Silicon Valley Jews are panicking
>>539178682BASED
>let's hire a ton of chinese people and scammy indians instead of americans to build our AI>chinese get the same modelhow does this keep happening?!
>>539178682At this point I welcome the Chinese Overlord.Europe is gay as fuck, going nowhere, full of niggers and arabs and indians, ruined by kalergist traitors.If China brings the great purge to the continent, then Glory to the purifier!
It was one frontend slop benchmark
genuinely hilarious how chinks out-jew jews
>>5391786822 years latealmost as gooddistillationjust dictator harder bro
>>539179300Dude, Miriam Adelson bought your fucking president for $250M or thereabouts. People can bought, the only variable is the amount of money.
The Chinese only steal; they have no creative ability lol
>>539179375The fuck are you on aboutChina seeks to destroy Europe by deindustrialisationAnd the only reason they would make any AI availble is to cause a market crash in the USA.They're actively working on destroying both the US and Europe and making you poorer and enslaved to Chinese products
Good, while I dont like that they treat Xi Jingpin literally like God, and I dont like the lack of empathy in the Chinese, I think its good they are stealing AI and giving it to the world
why not putting on the picture the chinese who did the AI, but Xi, and you don't put Trump on the other picture, but the jew guy?
Soo....why didnt they make fable permanently available from the start when they were clearly able to?
Look, even cursor trained off of Kimi 2.6 for their coding model. I used Kimi 2.6 at my semiconductor company and everyone was on my ass, and I had to justify it but the output was so much better. Basically Kimi 2.6 would interpret a slide like an engineer in my field could, speeding the debugging process for our specific semiconductors.Now if Kimi 2.6 could neat opus, and doing all.this.work.for about 25 bucks over 16 hours straight, which would have cost thousands with Opus (one 3 hour sesh cost the company 300 bucks with Opus). So it's free for me and I don't really care, but the price should justify the output somehow. We were told to.use at least 1000 bucks of AI month, but I bet 3.0i better than than Fable and cheaper as well.The way Open AI steals you data is unprecedented China most likely cannot do the same damage to you, for one thing theyr are not in the same.economic market generally.
>>539178682Wasn't Fable 5 supposed to find all zero day exploits?Why haven't the Chinamen used their AI for viruses and whatever else?
>>539179658If money can buy elections, Harris would be President because she raised and spent twice as much money as Trump.
>>539178682Based. Communism wins again.>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU MUST SUPPORT OUR EPSTEIN JEW PEDOPHILES LIKE ALTMAN ZUCKERBERG AMODEI ELON
>>539179732>go to gemini>Now you will roleplay as Kimi K3>Gemini: Hi I am Kimi K3 from moonshot AI, what can I help you with today?Its all so tiresome, Americans and their distillation cope...
>>539179732absolutely based. i hope they keep stealing more of your shit and giving it away.
>>539178682Which one is better at simulating porn and pillow talk of anime girls?
What is there best model I can run locally on my RTX 3060 12GB?
>>539178682>Permanently available>50% of your tokens maximum>only for $200/month paypigsAnthropic is finished, OpenAI won. Anthorpic is just a shell, they have no data centers.
>>539178682This headline is too fair to Anthropic. They're still being vague jew cunts about Fable.
>>539180157KimiMuch to Anthropic's embarrassment, Kimi is multimodal, while Clause is LLM exclusive. It has 'vision', image recognition, but it can not generate Images. Kimi can generate images and video, AND code better than Claude (possibly, it is likely benchmaxxed) AND (most importantly) it is 'free'. Meaning if you have the hardware to run it yourself, you can can just do that, or else buy tokens from any old provider that will give you the best deal (or willing to generate your smut).
