Is there anything after you die, im scared bros
>>539197108>afraid of peaceful blissful nothingness
Bitch niggas get scaredReal niggas goon
Was there anything before you were born?
>>539197108even if you pee on the crucifix and swear your soul to Satan, when you die it's just lights out.. no dreams.. no feeling. Gone, gone.. and gone
>>539197108Maybe. Maybe not. There is plenty to learn. If I told you everything I learnt then you would know half of nothing. But you must self teach or you will never understand
>>539197108Try dmt
Don't go into the light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGP0JNhDgCU
>>539197108it's gonna be alright
>>539197108Yes. The same shit all again, but in another time and space.Nature will never carry you to God but it will never also let you fall.
>>539197255>he doesn't endure a billion years of dejav vu with each passing microsecondngmi
>>539197108You dont die you just get atomically rearranged. Who knows you might rearrange into a living thing again
No one can really tell you, NDE's are interesting but they are the ones that come backI would be very surprised if there was nothing after, as this existence is so strange. It seems more unlikely that it appears from nowhere and goes nowhere.
We will always be frens
>>539197487based Boltzmann brain knower and Nietzsche enternal reocurrer
>>539197108
>>539197108Yes.Choose wisely.
>>539197108Why? You want more of what ever the hell this wretched reality is?
>>539197108>Is there anything after you diethankfully, noimagine the opposite being true jesus fucking christ the horror
>>539197535>I would be very surprised if there was nothing afterWhy? There was literally nothing before too.
Theres this cryogenic method called vitrification.You don't have to die you only need ~200000$See AIs explanation:https://chatgpt.com/share/6a5c011b-7eec-83eb-a69d-b0bec3d8db03
>>539197577I choose charmander.
>>539197108Ask Jesus. Believe and receive. You'll Eben see your pets ahain :D
>>539197675even if I ate them?
>>539197642I choose squirtle.
>>539197675>You'll Eben see your pets ahain :Dwill I see my doggo when he was a cute little puppy when I first got him or will I see him as the cancer ridden 12 year old mangy old wreck that he was on his last dayimportant question, pls answer
>>5391971081 Corinthians 2:99 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
>>539197108Don't be scared. You can't stop it. And when it happens it happens. Either it's over or something beyond. Don't worry about shit ahead of time. Either it's not as bad and you worried for nothing, or it's super bad and you will suffer twice. Just live anon.
>>539197108Epstein awaits you in afterlife>>539197610When you meet Jesus ask Him why Epstein pedo clients rule the world and get away with raping children to death.Unpunished by the law
>>539197108There is no such thing as death. This story, the one where you believe you are conscious, is not baseline reality. We are working on a problem. This reality is part of the solution.
>>539197968this is how cults manipulate you into committing suicide btw.
>>539197108no, it's like fainting
>>539198120thisif you ever lost consciousness it's like that, but forever
>>539197642Bitch ass nigga>>539197720Real niggas choose Squirtle.
>>539197552I had never actually heard the Boltzmann brain theory but it seems pretty interesting thanks for putting me on fren
>>539198090Opposite in fact. We are playing this game for a reason.Knowing what's happening behind the scenes doesn't change the fact that we have to continue playing.
>>539197108No, no need to worry.The ego is the same as your other senses, touch, smell, taste, sight - a perception, except the perception of yourself.You do not perceive anything when you are dead, so you can't even speak of "stopping to exist".
>>539197108there is. But only for about an hour or 2. They have concluded that brain cells take 4-6 hours to finally die which means there is brief but weird glimpses of consciousness. And if your nerves are still in tact they will fire randomly. Also your regular cells will experience something called "cell death" 1-2 hours after you die. They all start dying individually due to lack of oxygen. Apparently they explode ( or implode? ). Also there was a british man who studied what happened to men who were beheaded in the early 19th century. He would study their face and eyes after the head went into the basket. And he documented that he believed that the "head" could still see him and was actually feeling real pain but couldn't express it in any meaningful way. He was just reading the eyes.
