So why did the Russia start a war they can't win?And why did they kill 3 million of their own people?Is their leadership severely mentally ill?
If you kill your enemies they win, Putin told me
Ukraine's missing 1/4 of its territory but apparently they're "winning"
you're going to be sent back, tarassyrskyi needs you
>>539170124They are starting to exhaust srusskiy multiculti churka dagestani empire.Thats a big win in my book
>>539170124Ukraine wins by surviving. Puccia is the most sanctioned country on the planet, their military lost all deterrence and prestige.
>>539170124>>539170149> t. Assblasted vatniggers Lmao!
>>539169988The war is not over yet. Russia can still win as Putin promised
>>539170149Butthurt over that depot in moscow zigger? How is your copium reserve holding up?
>>539170208>Ukraine wins by surviving.So the day they cede Donbas to Russia they'll win by surviving. Got it. At least you're honest about your pre-emptive cope.
>>539169988How do you know they didn’t win?Because CNN told you so?
>>539170208>their military lost all deterrence and prestigeYep before the SMO they were seen as a capable fighting force but after the past 5 years that image evaporated lol.
>half of Ukraines male population is a casualty or escaped>conscription on the streets like a police state>males can't even legally leave the country>economy in ruins>20% of country is controlled by opposing country>no sign of this ending any time soon How is Ukraine winning again?
>>539170208>Ukraine wins by survivingLol. RIP
>>539169988>they can't winkek they are literally winning and they will win this war.>hoooow??EU and USA are printing money. Too much of it. Hyperinflation will strike everyone in the west real soon. The west will seethe.
>>539170124Most of that territory they were missing since 2014 you fucking retard.If millions of Americans died for 1/3 of Mexico, would that be a win?
>>539170215Who is this woman? An official Russian diplomat or Jenn Psakis counterpart in Russias version of CNN?
>>539170304How is Russia winning again?
>>539169988Just the price of doing Monkey Business
>>539170343Ukraine has a future ahead. Russia doesn't have any future. Not anymore.
>>539170358>Most of that territory they were missing since 2014That's not the great argument you think it is, even if it were accurate. That means Russia was winning eight years before the invasion.
>>539170208>Ukraine wins by surviving"Ukraine" will be Africanized within 10 years and the excuse, obviously, will be replacing the 50% of their population that is now gone. The only way "Ukraine" "survives" is if they immediately direct their rage at the real enemies- the EU and every shitskin invader on the continent. This is reality. They lost on Day 1.
>>539169988Well, it's a civil war more than anything else, and they pretty much had no option.The only alternative was allowing yourself to be forced to become gay, which is associated with a massive drop in the quality of life. Because of all the things gay people do to the rest of society (gay nepotism, provoking racism or doing the opposite and importing racial sewage).Sometimes you have no alternative but to fight
>>539170373>An official Russian diplomatShe is. You just don't know in your naïveté, and think every country works like your freedomland.
>>539170465>Putin's land grab of neighboring countries is actually a civil warHilarious cope
>>539170424>>539170459Puccia has collapsed twice in 20th century. Without the anglo-kike asisstance they would collapse in 1941 as well. Like i said before, Pussia has no future. Pussians have no future. Occupying some Ukrainian land won't bring them any wealth or peace.
>>539170238The only way Russia "wins" this shitshow is by putting that psychotic manlet Putim up against the wall.
>>539170419Sad that these soulless mentally ill degenerates and their worshippers will never see personal justice. They can't be flayed 3 million times for tge 3 million souls they've taken, and the other 20 million that have been displaced. You know what's stopping that justice from happening? The flying monkeys. The normie cattle who unconditionally worship men like Putrid.
>>539170208according to janissar churkalosing half of your population is winning.
>nigger things>in nigger lands
>>539170605>admits they have collapsed twice>but also asserts they have no futureMy dude, they don't seem to have too much of a problem continuing their modus operandi after a collapse.
>>539170927>they don't have too much of a problemAre you sure about that?
>>539171025
>>5391701241/4 of ukraine is enough to justify demantling the great power russia?
>>539170885Germans had a 1:10 kill ratio against puccian subhumans, so they won
>>539170419>the future in question
>>539171206Of all the vatfrican cope of this war this may be my favourite.
>>539171119Chat is this woman’s face real?
>>539171196now show military death stats and not civilians, cockroach
>>539170124>Ukraine's missing 1/4 of its territory but apparently they're "winning"Russia's missing 1/2 of its refining capacity but apparently they're "winning."