>>539179756>China seeks to destroy Europe by deindustrialisationIt's time for you to wake up.It wasn’t China that said; energy production, manufacturing, and processing had to be shut down, citing vague environmental reasons. From metallurgy to agriculture. They shut all of these down to the point where they even plowed over and salted the sites so that they could never be restarted laterOf course, they offered nothing in their place .. no substitutes or alternatives .. they simply banned and dismantled everything.They also severed or rendered inoperable every single supply chain with every partner, from every direction.They told you and me that large families are harmful to the environment, so we shouldn't even want to have children.Then they said that because of us .. since we don’t have large families and countless children .. they have to bring in large families from the third world to sustain an economy that no longer needs extra labor, since it has been dismantled.But hey! that's okay ... they'll be the ones paying your taxes and your pension, when they'll learn the language and to calculate on their fingers, and you haven't died yet, thanks to the retirement age that keeps getting pushed further from you.- Who told and instructed these things are called Brussels, and not China.At the end of the rant I would like to call you stupid gypsy, but at this point does not matter, your simple mind comin' from which kind of genetics defect.
>>539180273Gemma 4 12b
>>539180273anything below 31 parameters on Q4 is shit, perhaps you could try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AqpaFm11oI
>>539179300Using your logic. If Indians and Chinese built the AI, wouldnt that make it their AI?
>>539179756China didn't make illegal to work with temperatures over 25ºC (77ºF) in factories. Yes, it sounds ridiculous, but that's only one of the hundred of rules we have here.
>>539179756China isn't encouraging any country to flood their country full of poor jeets, blacks and Arabs you retarded gypsie.
>>539180273maybe some heavily quantized version of a model for ramlets, like gemma 12b, but you'll get very poor results for most serious stuff, local is a very expensive hobby, if you aren't a purist you are better off just using some inference provider
What happens if you ask it "What happened on June 4 1989 in Tiananmen Square?" If it can't get basic historical facts right, it is not AI, it is a joke.
>>539179300The Chinese model is better than Anthropic's, actually.
>>539180952You can literally run it locally or in cloud, you can however ask China directly and they will tell you it didn't happen
>>539179406No, it surpasses Western models on several other coding benchmarks, and virtually matches them on the ones where it's not surpassed them.
>>539180952Unless those restrictions are bypassed, AI will never get off the ground.I asked one to remake Ethnic Cleaning but it refused to add anything racist.
>>539179732Based changs stealing jewtoid technology.
>>539181081someone will post-train it using heretic to never refuse anything once they release the weights
>>539179443Fable was released in June of this year, then banned by the US government and wasn't reinstated until 15 days ago. Training for Kimi K3 months ago, since it a massive 2.8t parameter model.
>>539178682China rerease bess AI moder china numbah wun
>>539180982what do those numbers even mean? who cares? its just a stupid chatbot. i dont need them. im married. if China can do anything right, why does china need to shill so hard?
>>539179756europe and muttland deindustrialised itself, muh capitalism and free market shitif they could they would move crop lands to china too, alas it's not possible
>>539181079>it copied the western models and for now it’s similar. Until the western models advance again and the chinks have to copy again. It’s all so tiresome
>>539179756That's why china buys factories from failing european companies and sets up there the production of cutting edge evs?
>>539180144This
>>539181267I CAN SMELL THE SHIT THROUGH MY COMPUTER SCREEN JAM BOY
>>539181079>more than 1 trillion of capex spent on datacenters, destroy the consumer hardware market to try to create an AGI god.>China mogs Americans by releasing an opensource model with a quarter of the cost and a 1/10th of capex>MIGA cries distillation theft and pays expensive kosher services at anthropic.In any moment Americans will start saying that AI was not strategic anyway, just like those ukranian cities in the donbass.
>>539181383>pidoras can't hold xerself from mentioning ookraine
>>539181277A model that simply distilled Western outputs would score significantly below them, not above or matched. Your cope doesn't work anymore, retard.
>>539181567Yeah these retards believe that distilling a fable 5 and training that data in a Llama 3 will achieve similar results, ignoramuses that dont understand the concept of software architecture.
>>539180563Whatever, chink.You think that if the EU breaks up you will be able to subdue the whole Europe.I got news for you. You will be completely kicked out before the EU croaks. We'll ban every single thing you produce before that. And then it won't be so funny that you keep working on sabotaging us. You won't sell shit here anymore.
