Chinese Kimi K3 just defeated Fable in key benchmarks:Terminal-Bench 2.1 (agentic terminal/shell tasks): 88.3 vs. Fable's 84.6 (+3.7). Strong for real engineering workflows. SWE-Marathon: 42.0 vs. 35.0 (+7).Program Bench: 77.8 vs. 76.8 (+1.0).BrowseComp (agentic browsing): 91.2 vs. 88.0.Arena.ai WebDev/Code Arena (human preference for frontend/coding): Kimi K3 #1 at 1,679 vs. Fable 5 at 1,631https://capitalandcompute.net/blog/kimi-k3-explained/https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-moonshot-unveils-worlds-largest-open-ai-model-closing-us-rivals-2026-07-17/Kimi K3 (Moonshot AI) narrows the frontier gap dramatically through extreme cost-efficiency (1/4 Fable 5 pricing), 1M context, and targeted wins in major benchmarks. Better real-world agentic coding/terminal workflows, vastly cheaper scaling, upcoming open weights. 2.8T MoE with hybrid Delta Attention on Huawei Ascend chips, enabling efficient long-horizon execution.Chinese models deliver frontier performance at fraction of cost with sovereign supply chains, commoditizing AI, eroding US pricing power, and accelerating open innovation that could deflate valuations and shift economic dominance. If the AI bubble bursts and tanks US economy, China would be the biggest contributor xDI am 100% sure that next Chinese model after Kimi K3 will be a total dominator, raping Antrophic without lube.
>xDAt least you're kind enough to sign your posts in such a way that people know they can safely ignore them.
>>539096493Better performance for x4 lower price. Same with cars. No wonder Volkswagen, Toyota and others fire hundreds of thousands of people and warn about bankruptcy while China scaled up car export from 1 mln in 2020 to 12 mln in 2026. Marxism-leninism always wins in the end xD
Neat. Hoping the Kimi devs eventually release a flash version that normal people could actually run so there's more options than just GLM, Qwen, and Gemma.
>>539097680confucianism-marxism-leninism-maoism
there's only one answer to this bring in another one million Indian tech experts to Texas and the Silicon Valleyit's either that or extinction
>>539097680Well it didn't win in the begining or middle, but we'll surely win in the endt. Dumbfuck communist
>>539098301>pppppbbbbpbpbpbppbpbpbntttttslop.
>>539098352>another one million Indian tech experts to Texas and the Silicon ValleyASAP. xD
Xi just said that the AI should be equally accessible to every country on Earth and everyone should have a chance to use them for their own good and improve them anyway he likes. Thats why China supports open-source model for its AI platforms, as opposed to market/control-based Mutt-approach xDhttps://x.com/clashreport/status/2078039461821030705
>>539100464>Chinese President Xi Jinping has positioned China as a leading force in shaping the future of artificial intelligence, presenting a vision for a new global AI order that challenges the United States' long-standing technological leadership.Full speech: https://youtu.be/VyM50OvyMXo
>>539100464It's hilarious how Marxism makes people talk like Jews.
>>539096433Cool, may we test it ourselves?We all love better AI, if the Chinese genuinely deliver they will be lauded appropriately.But first seeing then believing.
>>539100464Everything they hate they push onto other countries. They're like jews
>>539101429>But first seeing then believingWut? xD
>>539101509Finally a Chinese model you're waiting for to generate a high quality AI CP you fap to every day
>>539101476Yeah, it is China pushing LGBTQ+, "mRNA vaccines", puberty blockers, idiocracy, and mass immigration in the West. Definitely not Western governmemts,,corporations, thousands NGOs etc etc xD
>>539101574kill yourself
>>539101587Ty sie zabij polski śmieciu xD
>>539101612Zastanawiam się po co ty wgl żyjesz. Patrzysz sobie w lustro na twoją ziemniaczaną mordę jebanego pedofila i nie chcesz się po prostu zajebać?
>>539096433/g/ isn't enough for the Chinese shills?
>>539101635Show us frontier AI models from Bolanda. Shock me hard xD
>>539101686Stop changing subject.We're talking about your usefulness to the world.Please tell me a reason why you should be alive?
>>539096433Well, after reading that, now I'm certain that AI is for fags.
