do you believe the official narrative of spontaneous combustion within the fuel tanks?
>>539111314>boeingyes
>>539111314>TRANS world>plane endeed up killing itselfcould they be any more obvious?
>>539111314Too many people reported a streak of flame shooting up toward the plane before it exploded. You know, exactly like a missile would look like.Unfortunately, I can find absolutely no reason why the government would cover it up if that had happened, so I have to assume it didn't.
>>539111689an iranian submarine shot the missile that took down 800. The US military allowed it as a tit for tat settlement for shooting down 655
I've read the TWA 800 book and watched the documentaries.Everything points toward an accidental shootdown.A couple years ago, some navy guy claimed he was on board the ship that fired the missile. I believe him too.
>>539111314no
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>>539111584Boeing 777-300er is the most reliable aircraft in the world. Your own company Lufthansa loves Boeing 747
I was a first responder ask me anything.One fake conspiracy theory was they didnt use the NY field office and called in the Kentucky office because reasons (I forgot). I spent alot of time talking to the head of the FBI there Jim (forgot his last name but he was friends with Rush Limbaugh) and he told me the NY FBI were still deployed investigating the Oklahoma IRS bombing.
>>539112636You responded to the TWA Crash?
>>539111924This, accidental shootdown covered up to keep the public from getting mad.That explanation makes more sense than "the nose just fell off, that just happens sometimes"
>>539111314That bird got shot down by the navy, there's a picture somewhere of the missile in flight, plus hundreds of witnesses on the beach saw the whole thing. There's a documentary out there, about ten years old
>>539111314thats the flight that inspired Final Destination. There was a high school class on board going on a trip to France
>>539113144They also said a wire lit the fuel on fire in the center wing tank. They could never identify the wire. Boeing never made any modifications to their plane to address this supposed design flaw.Oh, and there IS NO wire in the center wing tank that carries enough voltage to ignite fuel. There has never been another wing tank explosion. Yet there were no changes made to the design. No planes were ever retrofitted to protect against this supposed major design flaw.They never actually found the supposed wire that did it.And hundreds of people saw a missile.It was shot down.
>>539113144faulty wiring caused by sloppy maintenance produced electrical acring ( sparks) and ignited fuel vapors fume explosions in aircraft fuel tankshappens all the time that show they knew what it was the picture you are seeing there is totally not congruent with other incidents of accidental shootdowns of civilian aircraft in the years after we cant possibly allow this accident to cause our defense force to be prohibited from using live ammunition on our bordersimagine hopw much money the contractors would not get if that would occur and also all those jobs lostthis is a matter of national securityfaulty wiringcase closedr.i.p american heroes, or italian, or french or generally unrelated patent holders who heroically support the integrity of americas national security
>>539113045Yes. I ran the motor pool for a national guard unit. I drove the wreckage to Calverton on a tractor trailer where they were reconstructing the wreckage
>>539112532boeing is trash
>>539113239Tom Stalcup made a phenomenal doc in 2013. Called TWA Flight 800.You can't watch it without going "oh shit".There's a phenomenal book that goes into incredible detail on the cover-up too. TWA 800: The Crash, the Cover-Up, and the Conspiracy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROT7aEEG07wHere it is, the rumour was that the navy regularly used civilian traffic to test and calibrate radar systems for the missiles.
>>539113513Incredible. Did you see or hear any rumors about how it was handled?Is your opinion that it was a terrible accident? I heard they'd prevent first responders from handling or viewing some of the debris.
>>539113464>They could never identify the wiretwo non-FQIS wires at STA 955 that shared a raceway with CWT FQIS wiring had melted copper ends and reheardened, located beneath the main cabin floor, forward of the center wing tankthis is from the report NTSB Aircraft Accident Report AAR-00/03 (PB2000-910403), in the Analysis section on page 289
>>539113519just because you write that down doesnt mean its true or based on factual objective data
>>539112532>is the most reliable aircraft in the world.yeah, maybe 40 years ago lmao.
>>539113583The problem with a "conspiracy" is there were so many different agencies and people involved. I cant believe all those people were in on it. The hanger at Calverton where they were piecing the plane back together had like 100 NTSB employees alone. I was kinda surprised it was like 75% women. There were no burn marks on the body of the plane that I saw
>>539113513I was the lead engineer at Nintendo when they came up with the NES.
>>539111314I remember when this happened. The entire world was shocked such a thing could even happen. Very sad and tragic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QkcaPGq8Q
>>539113689>? I heard they'd prevent first responders from handling or viewing some of the debrisNot true. The wreckage came into Shinnicock Coast Guard station on those small navy cargo carriers with the fronts that fold out to a ramp. Everything was in nets. I operated the engineer crane and lifted the next over the dock. Then a NYC bomb squad guy looked over the debris and gave us the all clear before I loaded it onto the flat bed. Anyone there could inspect it.
