There are two paths in life. And there are two kinds of learning which correspond to the two paths. These paths are polar opposites and mutually exclusive. This is actually embedded in the movie The Matrix, this video is relevant to that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFTmiAx7R48***path one***Mind over matter. The path of self-sacrifice. The path of Jesus. The path of the spirit. This corresponds to learning for intellectual cultivation and truth. The path of pure ideas. This path cultivates curiosity. It's the path of enlightenment and liberation.***path two***Matter over mind. The path of the ego. The path of the flesh. The path of pragmatism. This corresponds to learning for utility. This path kills curiosity. Picrel is the motto that people walking this path live by. These people are uncultured and destined for hell.Most people are walking path two. There is nothing that can be done to lead them out of it. They will keep walking this path until eventually their suffering might cause them to wake up.>>>/wsg/6195115>>>/wsg/6188932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAp8hX0U-jw
>>539158262Calling practical learning "matter over mind" assumes the conclusion.The same knowledge can be pursued for curiosity, truth, and usefulness simultaneously.A doctor can study medicine to understand life and to heal people. A mathematician can seek beauty and also build technology.The choice is not spirit OR utility. That is a false binary.
>>539158262Study logic OP. Truth-seeking ∧ Utility-seeking is possible.Therefore:¬(A ⊕ B)The two "paths" are not logically exclusive; they are two possible motivations that can coexist
Why should mind or matter be above one or another? The harmonious function of both is the best option. Ascetism is as harmful as gluttony. The mind has to push the body forward, and the body gives the mind strength to interact with the world. Both are a union.
>>539158489golden mean
>>539158401no it's not a false dichotomy, fuck off spamming degenerate
>>539158262curious how all your spam threads use the same formattingwhy is that I wonder?
>>539158548I despise moderatism in general, as it encourages a weak-minded approach to problems that require a radical solution (like killing all judeo-satanists you can gind to heal the world, similar to how you have to fight cancer). It's not really about moderation, it's about fully unlocking your potential by fully bringing body and mind into harmony. It is extremism in itself because a perfect union is difficult to achieve.
>>539158586How are my arguments wrong though You said truth-seeking and usefulness are mutually exclusive.One counterexample disproves that: someone can study medicine because they love knowledge and because they want to help people.Both motives exist together.A ∧ B is possible.Therefore A ⊕ B is false.
>>539158625extreme moderation is the perfect harmony. Its like stabilising a spinning object into center.
>>539158489You don't know what "mind over matter" and "matter over mind" mean. These are terms which describe two fundamentally different worldviews, mentalism or philosophical idealism vs philosophical materialism. The former says matter arises out of mind and is dependent on mind, the latter says mind arises out of matter and is dependent on matter.The former is the worldview of George Berkeley and many other philosophers. The book Problems of Philosophy by Bertrand Russell says it's the worldview of most philosophers. I haven't read the book The Kybalion but the wikipedia article about it says it promotes this worldview.https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5827/5827-h/5827-h.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kybalion#Seven_Hermetic_principles>1. The principle of mentalism>"The All is Mind; the Universe is Mental."
great fucking discussion as always, vapid fucking coombrains, fucking airheads
Path one is Europe, the only civilized part of the world.Path two is the anglosphere.
>>539158262False Dichotomy
>>539158586>>539159258Ad Hominem OP btfo
>>539159571no it's not, and you're not making an argument, and you're a retard who doesn't even know what mind over matter and matter over mind mean
>>539159604you don't even know what ad hominem is
>>539159258>>539159474Thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread. The information you dropped is amazing dude and we are truly blessed to have been graced by your immense wisdom.
>>539159609I know nothing but that you're a faggot>>539159632You attacked my Volksgenossen's character instead of his actual argument
>>539158262Can i have third path where i cease to exist?
>>539159712fuck off retard
>>539159846path two is where you cease to exist, because you're walking into death and oblivion, that's where the anglophones are headed, you're already far down that path judging by how vapid you all are
>>539159632>>539159877>>539159946Answer if you dare and if you dont you are gay confirmed.>>539158660
>>539158262>The MatrixWhy do conspiratorial midwits love that movie so much?
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