Why are Russians vilified in the west as “evil” for supporting Putin, while the context of the fact that Putin brought Russia out of a genuine humanitarian disaster in the 90s is entirely overlooked?
>>539213403So why was Russia lagging behind every other post soviet shithole? He was oligaech maxxing to gain hige wealth for himself, his family and his cronies. Reality is that it was just enough to keep the vodkaniggers happy, but still behind a lot compared to the west or even chinks
Brought out of? Russia is the world's hub for CSAM, anon. Their culture is fucked.
>>539213403The "west" wanted Russians to die of hunger, drug overdose and AIDS. Putin put a stop to that.
>>539213871If that were true, there would be no western brands in Russia. From tech gadgets to cars. They would be more like Cuba.
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>>539213698lmao but Epstein thrived in USAEpstein list still thrives in USAchild trafficking is the USA topic
>>539213984Epstein had many visits to Russia according to his emails. He himself in fact originates from the Russian empire. Stolofsky family from Lithuania
>>539214114And that one time long ago when he lifted the little boy's shirt and kissed him on the stomach.
>>539213403This is true, Russia after the fall of the soviet union was a really fucked up place, full of mafias, prostitution of all kinds, there was a mass rape epidemic, drugs everywhere.Putin took russia out of the Abyss, but it was not without help either, the Russian orthodox church also played a role in stabilizing society.
>>539214274Again, Russia may be less shitty than what it was, but that's saying little.
>>539213403Putin took on the 7 bankers and that can't be tolerated
>>539213403Because the west hates multipolarity, the west hates when somebody gives an alternative for their degenerative lifestyleThey hate Putin because he is good in what he is doing, they hate Russians because they know that we know how cool Putin actually is.Putin is a modern day Caesar
>>539214114Epstein had many visits everywhere, lmao.Did you only read the part of emails that your mother brought you with milk and cookies before bedtime?>Russian hiig tier govt related pedo'sNever got caught.Maybe you should dig for some? Ever our local agent Faggot unable to do this.I am sure anti-Russian propaganda will be very happy.
>>539213403Its so fucked that the west tried to sabotage and jew russia post communism. Geopolitical disaster.We should have helped them, celebrated with them and elevated them. It should have been marshal plan and humanitarian aid as well as integration with cultural exchange and deradicalisation .Instead it was just HELL and oligarch kikery. We betrayed a people who had done nothing but live under the yoke and terror of communism for generations. Makes me so sad.
>>539214517That same guy he postes, Tesak caught Andrei Kaminov, the deputy head of the Federal Bailiff Service for Moscow Oblast, in a sting operation in 2013. Tesak lured Kaminov to a Moscow apartment by posing as a 14-year-old boy on a social network, filmed the confrontation, and uploaded the video online. Just to give you an example. >Vitaly Kurskov>Igor Poplevk>Artem Samsonov
>>539214681>it's all jews
>>539214681Also Litvinenko said Putin is a pedophile and got poisoned by Russian agents shortly after. But maybe that's just a cohencidence.
>>539213403A better question is why chuds who are supposedly conservatives gaze at a nation that is anything but that.
>>539213631The Americans put the oligarchs in power. They were going to setup Russian Jews to deal with American Jews so they would be the primary beneficiaries of international trade in Russia. Only Putin killed the more corrupt kikes and straightened the others out. Americans really have no clue how fucked up and evil their government is. Then they bitch snd cry about how evil Russia is because someone like Putin fights back.
>>539215576Funny thing about that is that its very well organized where they locate the subversive jews. America is the way that it is because of the internationalist Russian yids.
>>539213403Putin was an active participant in that genuine humanitarian disaster
>>539215391It's not chuds, it's straight up shills.You overestimate number of people that post online.99% are passive consumers.
>he did some stuff i consider god in the past so he gets fa free pass nowlow IQ
>>539213403>putin broughtSurging oil prices in 00s did. It just so happened that putin was sitting on a throne during that time. Terrible administrator saved by rising commodity price he had a lot to sell.
