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China is about to open source another fable-5 level model for absolutely free
How long before drumpf goes nuclear on open source AI
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>>539223632
OpenAI and Anthropic strategy is to spook everyone with muh chink backdoors
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America imported a gorillion jeets to help them establish AIslop supremacy, chinks distilled it all and opensourced it
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Whats with China making everything free? This is anti capitalist behavior and it sickens me.
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>>539223632
>>539223752
They are trying to tank Nvidia stock. The last time they did this the US government went feral it was hilarious. So many senators and congressmen had been betting on that.
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>>539223632
Dump won't do shit, he occupied by Iran
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>>539223632
>>539223729
>>539223735
>claims that werent made
>another low effort amerimutt bot thread to justify samefagging amerimutt bugmen to spam and recycle vapid distracting amerimutt cope taking points while amerimutts are getting blown up by drones, amerimutts are flushed down the rivers and the amerimutts regime is openly scamming the stock market
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>>539223729
Sharts were soft launching an Arab AI ban, I had resigned myself to a future of Pissraeli 'qualitative AI edge' where I ask opus how to tie my shoelaces and it redirects me to haiku 0.5 because shoelaces can be used to choke kikes
China legit saved our hairy asses im really glad
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>>539223632
>How long before drumpf goes nuclear on open source AI
You know that's impossible.
No one turns down something for free,even if you pass a law banning it, people will still use it on the sly.
Besides, it's just an AI mode,it's not like it's drugs.
Hope you like our model, Iraq bro.
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>>539224013
Appreciate it broski
Installed some solar panels, dirt-cheap and I dont have to worry about war
Now im just waiting for cheap chinese VRAM to hit the market
Long live zhongguo
(Censored because im a paranoid fuck)
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>>539223952
AI anything isnt a distraction from American politics, its economy is bound to all the money borrowed for the AI build out.
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>>539224482
This. So many richfags have gone all in on AI here. It’s why every single graduation speaker mentioned it for no reason. They were just trying to recruit bag holders
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>>539223752
>This is anti capitalist behavior
It's much more serious than that, it's anti-semitic.
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>>539224432
>Now im just waiting for cheap chinese VRAM to hit the market
EU has started walling itself off with import tariffs and taxes, we're fucked even if chinks started flooding market with cheap hardware.
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>>539224432
>Installed some solar panels
I’m glad this solves your power supply issue.
Green energy has become the Chinese government’s most important strategic initiative for the next 20 years.
This is because our politicians realize that, due to economic and technological challenges, it’s nearly impossible for many countries to invest in large-scale infrastructure the way China does. Investing in power plants and power grids is too expensive and takes too long. They simply cannot afford these costs.
Solar panels, on the other hand, are a great solution.
Ordinary people can simply purchase affordable solar panels to immediately power their own homes.
It’s cheaper and more efficient.
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>>539223998
Kek, how dystopian.
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>>539223632
We need more Jeet-1B visas
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>>539224562
Refer to >>539223998
You are enjoying a golden age with zero rules, 20 dollars and you get access to something that could be categorized as a mini-nuke with zero limitations if you can restructure sentence, AI is obscenely powerful nobody has explored the full extent of its capabiltiies even a year ago. I meme jeets all the time for e=mc+ai but this tech is only second to the internet in importance.
Right now owning your compute for local models, the electricity for it and having strong data privacy is so unimaginably important. Any state or collection of states who doesn't invest in strong local AI capabilities and embeds itself crucially in a supply line while securing some local producitoon will get left in the dust.
Do you really have such short memory? Just a month ago America banned Europe from Fable 5 access, Anthropic told you you could have that ban lifted 'but we gotta discuss'. Discuss hampering Mistral, they stopped because China scared them straight with local models. Forget the state what if for being on /pol/ right now they ban you(you) off of anthropic and chatgpt? What will you do? Think about it.
Europe is sleepwalking under this kike whore von der leyen.
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>>539224858

More ching chong story telling. How is that deflation spiral going?
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>>539226803
I went off course but in relation to what you said AI trusters are the ones who see the world straight still.
>>539224858
Yeah I get it. We tried to do some deals with China iirc 2019 or 2018 to build tons of things power plants modern schools etc but America immediately blocked them. It was miserable. After that we tried Siemens Electric and America again blocked the deal. Now they did a 'memorandum of understanding' with us where they 'pledge' to build shit for us and train local experts over the course of 20 years lmao those experts will just get brain drained anyway. We need independance and only China could help in that area.
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>>539226803
>something that could be categorized as a mini-nuke
fucking retard
jesus christ im quitting /pol/ for the day specifically because of how fucking retarded you are
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>>539223632
>token
aaaaaand it's bricked
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>>539223632
I have a theory that governments have had these AIs for a long ass time and are just now releasing them to the gen pop. China is just releasing the higher end model first to look fancy and force US to follow suite.
Think about it
>collect all data via patriot act
>have to organize data and flag data
>not enough people
They were using ai
If AI was really that powerful, why would they let everyone have it if they didn't have something better?
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>>539227231
>AI psychosis
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>>539227591
Im tired of this shit, fucking Linus is backing AI but 4chinners think they know better than him and John Ratcliffe.
>>539227307
Maybe, Google hasn't released a video model in months.
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>>539228062
Linus is right, CIA just want to regulate heavily so only elites have access to AI, and goyim plebs are left behind without modern tools.
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>>539228138
Not just out of maliciousness, AI is hugely dangerous with the amount of no-no info it has picked up and gives people access to. But yes they also wanted a retarded AI and chips monopoly.
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Open source is 1 third of the strategy.
The 2nd third is China will offer education, 5000 slots of free a.i. engineering students for SCO members, BRICS members, and generally apllicants from Africa, South America, South east Asia, and Arabia.

