> Mother and homos enter contract over guardianship over a potential 3rd person.> 3rd person gets "produced" and "delivered".> Homos pay mother money who then gives up natural guardianship rights.Where's the Supreme Court when you need it?
>>539226136>contractual consensual agreement>slavey
>>539226354>>contractual consensual agreementSlave owners and slave sellers entered consensual contractual relationships as well.That's what the civil war was about: The South didn't accept that the gvt should have the power to overwirte voluntarily entered private contracts.
>>539226136There was that one gay guy who abused kids. It's not a good idea.
>>539226425>Slave owners and slave sellers entered consensual contractual relationships as well.the slaves didn't.you are retarded.
Parents that conceive children themselves are still paying for the birth in other ways. Is having a child at all slavery?
>>539227963> the slaves didn't.That's my point. The child produced for surrogacy also don't.> you are retarded.I'm (OP) and (You) are retarded.
>>539228482>Parents that conceive children themselves are still paying for the birth in other ways. Is having a child at all slavery?Go take your meds retard. Or maybe quit doing so.
All religions except for Judaism were made by homosexuals/trannies/pedophiles/other degenerates. That's why they all have this anti straight male behavior with stupid shit like abstaining from sex, asceticism, etc. Cui bono? Degenerates who aren't interested in straight sex anyway. Just use your brains you fucking iddiots.I like pluralism, but just to be honest guys, all of your religions are shit and you are all cattle. Your souls are literally one rung above animals, you don't have the same souls as Jews, you're npc's.
>>539226136How do the homos decide, who gets to reproduce?
Think about how often you masturbate. Even married men masturbate, wanting to use women as fuckholes.From this, we can deduce that most ancient and medieval Christians were trannies like pic related.>>Hello class, let me teach you theology.>>The law doesn't matter, you just have to believe in Jesus>>Be inclusive, there is no Jew or Greek, even though Jews are Negroid and Greeks are Aryan. Race mixing is good.>>Hashtag respect women. Don't punish women for adultery>>Hashtag believe women- Mary was a virgin!>>By the way, premarital heterosexual sex is now sinful (so based religious people like me are saints)The early christians were trannies!
>>539229149>From this, we can deduce that most ancient and medieval Christians were trannies like pic related.You are projecting and it's disgusting.
Christianity started as an anti heterosexual coalition. It makes it harder for straight men to get sex while removing penalties for roasties and for gays. Yes a lot of life is about sex, and in this case, the sexual preference of women and gays.Furthermore, it purposefully tries to bring in racial aliens to incorporate into the anti heterosexual male "coalition of the weak."* This is why Christianity necessarily destroys your race.Eventually, the homo perverts come out of the woodwork and they openly manifest, like we see now.If you care about race at all, whether your own race or the preservation of racial diversity worldwide, Christianity is EVIL.
>>539228517>That's my point. The child produced for surrogacy also don't.children do not get to choose their parents.
In Judaism it is 100% illegal to castrate anyone, even your enemy.Christisnity is a tranny cult just like the Cult of Cybele
>>539226354>if you are born into slavery you wont even notice you are a slave
Gay peole are evil pieces of shit who push war and conflict if you forbid their practices.And Nazi RACISM But if Russia let them take over, they wpuld flood with migrants on purpose
>>539229338Same in Christianity, in fact Origen was denied sainthood, famously to this day, becaus he chopped his balls off.
>>539229334> children do not get to choose their parents.In a sense god choses them. More grounded I would say parenthood is a natural biological consequence of intercourse. This means the parents have not the right, but an obligation to take care of their offspring.
>>539230504i don't really care about your hurt feelings anon. sure, you think that the world ought to be a certain way, but why should i give a shit?unless you can establish some reason why i ought to care, i don't. and frankly, it's fucking stupid that you do. it's not your kid and not really any of your fucking business
>>539230690>i don't really care about your hurt feelings anon. sure, you think that the world ought to be a certain way, but why should i give a shit?Tell me you're in favor of slavery, without telling me you're in favor of slavery.
>>539231461children don't get to choose their parents.
>>539231856> children don't get to choose their parents.Children need caretakers until they reach a certain age. Parents have an obligation to act as caretakers of their children. Reason is parents create their children. There's no transaction involved, only creation followed by obligation.As soon as you add another step in this process, it's slavery.
>>539232002>Parents have an obligation to act as caretakers of their childrenincorrect. parents have an obligation to ensure their children are cared for. and even this obligation is not unlimited.
>>539226136Your points would be valid if this was ownership and not guardianship. The kids can still be taken away, it has all the human rights any normal child would. Your scenario would have the kids be tied to the gay parents forever, it's not. The kid can decide to be rebellious and even at like age 0 child protective services can take it away. >>539230504The state says the parents have an obligation to take care of this kid and if they can't it gets taken away. There is literally nothing in this "slavery" about this.It's only slavery if you comprehend existence as such. But the kids got spawned and then lived with the dude. The "gods" chosen parents intercourse still happened, the gay guy and the mom had the kid. She is his biological mother, the gay dad is his dad it's just a kid going to live with his dad day 1.
