Europe is such a fucking joke.India is one of the lowest IQ countries on earth and it mogs Euope's space program.Same thing with Russia, where a significant part of the population does not have access to a toilet.Seems like the last hope of western civilization is in fact the USA and I mean this unironically.Yeah, it needs to send jeets, chinks and beaners back. It needs to send niggers to Liberia like Lincoln intended.Maybe it should have a look at Switzerland (pretty much the only sane European country left except for micro states) to improve some things but in general to USA does have a future that could continue to be very bright, meanwhile Europe is unironically heading for the Dark Ages, again.
Jeet means sieg
Europe is not a country. Your economy is supposedly 20% bigger than indias, you should be much much more advanced than they are
>>539220240>Europe is such a fucking joke.Europe isn't, but the ZOGged (((European Union))) is.Liberate yourself from it. Make Europe Great Again.
>>539220240third worlder can't understand that wages influence a lot of the production costs.go back nigger
>>539220359>youLOL Germany was literally forbidden from researching this stuff.There was a private German company that built rockets and launch sites in the fucking Congo lolhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTRAGBut because of political pressure from France and the USSR it had to be shut down.That being said Germany no longer exists.Yes, there might be a state that bears this name in Europe and some Germans might still be living there, but spiritually that place is something totally else now.
>>539220583What the fuck are you on about?The USA has MUCH better wages for specialists that work (or worked) and the materials are much more expensive than the wages, in fact they pale in comparison.But there we go again, you guys can't take any criticism and will start the defend the EUSSR, the political entity that has ran you into the ground.That is exactly why the place is failing.
>>539220240If you seriously believe a nation of 67avg iq street shitting shit eaters have a space program then you are a retard. It's the ultimate proof it's all fake. Rocket ships to nowhere. They faked their launch even lmao
>>539220712>The USA has MUCH better wages for specialists that work (or worked) and the materials are much more expensive than the wages, in fact they pale in comparison.>the materials are more expensive than the wagesyes, every time.even if you build a single steel bolt
>>539220240>USSRSoviet propaganda>USAAmerican propaganda>ChinaCommunist propaganda >IndiaStreet shitting propagandaJeet thread btw
>>539221252I don't know.The jeets that make it into the US supposedly do have high IQs.Yeah, I know about the jeet who headed a cyber security agency in the US and leaked top secret info to ChatGPT, don't mention it.India seems to have a way to filter out there best from the pile of human trash that then become CEOs in America or head India's domestic space program.>>539221359You do not use simple steel bolts in space.You use specialized alloys.
>>539220240Should going to space really be a priority for India right now?
>>539220240Shut up Patel. Your space program was given to you by Russia. There's literally nothing you use that isn't western. Even your civilization model is a failed copy paste of the west. Too bad you live in jungle climate and this system doesn't work. Idiots
Only retards and browns went to space
Europe has sent and landed modules on the Moon, wtf are you talking about shitjeet?
>>539221511>I don't know Yes, that much is obvious. If you looked into it at all you would know they faked it with laughable cgi. You didn't and still post about it as real because you are a retard turk invader.
>>539221573That's my point.They need to conduct "Poo in the loo" propaganda to get their people not to shit in the street, yet they fly to the moon (supposedly).>>539221624Russia is yet another non-western, non-White, underdeveloped country that managed to land on the moon way before Europe.Doesn't disprove my point at all.
>>539220240Nobody ever landed on the moon, nigger. You're believing the same kikes that told you that Covid was as deadly as the pest kek
>>539221707Incorrect. The Americans landed on the Moon in 1969
>>539221693Well, the idea that their space program isn't real is just a conspiracy theory and any agency in the whole world would have to be in on it.I'm not aware of any country actually calling them out on bullshit.Is it possible that they faked their moon landing for propaganda purposes?Absolutely, but the idea that they have no space program is something I am not read to accept.The guys in charge seems to be Brahmins too.
