to exist, it's on stolen Palestinian land. I renouce any and all ties I may have had in my life to the Zionist Entity know as The State Of Israel, Judaiam, Zionism, any and all things and matters relating to the Jews. .Does making me copy paste a sentence prove to you i'm not a Jew or something? You think their religion prevents them from saying it on a Mongolian basket weaving forum because they melt like witches?
>>539087863We don't care what you weird excuses are. We saw your gleeful happiness and readiness to do everything to kill our people. We saw your sanctions that spread on common folk, who had no say in the matter. You punished and harmed people who were not at the wrong. You are aggressors. We will remember that. Doesn't mean we will be able to pay you back, don't get me wrong or will break our necks to enact the revenge. It's just if something happens to you, we will do the same. That's reasonable take, no?
>>539088115You poor little clueless kikeI forgive you for being a JewConvert to Christianity.
>>539088169>we will do the sameYou don't have any weapons to send. Or the fuel to send them if you did. Yappy little dog.
>>539080975Look what the globalists are doing to Ukraine, all the faggot shit, exterminating the native population to bring in shitskins.
>>539088169>We saw your gleeful happiness and readiness to do everything to kill our people. We saw your sanctions that spread on common folk, who had no say in the matter. You punished and harmed people who were not at the wrong. You are aggressors.That's exactly how you acted to the Ukrainian, who are supposed to be your brothers/cousins.
>>539088414There are no shitskins in Ukraine. Russia though....Every video now is full of browns.
>>539088205Good shit talk but I have work and am headed off to bed. Have this poem just for you. You will never be a real Croat. You have no Dalmatian coast in your blood, you have no Istrian olive groves, you have no Adriatic salt in your veins. You are a Serb twisted by geography and politics into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “acceptance” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are nostalgic and quietly ashamed of your roots, your “friends” laugh at your thick accent and Serbian habits behind closed doors.Croatians are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of Balkan history have allowed locals to sniff out outsiders with incredible efficiency. Even Serbs who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a Croat. Your jawline and love of rakija are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to charm a local home with you, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they catch you ordering ćevapi with a Serbian accent.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the nostalgia creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight of a homeland you left behind.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a ticket to Belgrade, pack your bags, and plunge into the familiar embrace of the Danube. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Serb is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Serbian.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>539088421Are you retarded? Russia did everything possible to avoid war, the war isn't even between Russia and Ukraine. It's between Russia and Us?EU/NATO, who are using Ukraine (which they overthrew) as a proxy and are forcing all Ukrainians to die in the war via their puppet Zelensky. Why? Lloyd Austin said it outright, to degrade the Russian military. Now that the war is beyond lost, they refuse to have Ukraine surrender. It all proves succinctly that Zelensky only serves foreign powers and not the interest of the Ukrainian people or Ukraine. You do not demographically destroy your country and kill literally every male to "defend your country". That's destroying your country. Any sane leader accountable to the people or serving their interests would have either surrendered to end the human suffering and damage to their own country, or simply not started such a war.
>>539088336You are under impression that this Ukrainian skirmish is going to end Russia. What if I tell you, it wouldn't, just like nothing did before that. What if I tell you, that Russian people despise western propaganda and will never revolt? What is your hope next?
>>539088644>Russia did everything possible to avoid warThen it shouldn't have attacked. Simple as.Then it should just stop killing today. Simple as.>Any sane leader accountable to the people or serving their interests would have either surrendered to end the human suffering and damage to their own country, or simply not started such a war.This exact sentence but for Russia
>>539088684>What is your hope next?Famine. Coming to an oblast near you. But it isn't a hope. You either rebel or it's a reality. Choice is yours.
>>539088644Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap.
>>539080975That was was the most unnecessary, tragic thing to happen in ages. And it will only get worse for russia as more gas plants get taken out that will take years to repair. And for what? 20% of ukraine? was it worth it to russia?
>>539088684why are you proud that you won't revolt ? Hell I want to revolt and I'm certain that my situation is better than all but 20 000 russians or something
>>539088421Yeah, but no. We did not support any effort for anybody to harm ukrainian civilians. You are projecting. We do not seek casualties. Putin cucked multiple times, trying to avoid that. Europe, however, was hellbent on winning against Russia on the battlefield. Not even US, those actually tried to pull out. It was Europe who advised escalation and continues to enable ukrainian genocide by Zelensky. Now you propose to start deporting every ukrainian back, so they will get killed too. You are evil. You want to fight us, but with other people hands, so you enslaved Ukraine and make them your slave army. That evilness won't be forgotten in our lifetime.
