>majority ethnic Russia>majority want to be part of Russian Federation>Home of pro-Russia revolt by local militasIts pretty clear they do not want to be Ukrainian, so just let them go.
>>539227852Ukraine is under the control of gay commissars and they want to take down Putin. It is part of the international gay conspiracy. They want war
You have to understand how gays operate. They purposely instigated this war
>>539227852>Why Do Hohols want the Donbass anywayseBecause of the territory and the resources. You're right that the people living there don't matter to them at all.
The US government deepstate is all gays, and then they give money to all the gay opposition to Putin, like meduza, ukrainian nazis, etc.It's a war of gays against humanity. They want to force everyone to be gay. You need to exterminste the gays.
>>539227852this is an uncomfortable question therefore>VPN of HIVan
>>539227852Why dont you ceede Texas to mexico?
>>539227852>why do need texas anyway>>majority want to be part of Bharat>>Home of pro-jeet shit eating
>>539228157YES, I Will give Mexico all of the land we took in 1848 if it means I don't have to see another beaner for the rest of my life. Unlike Hohols I actually wnat a homogenieous ethnostate, I don't wan tto rule over other peoples or have them in my country.
>>539227852and there goes new mexico, good job OP
>>539227852It's about victory denial.Just like Iranians refusing to give their uranium is about not giving Trump a victory he could paradeIt's very important because if they manage to do that, they think Putin will inevitably fall from power due to perceived failure
>>539227852The Tsar told an American, a Frenchman, and a Ukrainian that no matter how long they could gallop across the field on horseback, all that land was theirs. So the American gallops for an hour, two, then looks back: "Oh, this will be enough for me and my descendants to last a lifetime!"The Frenchman gallops on. An hour, two, three, four—he touches his horse: "Oh, no, the horse is tired, and this land is enough for me." The Ukrainian gallops on. An hour, two, three. A day, two days have passed, the horse, exhausted, is about to collapse. He gets up and runs—runs—runs, but his strength fails him and he falls backward to the ground, takes off his cap and throws it forward, shouting: "And that's for tomatos!!"
>>539228336Then you can give away the entire country since americans are in a minority anyway.
>>539228654t retard
>>539227852>>majority ethnic Russiathey can go home>>majority want to be part of Russian Federationthey can g ohome>>Home of pro-Russia revolt by local militasNot their home, they can go home
>>539227852Ukraine had a major port in Mariupol that threatened Crimea, although that's pretty moot now that Ukraine proved it can control the Azov Sea with cheap drones.Yes, Putin is that obsessed with Crimea.
>>539230067>go home go home go homewhen will you go home bernard bohdan abdul aliti
>>539227852The same reason croshits and bosnianiggers wanted serb majority areas, pure spite and seething.If they just let em go war wouldnt even happen but the ego on these fake nation cunts is always off the charts.
>>539230067>they can go homethey have, ukraine responded by having a meltdown and bombing them for 8 years
>>539228465Your joke is not good
>>539230067It's their home, you tard.All of Ukraine has always been Russian clay.Kiev is the first Russian capital.All East Slavs are either Russian or Russians who felt in love with their Austrian captors which converted to Catholicism.
>>539230067the Donbass is their home
>>539227852It's about geopolitics. Everyone thinks Crimea is the #1 prize to rule over the region.
>>539227852The Donbas is by far the most precious region of The Ukraine.Even when Hohols were willing to leave it to Russians, the EUSSR still insisted on occupying it.
>>539233674this, it's all an EU thing because they desperately need the resources to become more self-sufficient. Doesn't hurt that many of the right wing groups have worked themselves into a fetish about destroying Russia, but without the EU push they'd just be complaining around their forest campfires.
>>539227852You can make the same post about most of the ukraine
>>539230067>they can go homeActually Ukraine was really butthurt when we started issuing passports to Ukrainians emigrants. I remember even before 2014 people would just destroy their Ukrainian passports to get a Russian passport by pretending to be Russian, because it was much easier than trying to do it legally.>>539233674It was important until it fell apart in the 1990s and 2000s. Right now, they're just empty abandoned factories with all their equipment sold for scrap and flooded mines. I lived most of my life right on the border with Ukraine and news about yet another mine being flooded was practically a monthly occurrence.
>>539228398Wait why are you posting this and not on the frontline?
>>539230067Didn't they try that? Then a gau kike and his amerigolems attacked them
>>539227852Umm because it's part of their internationally recognized territory? It's also the some of the most fertile farmland in thw qorld. By this logic, all the ethnic Mexicans in the American southwest should be able form separatist groups armed and funded by Mexicans and attempt to join Mexico. You can't be this retarded now, can you?
>>539227852none of your points are true. which makes you either, a lying pig or a misinformed retard, or both.
>>539227852If only this Russophone Jew would've won, then he could've stopped the insane anti-Russian discrimination. Oh wait...
>>539235190why aren't you in a trench right now?
>>539227852>Its pretty clear they do not want to be Ukrainian, so just let them go.it can't get any worse than being russian. besides, if russia can't protect these areas, maybe ukraine deserves to take them?