>>539213403It’s crazy that Russia is one of the only countries wherein older people are more likely to be literate than the young.
because of selling oilthere would be a literal monkey as president and russia would thrive those yearseven better actually the monkey wouldnt understand the concept of corruption and making mistakesalso putnik started a war a blew rusia back to 90s again>t-thanks
>>539213403Because he didn't, factors other than Putin did. People give leaders way more credit than they are due in this regard.
He should have used that oil money to improve the country instead of propping out his oligarchy. But yeah, Russia in the 2010s was better than Russia in the 1990s so that means it's ok for Putin to send Chechens in Ukraine to rape children. Gret logic.
How the fuck can anyone suck this chabad kike puppet off like OP?
>>539213871The west send food and other aid from preventing them from starvation like usual and instead of being thankful for once they act like arrogant niggers we wuz superpower again.
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>>539213403The humanitarian disaster was caused by the ineffective USSR. The USA literally saved russia from starvation in the 90s.
>>539217498The West never learns. After this shit is over they'll again help the poor Russians, return with their investments and businesses and then we'll all be surprised when the next dear daddy dictator starts shit in 20 years.
The Jewish -John McCain and Lindsey Graham dream is dead. I warned every Ukrainian I could. Now look where they are. But do not despair, as vengeance to the Palestinians , the kikes will not touch Ukraine, Nor the river to the sea unless they are drowning in it. God will destroy them
>>539213871Esti prost de puti. De ce pm sunt asa multi romani prosti? Ba, sunteti toti tigani sau cum pm sunteti asa retardati?
>>539213403Did the FBI ever catch the jew pedophiles raping children in Russia in the 90s? Or did they all "somehow" escape to Israel?
>>539217604If Russia collapses we will get flooded again by millions of subhuman Russians like it happened in the 90s.Our stupid leaders will open the doors for them again.It sucks
>>539217604>After this shit is over they'll again help the poor Russians, return with their investments and businesses and then we'll all be surprised when the next dear daddy dictator starts shit in 20 years.That has been the blueprint for the last century.
Because if Russia, joined the west on equal terms.. it would be integrated to the EU most likely. Then USA would just have to fuck off from europe. Imagine an EU with the human, political, economical and resource capital.. assuming it had Russia into it. It would be by far the strongest pseudo nation on Earth. It would be an existential problem for the US.The eu would eclipse the US by miles.. alas USA jews knew how to ignite a war between the two..
>>539217839you're most likely will be getting caucasian churkoids instead
>>539218046>Russians want dictator and to attack other countries because... America made them!!!
>>539213403What the fuck are you talking about?Putin was perfectly welcome in the west until he started invading other countries.
>>539218190Even after their 2014 invasion we all went with appeasements especially Germany but they only saw this as weakness so they believed they could take even more of Ukraine and get away with it again.Russians are really not normal they only know master and slave mentality and never cooperation on equal terms.
>>539213403Jews hate Russia and Russians. That's why they did the Holodomor and Bolshevik takeover.
>>539213403Because the Western elites hate Russia and they hate Putin because they do not control him, and he stopped their plans to completely rape and destroy Russia. When the USSR fell, the US had a bunch of economic advisors go there and give the USSR horrible advice in their communism-capitalism transition, aimed at economically destroying the country and just in general destroying it. That is why. That sort of misery, poverty, suffering, etc. is what they want for them.
>>539220112Tell us about the jews anon.
>>539213403The west bailed Russia out.Putin and his oligarchs were just there to leech off our generosity.And now due to the invasion he started Russians are openly discussing society degenerating back to the bad old days of the 90's.Only this time, no one will bail them out because we know they'll inevitably just turn around and use the crutch we give them to try to bash and rape one of their neighbors.
>>539213403>Putin brought Russia out of a genuine humanitarian disaster in the 90sdescribe every step how he did it
>>539221292What generosity?
>>539214354i think it's more just generic rusophobia than anything else. People here actually think that USSR was very bad and it was because russians are evil. I ask them if they think Nazi Germany conquerring Lithuania would have been better and they tell me that certainly it would be when germans were literally going to just genocide more than 80% lithuanians. Although maybe lithuanians just tired of killing themselves, they wanted someone to do it for them.
