Capitalism is not just trade.It is not only an economical system or a political ideology.Capitalism is a collective neural network that programs your brain to think "I need to work in order to survive".There is no race, no ideology, no religion, no politics, nothing. Just you and your desire to serve the Empire.Break this network.
The idea that we need to "survive" in this "wild world" is a capitalist idea.So we keep fighting for a position in this "war". We buy new ideologies, new concepts, but we never ever question the basis of this idea.
>>539130591>i don't need to work to survive. >i can survive by laying still in the woods and doing nothing
>>539130591*opening scene of an extremly malnourished cave man crawling on his belly, almost dead*Freeze frame, record scratch.So you might be wondering how I got into this mess in the first place. Well, you see, some long billed bird flew down and landed on a rock next to where I was laying while hunting some animals for food. It kept telling me that I didn't need to hunt and that a mysterious entity would just fill my belly full of food. Well, it was quite convincing and after awhile I just couldn't help but agree. Eventually he flew off after he ate most of the animal I had previously hunted. I was tired of hunting, so I gave it a try. Here we are...4 days later and nothing has happened!
>>539131762exactlybut now do this unironically and you are free
>>539132038bip boprobot thinkingbip bopdefend workbip bopcapitalism goodrobot thinkingbip bopserve the master, work for the masterbip boosurvivalbip bopbip bopnew code createdbip bop
>>539130591>>539132038Congratulations OP, in criticizing capitalism, you have defeated communism by accident. Just like the USSR.
>>539132061what does this have to do with communism, where the party elite control the means of production?
>>539132236>>539132219bip boprobot likes capitalismbip bopcommunism badbip bopworkbip boprobot good
>>539132127>listen to me goy, you need to be my useful idiot and read this book. You are oppressed and the billionays are the evil. I am the good! I swear on Saturn. I wont be a totalitarian.
>>539132326bip bopjewbip bopcapitalism goodbip bop
>>539130591due to natural law (entropy), if you want to live work will be required. How that work is divided up and assigned is what all economic systems are trying to solve.
>>539132442bip bopwork neededbip bopwork is naturebip bopcapitalism is just a systembip bopsurvival
>>539132482I never mentioned capitalism explicitly macaco. Stop doing any work or accepting the outputs of anyone else's work and let us know how it goes.
>>539132549work is evil
>>539132038Fishing for 30 minutes a day to get food =/= wage slaving for 50 years so you can subsidize niggers and foreigners with your taxes
>>539132591maybe so but that's the creation we live in. Feel free to die then
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>>539132296>>539132367this niggea retarded.
>>539132672Thats not capitalism. Thats government.
>>539132749>>539132746bip bopkill the anti work manbio bop
>>539130591>>539130591>Capitalism is a collective neural network that programs your brain to think "I need to work in order to survive"Thats every economic system. Even the Communists knew that labor needs to exist.
>>539132038bros mind cannot comprehend automationyou really are a caveman
>>539132865I don't want to kill you but if you want to kill yourself on this belief go ahead, I, nor anyone else, will care
>>539130591You don't need to work because you live in a tropical favela surviving on sopa de macaco
>>539132865I do t need to kill you, you will starve to death.
>>539132746>>539132749No I think I’ll just continue taking my NEETbux from your tax dollars! Thanks!
>>539132905Dumb nigger cant comprehend a scene
>>539132985Its a Brazilian, of course its a dumb nigget
>>539132960Yea, you probably will because you're brown. If you NEET, you ain't white, jack.
>>539133035Yup! Now get back to work, my bitch!
You all are so dumb.Work here is not a thing you do, but an idea in your head.>I need to survive>I need to survive>I need to surviveCapitalism is this.
>>539130591Fuck off back to your favela, seu preto fdp
>>539130591Capitalism is a religion more than anything. And yes its obseseed with labor.Point is not to make everythig cheap and plentiful. Many capitalists support creation of david grabers bulshit jobs. Keeping poeple busy is more important than keeping market fair and free.
>>539133111Alright, interesting digits.So exactly *how* are we supposed to get by without working for a living?
