[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/pol/ - Politically Incorrect


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: adolf hitler.jpg (283 KB, 960x1329)
283 KB JPG
How can you support this man?

Common consensus here seems to be white supremacy, or at the very least white nationalism. Yet also, at the same time, that Hitler and National Socialism were actually the good guys and history as we are taught is simply a lie.

If you claim the narrative about ww2 is false, and at the same time are a white nationalist/white supremacist (again, as seems to be common here) how can you support a man and an ideology who, according to you, didn't actually kill your alleged enemies, but killed a ton, and i mean a ton of white people, and actually hated and looked down on anyone but his specific type of white people?
>>
File: IMG_2120.jpg (115 KB, 1204x674)
115 KB JPG
>>539132661
Bump
>>
File: dr scholz.png (1.11 MB, 1252x915)
1.11 MB PNG
>>539132661
its family tradition
>>
Why does Hitler have agency but no English or French or American leader? Why didn't Roosevelt or Churchill destroy Jewish bankers and help him destroy Bolshevism? Fuck off to Reddit shill
>>
>>539133626
he wanted to enslave or exterminate your entire ethnicity, and he's not alone in that thought. previous german leaders were just like that too, von hindenburg iirc.
>>
>>539133720
What you think you're the first person telling me this?
>>
>>539133855
probably not. but i figured since you seem to want to defend him so earnestly you may as well read from first sources what he and his contemporaries thought. This isn't "muh allied propaganda" he wrote it himself that he wanted land in the east
>>
File: 1723312808801072.jpg (77 KB, 800x534)
77 KB JPG
>>539133720
no
>>
>>539133926
I share those same sentiments!
>>
>>539133937
yeah, he respected one specific man. just like he respected stalin. what are you gonna tell me he didn't look down on the russians next?
>>
>>539133418
>How can you support someone that when betrayed: a bunch of whites die
Geez idk maybe pilpul harder, kike
>>
>>539134003
Why are you such a hysterical sissy?
The Germans passed laws back then that were a little harsh, but no one forced the Poles to risk the death penalty for Jews.
>>
>>539133926
Nigga you're retarded
>>
>>539134093
>Yeah dude just ignore the fact that this retard ruined nationalism and turned it into an untouchable subject, tried to colonize the eastern part of europe, gave it to communism because of his retardation, and caused millions of deaths directly in a war, with several more indirectly due to the spread of communism.
>>
>>539132661
Hitler was a drug addicted degenerate bag of mental illnesses. The only good thing he did was blow his own brains out.
>>
>>539134125
great argument
>>
>>539134093
I'm not gonna larp and say Hitler was some great friends of ours and wanted to save us but most polish deaths is just retaliatory actions for the sabotages of polish resistance or breaking German law via aiding the resistance or working against the occupier. Most poles seem to think we were entitled to some special treatment and the Germans were supposed to let us get away with everything.
>>
>>539134221
>You are never ever ever ever supposed to try to win because you might lose
You are a parody
>>
>>539134329
>just don't resist when you're being invaded and you won't be retaliated against, duh!

