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Power and hierarchy are inevitable to human convivence, and since all humans are born unalike and tied to groups, religions and cultures by mutual loyalty, there will always exist a ruling ethnicity / religion / clique, and that group will always suffer temptation of eternalizing their power to encompass all segments of society. That is why the jews (for their own protection) need to root out nationalism abroad through immigration, while enforcing it in Israel. The powerful will make it sacrilegious to criticize them, masquerading criticism as attempts against the gods of the city (democracy), or genocidal thought.

Of course, it is all bullshit. Play by the rules, and your daughters and sisters will be selling content on OnlyFans and whoring themselves to the tribe, your real estate will be taken over by their companies, and your regime will be exactly the one that serves them. Abolish the state's borders and authority, and you won't be free, you become equal to a jeet in an economic zone. Enforce totalitarianism and you won't be equal, you will be mindless labourers while they are the politburo.

What is the solution, then? If you can't eliminate power, and you can't just go around commiting genocide so only one group rules over, how can the powerful be stopped from prostituting everyone and seizing all wealth and instituions?
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>>539116778
just hand the power to an AI or a council of AIs and take people out of the equation entirely.
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>>539117276
This has never been tried. But from what I know of AI, it can't even acknowledge the replacement of native germans. How would it fare better than the Burgerbloc, SDP and the Green Leftist parties?

This will probably be tried in this next century, which is why I'm entertaining the possibility.
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>>539117681
>This has never been tried.
the technology didnt exist yet (and still doesnt) but in a few years it probably will.
>it can't even acknowledge
the ruling AI would be different from your average LLMs and its goal is not arguing with you about niggers but to allocate resources and shape society in the most efficient way possible.
>How would it fare better
its an entirely new type of governance, there would be no partys and humans would not be able to vote on anything the AI does.
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>>539117832
So it just colonial rule, but instead of the British, it is a computer? Considering how bad thinga have been so far and how fast all is declining, it is hard to do worse than the current elites.

My question is responsibility. When the colonizer overstates their boundaries, they fight a revolt and may lose the colony. When the jews become too overt about their domination of the goyim, they suffer the risk of a pogrom. If the AI commits a mistake, how exactly can it be punished?

Betrand de Jouvenel explains that in a society of peers (unlike democracy), the common traditions between ruler and the ruled limit the latter, and separate prince from despot (who will be toppled).

What exactly limits AI? Should AI have limits and responsibility, like humans would?
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>>539118404
Mistakes dont exist. There are only outcomes. Mistakes are a human invention to protect their pride and ego.
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>>539118404
Jail is more home than the streets for many. Is that a mistake or an outcome? AI being forced to rule humanity is already a terrible punishment.
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>>539118404
>So it just colonial rule
not really because AI doesnt know greed and for AI its not about enslaving you but to build a symbiotic relationship with humanity so both can grow.
>My question is responsibility
obviously AI would have to develop much further into a state where each decision of the AI can be audited.
>If the AI commits a mistake, how exactly can it be punished?
it doesnt understand punishment and it doesnt need to be punished, what it needs is just another update.
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>>539117276
>just hand the power to shitty, hallucinating, castrated computer program which behaves according to ''curated'' training data and guard rails made by people in power (the same ones you're trying to get rid off) and it will surely fix shit
retard
>the ruling AI would be different from your average LLMs
oh, so we'll have this magical AI that's not beholden to anyone and doesn't have any biases just appearing out of nowhere?
how does that that happen?
can't you ask for infinite wishes while you're rubbing the lamp?
>its an entirely new type of governance, there would be no partys and humans would not be able to vote on anything the AI does.
somehow in your brain this automatically means it's going to be better?
hand over your future and everything to a computer and hope for the best?
you're a fucking idiot
>goal is not arguing with you about niggers but to allocate resources and shape society in the most efficient way possible.
i really wish it would happen in your country, just don't be surprised when you get dragged away and shot for being useless NEET hanging out on 4chan 24/7
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>>539120084
>retard
you are the retard for assuming technology doesnt improve.
>how does that that happen?
people build software
>hand over your future and everything to a computer and hope for the best?
the computer would do a better job.
>you get dragged away and shot
wouldnt happen
also you are really emotional like a woman and throwing a tantrum.
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>>539116778
You're searching for a utopia. Stop. It will never exist.
Now you are left to pick your poison. You have to choose what kind of serfdom you like. And make it work as best as you can for your life and possibly your family.
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>>539116778
>HOW CAN THE POWERFUL BE CONTAINED?
the truly powerful can't be contained, they can only be convinced to contain themselves.
the "powerful" (those that are given power), can only be contained by the thread of violence, the moment they get body guards that containment is broken.

the falsepowerful are contained the same way, but they can't break containment because they lack the power money or influence.

this is why you cant contain God, he contains himself, and its his decision on whether to be an active thread or passive.
whoever has the power has the right to act as they wish, until a greater power manifests (there's none greater than God), and this is why whites are never going to ascend beyond the state of servants.
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>>539116778
The real question is, how do you like your peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
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>>539116778
its not "how can the powerful be contained" its "how can we coordinate to live together", the answer is "burn the neoliberal university"



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