>>539227852Better question is why Russia needs it .>>539228465Only you don't have a Tsar anymore. You have Pynya and his Jew friends.
>>539235702>water crisis in donbass>t. pro-ukrainian news outlet
>>539227852>>539227938>>539227983I’m not sure if there is a slavic word that fully encompasses “imbecile” but you definitely make some good examples.My advice: Read a fucking book.Every three generations the muscovites head west, butt-fucking their way from village to steal anything not nailed down, and if it is nailed down they fuck it. This has gone on for CENTURIES. I know it, you know it, Pidor Pidorovich knows it. Why should Ukraine keep two of the states in their country? Wow. What a difficult question. Seeing that Russia’s pattern of wiping out populations and backfilling with poor people and чypки worked throughout the Cold War and especially after the Soviet Union fell, imagine their surprise when their senile Georgian leader couldn’t take Ukraine?I hope you enjoy winning as much as the “limitless” asian men enjoy living in Moskow you fucking imbeciles. Putin has destroyed any chance Russia had. And it could have been great.
>>539235805why won't uncle pypa help them?
>>539235924Help with what? A fictional news story?
>>539235702that's absolutely retarded, Ukraine can't take them, but even if in your fanfic they could, Russia could make them unlivable and so since Ukraine couldn't protect them they would deserve to go to Russia.
>>539236009>everything I don't like is propaganda>>539236031>Russia could make them unlivableit's already unlivable exactly because russia is thereit was pretty livable before russia invaded though.
>>539235805They have problems with water in Donetsk you dumb shit even the most popular propaganda channels like (((Soloviev))) talk about it all the time.
>>539235842>>539236078ЭTOT.Suck it, Pidor Pidorovich. Take your 5₽ and go blind on shitty bathtub vodka. Don’t waste it on a VPN next time.
>>539227852There's no "ukraine", it's all Russia. ALL of it.
>>539234757>flooded minesJust unflood them? Does being filled with water permanently damage them in some way. (I don't know anything about mining despite having relatives who were miners)
>>539227852I can already tell we have decades of this war ahead because Zaporizhzhya and Kherson are to be fully liberated under Putin’s minimum concessions of the Donbas and the Russian army is barely in those regions yet.
>>539238724It isn't a linear process but it will last for years.The war length is better measured in how many males can Kiev still draft and at what pace the Russians kill them rather than frontline changes.Dead men can't hold a front.
>>539227852If Russians were humans and you could make deals with them then I suspect Hohols would give Donbass & Crimea for permanent peace and their independence (joining EU & NATO). Russia is not just going for ethnic Russian areas, it's always been bullshit
>>539227852because it's part of ukraine and the russians are stealing it. so they want to have it instead of them. they're especially encouraged by the fact that russia is really struggling to steal it, so it makes them want to reclaim it even more.
>>539227852>please let us winYou've reached a new low, zigger
>>539239616good point. if russia was strong, and powerful, and in a good strategical position, then the question:>why do the hohols want the donbas (and the other regions also occupied)becomes irrelevant. because, they have no say in the matter.as soon as you ask the question, you have become the side trying to barter and negotiate. a sign he knows it isn't going russia's way.
>>539227852the leadership want it for natural resources. the goyim soldiers want it because their leaders brainwashed them with national pride against their own racial brothers
>>539227852hi zigger its because russia literally shipped russia-loyal civilians from russia into the region more and more over time, but you knew that alreadyimagine texas got 5 million indians then the state "suddenly" voted to secede and be part of india, you'd say "well most of the state speaks hindi already, whats the issue?" its so weird how we seem to understand sovereignty and subterfuge when it comes to kikes and browns, but russians get a pass for some reason
>>539227852Probably because their government was co-opted by jewish puppets and loyal goyim who are getting paid off by jewmericans and jewropeans. k/opers need to pretend that 2014-2022 never happened and that zelensky, arestovich, nuland, blinken and co are not jewish parasites' but homegrown White Christians boys and girls fighting the Putlermort menace.
>>539230067they are home
>>539240230omg yes get those heckin azov nazis
>>539227852why did Lincoln want Mississippi?
>>539227852It's their clay by their right russia agreed upon. It's just theirs legally. Stop trying to steal it hivan
>>539240279>nazis>look inside>it's jewishmany such cases
>>539227852>Its pretty clear they do not want to be Ukrainian, so just let them go.If they don't want to be Ukrainian, they should've emigrated.
>>539227852>majority ethnic RussiaSeems like they should be living in Russia then>majority want to be part of Russian FederationNothing is stopping them from moving to the Russian federation then>Home of pro-Russia revolt by local militasSeems like they should have been expelled back to Russia before they got too uppity then>Its pretty clear they do not want to be UkrainianThen why are they living in Ukraine?> so just let them go.I don't think anyone was stopping them from going to Russia
>>539240960Thoughts on Kosovo?
>>539241007I have never spent a second of my life thinking about the West Balkans.