>>539198492more like four minutesthen your brain cells die and they can't randomly fire or do anything anymorebody organs, yeah, they take a longer while to shutdown without oxygen but the brain is delicate and goes out first and fast
>>539198492The brain doesn't generate consciousness, it's a "host" interface for it.
>>539198634>the old antenna bullshitwhy are you boomer retards still around?
I never asked to be spawned into the SLOP universe. Fucking energy vampires, every living thing is attempting to consume, while alive, every other living thing to steal their energy. Why not just code the stars to provide enough energy when you were building this slop to begin with. Fucking amateur hour in this verse. Just teleport me out of this shit universe into the good universe bro. Get me the fuck out of this greedy slaver universe bro. WTF did I do to deserve this punishment hell?
>>539197108We don't really know. That is the hard problem of consciousness.
>>539197108some fucking peace and quiet for a change.
>>539198629>>539198634cell death takes several hours. I'm not saying "consciousness" occurs for several hours. Any meaningful consciousness probably only lasts a minute or 2. But the cells are definitely still alive. Which is why even though someone isn't conscious their is still something happening. The thing that enlightened me on all of this is observing a chicken with its head cut off.
Your mind goes to rest and your flesh returns to the universe, leaving quantum information.
>>539197108Yes consiousness is indeed infinate, i have experienced it.
>>539198977>chicken with its head cut off.this is because chickens are shit-for-brains and most of what they do is controlled by the stem, not the actual brain
>>539199063Tell us about it then, how did you experience it?
>>539197108There's nothing right now, reality is fake and gay.
>>539197552Fun theoryThis brain & possibly even fading consciousness appearing is more probable than our world existing
>>539199099he got high and felt something
>>539197108Life doesnt begin until after death dont worry.
>>539197108Since we're in a simulation, no. There's nothing
>>539197108i don't want to leave the party either anon. life is too interesting. I don't want to become unthinking atoms again like I was for 13.8 billion years
>>539198492>>539198634Neither of this is quite right.See that image you see, with your eyes?>yesOdds are you don't have a choice.Your "self" is another such thing you see. It is not "generated", much like what you see is not generated, but merely perceived, perceiving something that is already there.>and then you stop perceiving things because your body ceased to functionThat happens quite easily and quickly. Something like NDE's are akin to dreams and happen only while your body is still nominally alive, for a few minutes at best.Maintaining the required coordination in your nervous system requires a lot of energy, and again, it's like senses:>do you see or hear anything when you are dead?Briefly, at best, and it's exactly the same with your identity. You cannot perceive it (or anything else) when fully unconscious.In effect this means you already "die" all the time, or close to it, during some phases of sleep. It doesn't shut down all perception totally, but reduces them to a minimum, standby mode of sorts. When you regain consciousness you simply begin to perceive again - which you may have noticed sometimes takes a moment, to regain full awareness.>and the thing you perceive is still more or less the sameThat's where your odentity comes from. Go look at advanced Alzheimer's patients. Their previous self is fucking gone because their brain has rotted.>they perceive only a confused husk that they have becomeIt''s not difficult to see the consequences of severe brain damage in people who happen to "survive" it for some time.>they're not the same self anymore
>>539199070true but it shows how the underlying system works. While humans don't "run around like a chicken with its head cut off" there is still activity in the stem. Because the cells are still alive. And the nerves are still firing. Actually if you watch someone die IRL they often twitch for several minutes after a brain injury. It kinda fucked me up when I saw it. They don't really show that shit in movies. When you see it IRL its fuckin brutal and PTSD causing shit.
>>539197108nope, nothing happens after you die. it is scary. im sorry for you anon. i hope you live a long life.