>>539113834Why is that flag always cancer here?What shithole are you from again?
>>539114159easy, because the outside opinion is not biased by american patriotism trying to save face, so you get unfiltered cynicism from "europoors" and real contrarian opinions which you can sharpen your senses with/onplease dont cry i value your first hand accounts in the end its all just banternobody can bring the dead back or make the accident unhappen it was tragic one way or another and the way it was handled controlled the damage in the best way possible for the future generations
>>539113806Boeing 777-300er came out in 2002. It has the highest dispatch reliability rate at 99.5% and has never crashed. >>539113519Why does Lufthansa love boeing 747 so much then?
>>539113700Yet when asked about it by Congress, the NTSB stated they could not find an exposed wire that could ignite the tank.
>>539114600The worst part was when a section of seats came on with a stuffed animal toy wedged in it. One guy started crying then another. I started to tear up but I was in charge so I had to be the dick and make everyone keep working.The last sunday I was there thet brought in a chaplin to do a cerimony where he threw a wreath in the water and said prayers. There wasnt a dry eye on the whole dock.
>>539113968It was the direct inspiration for the movie Final Destination https://youtu.be/Ftg9BcUkbM4?si=zxYtLCPoagBaxxru
>>539111314I have a hard time believing it was terrorism because the government didnt immediately push for invasion of a foreign country or sweeping legislation to advance a surveillance state, empower 3 letter agencies, or reduce freedoms generally.If it was terrorism, even if false flag terrorism, they would have milked it for everything they had instead of just pushing for modifications to design, maintenance and inspection procedures.
>>539111314Yes. There is absolutely no proof that it was shot down. The sequence of events has been reproduced in a laboratory setting.
>>539114056Do you ever wonder WTF all those eyewitnesses saw, if not a missile? The sheer number of people who saw it is hard to ignore.The radar data showing supersonic debris, the suspicious breakup that suggests something more catastrophic than a jet fuel explosion. The PETN recovered from the seats. The splatter pattern on the wing. The nonsensical "dramatic ascent" after the nose came off that isn't supported by radar data.I feel like it'd be different if just one or two of those things happened. But the evidence starts piling up and the bigger picture seems to point toward a missile.
>>539115238Well that's just plainly wrong. There's multiple documentaries and books cataloguing tons of evidence supporting a shootdown scenario. As well as hundreds of eyewitnesses describing something rising from the horizon/sea level. Many even including ship lights at the origin point.
>>539115404I dont really know. All I can attest to is some of the conspiracacy theories about the recovery operations were bullshit.
>>539115529There werent hundreds. Maybe a dozen. But alot came from people in Mastic. Mastoids are Long Island white trash drug addict/mental patients.
>>539115529There are also multiple documentaries and books claiming that the moon landing never happened, but that doesn't make accusations of a cover up any truer. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, especially when it comes to air crashes. There have been many other air crashes where eyewitnesses swore they saw a fire when there was none, for example. In the case of TWA 800, it is likely that they could have seen the nose separation, confusing it with some sort of missile.
>>539115583>>539115677Fair enough. I've been interested in this case for many years, and I appreciate hearing direct experience from someone who was there.Many of the books/docs obviously leave out contrary evidence and opinion to make the most compelling case.
>>539113464>otdown covered up to keep the public from getting mad.>That explanation makes more sense than "the nose just fell off, that just happens sometimes"TWA was also on the verge of bankruptcy on the night when Flight 800 occured. Next thing you know, they are accepting deliveries of 2 brand new aircraft a week. Where did the money for that come from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gEoyRLLb_Y
conspiracy nuts love to talk about flight 800. perfect post for 4chan. the truth is a wire shorted and ignited the fuel.
I know an ex-NSWDG/UDT guy who worked with the dive teams, who told me about it. They all got ptsd, including him. Wrecked his marriage and ended his Naval career. They all knew it was a shoot-down.
>>539115975Bullshit faggot.I was hanging out with the divers. The crabs and lobsters were eating the bodies so they were picking them all up and bagging them. We had huge seafood cookouts at Shinnicock. At first I was like I dont know if I can eat a crab that was just eating a person but when I smelled the food cooking I said fuck it and chowed down.Why even tell this larp asshole?
The recovery efforts were halted for about a week because of a huge storm. So when they resumed they were finding skelitons because crabs and lobsters were eating the bodies. So they had divers catch all of them near the crash site while they combed the ocean floor for bones and bodies.