>>539240743they did. they made their soil no longer ukrainian soil
>>539240398didnt putin say he is spiritually jewish and cited denazifying ukraine as a goal? also doesnt this non argumentative memetic disinfo warfare get tiring? like very very clearly ukrainian sovereignty is being violated here lol you just think its based because you think ukraine represents some sort of jewish globohomo orthodoxy but what you dont realize is that putin represents nigger monkey who would flag plant on your brain if you lived next door to him
>>539241058That's fine, don't strain yourself
>>539240960They are in Russia faggot, that entire region was Russia before the commies broke it off and made a fake nation like they did to every empire/kingdom the red bastards touched.How about those who dont wanna be russian just move to the west?Same shit happened here, these scummy little fake nations and fake peoples break off from big Empires and Kingdoms then try to boot out ethnic people who lived there for centuries.It's the prime example of "cry as you strike them", extremely jewish and faggy.
>>539240960they are living in russia. donetsk and lugansk are part of russia
>>539227852jews desire control over all.
>>539227852>>majority ethnic Russia>>majority want to be part of Russian Federation>>Home of pro-Russia revolt by local militasAll of this untrue
>>539227852>Why Do Hohols want the Donbass anywaysethey dont want it^which is why they dont care if they lose the land anyway.they simply want to trade 2.5 million ukrainian male lives for the chance to embarrass Putin in front of nato and just generally make him look stupid and what not
>>539227852Why do you want alaska?
>>539241097I didn't read your post, but that's a lot of words to say you're gay. you should move to the ukraine because it's gay
>>539241115>>539241118Russia lost sovereignty over those lands, reality is what it is and not what Russians wished it to be.And Russians will continue to be slaughtered until the message is clear.
>>539241156Cope
>>539227852>majority ethnic Russia>blah-blah-blahevery word is a lieIt was 58% ethnic Ukrainian, 38% russian before 2014. Now it's probably 60% muslim.
>>539228453>It's very important because if they manage to do that, they think Putin will inevitably fall from power due to perceived failureZERO FUCKING CHANCE^ for the exact same reasonlmao imagine extirpating youre entire male population born 1980-1995 to *FAIL* to cause Russia to vote out Putin
>>539241292Russian and ukranian = same ethnicity. What makes them differ is language. Refer to this, langley mutt >>539241257
>>539241248russia lost sovereignty, by gaining sovereignty. fantastic post. how does this cope stop the ukraine from losing?
>>539237990Many mines require constant water pumping to prevent flooding. When they are closed mines eventually flood. Reversing the process is, at best very expensive and, at worst practically impossible due to the water damage. That's why the idea that someone is fighting over resources is simply ridiculous. Extracting and processing resources in present-day Ukraine would be more expensive than anywhere else, even without factoring in the costs of war.
>>539240743>If they don't want to be ukrainian, they should've emigrated.lmao, they did, and took the land with them and now the land is Russian
>>539241248lmao ukraine will never ever under any circumstance recover 'the 1991' bordersnot ever
>>539241257>speaking another country's language means the territory where you live must be given to that other country.so, you're fine with Kosovo becoming independent from Serbia or joining Albania, right?
>>539241257Why would you post an unrelated image?
>>539241346>Russian and ukranian = same ethnicity.are Bosniaks, Croats, Montenegrins, and Serbians the same ethnicity?
>>539235842>reddit spacing nafotroon lecturing other people about a country he has never been toYou are a fucking joke bro.
>>539241605>so, you're fine with Kosovo becoming independent from Serbia or joining Albania, right?It is independent already, I can't change that and for sure don't want a suicidal war to change it.
>>539241735They are all south slavs you dumbfuck.
>>539241735Yes, of course. Anyone saying otherwise is brainwashed.
>>539227852you wouldnt say the same about all the states with majority spics would you you stupid vatnigger?
>>539241400Don't lie, pidrila. russia has systematically dismantled and looted the industrial infrastructure of the Donbas, closing or repurposing approximately 90% of civilian enterprises and mines since the initial occupation. Valuable machinery and electrical systems were shipped to Russia, while abandoned coal mines were intentionally flooded, leaving an environmental disaster that will take decades to remediate. Even the pro-russian retards see it now and aren't happy, to put it mildly, see>>539241292
>>539241833If mexico was a world superpower and you started to shoot at spics in texas I would say run for the appalachians.
>>539241784yet none of them want to live with you, scum, in the same country. I wounder why that is?
>>539241882>Valuable machinery and electrical systems were shipped to RussiaThey should have kept them in an active war zone?
>>539241928Because they think the EU and NAFO are utopias. Don't ask me about their delusions and psychiatric diagnoses, they are above my paygrade.
>>539241248>lost sovereignty.No it didnt lol, it had a subverted government by kike commies that created a fake nation.It was not a legitimate government, the USSR was run by kike terrorists as such every decission they made is null and void.
>>539241735Yes actually, all of them are serbs.
>>539241778>slavsretard, "Slavic" fundamentally means a language family within the Indo-European group. For example, Bulgarians speak a Slavic language, but they're local Balkan tribes with admixture of some Slavic tribes.
>>539242006This.
>>539241882lmao, its the opposite of everything you say, as usual, you nafo /k/ike transexual discord freak
>>539242006>muh naforight, has nothing to do with you "people" being the megalomaniacal retards, like the "russians of the Balkans", with ambitions to rule everyone around.