>>539132985>>539133020>not addressing my pointkikes seem unmotivated lately
>>539133340Stop looking for survival for a moment, "what should I do for a living?", "what is my place in this system?"When you stop doing this the answer will come naturally, it is not me giving you an answer but you concluding by yourself.
OK so what is the solution. How would a better system look and function? I suppose it would need>less reliance on needing to purchase things>essentials such as homes, education and healthcare be available to all>food distribution being differentBut you will still need farmers and builders and doctors, and they will all still need stable enough life circumstances to learn what they need to and have access to the things they need to, day to day. I do find it difficult to think of a situation where everyone is taken care of that doesn't involve trading currency because currency is the thing you use to ensure all your needs are taken care of. So how do you replace that? In Star Trek it didn't matter because they could rearrange literal matter. There is the problem of people needing stuff. How else do they get it? It's almost like Maslows pyramid and finding a way to provide that before we can collectively rise to the next level.
>>539133340There has to be a different way of obtaining resources.
In a lot of countries there's more people not working than ever for most of history since jobs existed and even people with jobs or titles often just do nothing. The people who claim that we could all work for 4 days a week and/or 6 hours a day are actually correct despite usually being literal commies, but the system doesn't seem to have such mechanism built in. You would just have to set a law like most countries did with 8h/40h a week where anything going above 6h/32h a week is overtime. A lot of people would still do it because people do overtime now too, but other people would just accept the payment for less hours and one more free day without commute etc. You can in some professions do that even now as it's not illegal, it just might be impractical.I understand the perspective in other countries can be different but in most western countries work or career is not about surviving; it's about being extra competitive on every single level and if you fail on even one level, you have nothing to fall back to (religion, culture, racial unity, not even the family often) but you are just a fucking loser. This is another thing people try to articulate every now and then but usually have blind spots or fail at some point or say shit like if you (the bank) owns a house or you have a car (to drive to work) then your shit should be taken or given for others to use. Not even trying to hint op thinks any of this, just commentary on how things are discussed where I live.
>>539132061Everyone doing everything themselves and not relying on power of big enough community to divide tasks is not a long-term solution to anything even if you obviously want to reduce dependency of a system that wants to kill you and this is what people also think/feel even if they can't or won't articulate it that way.
>>539132127>>539132038Mother of God go the fuck back you everloving faggots. What the hell happened to this board? Why do newfags get away with this faggy red.di.t format speak?>>539130591/pol/ is and always will be a libertarian board, no amount of daily mossad or newfag anti-"capitalist" threads will change that. The free market is the greatest enemy of the kikes, everything else is what has destroyed the west. You people would know that if you were one bit economically literate.
>>539130591Capitalism is all about allowing the gigajewish Epstein class to do whatever they want to your nation with their ridiculous amounts of wealth. They are free to import infinity niggers, outsource your industry to China, buy out your politicians and have them regularly donate taxpayer money to Israel, send your army to die in the middle east for their own private interests, keep the population hooked up on porn, drugs and propagandized mass media, and turn your kids gay or into trannies at school. National socialism is the answer to modern Weimar problems.
>>539133791>>539133673>>539133499>>539133897work within capitalism is not something you do but an idea.the "free" market is a slave market with a "freedom" brand over it. you need to stop thinking about how we fix the system but just stop serving the master now>but if I stop I will die and/or the world is gonna fall downYou won't. Trust me.
>>539131318Some people are industrial; it's not that they need to work, but they like to generate systems and inventions, even if they were alone in the woods. Entrepreneurs and creatives are most negatively effected by bureaucracy and groupthink, but are also the people most responsible for maintaining and strengthen these systems, which are later run by non-creatives as a source for resources.Capitalism lavishly rewards those who work the smartest or creative a better system (gauged by the market), while giving scraps to those who serve to maintain the system.The problem with Capitalism and Socialism is most people are stupid and have to be told what to do, so that even if they are unhappy with their current situation, they are still dependent on the system and other people for solutions. In America, everyone is a fat fuck who non-stop consumes media and placebo medication, and then they have the balls to cry that they don't have enough money while thinking they could make it on their own in the woods but can't because they're addicted to their suffering.