>>539171290so in the end, the ukranny becomes like russia? then why are millions being press ganged by their exclusively jewish government? i thought it was to prevent such a fate?
>>539171367Puccia has proven to be inferior in every metric. You are worthless subhumans. Worse than niggers.
>>539171377lmao
>>539171533show the military stats brownoid piglet
>>539171541>>539171417wtf, cum/chug/gers told me zased pussia was le heckin savior of the white racerino!!1!
>>539171616Pussians are worthless than roadside dogs. A brownoid piglet is worth more than a pussian. That's why 2 million of casualties you had while capturing some villages from a neighbour country.
>>539169988If you think oligarchs give a shit that 3 million of people died you must be high or something.
>>539170124shit, did they finally move past the 1/5th mark
Because russians are quite literally niggers.
>>539171629>>539171695holy melty
>>539171745Only ones that melt is the invading pussian soldiers. they melted in hundred thousands.
>>539171629seething on the internet will not save the ukrannyyou will never be western or respected by the west btw. seething about this will not save the ukranny either
>>539171832oh my god pussia is going to fucking destroy us as soon as they figure out how to capture farmland held by militia-tier forces. Lol, you are impotent fucks. More jewish than ukies, more subhuman than everyone else around.
>half the threads on this board rn
>>539171997hilarious when puccians think only ukrainians hate them.
>>539171937>besmirching the jews when you've been desperately shilling for them in /pig/why'd you flee btw? got tired of being humiliated by persian GAWDS raping mutt bases after claiming they couldn't? KWAB
>>539171377>w-we hurt their wallet slightly!oh nomeanwhile Ukraine is being depopulated
>>539170356>ziggers high on copiumKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAlso benzine shortages all over ruzzia as we speak
>>539172167>pussian>calling other jewslol. lmao even. jews own 75% of wealth in Pussia despite having population less than 1%
>>539172263i didnt call you a jew, i called you a jew slave shabbos goy obedient golem servant
>>539172263How the hell is legal in Moldova and Belarus but not in Romania and Russia ?Even in Bulgaria is legal wtf?!?
>>539169988>So why did the Russia start a warOh anon I.......
>>539171541so huh... they are blowing up 1 refinery per day more or less how fucker are ya lil zigg zigg muskoviteNO MORE BENZINE ,except for muscovites pidor maybe?Why are fsb shills trying to hide the reality of fuel shortages in ruzzia?
>>539172335>>539172335zero self awareness. typical from a puccian
>>539172071lol the meltdown continuesukraine worships niggers
>>539169988All slavics are mentally ill. I can say this because every slav that I ever met was an irrational lunatic.
>>539170424>>539170356Nobody is saying that taking 1/4 of Ukraine in 2014 and suffering just a couple of casualties wasn't a resounding success. It's the 2022 invasion that might cost them even these gains.So his argument would be more like the USA starting a war against Mexico, and the Americans getting their ass kicked so hard the possibility of losing California, Texas, Arizona, Colorado and NM becomes real.
>>539172335Zero. Self. Awareness.
>>539172474Putin started the war when he invaded his neighboring countries. The same applies to Georgia, Dagestan, and Ukraine.
>>539169988>3 million Russian deadYes, and the ukraine has a 42:1 KDR
>>539171709How can the simple people ignore this catastrophe? This is worse for them than any other war in their history. They just went from 21st century to feudalism.
>>539169988this question has been asked gazillion times and the gazillionth time the answer is that the point of war is to keep people that are in power, in power
>>539170419>the ukraine has a futureYes, and a very promising one given all the men are dead and all the women fled west to do onlyfans
>>539169988>they can't winand then when the war is over and Ukraine is still missing a bunch of it's land>yeah well they just barely wonpeople are faggots.
>>539172645What leads a grown ass man to worship another man unconditionally? Can you even comprehend he'd send you and your family to die in agony if it helped his egomania?
>>539173070>all ukrainians women are doing onlyfans and sucking black cocks!!!Seething zigger incel detected. No woman will touch you , ever, unless you pay double the price for a whore
>>539172575why are you using polish naming, algerian monkey?
>539173070vatnik propagandist on pol and other places were making connection in how succesful ukraine invasion was in early days to iraq one. Then they stopped and started shifting goalpost.
>>539169988Why did this Moldovan make this thread?
>>539172474>why could all these countries possibly be running from the russia as soon as they can? It's surely this retarded convoluted delusion i read from someone from the other side of the planet, and surely not because puccia SUCKS ASS
>>539172577We can tell you’re a draft dodger, little natofag
>>539173161You can seethe at me all you want, doesn’t change the fact that a generation of uke women fled west to become whores and are never going back to the ukraine
>>539173378nice one zhido british cocksleeve
>>539173021Couldn't he stay in power by building roads and hospitals instead?
