>You know Trump will order the poor U.S. troops to attack and capture Khark Island, because he’s an idiot.There’s nothing on that little island but oil.No food, no water,just oil.Even if the U.S. military successfully captures this little island, there’s absolutely no way they could hold it long-term or secure supplies.It’s too close to the Iranian mainland; Iran could use drones and missiles to prevent any supply ships or planes from getting near it.Plus, the island is completely flat,you won’t find a single spot suitable for defensive fortifications. If U.S. forces land on the island, their only option would be a World War II-style suicide charge up the beach.Iran would use heavy machine guns and FPV drones to attack the U.S. troops assaulting the island.A flood of drone kill footage would shatter the entire U.S. military’s propaganda machine, thereby destroying the petrodollar.
Imagine someone ordering you to capture a small island with flat terrain like this.That’s fucking suicide.
>>539205505Why would they want to capture it?
>>539205505I think they’re retarded enough to do it, and I really hope they doWe won’t win it, but fuck it would be so funny watching the Benny Hill compilations
>>539205595staging base for a ground invasion I guess but it's a retarded idea because it's basically just an easy target for drones and missiles
>>539205594It's not easier just to strategically bomb it to hell before invading it?
Donald here. Bibi and I are destroying Iran. We will blow up the power plants and Bibi`s boys will blow the bridges and the dams north of Tehran. The sand niggers will be drinking camel piss. After that we will capture Kharg Island and drop a few nukes in the area south of Tehran to demonstrate to the sand niggers their time is up. Teams of assassins will take out most of the Mullahs and the Supreme leader, what is left of this dick less piece of shit, will be strung up in one of their holy cities to make a point. Fucking subhuman sand niggers are done. Donald Patriots remember our OP is a Chinese trannie so beware. Not only that it ate the family dog after he fucked and then transitioned. Disgusting subhuman filth. DJT
>>539205670>staging baseMakes no sense. Their carriers and other large ships would serve the same purpose.
Bugmen getting nervous about Venezuela slave oil and Middle Eastern slave oil disappearing.Poor bugman, what ever will you do without slave oil?
>>539205505>would destroy the U.S. military's propaganda campaignOh, ye of little faith!Your glownigger coworkers can do more than you think.>I'm in Chyna!Yeah.Sure.Chinatown maybe.On wifi at a Chinese restaurant in Langley, almost assuredly.
>>539205739Our carriers can't get that close, they're too vulnerable
>>539205670Yeah that makes no sense at all. They have allied countries just a few km away.
>>539206043and those allied countries and our bases there are already getting droned and bombed and can't interceptkekthis war was a bad idea, maybe
>>539205594Looks easily cleared. The issue would be defending it long term. Surely the navy can park up on 3 sides.
>>539205505Bump
>>539205680>It's not easier just to strategically bomb it to hell before invading it?This makes no sense.Even if U.S. forces successfully killed everyone on the island, they still wouldn’t be able to occupy it.That’s because Khark Island is too close to the Iranian mainland.As long as Iran continues to launch missiles and drones, it can wipe out any U.S. troops attempting to station themselves on the island.Moreover, a destroyed Khark Island would quickly lose its strategic value, since there would be no oil storage facilities left on it.Iran would simply switch to ship-to-ship oil transport.Just as during the Iran-Iraq War, when the island was bombed to pieces by Iraq, Iran still managed to export oil.The U.S. would only face fierce retaliation from Iran.
>>539206088Then you'd fall for the bait and lose expensive ships.
>>539205594It’s been done before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wake_Island
>>539205595I think Iran exports a lot of its oil from there. Because it’s an island it’s easy for tankers to get in and out without requiring a deep water port. There might be pipelines going to it as well from the mainland, but I don’t know.
>>539205505Hold up, chinkoid, something you said doesn't line up.>There's not a single spot suitable for defensive fortifications.>Therefore, it would be a suicide charge for the U.S. to attack it.Now, if you said it would be easy to attack and difficult to hold, that would make sense. Because there are no defensive fortification spots. But you seemed to have gotten brain-tied and said it would be easy to defend.This is why chinkoids are inferior to Whites. Basic reasoning is too difficult for the average chinkoid.
bullshit. i conquered this island so many times in BF3.