>>539134058natsoc is capitalism with nationalistic and racial brands.
>>539133340>>539133128>>539133035>>539132940>>539132915step 1) energy can be captured from the sun and other sustainable meansstep 2) energy is channeled in such a way as to maintain an ecosystem that provides foodstep 3) energy is then channeled into capturing and distributing the foodstep 4) capitalists seethe and shit themselvesBonus FAQ for the mentally-handicapped:>hurrr durr but who is going to build the machines needed for this huhhh? checkmate atheistsUs. We build the machines for ourselves and let others use it as well. Linux is a free and open source initiative that has become the #1 operating system for most quality software endeavours>wahhh but Linux is digital, how are you going to get the materials for machines?We can all agree that every human life needs such resources. Very little effort per person is needed to gather them>b-but *cries* then everyone will reproduce until resources are depletedNo person can be created without them being accounted for. If we can't afford a new person in this world, we cannot make them. No man left behind, and no soul left without the bare-minimum aid.>*throws himself on the floor* BUT THEN PEOPLE WILL GET DEPRESSED BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PURPOSEThey certainly can contribute more and earn more, we just addressed the bare minimum for a functioning body. If people want luxuries such as a car, they can still trade their skills and improve themselves and society. P.S.: you are all retarded and we shouldn't share a planet and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>539133472>vauge hippy nonsenseWell, guess I wasted my time here.>>539133577Unless OP is sitting on a way to draw all our energy from the universe like some enlightened bhuddah I think we're wasting our time here. Hunter/Gatherer is the best I can offer.
>>539133673Things should be more collaborative, with the various sources >religion, culture, racial unity, the familyto fall back upon in the event of failure. But competition should still be encouraged. This kind of attitude of competitiveness is what drives innovation, especially when people are allowed to autistically knitpick and improve all aspects of a good or process. Not everyone is competitive though which leads to an automatic hierarchy of people being judged by how much they can contribute collectively, and which contributions matter the most.
>>539134083I just told you that quite a few people don't work even on paper, like 30% of working population doesn't do shit and another 30% might hold some woman job on public sector and barely do shit. The actual _work_ people have to do to keep on living would be really minimal per person with current technology or even techonology in year 2000.People at least in the west don't work to survive or think about survival, they work for real or perceived things like>I will be loved if I success real hard and never fail / I won't be loved if I don't do this>I might own a house someday and then I'll be loved or love myself moreIf you just accept being a loser and decide to not do shit, you most often can. Why bother with the game or hypergamy.
>>539134130capitalism is actually anti-industrial.it rewards the binary code type of thinking, simple minded people are rewarded in capitalism while people who struggle to understand things are left behindwork is an effort you make, that effort is nulified by capitalism, because it rewards the bad guys always and give you much less than you deservecapitalism is stealing human labor and life energy to create stupid things for the masses and give some people a status over you
>>539134083>work within capitalism is not something you do but an idea.I'm literally struggling to grasp this but it sounds fascinating. It's crazy how much being raised within a certain system completely warps your worldview to the extent that some things just do not compute.
>>539134333>Hunter/Gatherer is the best I can offer.agreed
>>539134184what is there to enjoy in life other than toil?
>>539134334There are/have been cultures all around the world where you are allowed to compete and succeed but thing like ethnic makeup and/or religion was the safe net where the poor people were still considered human if they weren't violent criminals or shit.Nowadays only the top layer exists: become successful and attain material well-being to be loved. If you fail at getting the correct degree and the correct job, you fail thru the net and there's nothing waiting there except dead-end ideologies. You are encouraged to become an activist for>taking more from people who have a house bank owns and a car to drive from work>lbgt and climate ideologies to celebrate infertility (only for whites)>endless atomization of society spiral so liberalism (no rules or boring traditions), endless multiculturalism so no shared belief systems or in-groups if there were some to begin with, selective enforcing of justice system to break people's spirits furtherYou get "experts" from university or media crying about the consequences of "people feeling lost" and the proposed solutions are that boys should become feminists and endless immigration which again means if anyone can be Finnish/British then no one actually is and people start to question "if we are nothing then what would we defend in war? who or what would be defended, who would be doing the defending?".