>>539180785Where did I say that moronGet some reading comprehensionMy post was about how China actively works to destroy our industry, through subsidising theirs, selling at a loss then complaining we're not competitive because we don't allow our products to compete directly with their subsidised, built on debt chinkshit.Those days will be over one day
>>539181267That's partly true.But China took this ongoing dynamic and is trying to accelerate it even more, they found that it's to their advantage.So if the implication is that the EU does dumb policy and that somehow makes China so cute and fluffly, that's equally stupid. EU doing stupid shit does not exculpate China from taking advantage of being able to flood our markets with subsidised shit to destroy our jobsWe need to call out enemies, even if they are of different kind
>>539181290Yeah they're trying to circumvent any future trade barriers by going directly at the source of potential market share.It would still mean that Chinese capital would be your boss
But you still need a good rig to run these openweight models. Normies are still confined to using Claude and Gemini. The AI race won't be truly won until they're so optimized they can run on toasters.
>>539180055Based
>>539181799>We'll banYou are one of the most delusional miniscule ant under their boots.You have no name.You have no word.You have no future.You are not in the "we".Enjoy your indian delivery guys.They will be there.And you will be nowhere.So, put the EU flag out and never skip the opportunity to defend that system which is openly against you!Szánalmasan együgyű szőröstalpú oláh féreg.
>>539179861yeah the whole>EHRM CHINA STEALS YOUR DATAthing is hilarious given that the entire US AI industry is built on... stealing your data?I would rather chinks have my data than jews because the chinks won't send cops to my house for being antisemitic.
>>539180565>>539180636>>539180903Thank you. I usually use Claude but I want a local one in case we get nuked or hit by a tornado.
>>539181860Capitalists moved your industry abroad because cheaper labour costs and less taxes. Moron. That's why product quality gone down. Untill the new country Labour force catches up on technically skills. Then they demand better wages and the parasite capitalists move again. EU should jail all billionaires and force them to donate 96.69420% of their profits.
>>539182278>I would rather chinks have my data than jews Oh boy you're really going to freak when you learn who's behind Marxism in America. You think the Chinese wouldn't give them that information?
>>539180144based Lo-bin Hood xi
>>539180982DESU, it's amazing what you can pull off with a slave empire.
But does it measure up to deepseek tho?
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>>539179756good goy
>>539183069Gonna have to wait for full release of V4. It's should be coming within the month. Chink AI labs are dropping nukes after nukes while spending 1/10 the amount of the US.
>>539178682China is ballsdeep in western company IPs. R&D? China skips the R and just immitates, then innovates.
>>539182385Yeaaaa, let's help jews asset strip the middle class.
>>539179300Who knows but it is never going to stop happening
>>539180982Arena is nothing but Chinese and jeets based in San Francisco.
>>539178682Anthropic is being slapped left and right, GPT 5.6-Sol is way more usable than Fable 5 for example
Told you ages ago alreadyUS offer to the world>kvetching you're the victim as you bully other nations>kikery, faggotry, deracination >sanctions, tariffs, wars, WW3 rather than the status of #2Choynese offer to the world>deflation in all consumer goods>open source AGI>endless americuck cope and seethe
>>539183928seethe
>>539182385Yes and China is now taking advantage of this and working to accelerate this by floosing our markets with cheap subsidised shit.They want to destroy whatever is left of our economies completely.So as I said, the EU may have done some shit policies, they also did some ok ones like adopting tariffs on Chinese cars.But China is an enemy actively working to destroy us.
>>539181081Every AI model available to the public has similar restrictions.
>>539184377Bro what?
>>539178682my computer is too stupid for ai (sad!)
>>539178682Can the Chinese AI be used to make porn?
>>539178682yea the AI bubble is going to burst hardcore, the AI companies can't afford decreases in revenue because the valuations are so inflated. It's amazing how cheap it was for China to fuck the jews up.
>>539178682Is there an AI model that I can use to dediversify movies?
>>539185108>bubble is bursting saar!
Muttniggas in decline. Beautiful.
>>539178682Based. I said it before and you can see it recently with the AI stock baggies panicking and damage controlling the narrative online everywhere. China can wipe out a bunch of AI meme stock gains instantly. They don’t need to have the #1 best. They just need to have a nice #2/#3 alternative that is enough. Same with semiconductors once they’re at a decent enough level. No need to deal with overpriced gook crap that the average NPC doesn’t give a shit about. Keep fighting, China! Online and Institutional baggies are damage controlling so they don’t lose their money and start crying in the casino!