>>539173272Why is your shithole running out of benzine 1600 days after starting a 2 weeks special military operashun?
>>539169988They've already won it and the trillion you spent propping up the hohols didn't manage change that lmao
>>539173525>no arguments>resorts to name calling because he knows I'm rightYou are a traitor to all the children who deserve a better future.
I think all the shills want this war to continue because they want as many Europeans dead as possible.
>>539173681zhid defends bongland. typical.
>>539173526Why would he if he can sieze all power, give businesses to his friends, jail the people who try to oppose him and divert attention on war and other shit?he's just tarded and the power has completely derailed his consciousness.
>>539174223>the power has completely derailed his consciousness.He has special, unique news segments made just for him. That's not a man, it doesn't have a soul.>>539173928Instead of growing actually prosperous, you are being genocided by your billionaire ruling class. Do you know anyone personally who's suffered for the tranny's ego?
>>539170124>>539170173Ukraine is also missing 50%+ of its population. And this means they're winning
>>539169988Genocide followed by jeet replacement. Also, Ukraine "aid" is easy money laundering. It goes right into (((private equity))) controlling everything via the stock market. It's why all these huge publicly traded corporations can push anti-White, anti-family, anti-freedom propaganda so hard and never fail; they are backed by limitless stolen goy dollars.Remember Putin outlawed Holocaust denial over a decade ago. He is just another ZOG puppet. Both "sides" of this are working for the same master.
>>539173378>why could all these countries possibly be running from the russia as soon as they can?they're not really running, are theyAs soon as they joined NATO, they immediately began using all possible NATO/EU mechanisms to destroy the relationships and trade between Russia and Germany.And they did this fully knowing that it would massively harm the EU economy.The Maidan of 2014 in Ukraine was the direct result of EaP project which was directly supported and funded promarily by Poland and Baltics.Poland is also the main supplier via land for the Ukrainian army, and Baltic politicians now serving in the EU institutions are the main pushers for a "strategic defeat of Russia".Consequences?If you exclude the 300-600 billion Euro the EU already lost just from giving Ukraine weapons and supporting the Ukrainian economy,The total losses for the EU economy from this war were close to 1 trillion Euro in 2023. (as calculated by Borrel, ex-EU official)By 2026, combining all lost jobs, lost industry, lost businesses, lost energy, and lost opportunities, as well as all subsidies and support of refugees, EU could be sitting at several trillions in losses for the EU economy.Did any EU citizen vote for this?Nope.
>>539169988Anytime sister.Why urine bombed itself for 8 years?
>>539169988I wonder if it causes physical pain to gypsies such as you that no amount of cope threads will ever undo this reality? It's worse now.
>>539172765>It's the 2022 invasion that might cost them even these gains.In approximately two weeks
>>539173811zats right
TZD, TKD, TND>>539173586>magyar please enoughtf did I do
>>539169988In the span of four years, Russia went from the second strongest military in the world, to the second strongest military in Ukraine.
>>539169988>So why did the Russia start a war they can't win?There's a difference between winning a war and winning the peace. Russia could have trounced Ukraine any time before 2019. So why did Russia wait so long? What changed?Since wars are an extension of politics, what even is the Russian victory condition? It's not simply the military defeat of Ukraine. It's much more than that. It's really about current allies, potential allies, economics, global power dynamics, currencies, trade, etc.If winning the war was the only thing Russia had to worry about, it would be easy. It would be easier still if Russia was willing to whore itself to China like Ukraine is whoring itself to America. But unlike Ukraine, Russia has actual geopolitical ambitions. Ukrainians only dream of handing their country to Blackrock, Monsanto, and Cargill for gibs.As for a Russian defeat, the west is pinning its hopes on a Russian revolution. Which is paradoxical because Westerners essentially have Schrodinger's Russia. They'll say that Russians always follow their leaders because they're mindless orcs, but also that Russians will totally overthrow their leaders like they've done multiple times in the past.Schrodinger's Russia is a constant theme in this war. During the 2023 counteroffensive, the same people who claimed Russians were brainless orcs going on meatwave attacks, were now saying that Russians won't even fight the Ukrainian advance because they have nothing to fight for. These western propagandists can never keep their stories straight, but the average Westerner is an absolute retard who lives only in the present, and never reflects on the past or thinks about the future.