>>539134333Well >>539134184 makes a good point. Easily generated, sustainable and FREE energy, once the set up costs are dealt with, would be a great start, remove costs of powering a home and vehicles, allow people to expend a lot more power towards growing their own food, allow them to maybe experiment on building different machines. Celebrating innovation and meritocracy as high values would probably help.
>>539134511>>539134354being afraid of "social death" is also survival instinct.capitalism offers you a solution "you work for the system, you produce stuff to the common good, you are part of society, then you are free"All these are based in fake ideas. Capitalism is concentration of wealth in the hands of the owners and they make you work for their own interests that are always opposite to the common good.The common good is socialism. Capitalism is alienation of labor.
>>539134986And the people who want socialism seem to be anti-white sanpaku eyes women and browns backed by who knows who. Completely deranged witches whose ancestors dodged when witches were burned back in the days. Despite every now and then identifying the problems of capitalism correctly, sometimes even from start to finish on select cases. These people constantly threaten to take kids away from whites who try to move areas so their school is mostly white, also while their own kids go to white schools, so they just deserve extermination for that alone.
>>539134160Modern jews call every system capitalism, except communism(which is another jewish control system), to create a false dichotomy.
>>539130591Is capitalism when you sanction another country for decades because they pose a power imbalance to the people with little hats? Is capitalism when you bail out billionaires because they are too big to fail? Is capitalism when you force passive investment and retirement accounts to hold the bag of a trillion dollar company in case it fails? Is capitalism when you have a central bank that dictates what metrics are used in order to decide intrest rates for everyone? None of this bullshit is capitalism.
>>539135245>>539135243>>539135202it is not about race or gender really, it is about private property vs. the common good.private property will always be against the common goodit doesn't matter how much the government has power over it, private property always generate ineuquality
>>539131318>The idea that we need to "survive" in this "wild world" is a capitalist idea.there aren't many ways of keeping the show going anon. you need a motivating factor. without it civilization collapses. civilization is based on people doing shit they don't feel like doing.I am amazed humans at large aren't acknowledging this. there is no grand conspiracy to humiliate and farm you. there is a fundamental need to, because if you are not coerced into working we all go to shit, we devolve into primitive violence and lack of resources and disease and pain and evil.thus the theater is for a higher purpose, quite objective higher purpose. your lamentation and lack of meaning in life means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, it's one of the most irrelevant things we as humans have to deal with, complete non-issue.you do not understand the real state of things, and what it takes to have order and civilisation. we're living the best times we ever did, as a species, and you're confused by lack of contrast. if we had one month every year playing out what lack of civilization would feel like for the average person, you'd forgo your meaningless "muh sense of purpose" bitch crying.there is no magic solution, our game is dictated by our nature, and current game is best it's ever going to get. and it will get worse with what's coming.
>>539135595this is totally scriptthis is actually the script of you defending the systemwhy? because you need to, because if you stop defending it you are going to die, in your own viewstop doing that
>>539135570>private property will always be against the common goodCapitalism isn't pro-private property in all cases. The gigajews in the world economic forum were free to use their wealth to push "you will own nothing and be happy" propaganda, which was the biggest campaign against private property in human history, and was done under a capitalist system. Once again, capitalism is about letting rich people do whatever the fuck they want with no consequences, and treating them like celebrities even if they are secretely sabotaging the nation.
>>539135245Everyone agree whether they like it or not that the functioning society comes from regulations, people just disagree what the regulations should be or who they should be aimed at. USA is extremely regulated on many areas like the ones you mentioned even if they have some freedoms most other countries lack, even for normies.Even the most ancap people in real life still come up with 1000 different regulations that are a must have for anything to function. They are of course right it could be done more efficiently.>>539135570>inequality evil>private property evil because it's one of the easiest things to measure inequality withYou start working back from deciding inequality is evil because some reason so you would only achieve a good world when there's 0% inequality because even 1% of inequality can result in massive differences. Which is why lefties eventually have to attack things that are inherently inequal such as beauty or intelligence to "achieve results" and who would have guessed there's zero organic demand for this kind of thing and people always self-segregate and choose who they hang out with once it's not enforced on gunpoint or threatening with child services.