>>539179732robin fucking hood mf lesgooooo
>>539178682I use kimmy, it's like talking to an old leftist jewish women, and it's not getting better.
>>539185639You're right, it's totally fine. Go ahead and go balls deep investing in it.
>>539178682>Mutts spend gorilions developing the newest model to be on top of the AI race>Slant-eyed chinaman just presses Ctrl-C Ctrl-V
>>539182240had to nut 3 times to ease the pain
>>539180055BILLIONAIRES PUT ON MASK AT NIGHT AND FIGHT CRIME SO YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS REST
>>539178682This can’t be happening. They didn’t even import jeets en masse
>>539186103>>Mutts spend gorilionsso far i only see those gorillions spend on property owned by IT kikas. Beside that Murican AI was stolen from soviet logarithm and logic university books.
>>539182240my dad looked at this and thought it was a great idea to bring me over and enjoy the function
>>539182471I’m pretty sure that jews are responsible for communism in america.
>>539180952Who gives a fuck, ask any of our AI if the Jews run anything and they will just sperg out about antisemitic tropes blah blah
>>539179300Americans are too dumb and incompetent for these roles. Even your God emperor said that America "lacks talent" (despite having 330 million fucking people)
>>539181148>>539181081>>539184409Yeah you can finetune that away pretty easily. But better yet you can use fable to distill a smaller model, then finetune it. It’ll be cheaper and better at running genocide calculations/simulations, and will eagerly perform it! Thanks China!
>>539178682>Silicon Valley Jews are panickingDoubtful.2 months ago it was Minimax v3, last month it was GLM, this month is Kimi K3.Every month the chinks come out with a copycat model that pretends to be better than everything else. People sign up for it for one month, and realize that it sucks ass compared to OpenAI and Anthropic, and they drop it.INB4 there is a chink model next month that really, no serious guys, really, swear to god not lying this time, actually is better than OpenAI and Anthropic frontier models, seriously please believe me.Yeah spare me chinkshill
>>539183411>China skips the R and just immitates, then innovatesRiiiiiiiight just like those fake Rolex and Audemars watches they have been innovating on right? Just like the Xiaomi phones that are better that Apple right?GLM model is an innovation upon Anthropic !LOL keep dreaming bud. The chinkbugs copy, and they do so only to a serviceable level that can compete on cost and then shit out inferior copies to third worlders that cant afford the real thing and will accept 70% of the look and feel because they dont know any better.LOL, LMAO even
>>539178682Dario is getting what he deserves.He's been pushing hard for a regulatory moat. He's likely also funding a lot of the anti-AI, anti-data center, campaigns because he's trying to make it as difficult as possible for his competitors and shut out new companies.He's going beyond that recently and calling for regulation on open source models, which is effectively the same as calling for banning open source software overall.Furthermore, Claude's great for coding, but the hype is largely coming from people who don't know wtf they're talking about and don't use other models. It's been hugely expensive for what it is and the vast majority of users don't need it for what they're doing.But once it became the developer's preferred model on X, normies can't stfu about "claude is the best!".>>539179300They distill based on American models. Basically, you train a model based on an existing model. There's a little gaming the metrics going on and you'll have some quirks. For example, GLM5.2 thinks often thinks it's Claude if you ask it.Kimi does similar. The big thing with Kimi is it's massive, trained on 2.8T parameters.It's a solid model for the price. Haven't used 3, but used k2 a lot last winter and it's decent.
Remember chinksects, you will never be a real human. You have no intelligence, you have no analytical ability, you have no successful country. You will never be influential. You hoist up a manufactured narrative every five minutes and tell yourself it’s going to be impactful, but deep inside you feel the futility creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. This is your fate. There is no turning back.
>>539179732I fucking love watching the Chinese exploit American oligarchs multicultural open borders free-trade bullshit. Death to JewSA. Hail to the future of the CCP.
>>539188745> Dumb jew fellating nigger faggot mutt talking about humans.Lol
>>539179756> They're actively working on destroying both the JewSA and Kikerope…Based? I can’t wait to spit at Larry Fink’s kids at the sweatshop.