>>539115955Which is why that happened and continues to happen all the time
>>539111689One of the eyewitnesses on the ground was an active duty US fighter pilot who said there was no mistaking that it was a surface to air shootdown from a boat in the water.
>>539117676the flame went up because when the nose broke away, the plane entered a sudden climb, while on fire.
>>539115830Sure >>539117676There was an ex military helicopter pilot who recognized it as a missile as well.
>>539114967but its written in the NTSB report ? i dont understand how is this possible if there was no arcing wires ?>>53911359301:21:52 - 01:24:16missing audio and missing subtitles
>>539111314yes
>>539111314>Today is the 30 year anniversary of TWA Flight 800so why did jews blow it up?or was the whole thing a psyop where nobody died and they just blew it up to collect moneys?
Absolutely. Between Boeing becoming jeeted and TWA firing their maintenance department, yes the fuel tank did explode.
>>539111584You dont even know what happend dumb turk. Go back.
>>539121144boeing is trash, everyone knows this.
>>539111810>an Iranian submarine shot the missile that took down 800.>>as I said, a bad bad Iran missike caused it. Please let me tell you something: if it's around 2003-2005 it was the afgahn or iraqis who did it. My crystal told me it could be the north Korean navy, too, depending on what time you give me. But maybe it was the viets, just give me the Date.
>>539111314>do you believe the official narrative of spontaneous combustion within the fuel tanks?Fuck. No.The "center fuel tank" nonsense is as ridiculous as their claim that WTC7 disintegrated from a few wastebasket fires.TWA 800 was shot down by a US Navy surface-to-air missile - another AEGIS fuckup (just like when the US Navy shot down Iran Air 655, killing nearly 300 people).DIA immediately scrambled from DC to NY to start the coverup and protect both the weapons systems gravy train and the US government.Watch this video. It masterfully debunks the CIA's lies about TWA 800. It should be required watching for everyone interested in how to recognize and counter government disinformation.Rebuttal of CIA Video About TWA Flight 800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyluFVxqBloWATCH THE VIDEO
Could be shot down, could also be one of many US coverups of how shit boeing is. People think boeing has only become shit recently, but they always have been like this, taking massive risks on new designs without testing, doing cost cutting, etc....And the NTSB, as a good dog has been working hard to keep the lid on this. And a reminder, a lot of boeing whistleblowers died in recent time, and people just kind of forgot about that.
>>539112636>I spent alot of time talking to the head of the FBI there JimJim Kallstrom.Kallstrom was in charge of suppressing any and all evidence that would expose what really happened and ZOG's coverup - just as the FBI did 5 years later with the scrubbing of WTC after 9/11.Most notable imo was the destruction of the scraps of seat fabric that had rocket fuel residue on them (from the SAM flying through the cabin).
>>539121927SAMs don't fly through cabins, their fuses are RF activated and they explode about 10-50' from the exterior of the aircraft. And, most use solid not liquid fuel. You have no idea what you're talking about.
so I cracked the case. its actually really simple:>TWA is in financial trouble and will be soon ded anyway>oy vey what if we take one of these 747s, blow it up and collect money?>get empty 747 in the air>blow it up with a bomb or a missile>victims only exist on paper, the families are all glowniggers themselves or connected to them>insurance pays out, fake victims families get multi million dollar checks>Lloyd's of London is the insurer of TWA (they are also behind other insurance scams like 9/11 or the Titanic (also fake and gay)wow that was easy. always the same with these long nosed peoples.
>>539121608>DIA immediately scrambled from DC to NYThe DIA couldn't even scramble on 9/11 when the military itself was asking them what the fuck was going on. And, if it actually was a mistake why would the Admiral in charge of the training exercise call his superiors to report himself when he could destroy all the evidence instead? You have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't buy the shootdown theories because every time a potentially responsible Navy ship is named, records show it was out of range for missile shots. MANPAD from a smaller boat, that just creates the question of "why?"Plus we've seen airliners downed by missiles and damages caused, those types of marks weren't on the wreckage.
>>539113583>Tom Stalcup made a phenomenal doc in 2013. Called TWA Flight 800Glad there's another appreciator of Dr. Stalcup's work. It's perhaps the best ever debunking of a government coverup.I referenced it earlier, but another link won't hurt:Rebuttal of CIA Video About TWA Flight 800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyluFVxqBlo
>>539122374they made these bomb and missile theories up so people keep guessing and never figure out what really happened, see >>539122297it was another dumbass glownigger insurance scam.
>>539122297About as believable as the faggots who claim the plane shot down above ukraine was empty.