>>539133396> government gives its power to print money and regulate businesses to large banks> banks impose total slavery on everyone> its not communism because communists pretend to be acting in the interests of the people>>539133499a better system would have a very small banking sector
>>539135716it is not script, it's history and lack of anyone showing anything else works better IN THE CURRENT FUCKING CIRCUMSTANCES, globally speaking, competitive setup.see, your silly childish "what if" scenarios are just that, stupid senseless shit, brain fart scenarios that are created such that you are not doing the shit you do not want to do.want to know why we are in this setup, now? because in reality you are a piece of shit, statistically speaking, and we know that. and we account for that, in the system. we know you lie, cheat and steal, and there's no end to how far you're willing to go to skirt doing what is needed. so when all of this is accounted for, you end with a system similar to this.again, your childish lamentations are irrelevant, when you account for everything you end up in this scenario, realistically speaking.
>>539135769They don't have any principles or if they have, they are not universalist ones obviously. They are not hypocrites tho, they just identify the almost-defeated middle class as their enemy and try to enforce policies to defeat their enemy. That's why they can at the same time want to read your private messages and hide theirs, collectivize your property but keep theirs. It's not hypocrisy, they just recognize you as the enemy.
>>539134729Maybe we should start with love. Imagine society being an extension of the family unit, where there is always support to get on your feet again and do better. And to not have the mindset that you are an individual, alone, fighting for your own survival, never able to focus on anything higher. Some space and ability to pursue a higher calling which might improve society for all. A lot of people blame a lot of other people these days but I think the issues are largely systemic.>create a system with money used as a unit of exchange>devalue that unit of exchange>deflect to ideologies, immigrants, and increasingly more bullshit reasons>hope everything somehow resolves itselfIt's so fucking stupid and it does neglect things like the importance of family and purpose. You get loved by having people love you, instead you con people into picking a university course they don't like, to get a job they think pays well.>"if we are nothing then what would we defend in war? who or what would be defended, who would be doing the defending?".Exactly, the logical inconsistencies just keep piling up. It's totally your fault for manspreading though.
>>539135827>>539135769the so called "gigajews" you talk about operate under private property. that is the problem, not only the gigajews, but anyone really.when you allow a group of people owning the means of production for their own interests it generates inequality not in the sense "people are not equal so we should not enforce equality", but in a sense "this type of inequality is brutal because it exploits other people's labor in order to exist".equaloty in this sense is not some ideal of justice that want to make everyone be the same, but just a sense that exploitation of labor is always bad.
>>539134973Agreed, agreed.Where is the free energy coming from?How do we harness it? Solar and wind are, very unfortunately, meme teir. Hydro electric is getting somewhere, but there are only so many rivers, and blocking them all up is pretty devestating to the environment.OPs vision requires answering so many questions, that its more of an intellectual excersize than anything else.Furthermore he's a dirty mixed race communist, as stated in his trip (what a fag lol), so fuck him.
>>539130591Capitalism is two people agreeing to an exchange without 3rd party involvement.What we have today isn't capitalism. Underneath every transaction is a banking system that steadily steals value from a means of trade which you're mandated to participate in at gunpoint. Banks used to need depositors to give out loans, now they rob everyone, even people denied access to banking, through inflation to hand out loans. Think about that, everything ever bought with a bank loan, you and I collectively paid for through inflation. Literally nothing belonging to the elites belongs to them, because they nearly all use the banking system to balloon their wealth at our expense.