The 3rd third of the strategy is to make the equipment affordable. They are working on SSD and DRAM at the moment, which needs crazy amounts of volume after the Mutts and Koreans have decided to cartel-manipulate the world market.

But seriously though, China needs to rethink the 2nd step, and exclude india from the program. Nothing good will come from helping a backstabbing rat.
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>>539228062
I think this is also why they are able to push jeets. They model already exists and even a retarded jeet could launch it
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>>539223632
The tears of OpenAI and Anthropic execs are great.
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>>539223729
They are doomed.

On the one side you have Chinese producing the same quality AI, but without the massive debt, and giving it away for free.

On the other Elon stole all the dummies money with the SpaceX IPO and will force Grok to the top by just making it way cheaper than any other closed American model.
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>>539223729
>REEEEEE! YOU HAVE TO PAY THE TOKENS!

Lol, americans you keep banking billionaires until the end
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>>539223632
i prefer to masturbate using my imagination instead of ai, so i dont care about this useless tech that China has to steal because theyre not smart enough to make anything on their own.
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>>539233459
>China stole their the technology from the jews that's why the Chinese model is so much better than the jewish one
Lol you must be a big Peter Zion fan
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I only know this basic bitch Qwen vl 30b from the Brave browser integration, but it does the job for simple tasks and information gathering just as well as comparable western models. I don't really have a huge insight in all of the latest models and all of the intricacies of the US/China AI race, but I like the fact that China is keeping the shady western AI companies on their toes. It keep them in line, they are getting arrogant and as hell. I hope China helps to burst the AI bubble by developing groundbreaking alternatives that are far less resource hungry. This US AI bullshit is not sustainable and the sooner this retarded gold rush ends, the better. US normies should be the first who cheer for a major course correction while the backlash is still manageable. It would also dampen this data center lunacy.
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>>539223632
USA should have open-sourced instead of being jews
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>>539233880
The most powerful and cost-effective solutions will sooner or later emerge on top. The US can try to play party pooper and aggressively nudge companies in their direction, but this only goes so far. In the end, the best models will take over the market, and if it isn't an American model, so be it. Nobody will put themselves at a competitive disadvantage just to use American models, even if the US will try to insist in their typical charming fashion. I welcome similarly strong models from different countries, I was hoping that Europe might catch up and have a seat at the table, bit I'm not holding my breath in the foreseeable future.
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Sure are a lot of weird foreign flags in this thread!
I guess the dirty dumb Chinks spent all their money training their open source models, and have to use the non-premium VPNs today.

This is called "dumping," where the slants flood the world with their inferior shit so cheap kikes kike out and use it. Then, when they have the market cornered, they start charging.

Not that anyone in this thread will care, since it 's all chinks and their dirty indian employees.
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>>539223632
Can they please just open-source a grok-tier video generator? I'll let it run for an hour, I don't care about how long it takes. I just want that quality in my own hands.
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>>539223729
Using open source = you lose your privacy and everybody gets spied on.
If you want to keep your privacy, you need to stick with the closed source corpo models. Nobody respects your privacy more than Big Tech
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>>539234661
>Oh noooo! If the chinks release an open source AI then our Jewish AI CEOs won’t get to profit!
Cry me a fuckin’ river about it
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What the FUCK is "open weight"? What happened to open source?
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>>539237417
It's not source code. It's an AI model with weights. There is no "source" to open.
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>>539237417
Open weight means the software package is available and the weight is available. You can dissect, distill, self host, and even fine tune and retrain it to your needs. However the training data and the source code is not available, as that is the secret sauce.

As opposed to OpenAI and Anthropic, where they host the software and you pay to access a chat portal or API.
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>>539223632
not the first time jews give the chinese tech & military secrets—
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>>539237647
they are helping the eastern bloc since the cold war to keep an even playing field & keep the goyim fighting amongst one another forever—
today its for the purpose of making china & communism seem like a viable alternative while at the same time they destroy the west—
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>>539237614
What jews. Deepseek trained on chatgpt output this is well known.
Stop fucking EM dashing retard
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>>539235740
Execute both participants in this conversation.
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>>539237564
Fake and gay, open source is and has been for years a colloquialism for many things that do not have source. Muh super intelligence strawberry spelling chatbot isn't special enough to warrant its own term.
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>>539223632
what are you talking about, china cant even make their own gpus without white mans engineering—
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If this is communism then why do us brokies complain about it?
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>>539237417
It's the AI equivalent of freeware since the model weights (.safetensor) are technically a compiled output, not a source, so pedants raise a stink when they're called "open source". The counterargument is the inference code is what's open source and the weights are data, not instructions, so don't count one way or the other.
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>>539234661
>floods the market and jacks up the price
>still cheaper than western ai models
What nou?
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>>539234661
On the side of the market US is locking us out of previously 'cheap shit' with magic money and tech protectionism, asking us to pay rent for controlled model access and requiring us to sing the israeli national anthem in perfect hebrew.



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