My genius solution to all the controversy around datacenters.build cheap basic apartments inside the datacenters, you'll solve the housing / property crisis and beat China at AI in one go. Even if you only dedicated 10% of the building to small apartments you'd make it an attractive option.There are no downsides.PROVE ME WRONG?
>>539207440Yeah, go ahead. I'll be in the woods.
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>>539207440why? why not just leave you homeless and outside the fence. what is their incentive
>>539207440>There are no downsides.The sound pollution would be unbearable
>>539207440It's super loud and chilly in there.
>>539208641>chilly>when the chips are constantly generating heat
>>539208693they crank the a/c because too much heat will damage the chips
>>539208693This. Data centers create so much heat the create there own eco system. And let's not mention the light pollution
I crank my a/c too to compensate for just my desktop and big monitor, kicks out a surprising amount of heat, just thosemakes the room they're in 10+ degrees hotter than the rest of the house with the door shut
>>539207440Not residential zoning sorry
>>539208564The servers won't care if niggers are playing music on their bluetube speakers.
Those data centers are already filled with electronics I can't afford.
>>539208641Sounds comfy. When I worked in a warehouse I always thought about camping overnight inside the place.
>>539208838https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTm-U53tJ4w&pp=ygURZGF0YSBjZW50ZXIgbm9pc2U%3D
>>539207440You would go deaf.
>>539209386No, homeless people would go deaf, so who cares?
>>539209800homeless "people" lol
>>539207440The vibrations from all the computers makes people none stop orgasm for hours.
These buildings are designed with heat transfer in mind. We limit human occupancy to be as minimal as possible for necessary maintenance only. Humans are warm, which is no bueno for the chips.
>>539208389I get that reference and I fucking hate indians for making me understand just how asinine it is.
ezpz:>put data center under ground (level 0) with anti-vibration all around>above that floor is amazon warehouse (level 1)>above that is wagie sleeping quarters (level 2-10)>shower water is recycled to cool the data center>wagies who do well get to move higher up the building>oh you wanna go to gym? wagies get free access to gym. all their cycling inside the gym produces small amount of electricity that feeds back into the system>wagie waste gets processed, methane also input that produces energywhy isn't bezos or amazon building out entire cities? instead they just rely on city infrastruct. built 50-100 years ago. SF for example is a very old city. same goes for LA.that's why common ppl hate billionaires. they actually don't build and reinvest as much as they could. Seattle, hub of amazon, is a shithole. same goes for LA and SF. the money is being made and spent on yachts.
>>539210943Begin the Arcologies.
>>539210943>oh you want to have sex and get free edu?wagies get access to complete online univ. courses, accessed through the employee portal. and special sex rooms that they reserve to have sex romps in. a carefully built high-tech city could work if we just hash out all the details. it'd be better than the shitholes we live in now.instead they wanna buy up farmland, build a huge datacenter there, next to some anti-tech small town folks. stupid shit.
>>539207440sure, if they managed to put the datacenters in COLD LOCATIONS like Alaska or the Rockies
>>539210972seriously, look at the layout of las vegas for example. annoying, inefficient transportation. that's why they had to greenlight self-driving cars, as one of the earliest cities to have it. parking is no longer free, because parking lots take up so much room and that's seen as waste.then there's entire lots left empty. housing is getting as expensive as major cities like LA.SD went through a tech boom, is now unaffordable.when these assholes do build vertically, it's still not efficient. it's not multi-use.when some genius finally builds a "smart city" it'll be the next huge thing. and the poors will be shut-out from living there.
>>539210972>>539211031and attract more ppl to live in those placesalaska needs moar women
>>539211031>COLD like Alaska, "Rockies" Gets into the 80s in both places in the Summer and often higher heat waves for weeks.
>>539207440>There are no downsides.do you have any idea how loud it is inside a data center?have you ever heard how loud server rack fans are?you have to yell to be heard.
>>539207440I have a different yet similar idea:All employers should be required to also construct apartments onto the work building (or at least the same property)Example: Walmart must have built in apartments workers can choose to live in.Imagine how crazy it would be to step out your apartment front door directly into a Walmart lol, that shit would be crazy.
>>539207440And turn the roof into solar/wind farms.
>>539211737Ideally they should be rent free yet at the same time great efficiency gains will be had because workers save on gas, commute time, and this will increase worker productivity and on-time arrival, and less reason to quit and find another job, and the fact that if they lose their job they have to move too.
>>539207440I don't want some weirdo living next to my data
>>539207440no, instead, get rid of data centers and just put a small data center in every building as a way to provide much needed heat in the winter
>>539211488super checked
>>539212012>and less reason to quit and find another job, and the fact that if they lose their job they have to move too.This is the best argument against company housing since it gives the company a huge amount of leverage over workers. Ask the Appalachians.
>>539212126the should make mini data center /orphanages
>>539208751Amazing that there is virtually zero thought put into reusing the heat generated from data centers. Here we have one farmer that built a firewood drying barn connected to a data center so he can use the excess heat to dry firewood five times faster than the standard process.
>>539207440They are way too wide for that.
>>539213509It's not clean heat, it's like breathing in the exhaust of your PC.
>>539207440It's just a warehouse. Imagine how much of an utter imbecile you have to be be scared of this. People are just being pissy faggots because the USA is reindustrializing.