>>539217498you do know the cia was running drug farms in afganistan to export drugs to iran and russia.thankfully it's america that's suffering drug epidemic now
>>539222055the butthurth belt unironically loves nazis now more than Russians despite what the nezis did to them, ironic considering the EU is drifting back to "woke" naziesm
>>539213631>He was oligaech maxxing...as a result of a process designed by the harvard and chicago boys. please read a fucking book.>>539221292>das rite
>>539222240We did such horrors like liberating them from communist terror, opening churches and improving living standards
>>539222289didn't nazis hate the Catholics and prosecuted Christians and killed and burned churches, unless you get your history from hyperborean edits ?
humanitarian disaster is russias natural state to which it currently returnsrussians are the cause for this and only judged by the content of their characters
>>539213403Jews
>>539217498The largest portion of the humanitarian aid consisted of cigarettes which were supplied to the church (organized mafia) at about half price and no taxes. All this was happening while people were starvingAnd Putin put an end to that and brought the entire church under his control, so much so that you're still butthurt about it. But your historians say that he was an evil dictator who sought to destroy freedom because he was evil.
>>539213631>>539213403When Soviet Union collapsed, the west 1. Stole hundreds of billions of $ from SU and Russia.>the reason capitalist west only collapsing NOW , and not then >is because they robbed SU / Russia blind2. Oligarchs where invented by London, they decided they are going to rule Russia through corrupt jewish oligarchs that they controlled . This didn't work as Putin started quickly jailing them, and they had to run away to Israel, London and NYC.
>>539213403Are you sure about that?
>>539222401Goebbels was a Catholic.
>>539224109>hohol jew from odessa oblast on vpn
I grew up in communism (I was born in 1990) and it was awful. Thank god my parents moved west
>>539213403overwrite memory by new thing that is Ukraine waralso>Putin brought Russiayeah, I'm 45 living border to border, and I really doubt he helped so much, rather despite him ruling Russia managed to crawl out of catastrophe
>>539213403Moskals are evil because they commit evil deeds. It's not difficult to understand.
>>539224196Communism didn't exist . It's a made up UTOPIA. What existed is SOCIALISM.>I was born in 1990) Everything has already collapsed by then the remains of Soviet Union was robbed blind by the west by then. All business connections for factories were all cut off by then as well ,they had to find new equipment, new materials , new markets for the products etc. It was the lowest point.
>>539224232>Czech republicAre you a real czech, or hohol jew on VPN?>population now 11 mln>Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia had a peak population of 15.6 million in 1991
>>539214354You want multipolarity when you have fucking nothing to offer and have to resort to dragging hostage countries into you by force?Each attempt at becoming a propsering country has always devolved into a corrupt shithole where a bottle of coke was the weight of gold. You're just looting niggers and want guarantees to be allowed to loot more. Nothing more.
>>539224702> You want multipolarity when you have fucking nothing to offerChristianityTraditional valuesNuclear familyAnti-troonism and anti-faggotoryTop notch techRespect to elders and to yourselfLack of suicidal empathy.Lack of GMO and abundance of natural productsCheap home owning, groceries, and tech
>539213403Russians are evil because they defy western narrative and globohomo world order90s survival is overrated because it was another failed attempt to finally deal with Russia from the west, when shit fails it is swept under the rug as if there was never an attempt in the first place
>>539213631What are you talking about? Russia is the only survivor of communism that hasn't turned into a complete shithole.
>>539224995>We're not as bad as le west says, look at our traditional values!You are.Also you just agreed to import infinty jeets.
>>539213403rich considering in the 90's white lands were being taken over by Nigger culture.
>>539225248 >>539224702>d into a corrupt shithole where a bottle of coke was the weight of gold. This is clearly a brainwashed by the CIA american with a memeflagSo now you make up fake news and then claim your lies are true?
>>539221292chyna will and is bailing them out this time.Biden foreign policy is to push russia and chyna into alliance to force Europe to realign itself with America rather than drifting to self sufficiency. Trump admin is just wasted years doing side quests for various oligarch interests, but the Biden policy is still in motion to some extent.
