>invests billions in an industry to try to hurt russia>defeated by some cheap iron grid
>>539094662>the thunderdome was right all along
>>539094662You need one drone to make the hole and the others to hit the target
>>539094745if you could make the cage collapse in on itself the number of drones necessary increases significantly
>>539094745Yeah just send 2 drones
>>539094662Its still possible to blow that shit the fuck up. Just wait for someone to open the gate. Fly in.
>>539094773They're literally making thousands per day, anon. Both sides stocking up like fuck.We're about to witness what swarm warfare looks like.
>>539094773this is not a tent design
>>539094662Same copecage design didn't work on their tanks and APCs against smaller FPV drones, what makes them think it's gonna work against a long-range shahab-style drone with an even bigger warhead.
>>539094662Use trampolines dummies.
>>539094662the cost to encase all critical infrastructure in such a fence would be immense and impractical
>>539094824You’d need a tiny drone for that, which can’t be long range (because it’s tiny)
>>539094890It's funny that copecages are so shit that Ukrainians put them on all western tanks they've got. They really must be one nation split by politics because they're both similarly retarded.
>>539094662Irrespective of material there's a million and one ways to get through a net like that, kinetic, chemical or sheer volume of drones or dedicated drones to perform keyhole duties like setting nets on fire, placing breaching charges, or just blowing holes themselves.Literally the only somewhat effective solution I see going forward is bunkers and putting everything underground.
>>539094890Copecages didn’t work But now Israel, US, NATO, China installed same cope cages on their own tanks anyway. It’s always the same story. Laugh at Russia -> then quietly copy Russia
New bomb design, anyone feel free to use it.Outer red layer is a disposable layer (thin sheet aluminum)Yellow is thermiteBlack and red is a conventional bombFly up above the cage, drop, let it rest on cage while the termite eats through, have a timed explosive delay on the secondary.Or just have a termite slug bomb.
>>539094973> Irrespective of material there's a million and one ways to get through a net like that, kinetic, chemical or sheer volume of drones or dedicated drones to perform keyhole duties like setting nets on fire, placing breaching charges, or just blowing holes themselves.You forgot to mention space lasers and telekinesis. But give it a rest. Ukraine doesn’t have the capability to do such complex tasks at long-distance strikes. The only logical solution here is long-range cruise missiles. Not pixie dust
>>539095060Yeah pretty much this, this won't do shit. Ziggers are coping hard.
>>539094890>>539094966>>539095018Copecages are like helmets, they might work sometimes. Maybe. Refuse to wear one at your own risk. If you have a 2% higher chance to not die you might want to take it.
>>539095018just like what Samsung does to Apple>hahaha look they removed the headphone jack>so stupid, lets make an ad that mocks them>removes the headphone jack on their own phones a year later>what jack? what are you talking about?
>>539094730Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls. Dyin' time's here.
>>539094745A drone won't make a hole in that.
>>539095084>But give it a rest. Ukraine doesn’t have the capability to do such complex tasks at long-distance strikes. Sending two drones instead of one is not complex retard,
>>539094662damnhope they don't learn to use thermite or anything
>>539094662And the eternal cat and mouse game continues. It's extremely unlikely this will be a perfect solution.
>>539095236>A drone won't make a hole in that.What's it made of? I don't know of many thin materials that can't be readily compromised.
>>539094662I will belly-laugh next week when Ukraine just double-taps these and they go up in smoke anyway.
>>539094662I can see why a jeet would think this works.
Just put cope cages on everything?
>>539094662That is not going to stop a flamingo missile. Ukraine already evolved.
What’s this going to do against tandem warheads, two drones, or a kinetic penetrator? That’s not near far enough for a larger drone to get stopped. Probably still more than necessary for them to do this. At least this significantly lowers the types of drones that can cause damage. Though it just makes me think a dedicated “cage breaker” drone type will exist to counter these counter systems for smaller explosive FPV drones to come in as a second wave and exploit openings.
>>539095173anon the image you posted is to stop anti-tank rifles causing spalling inside the tank
>>539095236In a steel net?Ofc it will, they carry some pretty nasty bombs.
Russia tests laser anti-drone complex 'Perun'The Svarog center representative told TASS that the Perun laser complex is being tested in Russia. It is designed to counter all types of UAVs and can provide up to 15 minutes of continuous radiation.I can't find the photo of it now, as I saw a similar post several days ago but didn't save it.But basically it's a relatively small laser system, that can be mounted on a pikcup truck, and operated from it.If produced in large enough numbers, hundreds of these could just drive around on city roads, and engage UAVs directly, without using kinetic objects. (meaning there's no need to chase the target, it's just instant strike)
>>539094745Or use a payload with an explosive projectile.