>>539241882>Valuable machinery and electrical systemsWhere would they even get that from? It had Soviet-era equipment that was sold off back in the '90s. No one in the West gave a damn about this crap, just like they didn't care about the rest of the post-Soviet industry.
>>539227852you just described 90% of the ukraine
>>539241931>we are looting your factories for your own good>now sisnce we looted your factories you have to move to Siberia to do the jobs we russians don't want to do.kek
hyhyls always want something that not theirs, that their nature
great question
>>539242236nigga 90% of the "after" photos you posted are 3d renders, not even ai, some of them are so poorly done they look like some shit out of Second Lifei fucking hate boomers who fall for this shitalso, benzin status?
>>539227852>so just let them go.And who exactly is holding them back?Why don't they move?
>>539242546>benzin statusLMAO, meanwhile, in keev (day&night)
>>539242494The factories had been standing empty even before the war and before 2014. This kind of crap happened in literally every post-Soviet country. The best example is Latvia, which went from manufacturing trains for the entire Soviet Union to being barely able to produce parts for its existing trains.
>>539242494So you would leave valuable machinery and electrical systems inside a war zone?
>>539242500>not theirsyou're "the other" in every country, pidrila. From Kazakhstan (where you genocided the locals in 1930s) to Ukraine (where you've been trying to genocide them for 300 years). You're the plague of this earth.
>>539242546>benzin status?lmao, imagine "benzin status" posting, spending all day in a fucking subway bomb shelterLOLOLOLOl>"daily life status?"
>>539233674Bah, the mining equipment was already outdated in the 80's, it had been falling apart for 30 years and has been shelled harder than WWI Verdun for the past 4 years. The whole Donbass is forever destroyed and depopulated. Only a massive AI revolution could make it prosperous again.
>>539242387>ambitions to rule everyone aroundSharia laws won't do, sorry.
>>539242387>with ambitions to rule everyone around.There was no ambition retard we already were living on those lands and ruled them.The issue of the balkans became when muslim serbs and catholic serbs got convinced they are better off sucking german cocks and then they started rebelling and stealing OUR LANDS where SERBS that didnt sell out to Goymany lived.We have a right to every single Ex-Yugoslavia land except for Slovenia, they are the only ones that factually were not and are not serbs.I'll give you am example of your retardedness, imagine if a Florida resident decided they arent american but rather Floridian, they invent a new language by changing up some english words then they expell all the people in Florida that still call themselves American so the new Floridians can have an ethnically clean fake nation.THAT'S what happened to Yugoslavia/Serbian Kingdom not some "hurrr you wanted to dominate durr" bullshit.
>>539242546>also, benzin status?It amuses me how out of touch with reality Ukrainians are. The gasoline situation is literally over.
>>539239496> Joining NATOYeah sure. After Mexico and Venezuela join chink NATO
>>539227852wrong? and retarded?
>>539242634>Donbas was feeding the rest of Ukraine until 2014>the factories were not working anywayyou can't have it both ways, you lying pidor.
>>539241248>Russia lost sovereignty over those landsDid it? As far as I can tell they are conquering those lands and advancing as we speak
>>539234757> Right now, they're just empty abandoned factoriesYes, but the economic potential is enormous. What makes these deposits so valuable is their very high concentration of minerals that allows for rather easy and profitable exploitation unlike with the other deposits in Ukraine. Even if Russia doesn't exploit them anytime soon they are like an insurance of their future economy, attracting investments. And denying the West access to these resources that would easily pay for the build-up of a future military threat in Ukraine is a primary strategic interest.
>>539242779>Donbas was feeding the rest of Ukraine until 2014Nobody fucking said that. Take your pills if the voices in your head are too loud.Donbas was an industrial hub of the Soviet Union until its collapse. After the collapse, it went to hell, just like the rest of the industry.
>>539242434>Where would they even get that from?kek, the richest billionaires in Ukraine were all from Donbas, you stupid pidor.
>>539241292>%60 muslimNice nafo troon propaganda faggot.Russia is 10% muslim and the vast majority of them are in the far east.Whats funny is the globalist cocksuckers you shill for love muslims and have been flooding europe with them.
>>539242835We have Siberia, US has plenty of its own areas where it can extract resources, maybe Europe wants cheap resources from a nearby ally, and even then, I doubt it.>>539242871Yes because being a billionaire means you own a bunch of factories in your hometown.
>>539227852>We need to defend Ukraine by attacking these people we hate so we can keep governing them>We need to defend Ukraine by killing every last male and destroying the people of the country forever. That's right anon, none of it makes any sense whatsoever. Ukraine even passed many laws persecuting anyone who speaks or identifies as Russian (banning the Russian language, Russian Orthodox Church, evicting monks, other persecution of Russian culture, etc.) and bombed the people the of the Donbas. The real reason for all of this is that the US and EU took control of Ukraine and have 2 goals:>Provoke a war against Russia with Ukraine as the proxy>Use Ukraine to degrade the Russian militaryNow you understand why "they" will fight to the last Ukrainian, to keep governing people they hate.There is no reason to stop because the longer the war drags on, the more damage that can be done. Dead Ukrainians are immaterial and they do not care. Ukrainians don't vote in Western elections so there are no consequences. These people are absolutely evil.