>>539205505IDK. Looks like DICE balanced the map to give RU a better chance. I think less cover benefits Attackers more.
>>539207312>. i conquered this island so many times in BF3.Haha.I love BF3. EA should release a remaster this year.
>>539205505We don't have to actually put boots on the ground to own it.
>>539205505.>Flat.>Shows a complete detailed 3D satellite map showing some Mountains.>implying the US doesnt have some phalanx mounted on frigates or corvettes or whatever that is.>implying the US navy is small.>implying that anti-drone tech isnt available.jfc. Are you gay, and retarded?
>>539206316are you retarded?
>>539206109How they exporting oil with the blockade in place? Also, who is actually retarded enough to take a strategically insignificant island like Kharg that is sitting in the middle of a massive killzone? Bandar Abbas is the main focus right now.
>>539207680> Imagine someone ordering you to capture a small island with flat terrain like this. That’s fucking suicide.I was replying to this about topography not geographical location.
>>539205670They are prepping Bandar abbas as the staging area. Either way though, it’s absolutely retarded. Irans terrain makes it a nightmare to invade. It would take a coordinated effort with Europe to make it feasible. Which is why this war was so retarded in the first place. For years no president went for it because it’s an unwinnable war, and if Iran decided to close the strait in response to aggression, it would cause massive global problems. There was genuinely no reason to attack Iran. Other than sucking Jew dick.
>>539207757>How they exporting oil with the blockade in place?>Iran smuggled out $6 BILLION of oil during the brief truce, racing 70 million barrels to China before the blockade slammed shut.All Iran has to do is sign a few worthless pieces of paper, and it can continue exporting oil.Because Trump is a puppet and an idiot.
>>539207649>>implying the US doesnt have some phalanx mounted on frigates or corvettes or whatever that is.>>implying the US navy is small.>>implying that anti-drone tech isnt available.I hope the U.S. has a sufficient number of warships.They can serve as expendable assets to defend against Iranian missiles and drones.
>>539205594Imagine being a white incel loser and larping as a military strategist
>>539207839k well if Wake Island were in mortar range of Hokkaido then it would have been a different situation.
>>539207983Current generation CIWS is not designed for saturation attacks. Throwing 100 Shaheeds at a DDG is an incredible cost-to-value ratio
>>539205505That's a map from Battlefield
>>539205505Supposedly the plan is for a lightning raid over a weekend. Just go in, blow some stuff up and leave. It would be pointless but the goal would be to kill American soldiers in the hope it will increase support for the war/anger against Iran in the US they could use to justify further escalation. Also very risky because the public might blame Trump and Israel instead of Iran
>>539208545>Supposedly the plan is for a lightning raid over a weekend. Just go in, blow some stuff up and leave. Why?Iran will release a video showing an FPV drone killing a U.S. soldier.This will destroy the Republicans' approval ratings.
>>539208545Depends on who gets to them first with the propaganda narrative.
>>539207918Yea during the ceasefire you fucking dog eater. During the blockade, they were only able to move about 1% of their export capacity across land. The only reason they didn't have to cap their wells - which would have been devastating btw, was because they were able to use tankers sitting in port. Unfortunately for the Iranny, that blockade is now back in place. Bridges and critical infrastructure are being degraded slowly but strategically.
>>539205505we should nuke it.
>>539205736Hey Zognald. Youre obese and never get pussy lmao.
>>539208774>now back in place. Bridges and critical infrastructure are being degraded slowly but strategically.Yeah, yeah.I suppose you won’t be surprised when Iran starts attacking the infrastructure of other Middle Eastern countries and U.S. military bases in retaliation.https://x.com/i/status/2078387527208038554
>>539208858Finally. Someone fucking says it. Fuck em. We can't afford to lose face.