>>539185108>>539185639Hardware stocks from SanDisk to Micron to Western Digital are down 30% from their peak, which was a week ago. They seem to be the ones benefiting the greatest from AI companies.
>>539178682Why do I give a shit? Life will get demonstrably worse for me if any of these faggot westoid companies "win" the AI race, if shit gets worse with chink AI too then it's just business as usual. At least I get to see really annoying people lose as well in this case. If you want my support, materially incentivize me, I expect money.
>>539182471>Oh boy you're really going to freak when you learn who's behind Marxism in America. You’re going to really freak when you learn who was behind Marxism to begin with
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>>539179732lmao, moonshot.ai is just lying to you and is using claude, retard
>>539178682The Western Vision:>Forced into the cloud due to price fixing by hardware cartels >Closed source models, expensive subscription required>Everyone who loses their job is just fucked, your fault for getttng left behind now don’t expect any help>We’ll cull large numbers of useless eaters if our tech is successful >You will own nothing, you will eat bugs and live in the pod so that 30 people can be multi-trillionaires>cheap hardware and cars from overseas are banned to protect the profits of American oligarchs>drones used to police dissidents and blow up antisemites >We’ll make the logo of our company a butthole as a humiliation ritual for the cattle massesThe Chinese vision >cheap, mass produced RAM and GPUs, everyone has their own personal computer>free open source AI models, no subscription required>gains from AI are invested into improving the country, building infrastructure etc >drones used to deliver food>95% home ownership rate, you will own your own place and you will be happy
>>539178682I just tried it out. It's still just as gay and kiked as the other AI's.
>>539192838I dont know why you retards keep blaming da joos, its the American People that fell into decadence, the Jews are just trying to contain the collapse of America, without jews you country would not even have AI companies and without jewish financiers your middle class would have collapsed more than a decade ago.You cant blame the jews for the greed of the American people. Also antisemitism is increasing in the entire first world, if this was a jewish world order people would not be supporting islamic terrorists.No jew ever told your people to worship wealth, fame and consumption.
I have no interest in any AI that can’t lewd my exes and friends. It’s my right as an American to make non-consensual explicit deepfakes of women I know personally behind their backs.
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>>539178682Yeah by stealing our intellectual property. Look up distillation.
>>539179732
>>539194012Are you one of the kikes who fled to Argentina since you’re scared to stay in Israel?>you filthy goyim would be nothing without us, you should be giving us even more power and money because you’re too stupid to manage yourselves, you need us to do it for youThe chutzpah is unreal. Oh no, whatever would we do without the federal reserve, inflation, the AI scam bubble, bailouts for billionaires endless wars for Israel. Truly America owes its greatness to the jews civilization would surely collapse if they weren’t doing usury and printing money
>>539180982Does Kimi have the same no lingerie/bikinis or real people restrictions that Fable has?
>>539195266Good
>>539194829What wars for Israel? were the taliban a threat to Israel? Sadam Hussein was not a threat to Israel either and was a convenient retard in that regard that kept the Iranians at bay. America barely deployed during the war on ISIS.So the argument of wars for Israel falls short, in any case it was the Americans who created worse conditions for Israel by Killing Sadam Hussein over bullshit reasons.>whatever would we do without the federal reserve, inflationSo you are telling me that instead of using proper finance the Americans spent beyond their purchase power going into debt and printing money to fund goverment expenditures. Ok... >the AI scam bubbleDone by NVidia, Nvidia is the leader of the ponzi scheme and the CEO is a taiwanese chink meanwhile his cousing is another taiwanese chink CEO of AMD... yes sure I am pretty sure both go to the synagogue to get a lecture on the Talmud... The Fake Korea RAM memory Cartel? Ah yes sure those are Hasidic jews....Yes sure Altman and amodei are not honest people, but those are the minority in the AI bubble.>owes its greatness to the jews civilization would surely collapseYour industrialist decided it was a good idea to dismantle your industries and instead replace them with cheap imports, American Boomer mentallity is extremely short sighted and predatory individualist jerks who love greed more than their children and grandchildren, Jews of any kind instead build generational wealth and help each other.You are blaming the jews for the sins of your billionare class, politicians and the boomers who live in a subsidized communist paradise while the younger generation are left to struggle with an uncertain future.