>>539243155That's why every normal ukrainian is calling the men who escaped the country "the real heros of ukraine".I am not even joking
>>539242838>Nobody fucking said that.you know very little about the conflict, it seems, and the russian propaganda leading up to 2014. That is literally what they said to fool the locals into supporting the separatists.
>>539243013>Russia is 10% muslim and the vast majority of them are in the far east.Jesus F. Christ, you're an ignorant moron. Do you even know anything about anything, or you just blurt out the first shit that comes to your feeble mind?
>>539243429>Russian propagandaShow your real flag you cocksucking shill.>https://thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/george-soros-s-giant-globalist-footprint-in-ukraine-s-turmoil/>Over the period from 1990 to 2010 the International Renaissance Foundation provided more than $100 million in support to numerous Ukrainian non-government organizations (NGOs), community groups, academic and cultural institutions, publishing houses, etc. >The IRF website and annual reports make clear that the Soros funds are targeted at promoting Ukrainian “partnership” with, and “integration” into, the EU. Soros has provided many millions more through his other “philanthropic” spigots. However, Soros’ influence in Ukraine extends far beyond the traceable funding he provides to activist Ukrainian NGOs, academics and think tanks. Equally, if not more, important is the influence he exerts on global opinion through his massive propaganda network (including Project Syndicate and other Soros megaphones) and his direct personal contacts with presidents, prime ministers, parliamentarians, central bankers, media executives, and Wall Street titans. >In a February 26 column he penned for Project Syndicate that was carried by hundreds of newspapers and websites, Soros argued that the EU and the IMF must initiate a new Marshall Plan for Ukraine, meaning, of course, transfers of money from EU and U.S. taxpayers to the politicians, organizations, and institutions approved by the globalist/socialist/corporatist operatives running the EU and IMF. Perhaps the key point in Soros’ essay, entitled, “Sustaining Ukraine’s Breakthrough,” is this: “Ukraine will need outside assistance that only the EU can provide: management expertise.”
>>539243517I know that doesnt fit the narrative you are paid to spread but Russia is 10% muslim (same as France).Cope and seethe
>>539243015>being a billionaire means you own a bunch of factories in your hometown.that's exactly where their billions of dollars came from. Look up Rinat Akhmetov, often referred to as "the King of Donbas," Serhiy Taruta, Borys Kolesnikov etc.
>>539243682>doesnt fit the narrativeit doesn't fit reality, you delusional moron.
>>539227852>Why Do Hohols want the DonbassI thought it was the Russians who wanted it, hence the invasion...
>>539241743>Reddit spacingNewfag
>>539227852London should be seceded to Pakistan by the same rethoric. Russians are turbo immigrants in these ends, and are the main contributors to all the bad statistics, like alcoholism, murder rate, HIV, poverty, etc. Anyway, it's to prove Russkies that raping, pillaging and torturing Europeans will cost them everything, and they will be left permanently crippled.
>>539243898See?You know you are lying.But like a pathetic faggot you just keep lying with zero shame.>https://www.hudson.org/national-security-defense/the-co-optation-of-islam-in-russia>In Russia more than 14 million people—about 10 percent of the population—identify as Muslim.1 Islam is the second largest religious group in the country,
>>539229091You make a thread and ask anons why would they want to keep resource rich Donbass? You also ask what good NATO would get, if it´s companion has bases closer to Russias strategic targets. 5th year of the war and this is your understanding about it. Yeah, ofc others are retards, not you.
>>539235190>none of your points are truehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in_Ukraine
>>539236078>it was pretty livable before russia invaded though.you mean when it was the independent lpr and dpr states, supported by the local population, they were very livable, IN SPITE of Ukraine shelling them
>>539227852Russia could take it all in 2014 but swiss prez came and talked to Putin and we got cucked next day.Now we all pay price because 10 jews close to Putin could lose some money 12 years ago.I remember how propaganda switched overnight from they are our people! to nobody promised them anything Donbass is UkraineI also remmebr how retards gulped it down instantly. I used to think 1984 was an exaggeration but 99% of peopel really do not remember last propaganda news report if new one is different
>>539241248>Russia lost sovereignty over those landsWhen Lenin said so in 1917, before then it was part of Russia. Do you support the Communist Party in Portugal, if not then STFU.
>>539227852Why didnt Russia let go of Chechnya?I mean lead by example.Also unlike Chechnya if they really want to be a part of Russia then they can move there.No need to shoot guns at the rest of the Ukraine.
>>539245145>Also unlike Chechnya if they really want to be a part of Russia then they can move there.They were Russians who have been living in the same land for Centuries, why should they leave their homes. Ukraine was the one forcing them to abandon their language, they have the right to secede, their civil rights were violated.