>>539205505it would be funny if the Iranians let them seize it, say with 50,000 marines and paratroopers and then just shut the door on them and refused to even accept their surrender or their supply or their withdrawl. Trapped like rats. Drone cameras could record the madness of starving heavily armed killers resorting to cannibalism for all the world to see. The agony would be unendurable for all but the worst sadists. Talk about a Thucydides trap.
>>539205595>Why would they want to capture it?
>>539205505How could they hold this island Irain could rain down missiles and drones on this little sandbar all the time. Why did Troomp even start this shit in the first place, before Irain didn't have a nuke and the strait was open so what was the fucking problem...
>>539208985You mean like they have been doing since the beginning? They're not even striking Israel to help their beloved golems in Lebanon. The IRGC are slowly becoming a world problem rather than a US and Israel problem.
>>539209140>The IRGC are slowly becoming a world problem rather than a US and Israel problem.Yeah, yeah.Killing their supreme leader in a bombing raid and hoping Iran will surrender as a result is clearly the best way to resolve this issue.
>>539209277Surrender? No, surrender is not the point. Nolegstaba will spend the rest of his life in a bunker like Nasrallah or Mullah Umar. If he's actually still alive, that is. Unfortunately, Trump wasted time striking missile caves instead of critical infrastructure. The country will soon become a hellscape. No fuel, no electricity, no internet, worthless money, no food.
>>539205505>t. IRCG fantrannie whatabouting all over the US Military’s cockGo fuck yourself faggot. IRGC would cut your heart out and throw you off a rooftop before your brain could shut off. Why? Because they consider you an abomination. If only you could understand the irony of a monstrosity like you defending the very same ideology that wants to mutilate and obliterate you.
>>539205505Not really... its an easy pickings for a blitz air assault, you can easily take that with a force of 2500 marines or other comando units.Now the problem is what happens if there is already an stockpile of wire-guided drones and almas launchers.The problem for Iran is that the island is small, a high density deployment of iranian troops there might be nasty for them.All in All America could just storm and take the island easily.
>>539209721>The country will soon become a hellscape. No fuel, no electricity, no internet, worthless money, no food.Yeah, yeah.I suppose it’s part of President Trump’s plan for other Middle Eastern countries to turn into hell as well, due to Iran’s retaliation.
You retards have been wrong about everything.
>>539209277>swallows all the lugenpresse propaganda his own shithole government compels from the lugenpresse>pretends like he's privy to real informationDon't OD on that copium you're huffing there, retarded memeflaggot.
>>539210104>muh retaliation>muh grand retaliationThat will go real well when the people are killing eachother in the streets over a loaf of bread. There's a reason the IRGC view this war as existential. It's their existence and stranglehold on power and the privileged lifestyles they get to live versus the general population.
>>539205505Washington's goal here (sorry, ZOG's goal) isn't to capture resources. We're converting away from an oil-based economy. Just glassing the island can happen with a few million dollars worth of conventional explosives.
>>539205505I thought Zognald was gonna drain the swamp? No new wars?What happened to that? Epstein's clients are still walking free and he started a war with Iran? And boomers still support this con artist?
>>539210510>That will go real well when the people are killing eachother in the streets over a loaf of bread. There's a reason the IRGC view this war as existential. It's their existence and stranglehold on power and the privileged lifestyles they get to live versus the general population.Just like other Middle Eastern countries.Yes, you’re right.The difference is that Saudi princes own luxury cars, while the Iranian Revolutionary Guard owns drones and missiles.Go ahead, drag the entire Middle East and the global economy into the abyss.Just for fun.
>>539211576>muh drones and missiles>muh luxury cars This implies that the gulf states hadn't already spent the better part of a decade planning for this with alternative pipeline and tanker routes. The war has only accelerated this. Iraq has also just agreed to kick the Iranny proxies out - including arresting Iranny collaborators, and rerouting their supply to the Mediterranean. And yet the Houthis and Fagbollah just sit there rattling their rusty broken sabres. Bashaar has been reduced to NEET status in Moscow as their industry burns. So much for BRICS and CSTO.