>>539208564What sound pollution? The screams of a million faggots crying in pain?
>>539207610enjoys your ticks and cryptids
>>539213509He's just a dumb imbecile, like these faggots that don't realize their cooling systems are a closed loop. "But the water" Closed. Fucking. Loop.
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>>539213636you lost, migger
>>539207440free air conditioning, electricity and wifi, really fast porn download speeds
>>539213702You do understand that closed loops still dump heat somewhere outside of the system, right?
>>539213702Most data centers aren't even closed loop. And closed loop systems still dump heat retard.
>>539216108Not the head, the water cycle you imbecile. Of course it sheds heat, that's the whole point.
First aboard the literal matrix lmao just move into the computer lmao you're gonna die if you do that, almost certainly or arrive in a state worse than death itself
They already won't let me sleep on a cot at the shop. You really think a datacenter wants low IQ, low income ppl anywhere near it?? I wonder why that is.... why they hide these centers in docile communities that never threw a punch in their LIFE HMMMMM
>>539216125the water isn't closed loop either, otherwise every cunt wouldn't be kvetching about the enormous daily water consumption volumes
>>539207440They are going to steal and eat the nvidia GPUs, it’s hot and smells good.
>>539207440Why not build data centers inside people's homes?
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>>539207440>There are no downsides.These datacenters are loud as fuck
Back in the 1970s the CIA had google earth. With real time footage. Mind you the live feed broadcasted from satellites only provided 480p at most. But now with starlink, we can see anyone at anytime and zoom in on them eating a snack in the park. Use optics to see in buildings. All HD. The data centers are for storing all the mass data collected through starlink and the net and alike. What we use for A.i, doesnt have a data center for it. Its just a building with servers like say, blizzard gaming company. These data centers you see popping up are more sinister than storing a song you made off suno. Or a 15 sec clip from sora. When it was a thing. No, they are for mass surveilance. Thus the reason they are built like compounds.
>>539213702"Closed loop" is a misnomer somewhat. Closed loop implies no new inputs once set up but the reality is that it's constantly cycling. The water needs to be cooler than the components to be used again, it's often cheaper to just "buy" new water from the tap and dump the old water than it is to spend energy cooling the old water back down as that takes a significant amount of electricity.
>>539213623the heat is captured by water pipes, the air quality is the job of air filter. urban datacenters already offer cheap hot water for the surrounding buildings in some places.but when you look at it it's still a side product, really inefficient, with the water cooling system itself generating a non noticeable amount of heat.
the problem is believing data centers are a sloved technologie. in reality, the current model of stacking autonomous computers is a relic from a past usage that isn't even coherent with the needs of AI. Future servers will have maybe one "real computer" sytem controlling thin slices of pseudo computers that will spread the load so much more efficiently it will naturally run at 40°-50°C and remove the need of this nightmarish heatsink and AC systems.And that's without the advancement of the software itself. AI is currently jeet code at 90%, requires python to wrap it up and the best learning algorihm are barely 10% more efficient than just randomly changing numbers until the precision is met.We should have solved the tech before scaling up, this current rush is only ending in blood and tears.
>>539217319Mostly high frequent noise. Easy to filter with some isolating fluff in the wall
>>539207440Combine the rent with a free 10TB cloud storage in the same datacenter on local network connection and I am moving in tomorrow.
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>>539207440Youve never had a real job or been inside a server room. KYS
>>539207440>you'll solve the housing / property crisisbe nice and warm in winter too
>>539207440What are they "beating" China at?
>>539207440>Apartments. Just break the fuck in or build a tent on the roof.Giving these niggers more money is tarded.
if they never become operational and just remain a gigantic concrete shell, that is actually a great idea. ample space to have a rave too
>>539207440The problem is data centers need to be high security because they deal with so much encrypted data. You can't just have Joe Schmo pirating movies from the same router that the government is using for emails.
>>539207440My guess is that they are covers for huge underground military facillities. So I dont if living there would be "safe"
>>539207610Enjoy the mind bending horrors of wendigos and bigfoots.
>>539207440>People should liveThis is where you're wrong goy.
>>539211737this is the situation in the town of banff alberta, which is in a national park. virtually impossible to build anything there due to regulations, so the property pool is small, and you can only lease the land for 99 years. so housing is at a premium. but, the cocaine dealers that own everything still need staff to work in their money laundering businesses, so the rule is any business started after a certain date has to provide staff accommodation by law. so a lot of people lived on site, others on satellite properties dotted throughout the town, it depended on the employer. a lot of hotels have staff living on site, like the fairmont.so it can be great that way. but as anon here points out,>>539212306they get a lot of control over your life. so they have super strict rules and a power hungry hr roastie to enforce them. if they get the ick they just lie and say you had a messy place and kick you out with 24hrs notice, happened all the time. then you're stuck in town in a place where you pay vancouver prices to stay 3-4 to a room, on a minimu wage. and of course if you get fired you are out on the street as well.it seems like a regulation issue though, employers are mostly evil and they need to be arm twisted into even the most basic of decent acts.
>>539207440>live in the industrial box, goyI bet everyone would get their own pods, no way the filthy masses would sleep next to server racks
>>539208790it doesnt get hot enough in america for +10 degrees F to ever matter. grow the fuck up.