>>539213403:DCop investigates pedo and to comfort the pedo and make him feel comfortable states “Hey, this isn’t Nazi Germany dude”Cop doesn’t know it. But he just confirmed your children were safer in “Nazi Germany”
>>539225248> MUH INDIANS ARE.... LE BADYou are a retarded pig
>>539213403No one was against Putin when he was turning Russia from a failed state in the 90's to a superpower in the 10'sWe are against Putin because he's turning Russia from a superpower in the 10's to a failed state in the 30's
>>539213403How much of that was Putin's doing and just Russia recovering from the chaos of sudden privatization with a pretty weak state and institutions? Like are you saying that just because he was there and maybe did intimidate the oligarches that he has now free reign to take Russia in any direction and he should be trusted because Yeltsin (his friend who literally placed him in power) fucked Russia in the past?Russians are understandably apathetic to supportive of Putin because he's a dickmongler who hollowed out the state even more and his sudden removal or his projects failing might just bring more chaos and harm to Russia. There's no credible option by design of Putin and that reality is apparent. The west might moralize all they want but if you are staring at the abyss you're more likely to hope Putin is competent enough to succeed in whatever he is doing so shit doesn't get worse.The west hate him because he's an enemy of them and then make up shit to justify that position. Russians aren't as willing to interpret things at their behest and they have little reason to buy into the western narratives too hard and quite frankly the west isn't that interested either. Washington suggested shock therapy reforms and sat back and laughed. They just wanted a Russia that didn't collapse but didn't care for the suffering and didn't want to risk making any power sharing agreements or compromises as Russia would demand way more of NATO that the establishment wanted (look at when Germany was formed and the small shitty European states refused to budge to adjust to a new power wanting to harvest its influence).
>>539225400Thank you for your input, Alyosha from Missouri Oblast>>539225474Your shithole is literally too corrupt to prosper much less secure military victories against countries armed with anything from the west, and you seethe that your former yalta prisoner countries are now better off.
>>539222401Vatican directly helped the Nazis to escape to South America via the so called "rat lines". You're obviously extremely dumb when it comes to history which is expected from brainwashed Russia simps.
>>539222240ironic considering Lithuania would have only 1/2 of it's current territory if not for USSR but somehow lithuanians are still the victims. Vilnius was 50:50 jewish:polish before ww2, Memel/Klaipeda was german. Still, got to cry how USSR killed 60k of lithuanians
>>539225196tell me more, pyotr
>>539213403Time had to print a retraction for that story, nafo troon. >look Russians are dressing up boys as girls! How evil!Meanwhile today in the USA....
>>539214274Its a fake story and you are a kike
>>539226042Shall we talk about how Black Culture took over your country and other's during the 90's white man?
Putin was larping as good leader for few first years, frightening populace that if not him, the 90s will come back.Now it's like 90s but a century beforeI like Russia in a few aspects, I have Russian friends and they know same as many, that noone fucks Russians over more than Kremlin. I wish them better than Putin.Now call me a Rusophobe or whatever
>>539226042UK is literally the current USSR. Shouldn't you be out cutting down CCTVs ahmed?
>>539225196Lol
>>539213403>Why arethe globalists tried to loot russia and bring them under their yoketheir plan flopped when putin stepped in to save the countryhis plan was to empower russian oligarchs and mafia and allow them to counter the globalist elites and criminalshe also tossed the foreign soft power intelligence operations (NGOs) out of the countrythe globalists are pissed at himhe wrecked thier plans, and they still dont have control of russia
>>539226130>>539226328can't explain how russia is a better place to live than its neighbours? ok
>>539213403She didn't have to do Gena dirty like that. A simple "yes, there are boys who do it as well" would have sufficed.
>>539224096>>the reason capitalist west only collapsing NOW , and not thenKek peak delusion. The USSR had no money just assets, that's why it collapsed you dumb retard.
>>539226407Simple:No nigger cultureYour turn.
>>539213403All the good Russians left. Only the ones too stupid or lazy to escape remain. Between Ukraine and Vodka Russians are worse than niggers.
>>539226485>No nigger cultureOk if you say so.
>>539226355Okay I guess Poland and Hungary and East Germany are doing better. I forgot those were commies too.
>>539222055>russophobiaLiterally memed tranny concept in 00s. It does not exist in reality. Anything russian state does not like could be "considered" as said "russophobia". In real world there is only russorealism. Around russians, never relax.