>>539175923good post.But I also have a sneaking suspicion that we're not seeing the full picture here. Right before Russia launched its SMO, about 1 month prior: China and Russia signed a memorandum that stated (paraphrasing): "We will do everything it takes to dismantle US dominance in the world".I think the Ukraine war, Iran war, sanctions war, probably upcoming Taiwan war, energy crisis, etc. are part of the bigger play here.People who think that Russia, China, Iran are acting independently with primarily their own interests in mind, are the same people who think Ukraine is protecting the western civilisation.
>>539169988is the drones attacks on russia are really a problem, they will start blasting europe where they are produced
>>539176225You are correct except one thing. Russia, Iran, and China are absolutely acting independently insofar as all three have geopolitical ambitions of becoming their own power bloc. The same dynamic was true in WWII with Italy/Germany/Japan. The only thing that unites Russia, Iran, and China is the United States. If you remove America from the equation, they instantly become enemies again. Mussolini and Hitler hated each other, and even if the axis had won WWII, Italy and Germany would have immediately come into conflict. Germany originally supported Japan's enemy(China) before switching to Japan for geopolitical reasons.Many people call the China/Russia/Iran bloc the "Axis of upheaval". They are coming together only to overthrow the existing world order. What these wars are really about is America trying to cling on to global primacy, and especially dollar hegemony via control of the global oil market(petrodollar).
>>539169988>>539170173>>539170208>>539170267>>539170419>>539170605>>539171290>>539171533>>539171629>>539171695These hohol jews on VPNs are ruining pol with their LIES and crap.
>>539169988Brother nations love to murder each other. See Yugoslav wars.
>>539177110>You are correct except one thing. Russia, Iran, and China are absolutely acting independently insofar as all three have geopolitical ambitions of becoming their own power bloc. The same dynamic was true in WWII with Italy/Germany/Japan. The only thing that unites Russia, Iran, and China is the United States. If you remove America from the equation, they instantly become enemies again.this is highly doubtful, because there is a pretty bad habbit of many wannabe-political-analysts to view the world through past experiences, but they often exclude the vast majority of human history and only focus on most recent history to make conclusions.As a good example to this, count the amount of times you heard people, even actual people with influence or journalist history, saying that Russia's war in Ukraine "is already longer than WW1 or WW2"They latch onto this soundbite, because WW1 and WW2 "feel" like massive wars, but historically-speaking, they join the list of the most shortest wars ever recorded in human history. There were wars that lasted over 100 years, and most recently Afganistan and Iraq wars lasted over 10 and over 20 years.When you say that Russia, Iran, and China are acting in their own interest, then you're making the mistake of applying 19th or 20th century lenses to it. This cannot be done if we are to be serious, given as there is way too much interdependence today between neighbouring states, than there ever was in past centuries. Energy consumption (and dependence) is extremely high, technological dependence is extremely high, populations (comparatively to old times) are also extremely high. States are no longer operating as fully individualistic entities, they are forced into an organism.
>>539177784It's called "multipolarity". That's what unites the anti-American forces. Which in practical terms means spheres of influence. Something kind of like pic-related. The main problem for Iran is that Turkey also wants to be the Middle-East hegemon. The Saudis as well, although they're essentially US puppet states so they don't count.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv02AsNATAg&t=3249s
>>539169988HA HA HA! YOU ARE A ROMANIAN!!!You come from a third-world country where there is barely any electricity or technology. You probably live in a thatched hut, eating mud cakes, grilled bugs, and potato latkes every day with your bare brown hands!You probably don't even know what a shower is, and smell of animal manure. I imagine you toil in the fields all day, milking cows, shucking corn, and peeling potatoes. And I'd wager your obese headscarf-adorned babushka wife joins in too - at least, until it's time to cook the potato dumplings you have every day for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert over an open fire of cattle dung.I would not want to come anywhere near you unless you make great efforts to "civilize" and unlearn your uncouth disgusting third-world habits. The smell of goat manure, cigarettes, and diesel fuel is overbearing to even think about. I'll bet you don't even know who Mozart, Shakespeare, or da Vinci are, nor want to know, as you feel your folk knowledge based on cow paths and menstrual witchcraft would suffice.It's truly remarkable how even today, much of the world lacks reliable access to running water, modern medicine, women's suffrage, or dining utensils. I only hope that one day, you can successfully relocate to a civilized first-world country as a refugee so that your life can improve measurably, perhaps even the United States.If it'd make you feel better, might I offer a small donation of a penny or two to the World Bank?
Bump?
>>539174833Both Russian and Ukrainian men are now replaced by Indians. It's just part of the great replacement.