>>539135994>Maybe we should start with love.others will abuse the shit out of it>Imagine society being an extension of the family unit, where there is always support to get on your feet again and do better.there are ways to in current society>never able to focus on anything higheryou do not need to focus on anything higher. you need to focus on your shit job, that is what we as society NEED you to do, not focus on higher shit. there's enough people that are professionals at that, and paid to do it. if you aren't one it means you are not fit for the job.>Some space and ability to pursue a higher calling which might improve society for allsomebody gotta flip the burgers, work in construction and collect the garbage. can't have everyone in "higher purposes". you NEED to be engineered into doing the shit stuff.>A lot of people blame a lot of other people these days but I think the issues are largely systemic.no, the issue is genetic really.>the importance of family and purposeyou need the apearance of. we cannot afford you having purpose. you need to do the job that is required anon. not that you like. life is not magical, else everyone would be born loving the job they do, and everyone would perfectly occupy all jobs that are needed in our society.but we're not born into this magical world, but a realistic one, where shit just happens for no real reason, we combat entropy by determining humans do shit they wouldn't do otherwise, thus they need motivating factors, thus you need to artificially create them, so they do the shit that is required.
>>539134986>The common good is socialism.Well it sure as Hell isn't communism because that also ends up with all the wealth in the hands of the owners. Maybe stricter controls that ensure people follow the ideology they impose upon everyone else instead of lining their own pockets and not giving a fuck. It is the old brilliant surgeons dilemma. Only an absolute psychopath would want to lead a country and maybe Plato is right, force a bunch of people into the role, selected for by a bunch of traits including not wanting to rule but being forced into it out of duty. Then maybe society could function a little better with people finding their place, and worth, inside of it, and it will all feel like a big family rather than a big slave plantation.
>>539135930you will defend the system until you die and you will probably die from it.the system I defend is not exactly a system but an idea that if you always defend the system you are going to be an slave and that is always bad.no system is good enough for people with free minds, so you should just give up your concerns about the "stability" of something that is not working very well for most people and actually do something better, even if this something is just being concerned by your situation, it is always better than nothing
>>539130591>Capitalism is a collective neural network that programs your brain to think "I need to work in order to survive".No, it's a scalable system of production driven by semi-coordinating parties through application of simple utility functions.
>>539135994Societies can work on a lot of good-will when people on at least some level realize the random person on street could be their brother, sister, parent, grandma, spouse, child, even a co-worker. Especially if the population is only some millions. And even these kinds of societies can have bloody civil wars and they seem to be real bloody because the conflict is avoided as long as possible and people keep telling themselves it's preventable and not inevitable.Lefties (correctly) keep crying how "young people are lost and they imagine future and they see nothing" ok and your solution is do more of cultural marxism and imprison people who say "this is not working and has no organic demand by anyone". Do everything you can to make it so the random on street has literally nothing common with you other than being a carbon-based living thing (obviously racist aka white people are responsible, not people who engineered the conditions). Do everything to take the spirit or magic out of things meaning no one beliefs the world existed before them or that it exists after them, or if it does it's all about suffering. So you take offspring away from the equation and the society still somehow barely functions, probably only because people want to avoid conflict; even the conflict would be seen as completely useless pursuit.
>>539130591You work or you die is literally what the USSR believed you retarded huemonkey
>>539136164Sometimes private property works and other times communities owning stuff works. Shared or public property owned by "no one" tends to go to shit or relies completely on some ocd type people maintaining and upkeeping it from going to shit while others don't give a shit if there's no name who owns it or who maintains it.
>>539136426>you will defend the system until you die and you will probably die from it.no you idiot, I'm defending order and high standard of living, as compared to shitholes with no laws, no medicine and no safety.>the system I defend is not exactly a system but an ideayes I keep trying to tell you that you are a fucking clueless imbecile but you keep missing my point>no system is good enough for people with free minds,fuck your free mind faggot, get to fucking work>some blabla nonsensethe system needs to account for all variations. society is not made up from clones of yourself you fucking imbecile, it's made up from all sorts of people that would try to milk and abuse the system in any imaginable way, and humans are creative as fuck.funnily enough your lamentations with the system are exactly because of pieces of shit like you trying to subvert the system so they don't do what is needed to do. idiots like you bring chaos, instability and society collapse in otherwise good working systems, because of your imbecilic higher meaning and purpose load of crapwhen savages bust your door open rape your family and execute them in front of you all of your higher purpose nonsense means nothing. you defend from that scenario by flipping those fucking burgers you hate to flip you imbecile.