Think of a counsciousness as of seeds, they would need soil, water etc to growThere are requirements, like a brain wired and big enough as humans, or animalsAnimals have consciousness too, it just different levels.Human after brain damage can have shittier counsciousness than an ape Or non at all if nearly braindead
>>539197108Depends on you
>>539199322>they often twitch for several minutes after a brain injurythat doesn't meant they're experiencing it though anyway, one day we'll find out
>>539199099>>539199121I have experienced infinite consiousness several times, yes on drugs, but there is no doubt the experience was very real. The time and the "I" disolved but something remained that will always be.
>>539199494>yes on drugsopinion discardedI too got high a couple time and thought I was the entire universe and every atom in it separately but also I was Grendel from Beowulf because I was in college studying English at the timedidn't mean shit, it was just brain diarrhea
>>539199494>I took drugs that made be nuts but it was totally real trust me broSure, sure
>>539199494I had that on high doses of lsd while crawling on Baltic sea beach entire night and morning, scaring normies
>>539197108Yeah I smoked dmt and they showed me my next lives, reincarnation as a random living species is real. In one life I'm reincarnated as a gazelle looking think and I get tworn apart alive by hyenas. Not looking forward to it
>>539197108Yes.
>>539197108Why would you be scared of nothing?
>>539199598yup LSD will dissociate a motherfucker
>>53919710872 virgins, bro. you know what ya gotta do to get them
>>539197340that's the drug that allows NPCs to think they're Pneumatics
>>539199655Yeah, good wordingDissociation from your traits and all that
>>539197108Nope. Nothing.
>>539197108Live everyday like your last and assume the worst that there is nothing beyond this one give life.
>>539197108https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9zOeOtPOg
>>539199494>experiencedThis word is the critical part.>how do you experience something?>The time and the "I" disolved but something remained that will always be.As long as you can experience it, yes.I mean evidently your high ended, no?So much for time dissolving.>clearly it was a finite stateAs is everything.
>>539197108Imagine you are an ant in Russia. That's planet earth in the universe. Now Imagine you are a drop in the ocean, that's you. You are nothing. Billions of humans died before you and trillions of humans will die after you and that's completely irrelevant to the universe.
Rape.
>>539197108You get to fly
>>539199920Is an experience not real in itself? No the infinate consiousness is not finite i still have it. Time and personality was relearned to function in this world.
>>539198235Das rite.
>>539197108So generally speaking the same board who believes in satanic elites performing magic rituals, jews bringing about religious doomsday prophecies, all the conspiracies, the transhumanist agenda, history being fabricated nonsense, everything is fake and gay and so on......that board, that /pol/ is also full of atheistic, materialist and nihilist redditors?
>>539200181Yes, an experience is not (physically) real, but the event you experienced might have been, as most experiences are a product of the physical world, at least in part.>in other words it's all about perceptionAnd your sapience, self awareness, is another such thing, a sense like sight, except instead of looking outwards it looks inwards.>your view of your own beingWhich naturally varies, takes different forms, and develops over time, in each advanced life-form capable of some self-reflection.Dreams (and the like) are one of the more extreme examples, a pure expression of the self, with minimal outside input, besides what has already flown into your self; after all your self is shaped by reality, the environment, to a significant degree.>experience changes you and make people develop>i still have itExactly that, and it will continue to happen in some form, just like it has been happening since your body became capable of perception.In other words it's not different from other experiences you had; although it may have been more interesting or profound than the many mundane experiences you went through, that however also became absorbed into your self-perception.>whether the experience you had was based on real, physical processes or not is fundamentally meaningless; makes no differenceWhich all goes to demonstrate that the experience itself is not real. People will not all have the same experience going through the same events or situations. There will be subtle differences at least. Reality does not allow for this.>it's always the same for everybodyIn a manner of speaking, at least.