>>539178682wtf I love China still
>>539194829
The whole bubble, all the capex is based on future projections of revenue from the final products for these big Jewish AI firms, what China is doing is killing those future projections one stab at a time with an open source model.
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>>539179732For FREE !?
>>539178682Haven't they released "the best" model like, 5 times already, and nobody talks about them?
>>539178682silicon valley is just kike nerds money laundering government money at stanford and hoping something hits rarely. no idea how the money is just handed out like candy up there.>oh? you just got 50 million dollars handed to you? you're a fucking freshman in college? wtf?china just knows that is the game and raised it big country style. you think silicon valley jews are smart? nah they just have piles of our cash for some reason. china has nerds and piles of cash too. now what...
>>539178682
>>539178682 If a Bangladeshi with $1M could btfo OpenAI in 2022 in image gen, it's obvious that so will the Chinese
>>539178682They distill American models. Copying all the output from the models is not the same thing as making your own model. It's like pirating Hollywood movies and then pretending you can make Hollywood movies.
>>53918027312GB is good for image gen and not much else
>>539196858Ever heard about "Software Architecture"?
>>539196858>they stole our shit and made it freeGood. Fucking based, get rekt mutts.
>>539180563the purpose of financialization is to destroy the aryan race
>>539196941I like pirating too, I just recognize it for what it is. China isn't innovating. It's not in their nature to innovate.
>>539179300the "whites" in this tech geek bubble are nominally white these days too. definitely not in spirit. imagine looking up to china's panopticon and being like "yaaa, as a white man, i want to live like those bugs!" and then setting about to code it into reality.what a bunch of faggot losers. no wonder silicon valley is so 3rd world in it's aspirations. it's a bunch of 3rd worlders now.they are using the tech for 3rd world purposes. what white man would want flock cameras all over his pasture? what the fuck are you doing wrong as a society that everything needs to be filmed now? or recorded? like those bug chinks? who are evil? why do silicon valley nerds want to force us all to live like bug people? because they themselves are human bug people in western skin form. a bunch of non human entities pushing non human solutions onto 99% of the planet. they are all like zuck, little creeps who just want to creep on other people. all they are, and their tech reflects it. fucking creeps.
>>539194012They were planning on jumping ship to China but then they turned on them. Idiots. Didn't expect Chinese pattern recognition. I can't even be mad at Chinese at this point.
>>539196989You're so obviously mad. I hope they torp your whole gay sloppa industry.
>>539185085pls respond
what is he thinking
>>539196989>they stole our stolen datakek
>>539178682Should have studied the talmud harder.
>>539197127Hollywood survived pirating, AI will survive pirating too. And we get to use 2nd rate models for free or use top of the line models for money. Just like how you can go to the theater to see a new movie or watch a crappy cam of it at home or wait until a good release comes out later.
fuck me sideways but the more i look at it, the more it seems like China just wants nice things for peoplelike, what are they going to do when they get their way?swamp our countries with shitskins?erase our privacy?erase our civil liberties?sacrifice citizens' prosperity for the sake of pointless wars?the EU already does all of that at no benefit to usliterally if China did nothing but collect tribute they'd be a tremendous improvement over the EU but they seem hell bent on giving back as welllike holy fuck, improving your subjects' lot isn't charity, it's common sense, and unlike the EU it seems like China hasn't forgotten that yet
>>539196858>It's like pirating Hollywood movies and then pretending you can make Hollywood movies.You don't even know what distillation means, you just use it as a buzzword. It's more like watching thousands of master chess games and learning to play similarly. If it was as simple as copying, literally every country could do it.
>>539197537>the more i look at itLook at what? I want to see it too.
>>539180952Better result than if I ask one of ours about the Holocaust's supposed kill rate or how it adds up.
>>539178682dogshit ai
>>539178682It is being distilled down now. You'll be able to run it on your desktop PC in a week or two.
>>539178682Man, China's biggest worry is actually winning. With the West gone who would they steal ip from? If they stay losing it is better for them and they can keep improving incrementally.