>>539211843Go ahead.Go destroy the economies of the entire Middle East and the whole world.Just for fun.
>>539208667It would be a gamble that dead Americans would cause a rally around the flag effect and increased bloodlust towards Iran. A very risky gamble.
>>539209095Forget even the missiles and drones; it's within heavy artillery range. Kharg Island would make Iwo Jima and Mount Suribachi look like a walk in the park for the USMC. Saturation artillery strikes and it also calls into question US air dominance over Iran even with the much vaunted swindle of US taxpayers by Lockheed's F35.
>>539209721>>539210104>>539210510Iran is a big nation. Western Europe size with almost 100 million people. They are dug in and ready to die in droves over this one. They are not us. They have had it with the jew world order, the "international rules based system. Ie They jews rule over your buttholes. Ask Heather O'rourke how that worked out for her. But the Iranians have all the power to shut down the Persian Gulf and the US can do nothing to stop that. 1/3 of the world's fertilizer cut off. Shortages of food. Millions starving. A catastrophic global depression the likes of which we've never seen. Oil at $200 a barrel. Trucker not able to deliver food to the supermarkets. And the US running out globally of missiles that can't be replaced because...kek..the jews sent all the industry to China. You not only lost those factories, those steel mills those electric diesel locomotive factories, you lost the skill sets of the tradesmen that made them run, that mad America THE FORGE OF DEMOCRACY. Thank you WTO and Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan and the Bush family and their Darth Vader policemen that crushed all protest against this national suicide. Yes remember Seattle. Trump the New York Democrat jew and Bibi "the insane" Netenyahu have made quite the stinky and now we simply have to endure the smell.Sending 50,000 troops into a Thucydides trap would be quite the Grand Guingnol catastrophe. Think the videos of Ukrainians and Russians getting their guts blown out was amusing. Get ready, this will be epic and the youth of America led by Communist niggers will rise up in a roar of rage that will astound the world at the mere hint that a million of them will be expected to be fed into the maw of a murderous bloody war.Fuck Kharg...they need a Normandy style amphibious invasion of the mainland coast, scaling huge cliffs that dwarf the ones at Omaha beach. We are so fucked. Europe is so fucked thank you assholes that blew up Nordstream II. The elite truly hates us
>>539205505YOINK it's ours now.
>>539211474>No new warsIt's not new, faggot.
>>539207757On one hand, I'd hate to see another chimpout of the usa. Such an embarrassment to the human species.On another hand, Americans desperately need a droning from the rest of the world until all their settlements are rubble.
STORM THE BEACHES, SCALE THE CLIFFS. TAKE NO HEED OF endless precipitous defiles of towering heights were deeply buried missiles and artillery can be launched at an invading force. Fortune favors the bold!With your gun in one hand and your bible in the other, you, bearers of the torch of the Judeo Christian Exceptional civilization will conquer all so that the perfect red heifers and come forth and be sacrificed in a holy purificatory rite that will bring forth the Third Temple and the coming of the Mochsiah! JARED KUSHNER!
Kharg won't do. You need to attack the mainland. Boots on the ground! Massive Normandy style invasion. Scale the cliffs. Millions must be drafted.
>>539213412Extraordinary rendition. Mom will put up missing posters, maybe a blurb in the newspaper, probably put up a Facebook please help us find anon he only went out to take the wheely bin to the curb and never returned. It will be a mystery just seemingly disappeared off face of the earth. But you will still be here.
>>539207615Boots are meant to touch ground. Those that wear them understand this. Their goal, do the job and step your boots elsewhere. No boots on the ground is media narrative framing to keep the US prostrate. It is no longer working.
>>539211843>>539211843And the Houthis sent the magnificent USS Eisenhower aircraft carrier to flight all the way back to Newport News Shipyard to repair the damage. Bab Al Mandab will be cut off. And Iranian missiles can reach the Mediterranean.
I don't think they'll be stupid enough to do so. I mean, I believe Trump would and probably Hegseth too, but Elbridge Colby is the guy running the war and if everyone in the brass is telling him it's a suicide mission he'll go with them because he's not a complete moron like his 2 bosses.