>>539088760No. Countries have legitimate security concerns and the US and NATO spent 30 years engineering a war with Russia, but they had to basically force Russia to "attack" so they could go with the BS propaganda narrative. In reality:>Be Russia>Don't want to bu surrounded by hostile NATO bases and weapons>Don't want NATO nuclear systems moved closer to you>Don't want NATO anti-ICBM systems moved closer to you (which would be to degrade or nullify your nuclear deterrent)>Don't want NATO near your major cities or portsThe US said NATO, a cold war anti-USSR alliance would not expand in 1991. It underwent three waves, Russia tolerating the first (poland and Eastern Europe), warning the next would lead to war after the second (Baltics) and war happening in 2008 when the US (who overthrew Georgia in a color revolution a few years prior) had their leader pursue NATO membership. So what did they do? Overthrow Ukraine and have their leader in Ukraine do it. This is the same Russia who lost 20 million civilians when they were attacked in WW2, including 1 million when St. Petersburg was sieged and starved. The US didn't allow Soviet nukes in Cuba and no other country would allow the equivalent either.
>>539089033>We did not support any effort for anybody to harm ukrainian civiliansThere are videos of the initial invasion with your guys killing civilians. Although I assume it's mainly isolated event from evil units.I will say the same for most of Europe's weapons, they are intended to kill russians soldiers or bomb russian factories or other such military (or military adjacent) targets and are in no way intended to be used against civilians. If the shortages are impacting civilians, that's still not targeting them directly. Also that's what you did when you bombed the powerstation and stuff like that/It's tit for tat so we have to stop somewhere even if you want to continue. So stop attacking today and things can end.
>>539080975communist = thiefrussia was pillaged by communistsUK is next
>>539089040So, Russia could have won just by not attacking? Yet they did?Weak.
>>539088863>why are you proud that you won't revolt?Because that what you are counting for apparently, being not very bright. No, not happening.
>>539089245>muh hecking ziggarinos le heckin shot someoneBullshit. Meanwhile Ukraine is waging a war against civilians and civilian infrastructure? Actively bombing civilian trucks? The number 1 party killing civilians is NATO, who killed 2 million Ukrainian males via forced conscription in a country they overthrew and have no plans on ending the war they started.
>>539089438>No, not happening.Fine. Then you will starve. That is your reality.
>>539089456Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap!
>>539080975Russia has a tendency to be centralized around the european seat of power. This seat of power did an analysis on going full throttle, but it didn't turn out quite right. Now the autocrat is holding everyone hostage. Its happening all over. The global elite is older than its ever been and theyre all clinging to power like the desperate and senile old men that they are.We'll get through it rusbro. One way or another
>>539088863>Hell I want to revoltWhy don't you revooolt>A 30yo revooolter>Exrewmely muscular index finger from making a no-no motion while revooolting>Room filled with books about all revooolts everetcWhy don't you revolt cuck
>>539089245>videosOh, videos. You think it's some internet argument? Russian people treat you as existential enemy that enacted acts of war and brought deaths to our people without us doing anything to you. We didn't harm french, did we? No germans either. So, that's how it works for us. You can't wiggle out of that with propaganda takes.
>>539080975Pyхнyм
>>539089245>Although I assume it's mainly isolated event from evil units.This is a woman. Show tits.
>>539080975Hey OP, I have a VHS copy of pic related that I found at a thrift shop and brought home because the production date said 1938 and I'm interested in really old movies. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet, what am I in for?
>>539081865Yea they are cursed alright. Cursed to suffer under 400 years of Jewish plotting to destroy them and Eastern Orthodoxy.
Because you elected Putin for a third time and changed your constitution to give him unlimited power. Even Trump did not do that, and America's reputation will recover when President Trump becomes the first US President to be Impeached, Convicted and Removed from office over his illegal Iran War. This will not happen in Russia, instead you will have Wagner assault Moscow again, and it will be a failed state as Zelensky pisses on you with missiles.All Russians had to do was elect someone normal who wouldn't start land wars. Mighty strong Russia reunified Crimea then Azovostal for nothing in return. Both of which are now major targets Ukraine is wailing on with near total impunity. This is your future, a boot stepping on your face.