>>539245145>whataboutism>point not coherent with reality>trying to ask "innocent" questions, even has spammed /po/ for years now.Hello nigger tranny! Its you agin! :D
>>539227852Nigga half of puccia is just puccified hyhyls, if secessions took place on fair principles that you’re trying to appeal to, puccia would balkanize and never recover
>>539245145Holy based
>>539245465>>539245504And now you switched flags and you answer to yourself. :D You little faggot. Aahhahhahhahhahah!
>>539245587holy projecting schizo
>>539245465if those people wanted to live under ZOG they would have succeeded already, which the Donbass did independently of Putin, independently of anyone. The Donbass left Ukraine, on their own. Make no mistake, (((Zelensky))) is ZOG
>>539245657>does the same shit than yesterday>uses same language and answer as yesterdayWe know it is you little faggot! :D You do this every day in every Russo-Ukraine thread. WHY you do this? WHO hurt you?
>>539245772Nah it’s just indicative of the fact that puccification is inherently dehumanizing and cattleficating
>>539245289>their civil rights were violated.No they werent.They didnt like the revolution and that their vote for the pro Russian president was made esentially void.
>>539245784>zigger forensic linguistics xDDDmeds could have prevented this
>>539245992>liesNobody believes you nigger tranny. WHY you do this? WHO hurt you?>>539246107>medsYesterday you answered the same... So, what meds you use? We all know that you are so much mentally ill, that you have to have some medication. So, what is it?
>>539245360>whataboutismCry about it Russian vpn cuck.Nobody does what the retard op is asking.What makes Ukraine so special that it has to be the first to cuck out?
>>539246271>he doubles down xDDDself-gaslighting at this point
>>539246298>is using vpn and lies about meyesterday you did excact same thing.>>539246399>everybody can see what you are and how you operatenobody believes you.
>>539245784Meds. Now.
>>539246454Oh, now you try belgian flag... funny how they never answer to anybody else in this topic like normal anons do.. only to the tlas person, that is me and they ALL defend you. Kek. :D
>>539246451All the pro Russia dudes are either retarded orschizos or both.Probably because they are ego raped vpn russians.That is my hypthesis.
>>539246685I am not pro Russia, you lie. Just like yesterday, that is your tactic. I am pro truth. You remember truth? The thing you don´t care anymore...
>>539227852They want the land but hate the people. Hohols claim that donbassians wanted Russia to save them and are now paying for it.
>>539227852You missed out the $14T of rare earths found there in 2014 which sparked all of this.
>>539246801Yep this is that schizo shit i am talking about.Schizo out king for all of our amusment.No amount of shizo bullshit bable will unrape you.Tell us the TRUTH.
Cause it was theirs since the fall of the soviet union
>>539246562I’m still here, schizo
>>539247026>has more than one deviceYou are not kidding anyone and you will never be a woman.
>>539246936There were no rare earths found in 2014 you fucking retard. And there is no extractable lithium in Ukraine. Only one rare earth has ever been mined in ukraine, scandium, and they found that by accident in an iron mine.
>>539243830>Rinat AkhmetovHeavy industry accounts for only a very small portion of his wealth. His main wealth comes from banking, telecommunications, and agriculture. This is modern-day Ukraine, they’ve lost the technology and infrastructure necessary for heavy industry and have simply become an agricultural nation.
>>539247591Google Ai-summary:Ukraine holds substantial deposits of critical raw materials, including key resources like titanium, lithium, and graphite, though geologists note its actual rare-earth element reserves are limited. Around 20% of the nation's overall mineral wealth and portions of these deposits are situated in areas under Russian occupation.Key Mineral ReservesTitanium: Ukraine accounts for roughly 7% of global production, holding major European reserves vital for aerospace and defense.Lithium: Estimated at 500,000 tonnes, representing one of Europe's largest untapped reserves for electric vehicle batteries.Graphite & Zirconium: Large domestic deposits utilized in modern electronics, nuclear power, and green energy technology.Rare Earth Elements (REEs): While popular in geopolitical discussions, specialized geologists emphasize that Ukraine does not possess massive, easily mineable deposits of the specific 17 rare-earth metals, though it contains broader rare-metal ores like beryllium, zirconium, and tantalum.
>>539247591>>539248013Continue:Geopolitical and Economic ContextWar Impact: Approximately 20% of total mineral deposits and up to half of certain rare-metal/rare-earth areas fall within Russian-occupied territories (largely in the east and south like Donetsk and Luhansk).International Agreements: Proposals have been advanced—including strategic resource partnerships with Western allies and the United States—to jointly invest in and develop Ukraine's unexploited critical minerals post-conflict.Extraction Realities: Many mapped sites rely on older Soviet-era surveys that require heavy modern financial investment and high processing costs to become economically viable.
>>539230693You retards are so contrarian you can't tell who your actual enemy is. Hint: Portugal isn't a real countey to them.Also Ukraine historically would extend further East/North but wouldn't go as far West. Most of the Donbas would be populated by Ukrainians, with Russians only being moved there relatively recently to the cities. So if you wanted an ethnic based map, Russia would be giving territories to Ukraine and gain some enclaves.Finally, it doesn't matter because Russia isn't winning this and hopefully the Donbas gets ethnically purged of Russians and whatever flavour of turkomongoloids they moved there.