>>539226407Also you let your princess die when a nigger when seen in the car with her. I wanna know more about how Absurd and Degenerate England was in the 90's. Spice Girls and all.
>>539226511That's not in the 90's I see your IQ is low from all the Jew cock you suck.
>>539226407>moves the goalposts as soon as he's wrongTypical for a brown invaders.
>>539222240>>539222055And what did germans "did" to balts? Mythical "it really exist, but no, we will not show the document" (((Generalplanost)))? Fucking insane. >woke naziesmKek. Fucking schizo.
>>539226507Well, now they need the gov to agree to their departureLines for benzyna, reminds me of fun old times pre 90sThough, mostly in stores, benzyna then was plenty.This thread is filled with silly westerners
>>539226568I don't think you could get even a small rise from the average bong pleb bringing up diana btw. It's too old a news story of a whore doing whore things with other billionaire male whores.
>>539213403Nigger he was KGB colonel he literally was one of the faggots who caused it to begin with while tearing apart the union among themselves.
>>539226511I wonder...how much nigger cock can a Holol girl can fit inside her body..sadly we will never know because the test subject got her dumbass killed by one.
>>539225972>ironic considering Lithuania would have only 1/2 of it's current territory if not for USSRRandom bullshit, GO!
>>539226593>moves the goalpostsbut still nobody has given me an answer. all you retards can do is>oh but what about niggersas if russia itself isn't a mutted melting pot
>>539226686Holol, why are you women such whores?
>>539226522Yeah we wuzWarsaw Pact and all. I was born in the end years of it's existence
>>539226328Most of the millionaires leaving are europeans going back to europe because of brexit, the others are rich people leaving to Australia because it's bong-lite but sunny.
>>539213403Putin was the hand picked successor of Yeltsin. Its the same clique of oligarchs who caused 90's economic turmoil and claim to have ended it.
>>539226585I'm sorry that's not the question I was answering. What you said was disconnected from the 90's. Meanwhile russia had collapsed and little boys were sucking cock in st pidorsburg.>>539226670SeetheCopeWhatever.
>>539226686>its neighboursDo I really need to point out why it's better than china and india and the entire middle east? Really? You reckon India is better than Moscow?
>>539226739I mean yeah I'd rather be in Poland than Russia, but I'd rather be in Russia than in China.
>>539226828Ah soo you are a Mongolian blooded coward of a white skinned mimic.
>>539213698>CSAMYou know somebody is a total NPC when they use made up newspeak terms like this
>>539226522ZlovakoCzechia is doing real good tooPretty much any other nation except the majority of post soviet cunts
>>539226830>chinadoubt>indiais not a neighbour of russiainstead of dishonestly setting the bar so low why not compare russia to its ex-commuinist european counterparts?
>>539213403The invasion
>>539226884I'd rather be in China these days
>>539226828But enough of your sick fantasies nafo troon. That story was CIA propaganda and Time had to print a retraction.But you know that.>https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/05/us/time-says-photographs-of-moscow-child-prostitutes-were-staged.html
>>539226984>why not compare russia to its ex-commuinist european counterparts?I literally did here >>539226522>>539226982>ZlovakoCzechiaええええええ I dunno about that です。
I saw we team up with Russia and kill the niggers.https://executiveconcern.substack.com/p/dead-water-d68
>>539227160in reality just about anywhere in europe is better than living outside of moscow and st pidorsburg. im not going to list everything because you can find it yourself but looking at rates of alcoholism, aids, murder, divorce, poverty, etc. russia falls well behind everywhere in europe, as well as china and many other asian countries. it is a failed state without a future, and is now having its nuclear policy dictated by china
>>539227160Mилo ми, жe мoглэм пaнa диcяй чeгocь нayчить, тo бѧдe 500 злoтых. дaeш дaeш
>>539227281Honestly, I would see myself living in Sankt Peter rather than in anywhere in USA, it got so stupid & reckless it's uncanny
>>539213403A good action does not make your bad action legitimate or less evil
>>539227417in muttland it's easy to make loads of money and isolate yourself from depravation
>>539227560I do ok money here and I prefer having our health systemI occasionally go to ward / doctors generally, I'd go broke there.I'd rather stay here, 100km away from Russia
>>539213403He didn't, gas prices did
Plus I have a Ruski years long fren in St Petersburg so I could have a place to visit. I have a fren in TX Houston too but I'd melt there.