>>539101702>Please tell me a reason why you should be alive?I wasnt injected with USraeli genetic bioweapon in 2021/2022 like majority of the subhuman nation of Bolanda. Thats the reason xD
>>539101681This is the first time China has overtaken the US frontier. The previous wisdom was China was perpetually 6 months behind, but not any longer. We're probably going to see the MAGA admin ban these models in the next month, because the US can no longer keep up with China.
>>539096433Tech bros are fucked, as soon as the banksters get a whiff of this their endless cap ex is going to be under serious scrutiny, the Chinks are doing it with zero in comparrison.
Kimi 3 is really fucking creative for my degenerate dragon fucking TTRPG roleplay campaigns, if 3.1 adds more consistency it'll be perfect. I love China so much it's unreal.
>>539101759>I wasnt injected with USraeli genetic bioweapon in 2021/2022 like majority of the subhuman nation of Bolanda. Thats the reason xDYou're still not answering my questions. Tell me a reason why you should be kept alive. Why are you useful to the world. So far from what I can tell you're a big parasite here
>>539101907>>539101811Stop engaging in threads made by literal pedo.
>>539101811>Chinks are doing it with zero in comparrisonTrue xD
>>539101942This is so embarrassing for the US, China did it with 1/10th of the capex
>>539101987It applies to a lot of other things. China can make better cars, missiles, drones etc etc than USrael for 1/10 price too xDThats the natural supremacy of production/technology/industry-based economy over economy based on finances, money printers and services
>>539101987Stop engaging in threads made by literal pedo.
>>539102174Today is a historical moment, no
>>539102258I am not a pedo btw. The youngest meat i fuck is 16 yo. Fully legal according to Bolandas legal system. Ignore the troll xD
>>539102318BTW, i could even fuck 15 yo elementary school girls legally if i wanted but i prefer not to risk, because there is a legal mess with months-counter. I always check these teenagers throughtly to reduce any scam/crime-risk to zero. I also take other security measures (protecting me from false rape accusations) but i prefer not to talk about them xD
>>539096433who cares about speedwhat it can do matters
>>539102858It's all about cyber security in reality, debugging as well, they probably test these things with known issues buried deep in the code which is standardized. It it's winning benchmark tests it pretty much says everything. Not that I actually know how they test.
>>539102734If you think that fucking 17 yo Liv Tyler is a pedophilia, then OK, i am a "pedophile" according to some retard ITT xD
>frontend benchmark>Chinsect spammer
>>539102858These benchmarks measure reasoning, accuracy, and task completion, not speed.
>>539096433>>539097680>>539101759>Front end>megatroon>5g microslop
>>539100464meanwhile I am trying to translate an old book with Qwen 3.7Max and it keeps blocking it because of 'inappropriate content' which means some description of battles with a little gore in it. Chinese AI is even more censored than ZOG's AI.
>>539096433"Chinese AI is just distilled from US models" bros, what happened? What is our new cope now?
>>539096433nigtard, competition is always good for the customer but here the relative score difference is less than 3%, no need to make a thread about it
>>539103589tfw I remember her in Stealing Beauty (1996) when it came out; I was 20. 30 years ago. Can't believe it.
>DATA AI CENTERS BAD>AI SLOP BAD>LULZ LOOK HOW CHINA IS BEATING US ON AIJust kill thirdies please
>>539104983The price x3-x5 lower tho. Thats the devastating part xD
>>539105009I always wonder how come someone as ugly as Steve Tyler could produce such a cute chick - by accident, by the way, condom broke etc xD
>>539105165Is not "devasting" toilet spelunker. It's the obvious result of chinks stealing and not having to invest an ounce of renminbi on research.
>>539105311A ton of original AI research comes out of China you domesticated Amerigolem. Except they actually release most of it for the public to read and benefit instead of keeping it locked.
>>539097680China is facist actually.