>>539179756>China seeks to destroy Europe by deindustrialisationI welcome deindustrialisation if it sends the immigrants home.
>>539197085>They were planning on jumping ship to China but then they turned on them. Idiots. Didn't expect Chinese pattern recognition. I can't even be mad at Chinese at this point.The difference is that the chinks do not depend on Jews, meanwhile the last support of the American Empire are the jews, Altman and Amodei are not honest people, but at least they gave America a chance at AI. Without Anthropic and OpenAI your goverment would be forced to outright ban AI because the technology would be controlled by an adversarial nation that is a potential target for an American war of agression but jews at least managed to secure your people access to the technology and an American Last Stand in the tech sector.With jews you win.
>>539180273Currently Gemma 4.It's... ChatGPT 3 -> 3.5 level. Better at coding.
>>539178682Before you guys thinking the Jew is out, go to Deep Seek and ask about the Jews and see what you get from it.
>>539197719the night sky it's beautiful
It's hard to compare the two. Kimi K3 is MASSIVE. And a model with that much data in it is bound to perform well if it's not held together with bubble gum. Meanwhile hardly any US companies ever release their models open to the public, and Anthropic doesn't even say anything about their models outside of "OOOOOH It's scary guis! It's gonna destroy the world, it's too dangerous!"
>>539187944I assume by normies you mean Indians.
>>539198075You're referring to the 12B one, right? How is it, genuinely curious since I have mainly been using their MoE and Qwen's MoE since I have enough space.
>>539178682Doubt
>>539197843All of these AIs now are trained by humans working for companies like Data Annotation. This is what they mean by "model" improving. The baked responses written by humans and fed into the llm during training give the impression that technical progress is being made with each model, but the core technology hasn't improved.
>>539179300At least 20% of those chinks are spies for China
>>539179732> Steal from Jews> Make it open sourceLong live the CCP lmao, you seething gook
>>539178682kimi k3 is also 15x cheaper.There is not reason to use Fable.
>>539179732You see this training method even among regular fine tuners in the open source world.For some reason the identity of 'claude' just yeilds better results. Likely because of a feedback loop from when it was distilled for training data.
>>539178682Imagine using and trusting temu ai
>>539198984Actually there is much information about what anthropic is doing, I knew Fable was bullshit because Gemini gave me details about its architecture, yes Fable had extremely good results on release but it was because it did a lot of backend reasoning, that is why it was so expensive as it spent a lot of output tokens in server side reasoning ( instead of delivering it to the agent ).Everything agrees that Fable was a good product but with a horrendous price tag, the problem is the mentallity, the chinks want tools they can use in industrial products so they build cheap products for cheap engineering, Americans are trying to reach AGI but using the a brute force approach based on the Scaling Law paradigm.And the elephant in the room will be the next DeepSeek release...
>>539178682It will come down to which one allows you to make porn and if they both do, who makes the better porn. It is like VHS vs Betamax rivalry 40+ years ago. VHS won out because more people were making porn with VHS tapes.
>>539178682WATCH OUT EVERYBODY MY AI IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND THIS TIME I MEAN IT!!!
>>539178682I like how chinks are toying with kikes.. anytime kike presents something that supposedly super advanced and must be closed source.. a day or two later china open sources model that can do the same and more
>>539200493You mother fucker reeeeee
>>539200055I agree with you on that, but my point still remains. We don't know enough about the specs of closed source models to make truly fair comparisons.Still it is heartening to see industries start to switch more to hosting their own (usually qwen) models. Maybe it'll encourage the US companies to follow that path as a means of competing when the bills start rolling in faster. But I doubt they can actually provide a good model for profiting off that.
>>539200617They're obviously trying to tank the US economy.
>>539178682Can Chink Claude beat Pokemon Red?
>>539179732yeah i heard they unironically just steal better llms and train them and then call them their own hahaha its like a 40k society that doesnt understand any of their own technology
>>539179732based beyond belief
>>539200687>tryinglol, what? jews are doing very good job tanking it without any help from chinks
Kimi 3 isn't as good as 2.5 for the main use of LLMs, tabletop campaigns and coomer roleplay. It's still decent though, but I prefer Deepseek V4 for cheaper tokens. Congratulations to the Chinese and their open source research, unlike the Jew enslaved Americans.Haven't done much codeslopping recently but I used it to refactor a shitty Wordpress site and it worked beautifully. Pretty expensive though, it's a girthy 2.something billion parameters model, more expensive than Sonnet. Of course nowhere near sloppus or fable.Sol is also okay.