>>539095564penetrating like those antitank rockets
>>5390948552 more weeks, right? And then maybe after your big swarm plan the Ukrainians will take a single inch of territory back? Oh wait we gave up on that entirely, lol. Attacks on global energy it is! "If we can win, the whole world loses." -Ukrainians/Jews
>>539095060What's with chronically online retards being so obsessed with thermite?
>>539095201i hate phones without a headphone jack.
>>539095844>when you mix fuel, metal oxide and metal powder, in just the right way, it burns at 2000° celsius >hot enough to cut through nearly every barrier known to man
>>539094662>just drop grenade or small explosive.from aboveRussiams defeated by basic gravity
>>539095688>Nobody's building thousands of drones anon, you're crazy! Um... Okay then.
>>539094662A dog kennel?
>>539097259>Nobody's building thousands of drones anon, you're crazy! Didn't say that. *Sigh* zoggie shills are arguing with themselves again.
>>539095456steal nets are pretty elastics and most of the flast is wasted in the air, not on the wires
>>539095688Your people are just going to keep dying until jewtin surrenders.
>>539094662Cages won't stop drones for the same reason that they didn't stop javelins.
Like your tiny poo brain it doesn’t work. Did you not notice that as all the oil refineries blew up despite having this stuff? >covered in turd, on purpose.Cretin.
Russians and Russian shills are retarded
>>539095688Imagine having THIS strong of a reaction to a simple observation. No one said a fucking thing about le heckin' wunderwaffe! Sit down, shut up, and stop acting like a fucking child cheering and jeering over sportsball you fucking ninny.
Smelly ‘people’.All the refineries had nets. Go watch the footage of it blowing up. You’re so shitty it’s actually incredible. You incredibly shitty idiots.
>>539098005You still lashed out like a wild nigger.
All the analysts point out the netting not working in every single refinery attack video. >PooWhy do you bother people about them having contempt for you. 70 iQ points aren’t enough for you to understand that you deserve nothing else? Unbelievable Poo moment. You fucking idiots.
Only jeets and other shitskins are pro-russia.
>pooHonestly i prefer actual turds themselves. I mean turds are literally pieces of shit, but they aren’t wobbling at the top end and babbling stupid shit at you.A turd is a turd. But give me turds all day long if it means not having to notice Poo.
>>539094662God Bless Russia.
>>539095844Because you can make it at home with a simple ball mill incredibly easily?
>>539095287Paris Hilton?
>>539098456jews too?
>>539098059>crest drones cant melt steel websstfu
>>539094662Russia is at least trying to harden their critical storage facilities. I feel like the rest of us need to do the same with ours, because drones arent going away anytime soon.
>>539094662makes me think they'll just use 2 drones instead of 1, and maybe also develop a "gatecrasher" model whose explosion is good at clearing away wire fence
>>539094730Tina Turner died when in this timeline?First time (I remember), she died around the release of this movie. Last time was around covid.
>>539094773this, load the first one with thermite or other chemical cancer and watch the cage melt
>>539095173Better get a shovel, you gain +400% in survival. Assault rifle is -66% (friendly fire).
>>539094662>defeatedIs that why you're sending "humanitarian aid" in the form of gasoline to Russia while begging the Ukrainians not to bomb it?
the cope cages they already installed seem to do about diddly and squat
>>539099338>governments: A car needs to meet certain emission standards or you can't sell it our country>also governments: Why yes I will continue to financially and logistically support a war that destroys fossil fuels in massive quantities
>>539098059>It's impossible to blow up a steel netLudicrous cope
>>539094973The answer is just a bigger warhead and fragmentation.
>>539099437That fuel is getting burned either way though. Regardless you can let your enemies win just because fighting them is bad for the environment.
>>539094890this is a jew btw
>>539094662*Send two drones*
>>539098059Wouldn't they just hit the door on it with one and then fly a second inside then?
>>539098176I'll say what I want how I want. Eat a cup of shit.
>>539098264Cry
>>539094662Drone nets have been a thing for years now, fucking retard
>>539099555rules for thee but not for me
>>539094782>two more drones
>>539094662> industrial enterprise drone defense system> a literal chainlink fence roofKek. Gotta love the muliblogger shills and their word salad.
>>539094745Just outfit 500lb fat people with wingsuits and have them kamikaze into it
>>539094662Too little too late.
>>539094662Should of invested in cow dung
>these attacks are worthless>look, our new anti drone cope cage!
Firs they laugh then they use it themselves
>>539101950if the attacks will increase in volume and intensity, then they will become a problem.That's why you prepare.
>>539102208these attacks are so worthless according to vatnik propaganda that they're putting cages on everything. you just can't reason with vatniks. pathological liars.let them eat tandem warheads.