>>539227852Strelkov started the war not "local militias". People like you always claim CIA did everything, but FSB never did anything ever.
>>539242660>Only a massive AI revolution could make it prosperous again.Only if by AI you means "Azeri immigrants"
>>539248013>>539248013That story has been planted by globohomo and is 100% bullshit>Iraq's oil will pay for the war5 pipeline to Haifa and 1 to Turkey >The lithium in Afganistan will pay for the war!To this day not one ounce of lithium has ever been mined in Afganistsn.All accounts of rare earths in ukraine.came from Soviet surveys from the 60's that nobody believed at the time. There have been ZERO new surveys But if you want to be a retard and keep falling for the propaganda knock yourself out.
>>539227852>>majority ethnic Russia>>majority want to be part of Russian Federation>>Home of pro-Russia revolt by local militas>Its pretty clear they do not want to be Ukrainian, so just let them go.mostly gas and oil but also some coalremember when mama Merkel demanded russian gazprom at *her* price?europe is trying to take it, thru their puppet leader they coup installed, as per Hillary Clinton's criminal state department
>>539227852Oh, they're allowed to go.But the clay stays.
We have needed rare earths for 40 years. If ukraine is full of them how come none have ever been mined?The truth is out there
>>539227852Basically, it's civil war right now. Over 50+% of ru elite are ethnic Ukrainians. Others are jews browns etcUkr side controlled by people from donbass + natoRu side also controlled by them + kgbIt's literally civil war
>>539228157Because Americans built that place, just like Russians built Donbas.If you want to be just and return it to its "rightful" owners then give Texas to the red skins and Donbas to Crimean Tatars.But no lets give it to jews
>>539248910Actually Crimea and Mariupol were founded by Greeks
>>539248390Tatars lived in the land being fought over, not some Polish rapebabies from Volhynia.Why don't they give it back to them?>>539248997Yea sure if you wanna go back long enough, but only on the coastlines, I just find it funny that Ukrainians claim some ancestral claim to that land when they were shipped in there by the Tsar alongside Russians to colonize it after kicking out Tatars.They never mention this.
>>539248834>It's literally civil waryes, a civil war that doesnt end at the donbass's borders
>>539249106To be fair all trade to the interior of Russia sails past Crimea and it is key to Russian defense. The Tartars collabarated with the NAZIs so they shipped them out of there. They have since been allowed to return to Crimea.
This is for the retard sourcing globohomo google.>https://spectrum.ieee.org/ukraine-rare-earth-minerals>Ukraine is believed to have four areas with substantial deposits of rare earth ores, according to Erik Jonsson, senior geologist with the Geological Survey of Sweden. “There are four slightly bigger deposits: Yastrubetske, Novopoltavske, Azovske, and Mazurivske. All but one of them seem to be now within or near the zone that the Russians control, as far as I can tell,” says Jonsson. “And when it comes to resources in those deposits, I mean, we have numbers; yes, that’s nice. But we have no real, detailed, outline of how those numbers were arrived at.” The numbers are believed to come from Soviet surveys dating as far back as the 1960s.>“The rare-earth deposits don’t look that relevant,” Jonsson concludes. “I mean, I wouldn’t go for them.” Two of the deposits are dominated by a mineral called britholite, he notes, which is not desirable because it has not been processed for rare earths, which means that almost nothing exists in the way of process chemistry and equipment.>Even without a war to contend with, it would take at least 15 years to build a mine to begin extracting rare-earth ore on a large scale, Lifton notes. And according to the terms of the draft critical materials deal, private companies would have to invest huge sums, likely a billion dollars or more, to develop rare-earths mines in Ukraine. It’s a possibility that Lifton, an IEEE member and former metals trader, dismisses as absurd. He notes that a multinational mining company, Rio Tinto Group, has spent close to US $3 billion on potential mine sites in Arizona and Alaska and still does not have the necessary licenses and permits from the U.S. Government to begin building a mine in either place.
>https://investornews.com/critical-minerals-rare-earths/alas-ukrainian-rare-earths-theres-no-there-there/>There are no proven resources of rare earth elements, atomic numbers 57 (lanthanum) to 70 (lutetium), in Ukraine’s sovereign territory.>This means that no accessible, mineable, extractible with known technologies, or high enough grade discoveries of rare earths (as defined above) have been made in Ukraine to justify the high expense of moving such a “discovery” to the internationally defined status of a “deposit” which could be mined economically.
>>539248686Well, not 100%, use word mostly nxt time.>To this day not one ounce of lithium has ever been mined in Afganistsn.You lost there and from Iraq you and Brits stole the gold.Afganistan heroin in the other hand goes to the Russian market, so you benefit from it stil in your war of global dominance.
And finally the source of thier being rare earths in ukraine:>Zelensky says so>https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250222-ukraine-s-earth-riches-are-rare-and-difficult-to-reach>The Ukrainian government said "rare earth metals are known to exist in six deposits". It said investment of $300 million would be needed to develop the Novopoltavske deposit, "which is one of the largest in the world".>Technically, some of the elements cited by the Ukrainian government (tantalum, niobium, beryllium, strontium, magnetite) are not on the list of 17 rare earths.>And some of the Ukrainian government projections are based on "a Soviet-era assessment of difficult-to-access rare earths deposits," rating agency S&P said in February.>Because the country's rare earths may be too low in concentration or too difficult to access, "Ukraine's deposits of rare earth elements might not be profitable to extract", S&P said.