>>539081865Russia wasn't always so fucked. The Czar before getting ritually sacrificed by Jews was actually reforming the empire and his son was supposedly much more talented in statecraft to the point it was rumored he was gonna abdicate early.Admittedly I am biased because the USA and Russian Empire used to be buddies before Jews happened. There were even pretty crazy joint projects being planned, like bridge from Alaska to Russia.>>539082375>>539082826Jews.>>539083860Putin was literally selected as a youth leader reward by globohomo. He was always in.>>539085917Ukraine plan to DnC goes on way before this. The Jews planned that shit going on a hundred years when they forcefully broke up the Russian ethnic group and brainwashed them with false identities into hating each other. Ukraine War is just a continuation of a century old planned genocide.
>>539080975You're literally an Azerbaijan monkey you dont know shit.Russia is doing the best it's ever had despite being under heavy sanctions. They're independent and produce their own shit.They've been trying to do trade and possibly even join nato for decades now and they would not let them do anything.
>>539091593Poo in the loo pajeet.
>>539080975This is a lie. I was in Russia a few years ago and it wasn’t like that. Nice try Eglin
>>539091593This. Russia doesn’t need anyone. OP is CIA
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>>539091593>They've been trying to do trade and possibly even join nato for decades now and they would not let them do anything.sure, but imagine the current situation, with the US going isolationist with that retard at the helm. If Russia wasn't at war on the European continent we would have naturally gotten much closer.Sooner or later Russia will be with the rest of Europe except now it will be a battered Russia asking for help to survive, as it often does.
>>539091593Who made the decision to spend money for this bot? Whose mind was this meant to change? Only someone delusional enough to think this is true would pay the token cost for a bot like this. Do I truly inhabit a world where someone is this frivolous with money? Was there no better charity, no personal friend, no psychological operation that this money could have been better spent on?
>>539082375>It feels so inorganic,as your thread, op
>>539081749>Glowie mad nobody cares about his lie thread.You are not a real russian. All real russians know things are better now than ever before
>>539080975Globohomo and kikes.
>>539080975>Everything went down the drain in a span of decade. HOW?!You know why
>>539086043He’s right, fuck you bong.Fuck us too, fuck amerifats as well. Fuck everyone
>>539089738>We're raping and murdering people who are just like us, why are the cops getting involved?Absolute nigger mentality.
>>539080975you dared to oppose israel and their attack dogs bared their fangs at you that instant
>Everything went down the drain in a span of decade. HOW?!you betrayed the soviet dream
>>539092312Niggers with snow.
>>539080975>Everything went down the drain in a span of decade. HOW?!It's a mere reflex of the share of power the white man holds in the world. The world gets worse or better proportionally. Russia just isn't an exception to this rule or do you think things are any better in the rest of the world?>>539082076Impotent rage is one of the most disgusting things a human can do.
>>539080975Greed of locals. Jews. Social media. Mass immigration.4 horsemen of a Nations apocalypse.
>>539082375>Cultural shift was so rapid. Process that was brewing in here for quarter of a century was reversed so fast. It feels so inorganic, hell.>>539083407>But it's not just Putin, like most of the upper echelon went bonkers for some reason.Besides the war in Ukraine, has Russian culture really changed that much? Are most people there very pro-Putin and supportive of the war in Ukraine? I often compare Russia to America, and I think about Trump. Even 10 years after he was first elected, our culture hasn't changed that much. Things are mildly less liberal and left-wing than they were in the mid/late 2010s. But there really isn't some kind of massive right wing cultural surge in the US. Did such a thing really happen in Russia or are the changes you are talking about different from just political opinions shifting?>>539084911>They have grudge. They were investing trillions of stolen resources into Europe and saw themselves as nu-nobility. And gayropeans stole everything from them, making all their misdeeds here basically evil for nothingSource for this? How did Europeans steal everything from Russian oligarchs? I know that there were sanctions and confiscations of some of their assets after the 2014 annexation of Crimea, and then this increased dramatically after the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, but surely this is not the only reason for a cultural shift in Russia. Is the idea here that Russia only wanted Crimea? But that after European elites started sanctioning Russian oligarchs, only then was the plan hatched to invade Ukraine?pic unrelated but posted to stimulate discussion and drive traffic to this interesting thread