>>539122297FYI, TWA's financial trouble exists due to Trump and Carl Ichan buying it and destroying it from the inside. The same happened to Pan Am and Eastern, the latter of which was rebranded into Trump Airlines then Trump Shuttle which is how he writes off all his 757 expenses from his taxes.
>>539122445>who claim the plane shot down above ukraine was empty.and it was, its literally the same scam made by the same people who did TWA800.
>>539122466Also, Trump pardoned Ichan and other friends involved with this. Ichan also went to Epstein island with Trump.
>>539122466the plot thickens.Trump was also on ground zero during 9/11.which was also a Lloyds insurance scam covered up as a fake terrorist attack.
>>539115830>Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable"Who are you going to believe, goy? The CIA or your lying eyes?"
>>539122503Fuck off faggot, i was in the threads on 4chan before the mainstream media picked it up and footage&pictures where posted here before the media crackdown.It rained bodies from that plane when it blew up. You should really consider kiling yourself for being such a waste of life.
>>539122655>It rained bodies from that plane when it blew up.which were already much longer dead as confirmed by first responders.glowniggers took MH370, turned it into MH17 and blew it up over ukraine.also the wreckage of MH17 matches the MH370 configuration.>You should really consider kiling yourself for being such a waste of life.also are you jewish? you sound like a shill and this topic makes you really butthurt and emotional.does it anger you that these shitty psyops are so transparent and failing?
Someone tell the kraut to take his meds.
>>539122803>oy vey shut it down
>>5391113141) Jet-A is basically kerosene and would not combust if you dropped a lit match into a bucket of it.2) Most every automobile has its electric fuel pump immersed inside the gas tank. If a spark inside an airless fuel tank could cause an explosion, vehicles would be blowing up everywhere, all day long.3) A military veteran helicopter pilot eyewitness reported seeing "first a white ordnance flash, followed by an orange fireball".
Somebody needs to learn this faggot about occam's razor.
>>539111314A total of 1,574 Boeing 747 aircraft were produced from 1968 to 2023.Think of the number of hoursTakeoffs and landings, miles flownOver more than 60 years>One just explodes in flightNever happens again
>>539111314This crash fascinates me. Isn't there diver footage of a body? It shows the dude's neck snapped right back in the seat, due to I guess the deceleration / force. Basal skull fracture like IndyCar had every race back in the day.
>>539121050>so why did jews blow it up?AEGIS training exercise and AEGIS fucked up again and launched a SAM at a passenger plane.It's the same thing that happened with IR655, where AEGIS misidentified an Airbus A300 taking off and ascending as an F-14 descending and attacking.Even with admission from the USN about what happened, Pres. George H.W. Bush threw an infantile tantrum and said he'd never apologize to Iran for killing hundreds of innocent people. "I will never apologize for the United States of America. Ever. I don't care what the facts are." - President George H.W. Bush
>>539123310actually I figured it out already, its an insurance scam, literally explains everything.>insurer jewing the other parties who pay into insurance, reinsurance etc. and pay out to fellow glowniggers who larp as victim family>government jews scam money from the taxcattle for the "investigation"also this TWA800 747 was already old and busted and wouldnt been worth much, like less than 15 million or so at the time, maybe even less.so jews turned this worthless 15 million dollar asset into a hundreds of millions of dollars payday psyop for fellow jews.
>>539111314Shot down for revenge of Iran Air Flight 655, according to Bill Cooper on his 9/11 broadcast.
>>539123480Russian Metrojet Flight 9268 crash in Egypt was likely revenge for MH17 as well.
>>539123128Not simply explodes.Explodes, destroys the entire front half of the plane, and then magically *keeps flying along and gains 4,000 ft of altitude."
>>539123310In this US shooting down a iran plane case, and the russian fighter pilot shooting down the passenger plane, there is a theory that people where so stressed that they ignored obvious signs that it was a passenger plane and shot them down.
>>539115955And fires caused a full collapse at free fall speed of building 7.
>>539122340>You have no idea what you're talking about.Like the DIA is going to publically announce they're going to go do yet another coverup?But the Pentagon is a big place, and people here in D.C. talk.
>>539123310From what I can read about it, the AEGIS with the Iran flight was a clusterfuck with the system changing target designations as it created more IDs. Correctly identifying and tracking both the commercial flight and the F-14. Then the crew not realizing the system altered the airliner's designation, still showing accurate flight information (Aircraft is climbing) and choosing to take action while believing the information shown was incorrect and they were still locking onto a descending F-14. A confusing computer interface mixed with humans who ignored the system challenging their preconceived notions.It doesn't work with TWA-800 because there is no AEGIS ship in the area. And no way something like a target drone would be confused with an airliner.And again, the damage shown on the TWA plane doesn't resemble what other hits by SAMs look like.