>>539094662>drones get tangled in net>damn it checkov, we will have to break through kineticallyThese clowns are going to reinvent the missile, just watch.
>>539102267The butthurt belt everybody
It seems rather significant that a nation unable to pool enough manpower and resources to field modern vehicles and has been deploying ammunition via mule for almost 2 years is now having to spend manpower and resources building cuck cages all over territory it never planned to be fighting in.
>>539094662Another defensive layer that's going to be defeated by another technological advancement or simply by using more volume. But it's better than nothing I guess.
fun shit: Russians invented machinery to dig those oil tanks deep underground. in Rostov they already finished such one. The whole refinery is more a military fortification. and it wasnt costing only 1 million they got from the insurances. With their bombings NATO is only making Russians nuclear war proof.
>>53910234312 years ago to this day, over one hundred of your countrymen were killed by russian terrorists who shot down MH17.
>>539102644Can we finally see the flight data then instead of you know keep it hidden for national security? Pratprat
> implying a net will stop a plane packed with high explosivesRefineries will keep burning, vatnik.
>>539094662kek and you faggots can't even afford VPNs now
>>539102937A Dutch court convicted the russian terrorists due to overwhelming evidence. If you were actually Dutch you would know this instead of defending russian muslim terrorists on the internet.
>>539094662lmao its just a bigger COPE CAGE. Here we see the pinnacle of Russian innovation.
>>539099437Yeah, wars are retarded, aren't they?
>>539094973>I see going forward is bunkers and putting everything underground.Dwarf mode?
>>539103060Funny that you say that I’am reading the lawsuite right now and no they could not proof who shot the buk rocket and the rocket was shot from a area that was not under control by the russians
>>539098456Real>>539098632Actually yes, 30% of Jews in Israel are Russian in origin.
>>539094662So they best drone defense is just the best nigger defense?Kek
>>539103125The russian terrorists who shot down the plane literally bragged about it on the internet. White people will simply never understand how you russians lie like you breathe and you believe your own lies at the same time as you know you're lying.
>>539103125Western intelligence agencies did not detect a Russian Buk. The US government claimed to have tracked the missile launch via satellite imagery but never presented any evidence. The District Court of The Hague received no satellite or radar data from Washington. Western intelligence agencies did not detect a single Russian air defense system on Ukrainian territory—but did detect seven Ukrainian Buk systems in eastern Ukraine. The Russian government provided primary radar data; these showed no missile or other suspicious object near MH17.
>>539103200Offcourse pratprat now I know you did not read the lawsuit at all
>>539098997Thermite? Are you retarded? Its a cage, not a wwii german gun with a week point
>>539094730see mefeel me hear melove metouch me
>>539103200>The witness a ukranian btwKey witness M58 stated that he had seen the launch of the fatal missile from rebel-held territory, followed by the destruction of MH17. The problem, however, is that the alleged launch site was 26.5 kilometers away from the point of impact. The aircraft was flying at an altitude of ten kilometers, over an area with heavy cloud cover. What M58 describes is physically impossible to see. Moreover, he repeatedly stated that he had witnessed the incident on July 16—the day before the crash.
>>539103125>Russia has always denied any involvement and instead pumped out a range of alternative theories - suggesting a Ukrainian fighter jet fired the missile, or that Ukrainian government forces were responsible, and in some cases fabricated evidence to support their claims.>These have in turn been diligently debunked with material gathered by a team of international investigators, and they were rejected by the Dutch court.>The team found the disintegration of the plane in mid-air was caused by the detonation of a Russian-made 9N314M-type warhead carried on the 9M38M1 missile, launched from the eastern part of Ukraine using a Buk missile system.Why do you lie so blatantly when it takes less than 10 seconds to prove you're lying? You russians are disgusting. You are not Dutch, you are not white, you are not European, nor will you ever be. Go back to russia with your fellow muslim terrorists.
>>539103202The "Ukrainians" region was a seperatist region.Russians originally claim only seperatists were involved as only seperatists were in the Donbass, they also claim they did not provide them with equipment.The Russians have since retracted this claim, they now openly brag that they sent men and equipment into the Donbass.The picture of """seperatists""" celebrating by sitting on the remains of the aircraft is kinda evident.Also why wont anyone buy russian bonds????
>>539103337This is from the lawsuite in The Hague the transcripts themself pratprat
>>539103343>Also why wont anyone buy russian bonds????The russian economy collapsing is all part of the plan. Putin is playing 5d chess. Russia collapsing among acute fuel and food shortages will only make it stronger.
>>539103343I remember this so can we have the flight data then plz?
>>539103379Your source is a kremlin telegram channel, abdul. I don't get why you continue to post such blatant ridiculous lies when you know absolutely nobody will believe them? This is why only the lowest IQ brownoids such as yourself support russia.