>>539136225>capitalism is just trade dudeyou are like a fish in an ocean of capitalism and of course you think capitalism=trade, because it is basically the only form of trade you knowcapitalism is a very specific type of trade, where one person owns the means of production and the other sells their labor "to survive"it is a trade that always benefit the owner, no matter what, it is an scriped gamereal trade can only exist outside of capitalism
>>539130591Capitalism is just how retards call greedy people because they believe their commie overlords give a shit about them. Them you get sent to gulag or die in the bread line because a greedy fucker used the goverment to secure the resources for themselves. "Capitalists" (jews) had no problem in joining commies (jews) to create the FED.
>>539136436no, it is private property that exploits other people's life force and make them believe they will die if they do not serve it
>>539135202>These people constantly threaten to take kids away from whites who try to move areas so their school is mostly white, also while their own kids go to white schools, so they just deserve extermination for that alone.Kek it seems impossible to escape the establishment of two tier systems, doesn't it? >>539135245Absolutely not. People, once in power, appear to lose the strength of their own convictions, and everything they do is about shoring up their own position, usually at the expense of the plebs below them, who they then disdain out of psychological comfort, trying to ignore the fact that the feeling is mutual. I can't remember the last time I ever saw or heard of any political system where the rulers were able to hold dear to the values of that system, and not become corrupted, self serving fucks whose disconnect with their fellow man becomes their defining trait. They're weak, they can't do it. Either they don't have the strength of conviction or they don't have any convictions at all.
>>539136735Whatever, dude
>>539130591No, you retard, it's "i need to consoom useless shit." That's what keeps capitalism going. Imagine what would happen to apple, samsung, etc. if normalfags only bought a new smartphone once the previous one broke down. Mine lasted for nine whole years.
>>539136863Not fully impossible to escape yet because they still haven't implemented soviet uniot tier domestic passport where you have to ask for a visa to move to a different area within the country :) People say it's cowardly to infinitely retreat and yes but it's still morally net positive for white families with kids because the kid will only ever have one childhood to look back to so if their first 18 years are fully spent in zoo conditions then the parents are monsters to not try to prevent it.Unless the parents voted for it and proceed to vote for it after saving their own hide by moving areas. There are countless cases and probably far more of these cases of leftie cunts getting kids and moving because "they like countryside" than families identifying as nazis doing the same. These leftie cunts deserve all kinds of gated/fenced areas they should be forced to live in with people they demand to be imported and never deported.
>>539137238consumerism is just a face of capitalismthe real face of capitalism is exploitation of labornot everything under capitalism is useless. the food you eat is processed under capitalism, and that is the bad part.people need stuff, they need to eat, shower, wear stuff, this is not just useless, but the process in which these things exist now is based on exploitation.exploitation is when you are forced to work otherwise you will die, or at least you need to think this way.
>>539135570>it is about private property vs. the common good.This but also >>539135595>we're living the best times we ever didYes, but only so far, and the inability to see the solutions to the problems inherent within this system is our real problem, because it doesn't need to be the best we ever get. And although there are a lot of perceptive anons in this thread I think we all struggle to fully visualise a society a step above capitalism in the same way that capitalism is a step above the nasty, brutish thing that came before. I think that's why more support, both resourcewise and otherwise always occurs to people, if a strengthening of social cohesion and cooperation worked that way once maybe it can work again.>>>539135716>it is not script, it's history and lack of anyone showing anything else works better IN THE CURRENT FUCKING CIRCUMSTANCESOh anon stop. It's always that way until someone does come up with a way that works better. It was that way before capitalism. It's OK to talk about it and share ideas. How can that hurt?
>>539137238Some otherwise normal people have really shitty habits of making/saving up decent amount of money just to shovel it to fucking evil companies to buy the newest shit. Mostly the stuff you don't need like the phones you mentioned or newest video games, un fucking believable. I can get the psychology of attending an event when the newest shit drops but fuck paying these companies for anything full price. Just buy everything used or from sales, never pay them full price for anything.
>>539137554And giving all the property to evil fucking cunts who hate whites makes everyone free of labor exploitation and evil inequality.