>>539221728Proof? In before laughable Laurel canyon Kubrick fake footage. You gave away petrified wood and called them moon rocks. Aldrin said they never went too lmao
>>539221511>You use specialized alloys.which are made in the US with US wageslike i said.you are a retarded third worlder
>>539221827Turn off your vpn you aren't fooling anyone
>>539221857And these wages pale in comparison to the cost of the materials.Competent Germans went to America to fly to the moon.People like you stayed here.Now Europe can't get to the moon while street shtting nations can.Simple.
>>539221903are you fucking retarded>raw material a cost 10$>gets into a factoriy with a hourly wage of 80$ for 1 hours>refined Material A costs now 90$you fucking retard, every step in india costs 10Cents because they dont give a fuck about safety or environmental issues
>>539220240The Roseta program was pretty impressive.Vit that was when Britan was still in the EU albeit.
>>539220240India didnt actually land on the moon. Theyre a nation of scammers
>>539220240Europeans are very dumb, they are not going to survive. All their big ideas are against evolution laws and human nature. Take for example racial purity, this might be cool short term and result in nice pictures but in the long term you die put. Then take environmentalism and sustainability. This is even more stupid, no matter how much you will recycle your shit, we humans be design consume the environment and move on. If we focus on how to save the energy at the expense of the pace of the space exploration we lock ourselves on this planet like on Sentinel island and eventually will die out.
>>539221957For the sake of argument let's say you are right and labor costs trump material costs.Again, the USA has to highest wages for engineers in the whole world. Europe pays pennies in comparison.What is your excuse?>every step in india costs 10Cents because they dont give a fuck about safety or environmental issuesI highly doubt that they would be allowed to launch their spacecraft it it wouldn't be up to international standards.A simple bolt that comes loose could end up becoming orbital junk which is highly dangerous.
>>539222150you are fucking retardyou can't even grasp the concept of Value Chains and are trying to argument with others and seething pointless>But there we go again, you guys can't take any criticism and will start the defend the EUSSR, the political entity that has ran you into the ground.That is exactly why the place is failing.fucking retard
>>539220596That's the fun part. Many germans are still living there, they're just on retirement or close and simply don't care. Last decade has been a disaster and they just vote for the same shitters all over.
>>539222221The USA pays mich better for skilled labor than Europe does.If anything Europe has India's advantage in that labor is much cheaper.So what is your point? Why is that an excuse for Europe's backwardness?It's not just space either.Europe has no domestic semiconductor indstry to speak of.It's all in America or East Asia.Europe was good at mechanical engineering, but now that China is no longer buying German cars that industry is dying too.
>>539222817stop posting, you are a fucking retard
>>539222817If you like india so much - why dont you go there? You can take all your skilled indians-delivers who came to germany with you.
>>539221674>says the wop
>>539220240Why go to the moon? There's nothing there.
>>539222956You have no argument and thus you are resorting to insults.You sir are the retard.
You shouldn’t be proud of Indians getting to space, you should be angry. Angry that your government wastes all that money on space but won’t give you guys toilets and clean your streets
>>539223083nigger, you are goaposting because you want your shit thread keep going.i lesson i learned very early in my life, is not to talk with retards like they are humans.
>>539223137Im sorry anon but your clearly the retard here. Have a nice day
>>539223232>t.
>>539220596In the CURRENT negociation for an "european" army you made sure that france could not take part, that dassault would not benefit from it and you clearly are creating yet another Reich by making sure ONLY german company will benefit.I wonder why we don't trust you.Can't wait to nuke you, we, true french never forgave you for ww1.
>>539220240europeans are used to free riding in the last 70 years, they won‘t do shit
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>>539220240The real reason why Europe isn't on there is mainly due to the fact that our political situation doesn't allow the same flexibility that the US had with NASA. Individual countries in Europe are too small to independently develop and fund a moon program, and we missed out on the early spacerace due to our postwar struggle.With the budget that we do have, multi-funded by like 23? member states we have to strictly adhere to the strategic and economic focus of all members which is mainly sattelites and robotics because that's the best bang for the buck. Politically there's just no way to get all the sugar daddies to agree on a sheer achievement or scientific based moon mission, not when we can buy our way into other countries programs.It's not like we do nothing on the other hand, ESA has prestigious modern and unique projects. Like the ESM, which also got us 3 seats in the Lunar Gateway mission, the moonlight program and the Argonaut lander.We don't have to hide behind anyone, that's some decent effort we can be proud of.
what do you actually gain from landing on the moon? its just a vanity project
>>539220240Europe's focus is mostly on promoting "European values".