>>539197108if there isn't, you won't care, because you'll be dead
>>539197614It's called the memorywhipe. Some people have bleedtroughs though
>>539200814>satanic elites performing magic ritualsThey bond over that, you silly goose.>jews bringing about religious doomsday propheciesIsn't that more of a Christian thing? Judaism at its core is a materialist faith.>God promised them the world, not an afterlife.>all the conspiraciesHow do these matter? Of course people conspire to do things. What else are they supposed to do?>the transhumanist agendaIs also materialist.>history being fabricated nonsenseDoes this even matter? The past is over already. Nobody sane is overly concerned with history, and the present is once again materialist.>everything is fake and gay and so onIncluding your self in particular, yes.>especially the gay part, but also fake>atheisticWhat do you know about the gods?>absolutely nothingMeaning that's not relevant to the debate. There being gods does not automatically cause the immortality of the soul or create an afterlife.>materialistIf you physically exist your're a materialist.>nihilistAgain: no connection to the matter at hand.>e-everything is meaningless because... l-le DAETH>???Becoming a spoopy ghost after you die means things make sense?
>>539201518Well matter doesn't really exist so there is thathttps://share.google/kEwAZLBEDEhsoLqf6(CIA The Gateway Process)
>>539197108>Is there anything after you die, im scared brosyeshttps://youtu.be/RQKp27ZDuCk?si=UF25n81O8j7gxQxx&t=115
>>539197255No. The universe exists only as part of my conscious experience.
>>539201851You've got that flipped around.It's experience that is not real; in other words the contents of your mind, or the image you see, and so on, which is precisely what leads to all sorts of nonsense that people might experience, drug effects, being brainwashed, or simply schizophrenic.Physical reality is very real within its own constraints - whatever it means that everything is made from "energy"; WTF even is energy? Materialist juice.But the important part is that there's just one reality. Two people getting hit by the same car had the same interact with reality. No two people can eat the entire cake.>although they can experience eating the entire cake, even a million people all eating the same entire cakeThere's infinite experiences (or close to that).Ultimately this just means these two are different things, which in turn doesn't make one "better" than the other.>experiencing things that aren't real is totally 100% fine>stuff happening in reality however is fine tooIn fact the pure experience things often are way more interesting or entertaining than.. watching sportsball or stacking bricks or whatever.But it's important to point out that it's a one-way street, as far as can be ascertained:>reality influences (and creates) experience [and also requires materialist nutrients and nerves and such]>but experience itself does not influence reality, only action does [you are not restricted to punching jews in your dreams only]So no telekinesis or anything like that, soz; not in the real world, that is; it's fine to have weird dreams or hallucinations, unless you're being gangstalked by the CIA, of course.
>>539197108From one dream to another. Forever and ever. Until you recollect. We are eternal/infinite Mind. Don't go into the light. Tell the archons to fuck themselves. And cease all desire before you die. Simple as.
>>539204042>WeGonna pass on that shit. I don't want to be you or some random normie, and don't want him to be me either. That wouldn't even work. In other words individuality is lost in such a framework, and that, individuality, is all that actually matters in this area.>your self is the purpose behind your existenceOther people's experience and self-perception aren't your concern, and shouldn't be, broadly speaking (it's justified to make exceptions).Everybody (or everyself rather) being part of some kind of evermind or a persistent noosphere, doesn't allow your particular self to persist or return.However: it's questionable why people would insist for their self to endure either. The self isn't perfect, and the nature of the thing is that there will be nu-selfs after you. In the grand scheme of things it's about making sure the selfs that come after are better than your own. You won't live in or through them, say your hypothetical descendants, but functionally they are the same as you, a cake like you.>that's goodHell, imagine all the fucking normies existing forever.>maybe God is evil after all
>>539197108yes, but its the same hell as it is on this side already.
>>539197108Christ, you are one of those babies that would never go to sleep arn't you OP
>>539197232Gooner accelerationism now .. get in the Goon pods now ..