>>539232002>A slave is a person who is legally owned by another, stripped of personal freedom, and forced to perform labor or services without fair compensation.A kid is not owned by them, you could argue it's the opposite the gays are slaves to the child as they will get no compensation for raising but they're legally obligated to. There is no forced labor preformed by the child.There is fair compensation on the mothers part, not different if there was a divorce and the father got custody but the mother is freed of paying child support.I don't know what bad german weed you're smoking but pleases stop smoking it. You germans are supposed to be the logical ones.
Why do gays only ever adopt boys?
Gay adoption and surrogacy is simple child trafficking
Surrogacy is evil in itself, but it's extra vehemently evil when gay do it for grooming purposes
>>539232336We all know.
>>539226136We are all slaves to the Demiurge
>>539232161> even this obligation is not unlimited.Of course it's not unlimited. This is what orphanages and adoption is for.The crucial difference is there is not financial transaction in play, but high prerequisites for both a child taken out of a family as well as when it's given into a new family.Surrogacy circumvents these thresholds and replaces them with money. That's by definition slavery.
>>539232716>>The crucial difference is there is not financial transaction in play,this is a lie. adoption and placement in an orphanage often involves fees.
>>539232164>There is literally nothing in this "slavery" about this.The aspect of slavery comes into play when money supercedes norms and regulations that define when a child is taken out of a family and also when it it put into a new family.Replacing this limited & strictly regulated process with a large amount of money turns the entire process into an instance of SLAVERY.
>>539226136gays should not be allowed to procure children to rapewe understand they want to procreate, but child molestation is wrong and we dont care that its their only method of procreation, its not ok
>>539229078>All religions except for Judaism were made by homosexuals/trannies/pedophiles/other degenerates, that's why most of them in history killed fags instead of promoting them like the jews doyou deserve a trip to jewish heavenright straight to the furnace
>>539232779>Replacing this limited & strictly regulated processIt's in no way limited or strictly regulated.If you parents die your grandparents get you, if they're dead aunt or uncle gets your, it's a chain if responsibility with no accountability. It's in no way limited. Guardian ship is strictly regulated but only if it's visible from the outside. Child abuse etc as reported by the community. This child is staying in the family. The father is the father they're not making random babies, one of the gays is giving half of his DNA. It's legally his child and his family and the mother simply abandons the child.There tons of pseudo mass child graves from medival period where people didn't only get rid of still borns but also unwanted children that they couldn't afford to feed or had some genetic defect or such. None of this is slavery. The father is the father and hes paying off the mother to fuck off.
>>539226136>How is this not slavery?It is.>>539226354The baby didn't consent to be raised by degenerate pedophiles. Nor did it consent to have it's biological mother and father withheld so mentally ill people can LARP as parents. If faggots want to pretend to be parents there are plenty of Cabbage Patch dolls they can buy.
>>539229334>children do not get to choose their parents.And faggots don't get to own other people's children.
>>539233208>None of this is slavery. The father is the father and hes paying off the mother to fuck off.no, the father is a faggot and he's procuring a child to eventually rape along with his partner faggothoping of course to produce another faggot for the world, and they all know from experience that getting molested by a faggot when you're young is the #1 way to make someone a faggotfaggots reproduce by child molestation and they should all be thrown into a furnace
>>539232770> this is a lie. adoption and placement in an orphanage often involves fees.Don't play stupid. For one, never heard about fees and it's probably an exception, and then it's about the profit motive in surrogacy vs cost covering expenses. But again: Never heard of orphanages charging money. They normally live off donations and gvt money.
>>539233208mostly non sequitur
>>539229574Didn't Jesus specifically say outright to cut off your body parts if they cause you to sin?Christians are so confusing
>>539233594>Don't play stupidokay.in australia it's unlawful to pay for surrogacy services. surrogacy can only be done gratis. therefore, by your own logic, you are required to not have any objections to that practice.but you still do. i guarantee it.your argument is a pretext for bigotry. you are lying to me and you are lying to yourself when you make this argument because you find the raw truth unpalatable: you hate gay people, you find them disgusting, and you want to hurt them. you are a bad person who feels good when you are cruel to other human beings. you don't like that about yourself, so you make up these illogical bullshit arguments to hide behind, but when the arguments fail - as yours just has - you will simply make up more because you don't care about being right, you only care about enabling your cruelty and your vices.i won't post again.
>>539233656>Didn't Jesus specifically say outright to cut off your body parts if they cause you to sin?nah that's some jewish pharisee bullshit from the council of nicea trying to get you to cut your dick off
>>539233954>you only care about enabling your cruelty and your vices.look at this abbo defending gay pedophiles ability to procure and rape children
>>539233954>surrogacy can only be done gratis. therefore, by your own logic, you are required to not have any objections to that practice.I'm not arguaging against for free surrogacy, because it doesn't exist. There is no incentive for women to become pregnant just to give away the child. Non-paid surrogacy only happens when the woman is already pregnant, doesn't want to or can't abot the child, but doesn't want to raise it. I don't see any ethical problems in such (rare!) cases if the pregnant mother seeks out a foster family.> your argument is a pretext for bigotry. So what? Since when is bigotry illegal? I have rights and I will defend them, you fucked up deranged totalitarian cunt!
>>539232251>A kid is not owned by them, you could argue it's the opposite the gays are slaves to the child as they will get no compensation for raising but they're legally obligated to.Is then sex slavery ok as long as she has regular orgams?
>>539226136sounds like the handmaid's tale with homos and money