>>539220240this is true. i jist checked my iq and it came out to be 49. what he hell
In 1960s there was great excitement about moon exploration. This died out in 1970s when it became apparent it's just a lump of rock with nothing interesting or valuable there.(We now know the moon was made of Earth materials knocked into space by a big collision with another planet.This means there are no heavy elements are up there -- gold, silver, palladium, uranium, etc. Just lots of iron and magnesium, which are worthless.)
>>539220240Europe is a victim of ZOG unfortunately. The EU exists to make everyone suffer
>>539220240What... having a group of corrupt bitches on every face of high offices without any authority to remove legally kneecapping Europe? Damn anon are you perhaps a russian conspiracy theorist?
>>539220240How many countries did India develop in the last 2000 years? 0 Now do that for Europe and you will understand why they are in such a weak state.
>>539223904And true Hungarians never forgave France for the mutilation you did either. Eat nigger shit pier
>>539224594It's a hard sell but in theory and if you don't mind some scifi speculation, the moon has massive amounts of rare earth metals. Helium 3 and Ice too. Strategically it has the potential to become a world-dominating asset both for military and economic reasons.In a far futurebit might even become a gateway to the rest of our solar system by producing rocket fuel directly on the moon.
>>539225152*around the world
>>539225260>t. not even hungarianShut your whore gyppo mouth.
>>539224999This is utterly wrong and a massive misconception.
>>539225267ESA is prestigious as you said, it just doesn't have the marketing of hollywood.
>>539225267im sorry, but this is just a boyhood dream tier meme. there is no real reason to go to the moon. certainly not for 'rare earth metals'. which, despite the name, are not rare at all. You can start digging in your backyard right now and undoubtedly, given enough time, find some. The problem is that it is shitty, dirty, labour-intensive work and once you have it it's not even worth a lot of money per kiloton. You then have the dirty job of extracting and refining it and then sell it to someone who actually makes a lot of money by using it to make a nice product that people want. This is why we moved this industry to the chinks and why now the chinks are moving this industry to Africa. The moon lacks cheap labour for delving its resources. Again: it's just a gay meme.
Moon as gateway to other planets is actually interesting idea. But first you need to properly explore other planets, which isn't happening.
>>539225885Platinum, Gold, Titanium, Silver, Palladium, Neodymium, Lanthanum, Dysprosium... KREEP rocks are also enriched with Uranium and Thorium. Not even talking about having an out of atmosphere sourcenof iron, magnesium, oxygen and hydrogen.You are legit retarded little dutchman.
>>539226124youre listing resources that we have plenty of on earth, far more on the moon, that are easier and cheaper to extract. your frustration with being unable to address this argument has led you to resort to ad hominem insults. I accept your concession
Ok if accepted theory of moon formation is correct how did heavy elements like gold get up there?Heavy elements would have stayed on earth or quickly fallen back to earth, while lighter elements went into orbit and formed the moon.(Note that heavy elements like this can only be made in stars. You don't make them by smashing planets together.)
>>539226583>that are easier and cheaper to extractSome. Others aren't. It could change in the future. The wonderful thing about the moon is that all of these ressources are pretty much available in the soil and crust, close to the surface.In return, heavy elements are vastly cheaper snd more feasible to directly source from the moon instead of shooting them up with rockets. You conveniently ignored that and you're still a little retard.
>>5392266764 billion years of asteroids mostly.
>>539220240>tries to stir shit blaming geoengineering on the individual populacedoubt that nigger is german
>>539220240rosetta was impressive than whatever the jeets did on the moon anyway