>>539250067Fuck off faggotThey are lying about rare earths in ukraine to convince the EU they are going to get a return on the money sent to uktraine. Even Trump fell for it.Kike propaganda
Im from Donbass. Live here over 30 years. Ask me anything.
>>539249783>minig hard, equipment needed>>539249952>talking about 3 specific.>>539250094Novopoltavske has phosphateI dont think you fully understand what you posted. You posted, that there are problems, infrastructure needed and some are hard to refine. Not 100% bullshit.
>>539250598Do you have rare earth minerals and can you mine them?
>>539250633Phosphate is not a rare earth you lying cunt.Thanks for proving ukraine having rare earths is a talking point for nafo troons.
>>539250679Never heard of anything other than coal mined here.
Donbas? Didn't you get the new menu?
>>539227852Thats why they wanted to ethnically cleanse them until Putler stepped in
>>539249952>>539250633Sry, my bad. Did not read from-to. Actual point was economic only.
>>539227970You would be an expert on how gays operate.
>>539250754I know. It is a resource. Not everything people write to you is an argument against you. It can be notification. That was why i did not type it in greentxt, faggot.
>>539251033Goodle Ai-summary:Key Resources in DonbasCoal: Holds billions of tonnes of hard coal and high-energy anthracite essential for steelmaking and power generation.Critical Minerals & Metals: Significant deposits of lithium (crucial for electric vehicle batteries), titanium, and rare earth elements.Gas & Hydrocarbons: Features major unconventional energy assets like the Yuzivska shale gas field and coalbed methane potential.Industrial Minerals: Historically home to massive rock salt deposits, such as the Artemsil mines in Soledar
no clue why the international fag mafia would want to give up a strategic area of their front country
>>539251033So you just like to shitpost, got it.>“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” — Mark Twain.
>>539251257>shitloads of resourcesThis is you:ITS NOT ABOUT EARTH MINERALS!Why are you gay?
>>539251257>So you just like to shitpost, got it.This is a lie. You are lying. I am not shitposting and you did not get anything.
>>539251201>Significant deposits of lithium (crucial for electric vehicle batteries), titanium, and rare earth elements.Prove itWe have needed titanium since WW2, so how come not one ounce has ever been mined in Crimea.Google has been programmed to lie in favor of the Kiev regime and NATO.Ask google about the 2015 ukraine offensive involving mainly AZOV against Donbas seperatists. It will say it never happened.
>>539227852there's no ethnic russians there anymorethey literally all died
>>539251411I wrote the source, Google Ai-summary.You are like this:There are trillions worth of resources in general but it is not about rare earth minerals. 100% lie, even there are some and at this monment it is not economically reasonable." Just fuck you.
>>539227852Give us Crimea then. It's only half the population is orthodox christian, rest is tatar or tatar descendants :^)
>>539251460Cool story bro.
>>539251671Google Ai-summary:AI-yhteenvetoCrimean Tatars make up approximately 12% to 15% of the total population living in Crimea. Population Context Percentage Range: Official estimates and census data place the Crimean Tatar population share between 12% and 15%. Total Numbers: This represents roughly 240,000 to 300,000 individuals residing on the peninsula. Broader Context: A large portion of the global Crimean Tatar community lives in the diaspora outside of Crimea, heavily concentrated in countries like Uzbekistan and Turkey.
>>539251592But there are no rare earths in ukraine worth going after. You should have your brain checked.>I let google do my thinking for me!
>>539251861>>539251861At this moment. There are also resources that you should go after. So, you go after them, the resources I mean.
>>539251849(((russian))) census
>>539251936Better that roachanon... It is in the rules.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukrainehttps://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/china/disinformation-about-russias-invasion-ukraine-debunking-seven-myths-spread-russia_enhttps://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RBA3450-1.html
>>539252196Topkek! Quoted from the start of Rand-faggotry:Hate and Dehumanization in Russia's Narrative on UkraineResearch Summary:Published Feb 6, 2025Russia's invasion of Ukraine was an act of naked aggression. To spin its unjust war, Russia cloaked itself in a robe of propaganda and disinformation. Russia’s narratives include claims that Ukraine has been overrun by Nazis and needs to be "denazified," a justification presented by Russian President Vladmir Putin on the day of the invasion. Russia's narratives include the use of ethnic slurs and other dehumanizing language that seeks to justify and promote violence against Ukrainians. But how successful have these narratives been in mainstreaming their messages and reaching broad audiences?"And in reality:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDJnDIoCkHIUkrainian general after Maidan 2014.He names the juden. Pinchuk had something to do with Epstein:https://rumble.com/v2aimsw-back-in-2014-this-ukrainian-general-told-the-truth-about-who-really-runs-uk.html
why do you need X place is usa? it's majority Mexican/black anyway.