>>539205680Sure they could do that, but once they occupy it they're sitting ducks, and sitting ducks that just destroyed all the defensive infrastructure that could protect them from Iranian munitions.
>>539214353An emergency military government for 8 years followed by a re establishment of the original constitution where only white land owning males would be allowed to vote would bring peace and prosperity back to America. Lt Von Riper would make the ideal leader for this task. Of course this would also mean the expulsion of large numbers of undesireables including almost all of the chosenites but sacrfices must be made...
>>539205680And what stops you from being bombed to hell once you have invaded?
>>539209721That's cute plan migger, and what is your plan to stop them from retaliating, plunging the world into the 2nd great recession and destroying the petrodollar for good? Oh you don't have one?
>>539208044You gonna suit up and fight then, jew coward?
>>539213006>Iran is a big nation. Western Europe size with almost 100 million peopleIf Iran were to mobilize 10 million troops for the war, the U.S. would need at least 8 million.It would be a hellish ground war.Iran’s mountains and missiles turn the entire country into a fortress.The U.S. would advance at a pace far slower than Russia’s.Advancing inch by inch over five years, with at least 2 million casualties.That would be suicide.
What if the US conscripted all non-White males, gave them a couple weeks training, and sent them direct to zerg rush Iran? Call it Operation Human Shield. 100+ million man army. They'd get through at some point after 98 or 99 million sacrifice themselves for America.
>>539205595>Why would they want to capture it?Because Trump is retarded. He thinks it's like an RTS game where if he captures the hub he gets the oil, but all that will happen is they'll stop pumping it there and drumf will seethe on truthsocial that because he won they have to give it to him.
Taking it will be retarded. Snake Island 2.0
>>539205505boots on the ground will be hundreds of american soldiers deadbombing the island will be thousands of iranian civilians deadin the end, invading is a PR nightmare for america. it would be the end of the american empire as the world will never trust an american again
>>539213006Drones make terrain piss easy to attack and defend from. It is arguably easier to attack and to defend than ever with technological superiority on a stable slow front.What matters in the modern era is industrial output of weapons of war, if you can outproduce your enemies and supply your troops with that production, you win.Iran has plenty of mountains, but you can't really build a war machine from hiding in holes.
Trump is itching to get himself hanged and have every cent of his families money confiscated for flagrant business law violations (fed and state). Guess he is pretty confident that Maschiach is gonna save the crew (Hegseth, Kash, Miller). Nope ! Hahahaha!!!!
>>539212557I'd like to think that the US military is capable of quickly detecting and destroying regular old tube artillery in an area they have complete aerial supremacy over.
>>539205594>flat terrainWhat ever happened to>muh Iranian mountainscope?
>>539205594already did in battlefield 3its not that bad if you have air superiority
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>>539219940uh, well, seeing ones an island and ones not and thus they have literally nothing to do with eachothers situations, uh, nothing. let me ask a question as dumb as yours. lets pretend we are talking about shipping goods across the ocean, and you come in and go "why dont we use trucks to cross the ocean"
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>>539205505Looks like a vidya map
>>539205505They could take and defend a beachhead there. They're bombing the shit out of IRGC positions in the south and apart from a few drones and the odd BM, Iran couldn't do much else. Just put the USN ships' defensive bubble around it.
>>539220824retard
>>539220824>Just put the USN ships' defensive bubble around it.How many missiles can they defend against?
I am starting to think this is a purposeful demolition of American hegemony. Whoever is actually deciding things has made a decision that the power and money needs to move and Trump is simply dumb enough and easily manipulated to accomplish it.I expect at least a decade of very bad times.
Kek try it it will be fine.
>>539207757on average between 3-7 ships transited Hormuz during full US blockade, almost all of them linked to either Iran or China and most of them were tankerstherefore, US blockade was only partially effective, and if we consider that USA only braged about tankers being seized once every couple of days, it was not particularly effective
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