>>539103439It’s litterly from the lawsuite transcripts I’am reading right now pratprat
>>539103439The JIT claimed that MH17 was struck by a Buk missile with a specific warhead—the 9N314M—containing over 1,800 butterfly-shaped fragments. That type of warhead leaves behind distinctive butterfly-shaped impact holes, a fact confirmed by experiments conducted by both the JIT and the Russian manufacturer Almaz-Antey. The problem: the wreckage of MH17 shows hardly any such holes. Moreover, based on the damage patterns, Almaz-Antey concluded that the missile had been launched from an area not controlled by pro-Russian rebels. An independent team of American experts, engaged by Pulatov’s lawyers, confirmed this conclusion.Then there are the missile parts found at the crash site. The Public Prosecution Service initially presented these as evidence of a Buk attack but later backed away from that position; in court, the prosecutor stated that it was unclear when the parts had ended up there. Russia claimed it could demonstrate, using documents from 1986, that the serial numbers on those parts pointed to a missile that had been delivered to Ukraine during the Soviet era. The JIT was invited to examine those documents. They did not go.
>>539103474Why don't you post the link to them, instead of quoting kremlin verbatim, shitjeet.
>>539103509So the short of it is>Was not launched from rebel held areas>Independent American researchers confirmed this>Russians have proof that the weapon system was shipped to ukraine in 1986 by providing the serial numbers and other documents> The JIT was invited to examine those documents. They did not go.>If you don’t look at the evidnce it doesn’t existThere is litterly not a iota proof the rebels did it the circumstancial evidence points to Ukraine
>>539103636Just type in The Hague mh17 court transcripts into google
>>539102343>migrants, trannies, nato expansionabsolute vatnik slop
>>539095454It was also used to protect against HEAT rounds by breaking up the plasma stream before the main armor plate. Germans also used grenade mesh to protect open topped vehicles and fortifications.The western allies put sandbags and wire mesh on their tanks to achieve something similar.The red army simply had the infantry mount the tank so their bodies would intercept panzerfaust projectiles during ambushes. Germans then put spall rings on the fausts to rip tanks clean of "armor".
>>539103766I did. Here is what I found:>Eliot Higgins, founder of the investigative platform Bellingcat, delved into the open source evidence. His team identified links with Russia's 53rd Anti Aircraft Missile Brigade, and trawled through 200 soldiers' social media posts to confirm the identity and role of many members of the unit based at a Russian military barracks in Kursk. Bellingcat shared their findings with Dutch prosecutors. He believes the trial has laid bare indisputable proof of Russia's involvement.>"I think at this point, and especially with a guilty verdict," Eliot told us, "anyone who would claim that Russia wasn't involved with this shoot down is really a ridiculous person".You are a ridiculous person. You post kremlin lies without a source, knowing that nobody will believe them, but still do it because you think it boosts your izzat. This is why the entire world is fed up with you brownoids.
>>539103773>Dont want to be genocided by mass immigration aka the kalargi plan?>Your a goddam RUSSIAN>That is your enemy but somehow he doesn’t want you to be genocided>gypsy
>>539103737>Make up shit while using a VPN>They did not goKek nice thirdie speak, ok then I guess.
>>539103840>BellingcatIs a apendex of NCTV ( litteral glowniggers)and JIT is a part of it read the court transcripts yourself not what somebody else tells you
>>539103852Da everybody is a russian comrade
>>539094936Only in kiked states like us. Gotta add that 6666% gorrillion mark up so mr. Noseberg and all his friends gets their fair share
>>539103509>That type of warhead leaves behind distinctive butterfly-shaped impact holesPro tip: at high impact velocity (what was the case with close range warhead detonation) they don't.
>>539095454>*adds two inches of standoff distanceNOOO FAIR ITS USELESS!
>>539094662How does that protect from the drones that drop molten slag? The slag just melts rights through in seconds. Ukies use it sometimes to clear out russians from forested areas.
>>539103850But Russians lead the immigration anon, they actively enable smugglers from places like Syria and Libya to destabilise Europe while actively replacing their own people with Indians and Chechens.They are the multiracial alliance for a reason you dumb gigazigger.>>539103923>Actually your proofs are not real because I said so.Take off the VPN you foreign fuck. >>539103946 No just you. Post hand and outlet.
>>539095236it probably could with conventional munitions. and if conventional munitions don't work, a drone carrying a small linear shaped charge could slice through it.
>>539094936The cost of losing them to airstrikes would be even higher, disingenuous kike
>>539103996>its the Russians sonNigger https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/unpd-egm_200010_un_2001_replacementmigration.pdf
>>539103996Bellingcat is not proof