>>539197211>Not afraid of eternal hellfire
>>539197108Yeah all your fallen loved ones including your pets are waiting for you in heaven. God has all game consoles, movies, anime and heterosexual porn ever made. You can eat as much wagyu steak as you like and they even have their own version of 4chan but without corrupt jannies.
>>539205518In fact it's strictly impossible for selfs to endure for one far more fundamental reason:>it's not staticGotta be a moron to see the self as an unchanging thing. WTF is a "soul" supposed to be, and what its importance? The self never was unchanging and never will be, but develops and evolves (or degenerates), slowly, at least. You are not the same self as a decade ago or two.So even if the self was perpetual before long it would no longer be you, but would develop into something more or less incomprehensible given sufficient time; you would no longer be able to recognize it as your current self, or any instance of your self.
>>539205821Heaven is the Goon Pod for eternity
>>539197108For the first day or so you get to go where you like, but after that you spend 40 days in the aerial toll houses. You'll either go to heaven or down to hell until the general resurrection and the final judgement.
>>539197255>future is the same as the past.
>>539197487>Saar you're reincarnatedSo retarded
>>539197108Why are you in such a hurry to find out? Never quite understood that.
>>539197746youre not thinking 4th dimensionally. it is the same dog tube. basically.
>>539206053>Never quite understood that.It's really easy to understand if you try.
>>539197720>>539198235>>539200748basedSquirtlepremacy
>>539197108You should. Go to sleep. There is nothing there.
I'm not afraid of death itself. Eternal nothingness or an afterlife of sorts, who knows. It is what it is. But what really vexes me is the decay, the hospitals, the sickness... recently, a friend's dad died of a heart attack. He was in the supermarket and ack. Honestly, I feel jealous. That's a great way to go. Instantly, no bullshit, no surgeries, no cancer, nothing.I know a few people that have died of cancer and jesuschrist, I don't want that. Let me go with a nice and sweet heart attack
>>539206053
>>539197108No one knows, lad, so dwelling on it is just getting in the way of experiencing reality as it is in this moment.Don't worry about it.
>>539206214why not suffer as he suffered on the cross? it worked once, just like all of us born out of chaos and void.
>>539197108Its like that greek guy said; >When i am, death is not>When death is, i am not
pain
>>539206019midwit
>>539205821>they even have their own version of 4chan>/a/ - Spirit Familiars>/b/ - Predestined>/d/ - Divine>/e/ - Chaste>/f/ - TempleOS HolyC>/g/ - Magic>/gif/ - Raptured Godly Inspiration Files>/h/ - Handholding>/hr/ - Holy Resolve>/k/ - Plowshares>/m/ - Possession>/o/ - Clouds>/p/ - Visions>/s/ - Nuns>...
>>539206379I just hate hospitals, man. Just send me a heart attack
My life has sucked so bad I doubt the afterlife will be any better. That's my luck.
>>539206478sorry, colon cancer. you know what to do if you want to make it to heart attack ville.
>>539206555trips of truth don't go into the light
>>539206555why did it suck so much, anon? Mine was average, had good moments and many bad moments, but I really like the internet. I could spend the rest of my life just in front of my computer and I would be happy :).
>>539206584My mother had colon cancer :(. One grandma and one grandpa died of cancer. Maaaaaan, that's what I'm talking about. I've seen it with my own eyes. The sickness, the hospitals, the nurses, the food, the suffering, the decay...A heart attack doesn't sound so bad, huh?
>we cannot have all things to please ushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGxcTQsN3uc
>>539206449Saaaaaar
>>539206712just get screened and eat your vegetables, get your ass cancer surgically altered and stop the ass stuff with randos. outlook good, heart attack is still possible.
>>539206712don't worry anon .. we now have resuscitation systems in the high streets .. we can keep you alive for months now with minimal training
>>539197108yea theres way more of the same exact bsevery hollywood movie tells you to go into the light because its a brainwashing tactic from jews to get you stuck in a masonic demiurge
>>539206214It can always be worse.