>>539096433china's memory makers are also ramping up production of nand and dram
>>539105311 This shit is entirely based on original non-mutt technologies tho. So how can it be an effect of intellectual theft? Kimi Delta Attention + Attention Residuals: hybrid linear attention (extends Gated DeltaNet) with chunkwise DPLR optimizations. Delivers up to 6.3x faster decoding at 1M context and 75% KV cache reduction vs full attention. Hybrid 3:1 KDA-to-global layers. Native MXFP4 weights / MXFP8 activations with quantization-aware training from SFT stage - enables efficient 2.8T-scale inference on supernodes (64+ accelerators). Builds on prior innovations like MuonClip optimizer (stable trillion-scale training, zero loss spikes on 15T+ tokens) and high-expert MoE sparsity. Huawei Ascend integration (910B/950 series with MindSpore) proves full-stack domestic viability for large MoE training/inference - first validated at scale by entities like China Telecom. Features like LogicFolding 3D stacking and high-bandwidth interconnects advance hardware independence. This shifts dynamics: China __leads__ now in efficient long-context/agentic MoE scaling, native training, hybrid attention and sovereign full-stack (chips + frameworks). US labs now study these for efficiency gains under compute constraints. Amerimutts try to steal this stuff from the Chinese right now, not the other way round xD
>>539096433It's so over for the Amerimutt
>>539097680what china does is use authoritarianism to enforce markets.These operate at max efficiency.In western democracies, voters vote to interfere in markets which makes them less efficient.China also heavily backs its enterprises, however I don't think they view it as 'throwing money away.' They expect these investments to become profitable in the future, which is usually true since they enforce market principles on the economy.
>>539105311You're just a seething nigger/jew hybrid and therefore irrelevant.
>>539096433wow a whole 3.77% better holy shit the us is vorbei
>>539096433Is KimiK3 actually useful? I use ChatGPT 5.6 right now and it's getting dumber by the day. I honestly don't see how it can a top 3 placement with its dogshit performance. Every time I ask it about details of a medical procedure, it yells at me to call the emergency service IMMEDIATELY and have a certified doctor to the treatment and all that noise. Without even answering my actual question. If I wanted corporate helicopter nanny bullshit, I would join Facebook.
>>539106146Your post read likes a shitjeet regurgitating a talkpoint point without any understanding of the shitskin animal noises its making.
>>539106075Dont forget about x4 lower price, superior real executable coding/automation, superior long-horizon agentic workflows and multi-hour runs, superior 1M-context efficiency via KDA hybrid attention, open weights (soon) enable self-hosting/customization (crazy, right?), native multimodal + swarm parallel agents for complex tasks etc. All of this combined is Antrophic killer xD
>>539106278all of that has been true for earlier models too
>>539106600Unlike K2 series (trailing Fable on Terminal-Bench/WebDev), K3 leads (number uno) WebDev Arena, Terminal-Bench and long-horizon agent scaling. Thats the first genuine overtake in key production coding metrics.
>>539106146The Chinese models are much more lax about safety. Fable also does the same bullshit, anything vaguely related to cybersecurity and it flips it lid and downgrades you to a lower tier model
>>539106739Open weights enable full customization: Users can fine-tune, apply system prompts, quantization or merge adapters to override safety alignments entirely. Self-hosted Kimi K3 allows complete removal of guardrails via continued pre-training or RLHF overrides, delivering unrestricted performance. Completely different story than closed Fable (fixed refusals on cybersecurity).
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>>539106863Elon had to lobby Trump to ban Chinese EVs from being imported to the US, so Tesla wasn't forcibly bent over by BYD and put out of business. Does it get any more humiliating than that?
>>539105838>>539105971Is shilling for China more profitable than cleaning toilets in the EU?
>>539106920That's par for the course in this zog shithole, with it's rapist president
>>539106204Yes yes. I'm studying veterinary medicine. You've probably never heard of it either. In your country, even the middle school dropouts speak english. As we can see.
>>539105899No, in western "democracies", the owners and managers of the financialized capital bribe politicians and judges for political and legal privileges. Your entire "presidetial election race" is a gigantic bribe collection drive. By Chinese law, every big donor is a criminal and every politician who takes big donations deserves the death penalty. Fundamentally different civilizational development tier. The American are centuries behind China in that field. Most forms of corruption are legal in America, the upper class is completely above the law there. A poor man who steals an apple is punished harder there than a rich man who rapes babies every day.
>>539107880China is a lawless gangster state.Humans in China have about the same rights as a house plant.
>>539108417>Humans in China have about the same rights as a house plant.Still better than in USrael where humans are deliberately culled with "mRNA vaccines" xD
>>539108417>gangster stateGive names of sovereign countries that China invaded in last decades
>>539108581China supported and supervised pol pots genocide of educated people even though many of the people murdered were chinese diaspora.
>>539109136Chinas backing was driven by Cold War geopolitics: countering Soviet-Vietnamese expansion, preventing Vietnamese domination of Indochina to avoid encirclement and supporting Sihanouks resistance while maintaining anti‑US solidarity. The victims were overwhelmingly Cambodian nationals, most of them ethnic Khmer so why should China care?