>>539224995>ChristianityA heretical version that actively promotes war and bloodshed in a complete betrayal of Christ's gospel.>Traditional valuesWhat traditional values, alcoholism, organised crime, murder, lies?>Nuclear familyInsane rates of divorce and domestic abuse>Anti-troonism and anti-faggotoryThe same as in the US, this is just a way to satiate low IQ bigots. Cruel people can be distracted from how they're abused by the regime's theft and corruption so long as [insert denigrated minority here] suffers more. Russia will never get rid of gay or trans people so long as it has need of a scapegoat and a punching bag, notice how Putin doesn't criminalise being gay or trans, only certain aspects of it.>Top notch techNot even close, you're years behind first world nations and China on basically everything>Respect to elders and to yourselfAnd wanton cruelty to everyone else>Lack of suicidal empathy.Lack of empathy in society is not a positive trait. Ending up with a society that's wantonly cruel is not a better outcome than certain sections of society sometimes being too generous to immigrants and the like>Lack of GMO and abundance of natural productsPeople can buy natural products almost anywhere>Cheap home owning, groceries, and techStandard of living is streets behind almost anywhere in the EU
>>539213403Now Putin is bringing them back to squalor
>>539227796We get your point.You could have just told us you were a faggot and belive in all things degenerate.It would have been less wordy
>>539227872>points out da hoedina sucks>mentions gay sexEvery time, a zigger cant help itself
>>539228057Why do you feel the need to defend faggotry and degeneracy?
>>539214354There is no unified west anymore, those times are behind. The United States is going it's own path, while European Union keeps rotting from the inside until we solve the problem of our time.What comes to 'russophobia'; Of course there are those who hate russia and russians for no reason, but as of late it is well deserved. Attacking another country, which seems to be a trend, is seen as bad. Destroying so much and getting so little in return. Well, at least some get to die as 'heroes'.
>>539229286this is like saying the West isnt unified because greece hates rome
>>539229286Russofobia doesn't exist it's kremlin's attempt to ride the victimhood industry like jews, muslims, gays and whatever do by adding -fobia to anything.
>>539213403That humanitarian disaster was caused by men like Putin in the KGB, and he's driven your country right back into the same hole again.The gas station country doesn't even have gas anymore.
>>539213871>t. Gypsy of moscow
>>539213403Even with average or ugly faces, those girls are still pink and smooth skinned all over. I regret so much not living in that time, without faggy cameras and internet.
>>539213984>lmao but Epstein thrived in USA>Epstein list still thrives in USA>child trafficking is the USA topic
>>539213403>>539213403
>>539213403>>539213403>>539213403
>>539213403you're a delusional retard is you think the same thing isn't happening in russia right now
>>539234063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5VYBPb3d9c
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>>539222289you brought communism there in the first place
>>539213403>genuine humanitarian disaster in theHe literally caused it.Kgb ordered trucks with food to not delivery food in Russian part of USSR. Before 91, most of food from ru usssr went into east eu and Ukraine. After 91, kgb stole everything and was busy reselling soviet property to themselves (kgb) and Europe. P. literally stole all money that west send to russia. Ru newspapers cursed him before 2000.>The man that stole everything from st peter city
>>539213403Even now, kgb banned literally everything they can. Manga, novel, movies, ero content etcEverything is banned Kgb want's to create north korea 2.0Everyone except kgb will be slaves
This just makes me sad. Child's Innocence should be protected no matter how shitty the socioeconomic situation is. I didn't watch the video btwOnce was enough
>>539225196Estonia, Latvia, (Lithuania), PolandAll soon have comparable living standards to the Nordic countries, i.e. top of EuropeLithuania has a bit to go, but they have a lot of Russians still bogging it down. Meanwhile Russia is only better than some of the straight up arab nigger republics in caucasus
>>539213403becasue putin is a threat to their financial incomes