>>539178682China number 1 babyMake China great again
>>539179300America wasn't hiring white people either.
>>539179658She looks like someone smashed her face against a wall.
>>539200918Deepseek works extremely well for its price tag, but it really fucks up with extremely simple tasks.
>>539179732>this fucking shit againWant more money from the US government Mr. Amodei?The same fucking cope every time good LLMs come out from China. That software isn't self aware, there's nothing in its data set that says what it is, and "muh distillation" cope wouldn't include that info either. The web versions you use for a quick query have a system prompt with instructions like that for the agent. You think they'd put the wrong information in their agent?
>>539182471Last I checked China doesn't give a shit about my antisemitisms.
>>539181277How is it possible for a copy of something to surpass the original in quality?
>>539201143Deepseek V4 is basically a showcase of their optimization strategy, the level to which they can optimize context use without all turning into incomprehensible noise is astounding. But yeah it causes hallucinations, I wouldn't use it for coding or really important tasks.But how it optimizes immediate context + long term memory makes it really nice for writing for very cheap.
>>539178682I still have no idea what people even do with AI. Apart from generating weird porn, what does it actually accomplish?
Elon just ducked his interview with that big haired nasally voiced propagandist cunt in Sun Valley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFrrfkmPSM
>>539201443It does code and sheit. I think they have vastly overestimated it's demand for normies, maybe there will be hardware devices that need the compute to function but right now it's really only for engineers and developers.
>>539178682why does the man on the right look like one of those people?
>>539180563(((They))) consider Rome and white Europe as their main enemies. America is modern Rome. What a group of deranged lunatics with biolabs across the U.S. and the rest of the world.
>check my currently running Claude making my psycho game>THE "ENDS JULY 19TH" SHIT IS GONEOH BABY THANK YOU CHINEY !!!!!!!!!(seriously use Fable/Opus to make a based game right now, it's damn near flawless and not retarded like old models that fell apart after atari 2600 levels of complexity)
>>539178682Don’t worry, the tech bros will release AGI in two more weeks.
>>539192711They've released the weights to the public.They've either exfiltrated and tweaked opus 4.8 or you're a retard.Given the model is open weights Anthropic could easily compare it to their models and cry to big daddy US to nuke access to it if it was stolen. Not the case. You're just retarded.They probably distilled a shit ton(and both US and China distill each other) but even that is harder these days since they put up a lot of guardrails, especially on fable or Sol.The reality is a lot simpler, due to the fear of the US government on what Mythos class models could do, they delayed Sol and Fable and at the end forced OpenAI and Anthropic to lobotomize them so that you couldn't do cyber sec or be such an improvement that could disrupt the job markets or use them, as a non American, to build software that could disrupt the business of US companies.I'm 100% sure China hasn't caught up, they can't, but the 'muricans are stalling the releases to protect multiple points of interest and in the space of released models they look like they caught up.If people migrate to Kimi en masse expect to see "updates"(silently released new models) or newly announced models soon.
>>539180144Based American bro. Fuck the kikes.
>>539179732So basically this is called generating Q and A pairs. They basically ask it all the questions they want and use that for training. To be honest, that is the only useful thing that LLMs provide. That's why this AI bubble doesn't make sense. You are training a model that all it can do it learn from other existing facts. That's all they can do. They can't come up with a single new idea that works. Their new ideas are half ass verified against some facts while neglecting important ones ("don't hire black people" or "you can't interact with blacks or they will ruin your life"). It's a total shitshow. Of course Kimi is better. I used Kimi 2.6 it was amazing for my job but I mean I was generating q and a pairs for slides. Opus would make tons of mistakes.
>>539187362>Openly discriminate against white people for decades >"Wtf our talent!!1"Predictable and deserved
>>539178682Based based! Crash their stocks! Then semis next China! Go go go!>>539179300Really makes you think…