wow, great point!
>>
File: kek.gif (261 KB, 250x200)
261 KB GIF
>>539134221
>its hitlers fault for communism rising
kek, whats next? are you going to dindunuffing the allies and the germans killed themselves?
>>
>>539134364
yeah no i don't think he should've tried a colonial project in half of europe. And he should indeed have known better.
>>
>>539134383
Nigger what do you think is happening on the ground in 1940 or whatever? You have to actively want to ruin your life and go massiv out of your way to help resistance efforts. You have no imagination. Quit watching movies.
>>
>>539134386
remind me of this very big pact that ribbentrop signed with...huh...some guy...what was his name? what did the pact do? m...something.
>>
>>539134424
Isn’t a European colonial project done by a European far more ethical than the colonization of foreign races?
>>
>>539134424
>>539134500
>I'm smarter than the people who conquered all of Europe
Are you 14?
>>
>>539134476
that's not my argument. the initial point was that invasion in and of itself was unjustified and evil, military resistance was to be expected, as was later partisan resistance.
>>
>>539134571
ethical on what grounds? i was coming at it from the perspective that this is a pro-white board and therefore it's unethical on those grounds.
>>
File: 1235235235856288.jpg (28 KB, 430x567)
28 KB JPG
>>539134329
imagine your government would impose the death penalty for helping muslims and some polacks decide to help them and get killed.
would they still cry about it?
>>539134500
why are you not talking about the economic pact a few years prior, the soviet union pinky promised to deliver stuff, they didnt deliver anything but got a shitton of machines from germany.
>>
>>539134642
>>539134612
Slavs aren't white
>>
>>539134580
they lost. And yeah, it was a retarded idea.
>>
>>539132661
Adolf Hitler was responsible for initiating World War II and caused unprecedented devastation and millions of deaths. I, personally, hate him for not eliminating enough kikes in his time, though. He just couldn't get the job done, and for that, he should be shunned.
>>
>>539134648
i'm not pro soviet. i am asking why did he ally with them in the first place especially since he allegedly hated them so much
>>
>>539134671
>they lost.
You would have done better obviously. Do you realize than you're supposed to ignore hindsight?
>>
>>539134733
>than
that*
>>
>>539134733
no, i actually wouldn't have tried to invade half of fucking europe for my retarded ideology. My critique is ideological, not military
>>
File: IMG_3750.jpg (175 KB, 375x471)
175 KB JPG
>>539134642
It’s ethical because he was invading countries that were being subverted by jews. He lost the war, and now the whole world is being subverted and controlled by jews. From Weimar Germany to now Weimarworld.
>>
>>539134808
>I'm not pro-white
>I hate Hitler
>This board that is pro-white loves Hitler and I don't understand that
Genuinely what is your problem nigger?
>>
>>539134674
WW1, and the treaty of Versailles initiated WW2. It was made inevitable on purpose.
>>
>>539134929
They couldn't have possibly known that
>>
>>539134840
ah yes, the FIGHT AGAINST BOLSHEVISM.

one problem though. he explicitly wrote in mein kampf that he wanted to colonize. The FIGHT AGAINST BOLSHEVISM was just propaganda. you can't really argue with mein kampf
>>
>>539134731
are you retarded or just historical illiterate?
they were buying time to get ready, the soviet union would have invaded every country and the german leadership assumed that it would impossible to defend.
fun fact: the germans never force conscripted the "invaded" countries, every non german was a volunteer
>>
>>539134929
debateable. my feelings about jews remain
>>
>>539132661
He was working with the good guys. Killing demons is generally morally acceptable worldwide, in many cultures and believes, so you cannot claim this is something exclusive to white supremacy. Christianity canonizes many demon slayers so there is no reason to condemn him from a western christian sense, either.
>>
>>539135025
yeah, useful idiots. to defend what? maybe the new borders of the reich from an incoming soviet invasion. certainly not anyone else. He wrote explicitly that he wanted the land.
>>
>>539132661
> Commies are people

Are you retarded?
>>
>>539135102
>Let ME tell YOU about YOUR ideology
NGMI
>>
File: 1723119959499124.jpg (79 KB, 567x633)
79 KB JPG
>>539135102
defend a normal life, not the shitshow after the allied victory.
imagine if they drafted every country for meatwaves against the soviet union.
your kvetching would have never stopped
>>
>>539134977
Are you arguing with a Hitler quote, instead of me? Who is arguing with Mein Kampf? You can be both against jewish Bolsheviks, and for colonizing Eastern lands. It’s like you’ve just stuck your toe into the confusing jewish propaganda surrounding WW2, and came out swinging wildly.
>>
>>539135168
no, let him tell you about it

>"The mission of the National-Socialist movement is to give our people the political insight needed so they do not see their future aim in the romantic image of a new campaign by Alexander the Great, but they see their future working busily at the German plow for which the sword will provide the soil."

>>539135219
a normal life for who? for his settlers?
>>
File: HGMrvV2XgAApexS.jpg (103 KB, 531x680)
103 KB JPG
>>539132661
>>
>>539135264
ah okay, so you're for his plan to colonize eastern europe?
>>
>>539135331
(he also relied on plundering everything he invaded and saw you as an asian subhuman who should at best be driven out to make room for more germans but ignore that for your gay infographics instead)
>>
>>539135310
>The mission of the National-Socialist movement is to give our people the political insight needed so they do not see their future aim in the romantic image of a new campaign by Alexander the Great, but they see their future working busily at the German plow for which the sword will provide the soil.
Why would a white supremacist be against that?
>>
>>539132661
btw dont forget he betrayed the guys who helped him reach the power (Long Knives 1934)