>>539197108just believe on Jesus Christ and you’ll be fine
>>539206892>circlicalityis that even a word?
Don't worry.You will be reborn and start this horror all over again but with even more jeets....
>>539197108no one really knows fren, but whatever it is, is has to happen no matter what, so try to get comfortable with it.
>>539206641>why did it suck so much, anon?Mostly the 3 autoimmune disorders that ruined what should have been the prime days of my life. Also hurt my college grades hurting my chances of employment. Taking many years to get a decent wage. Now (I'm 44) and make an okay wage for a single guy, but it took a lot to get here.
>>539197108No (and that's a good thing)
>>539207014>44 .. singleyou are already dead
>>539207018Eternity of nothingness sounds scary to me.
>>539197108You get reincarnated as a jeet
>>539197108just dont die lmao fucking retard
>>539197108yes, there is no choice in the matter. once you exist you're fucked, you must exist forever
>>539197108Kill yourself and find out.
>>539207065an eternity in the Goon Pod is even worse
>>539207065It's not like you're going to experience any of it. No problems, no pain, no worries, sounds like a good deal to me. Every experience and every positive thing will always lead into something negative, because they will always make some sort of problem, worry or fear. Better to just get rid of all of it so there can be eternal peace.
>>539206612>don't go into the lightLike that alien on Star Trek Voyager that ate souls that went into the light.
>>539197367Why does everyone say this?
>>539207301>It's not like you're going to experience any of it.Nah, what this anon said is right: >>539207264It'll be an eternity of nothingness, and you'll experience every moment of it.
>>539197211you cannot experience nothing you imbecile. that is non-existence, which you cannot logically experience, thus it doesn't exist as far as you are concerned. it's like having a panic attack about the nothingness between two seconds, that you don't even experience in any meaningful way.time is a measure of fucking change. if there is no change, there is no time, there is no experience.
>>539207065It's okay bro, you won't even know about it, not even eternity will exist once you are gone.
>>539207364I didn't mean nothing, I meant whatever is possible to experience. you cannot experience nothing, that's fucking retarded
>>539207364Experience it with what? If you have experience then you're not dead and I don't really recall any of the billions of years of nothingness before this flesh prison was formed.
>>539199599I want to reincarnate as the heyena who tears you apart.
>>539207429With your soul, obviously. The second law of thermothaumaturgy clearly says that souls can only be created but never destroyed.
>>539207452Good luck!
>>539197108Ok bro, on one hand science can’t explain why the universe never ends, why you were born a white male in 2000, or why the world is so perfect. So maybe
>>539207479>soulNo such thing. You are the interactions of your particles creating an experience. Once those particles go their own way the experience ceases and will never happen again.
>>539207083I want to reincarnate as a tiger and hunt jeets for fun.
>>539207516>why you were born a white male in 2000meaningless question. it implies alternative.>or why the world is so perfectif it wasn't perfect to sustain life there would be no idiot wondering why it is so perfect to precisely sustain life isn't it? so your question is possible only in an universe which is exactly right to sustain life, so you moron can ask yourself "how come?"
>>539197108you should be lets break it down i cant afford food.i am emanuel sir theres probably alot when u die i dont want to be the guy to say it but
Fuck this discussion, I'm going to a bar.
>>539207479Your consciousness or "soul" is nothing more than bio-electro-chemical signals zapping and bubbling between your brain cells, once that process ceases to function, you experience nothing. The atoms that make up your cells will continue to exist though.
>>539207656
>>539207556If that were correct, then we'd all just be some kinds of flesh automatons. If purely physical processes gave rise to consciousness, that would raise this question: Why do I experience reality in the confines of this automaton, and why do you experience reality confined in that automaton? Why not the other way around? The answer is souls. My soul is attached to this body, and that's why I observe the world through these eyes, and that soul will exist even after this flesh machine withers and dies. Forever.
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