>>539137621race war will stop under communismnot only race, but gender war and any type of war possiblebecause communism is when private property is abolished everywhere and humans agree to cooperate for the common good
>>539137783>allow people to segregate into countries or within bigger countries like usa or russia>have no racial conflicts without needing to give psychopaths full control over private property>stand some actual chance to defeat evil oligarchs because there's no +20 different groups who are constantly close to conflict and full of distrust on horizontal level instead of vertical level on the pyramids
>>539130591No thanks.
>>539137621Anon, he's a mixed Brazilian commie, pointing out how whites would suffer doesn't register with his kind. Its probably a positive for him.
>>539132296I don't understand what this low IQ drivel is supposed to be. Could you please clarify?
>>539138385I know. At best he's indifferent.
>>539135829Maybe it could be as simple as banks that operate in a different way? The whole fiat trick is effective while being essentially worthless.>>539136319>others will abuse the shit out of itNo doubt. There is a human problem which stops things being managed fairly and it had to be compensated for somehow.>>539136319>you do not need to focus on anything higher. you need to focus on your shit job, that is what we as society NEED you to do, not focus on higher shit.Higher shit as in inventions which will improve society as a whole. Of course we need people to do each job but jobs did not come into exist because of capitalism, previously there was bartering and exchange of goods and services. So there can be another way again to compensate people for their time and effort. Even the shit jobs. It's not about elevating one job class above another but rather how can we have all of these jobs but not have people suffering from the negative effects of capitalism. That is systemic because capitalism puts a price on everything to the extent that it begins to cause problems rather than solve them. They're talking about trading trees on the stock market, anon. If everything is artificially created then something different can be created to replace the system we were born into, you do not have to view it's limits and restrictions as unchangeable.
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I should be able to reply to my own post without triggering the spam filter. Phwee.>>539136484I think it would be better to focus on increasing goodwill within society. Yes there can still be all the usual problems, but capitalism fails to capture and tend to things essential to the human spirit. >>539136484>Lefties (correctly) keep crying how "young people are lost and they imagine future and they see nothing" ok and your solution is do more of cultural marxismWe all hit a brick wall, I think. It's easy to imagine how changing this or that thing might improve everything. Since communism is the known antipode to capitalism people jump on it as a solution. In reality we can barely imagine the solution because it does not exist yet. It takes a special mind to fully break free of the conditioning of the society it was born into, to be able to not only see but construct a better way. The current degradation feels like people desperately trying to paper over the cracks while no one has, or is brave enough to implement an actually good idea, or try anything new. I'm not sure what outcome leftists seek, there are only so many things that can be critiqued or levelled, but yes attacking things like beauty is just counterproductive. An ideology eating itself because, in some small way, it recognises it is part of the cancer that needs to be gnawed off. Conflict would make everything worse, I think most can recognise that.
>>539139544I think Slavoj Zizek mirrored this exact sentiment. About goodwill. He also claims cynicism, in a way, is also ideology. I for one root for AI to become more intelligent, and tell us what to do. I think that's a valid solution. It will take something so fucking retarded to out scale Capitalism.
>>539139720I mean AI to literally rule over us and give us directions on a day to day basis.
>>539136184It gets worse when you read the /x/ tier threads on ether and then see scientists being popped off even as mainstream science outlets proclaim we are getting ever closer to fusion technology. Any scientific advancement that might provide this seems like it is either stifled because of corporate interests or military interests. I get guarding it closely if it could do harm, but holding such a thing back for profits is unconscionable. There's also the question of how you could ever convince established interests to move forwards for the sake of humanity, rather than just themselves. We're going to need a bigger orb to answer OP, for sure. Also kek.
>>539139720>Slavoj ZizekIs he the one who sounds like a dribbling spastic and says loads of specious things?
>>539140070Yes. He's an expert at critiquing capitalism, although he doesn't do it as much for the past 10 years. And he is quite smart, as a matter of fact.
>>539139720Based Slobvoj Zizek.It's actually disgusting to think that AI is preferable to humans simply because none of the humans in charge are willing to be fair and a fucking computer is more capable of having compassion and acting upon it than people who apparently have working prefrontal cortexes. If anyone is still unsure as to why people support Luigi, this is probably the reason why.