>Strasser Brothers
>Ernst Rohmn

and a lot of other guys
>>
>>539135412
Like, you could as well tell me that Hitler disliked Jews.
>>
>>539135412
because to any non-nordicist, white includes slavs
>>
>>539135310
for everyone.
i bet you didnt know that less people died in the offensive of the german military in whole europe than 1 month of defending against allied attacks.
netherland was beautiful.
250 died during the whole invasion and 500 civilians died during ONE bomb attack by the british
>>
>>539135395
Yeah dude he was based, we get it
>>
>>539135418
yeah, but to be fair they were even more ideologically captured and retarded than him. Iirc they wanted to literally dismantle the army and put themselves in charge. A bunch of retarded hooligans. I mean could just be a typical commie purge masked as that, but if that is truly what happened i guess it makes sense.
>>
>>539135471
Obviously if someone likes Hitler they're a Nordicist? Why are you goal posting your own question?
>>
File: 3375784.jpg (44 KB, 640x640)
44 KB JPG
>>539132661
No sane person supports him, he was wrong about nearly everything. Hitler was not building a nation, he was constructing a personal army with a state which he could command to conquer more and more subjects for him to rule over. All the talk about race, Jews, Soviets, capitalism were mere tools to promise a brighter future to a defeated nation and then scare them into total submission to later use for personal ambitions. Germans were just pawns in his game, which he utilized and then discarded when they stopped being useful to him at the end of the war. Nothing he did was done for the people - to him they were a resource that could first increase economic output to construct tanks, then manufacture cogs for his war machine and then ultimately become disposal cogs in it themselves.

Right-wingers cling to his image and name only because most are into Nazism for its aesthetics and not the actual ideas behind the ideology. This self-association with SS officers in Hugo Boss uniforms feeds their ego and lets them participate in a power fantasy roleplay to compensate for the lack of power they have in real life. That's the sole reason why they cannot let go off Hitler, swastika and other attributes of Nazism. The irony is - all of this religious clinging to the Nazi stuff ultimately serves to damage the very ideas they claim to represent, because any connection to Hitler is an ultimate taboo which would scare away many potential sympathizers and will make it easier for the opponents of the movement to discredit it publicly. But to them all of this is acceptable as long as they can continue indulging in this Nazi roleplay and imagine themselves riding Panzer tanks into battle. Like with almost every ideology, first it comes as a tragedy and then recreates itself as a farce. Right now the right-wing is going through the latter stage.
>>
>>539135487
ah yes, for everyone. like the ukrainians he pushed contraceptives and abortions on, plundering their farms and setting up the same collective farm systems as communism.
>>
File: IMG_3746.png (1.31 MB, 869x749)
1.31 MB PNG
>>539135350
Yes, why aren’t you? Also, that’s of little importance to the core ideology of National Socialism. National Socialists of today are not required to invade Eastern Europe. Hitler said National Socialism is the highest form of government created, and should be sought by all capable of achieving it(paraphrased).
>>
>>539135596
>Ukrainians
>Humans
Kek
>>
>>539135560
no actually, most people here seem totally unaware and have bought into the europa the last battle slop propaganda. Not in this thread, just, in general
>>
>>539135596
>like the ukrainians he pushed contraceptives and abortions on
whats wrong about that?
a few years later they got hit by a huge famine and it was not the first
like i said, you are just a hysterical pussy.
sometimes you have to make hard decisions
>>
>>539135549
True but at least they were true ''National Socialists'' (Note the '''SOCIALISTS''

also
NSDAP would be just a niche radical party historically like the PNS in Poland
if wasn't by Strassers,
>>
>>539135643
because i am also an eastern european, and i like slavs. i see them as part of my broader in group
>>
>>539135665
You're not entitled to an opinion about this because you're a newfag and I know that because you both used greentext and quotation marks to frame a quote.
>>
File: IMG_3976.png (318 KB, 491x334)
318 KB PNG
>>539135593
>No sane person
>capitalizing jews on a khazarian baby tasting enthusiasts image enabled chat room
>wall of pilpul
Oy vey!
>>
>>539135700
>What's wrong with genociding white people
>>
File: 1780648261989041.gif (1.61 MB, 348x372)
1.61 MB GIF
>>539132661
I like the uniforms. Pick up the can.
>>
> how can i support the man that hated jews and wanted to build a white ethnostate with racial hierarchy?

how can i not support him?
>>
>>539135828
Slavs aren't white
>>
>>539135740
I like Slavs, and see them as apart my broader group. A lot has changed in 80 years, especially the stranglehold of the jews on the world.

t. German, French, and English mutt
>>
>>539135920
yes you can stop now, we get it, we got all your insight already. if you're not a slav why are you in poland?
>>
>>539134571
>>539134648
>>539135095
>>539135331
>>539135518
>>539135860
>>539135906
All patriots btw
>>
File: 1719508278617907.gif (945 KB, 155x173)
945 KB GIF
>>539135828
>come into a agricultural slav state with 10 children in each family
>calculate that their income is not enough to sustain that amount
>start to controll the population growth
ITS A GENOCIDE
kek
>>
>>539135593
>>539135806
post-ww2 russia/ussr founding myth relies on anti-nazi and anti-german rhetoric
ze greatness aryses from destrojing ze evil dschörrmans, who raped, looted, plundered, burned and destroyed ze rashan mazzerland, ja, ja
>sigh
its a fair assessment, granted
but it is also irrational, in this day and age
(and we had our losses too)
>>
>>539135828
Who said colonialism means genocide? He was spreading an empire like Rome.
>>
>>539135991
I am a slav. I'm just not a neurotic victim complex retard that feels entitled to an identity just because of my geographic location.
>>
>>539132661
>>
>>539136140
Notice how there hasn't been any shills in this thread? I imagine that one Russian guy is organic.
>>
File: IMG_2529.jpg (105 KB, 680x510)
105 KB JPG
>>539136119
Let’s not forget that many Slavs fought on Hitler’s behalf. You probably have more information about this fresh on your brain than I do.
>>
>>539132661
>Hitler did nothing wrong.
He did do something wrong. He was too merciful to the jews.
>>
>>539132661
He killed more whites than anyone else in history (not percentage-wise) but grand total.
But he supposedly was an advocate for TKD/TND so chuds love him
>>
>>539136119
>Slav
>lives in slav land
>hates slavs and sees them as non white (presumably also inferior)
this self hatred feels very performative and attention seeking to me.
>>
>>539136301
I just realized my pic related could be confusing. I meant it in the spirit of the thread, and not with any meaning to my post.
>>
>>539136301
>You probably have more information about this fresh on your brain than I do.
I'm sorry but I don't really concern myself with that. I hate the trope that National-Socialism is an ideology for everyone because I'm a genuine Nordicist.
>>
>>539136406
>this self hatred feels very performative and attention seeking to me.
I literally have first hand experience with Slavic people this couldn't possibly be less performative.
>>
File: 1762991289601396.jpg (89 KB, 469x858)
89 KB JPG
>>539132661
posted it again award
>>
>>539136406
Feel the same way about Leafland desu senpai
>>
>>539132661
Can't support him since he's dead but he has been proven right and ultimately vindicated in his unapologetic opposition to the jews. Would go as far to say that he is a hero.
>>
>>539136537
>>539136502
Also I don't hate myself. I believe in Nordicism in principle in the sense that the superiority of Germanic people is a general truth, but I'm not necessarily saying that something should be done about that. Germanic people have been responsible for almost civilisational advancement since antiquity and Poles have, and continue to, align themselves, even if subconsciously (especially if subconsciously, because it's genetic) with anti-civilizaitonal, anti-european forces. I mean, it's more nuanced than that but it's past midnight here and I haven't really slept in a week almost.
>>
>>539136697
>almost civilisational
almost all civilizational*
>>
Or it simply defaults to the idea that Jews wanted to annihilate Hitler and Germany, Hitler was right about Jews, and I don't care question him about anything else.
>>
File: 1774855260127047.png (586 KB, 848x919)
586 KB PNG
>>539134222
>
>>
>>539136697
Why can’t you sleep?
>>
>>539136854
Because I'm only a radical online and have to work a job and a half irl
>>
>>539136854
>>539136903
But if there's anything specific you want to know you can ask
>>
File: IMG_1532.gif (400 KB, 1280x720)
400 KB GIF
>>539136903
I hope you get good restful sleep anon.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.