Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schools. Too many people get useless and parasitic degrees. Think of all the progress we are stalling by just being stupid.
economics, law, history, psychology, philosophy, languages, and the arts have prevented smart people from improving society
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schools. the problem is that these are also pozzed already.
>>539229032We need less gypsys in our society so we need to put a ban on immigration from Romania.
>>539229032And males should be herded into higher education while women are herded into learning domestic skills.Yhis whole "people get dumb degrees" thing is brand new. When university was hard to get into and restrictively male, no one wasted the oppurtunity learning something stupid.
>>539229032If you're born a poor loser of low status, throwing more money and classes at you won't change that. Have fun stacking boxes.
Math is worthless if AI is going to replace everyone.
>>539229032does a fake STEM degree work?
>>539229032Trades and personal finance should be emphasized. Everyone who wants more will seek out the good stuff on their own.
>>539229188bankers are also scum, jewiss
>>539229252moron
I graduated with a chemistry degree and could not find a job for 3 years.
>>539229365>Trades sure>personal financegambling but delusional>Everyone who wants more will seek out the good stuff on their own.except it doesnt work like that, you get monopolies and people seek out short term gain
>>539229252ONG I’m shitting cumming and busting in fear as I hear the rumors that ai might displace surgeons and fuck my years of study in the ass
>>539229441this is what is wrong with society, it values useless people that already have money and their stupid endeavors
>girl with fat tits puts on Maven Dracula makeup and makes memes about Starbucks barista breastmilk or whatever>5 million dollars made in 1 (one) year
You can buy a STEM degree in Travnik university in Bosnia and Hecegovina.
>>539229032That's awfully pro China of you there wumao.
>>539229032I have a physics master I have been unemployed since graduation, a neet if you will. I would not say we need more physicists there are zero jobs for us. And I did not do a meme field but something sensor design related.
>>539230828Damn shame
>>539229032Vast majority don't have the intelligence to learn it. If you push everyone into it you basically get india where every street shitter is a computer engineer.
I really hate how our productivity-obsessed society doesn't value the humanities >uhh study philosophy?? question our existence?? learn history and the circumstances and events that led to our modern world? dude who gives a fuck about any of that, go study finance so you can increase quarterly earnings for your shareholders
>>539229032Nah I dont like learning. Its such a bother. I like being a simpleton
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biologyonly 1 of those will provide you with a livable wage job. t. math major and chemistry minor in college, now i'm a CPA accountant.
>>539229032Oh no goy, you need to learn about colonialism, gay rights, the civil rights movement and the holocaust.You stupid goy.
>>539229793>Be foid>Acummulate material wealth through whoring>Quickly parted with the wealth accumulated>Now an old hag replaced by younger more fruitful foids>No wealth still a foidOh no no no
>>539229032Having a STEM degree doesn't mean you are capable of doing what your piece of paper says though. I work in IT. Technically a STEM field. I've hired people with associate degrees for helpdesk type work and it isn't that they can't do the work but they are unwilling to continue learning daily. Same thing if they just have a ton of certs.Some other STEM jobs like chemistry or geology have extremely limited jobs for that type of degree and if you ever do get hired there then you have extremely stringent rules placed on you as well. STEM to me should be more problem solving minded individuals and I think people fell for the paycheck meme and don't enjoy a bit of stress and learning. I suppose autistic is the best way to describe it.Honestly at least in America the high school > college pipeline without having any actual working experience is a poor plan. No matter what career you will do grunt work unless you are a nepohire. I really do think there should be some time in the ages of 14-24 where people work this type of job in the field they want to get into just to learn. But internships in high performing jobs are not plentiful enough for all students to have. Maybe it is more of a too many people studying for too few jobs. Don't know, I don't have the data but I do know that if you have too many qualified people then you will have lowered wages because unemployed are willing to work for less which will shrink the middle class.
>>539231133>I work in IT.Hello Saaaarr
>>539229032Imagine not choosing trade school in 2026 you have to be retarded to do this... just go to trade and you will get job almost instantly(if not instantly since you get practice and companies give you job offer after ending school) and good amount of money too.
>>539229032There are developments in AI technology regarding chemistry. There will be far fewer jobs in the future.
>>539229252Math is still going to be needed, but unless you're 140 IQ then you shouldn't even bother applying since the AI will be smarter than you in every way.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schools.It was, it was called STEM, promoted by the Epstein/Gates Foundation. Wasted everyones time because they'd have to compete with cheap indian fake degrees
>>539229032Psychology will get you a job faster then half of the shit you mention
>>539229032I can't believe MAGA is educated
>>539229032I've got an electrical engineering degree and I've been looking for a job for over a year. I know my stuff too. I should have studied gender studies instead.
>>539232357I have a bachelors in mechanical engineering and the entire department I interned for in 2022 has since been laid off (manufacturing/continuous improvement so not really engineering but still) and there are literally zero open jobs of any kind at that entire facility right now. Took me 2 years to find something that hasn’t been completely nepo’d or jeeted even in the white man’s engineering discipline.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schools.I DONT CARE SUCK MY DICK
>>539229441Data Science masters with molecular biology bachelor's here and I stopped looking. Even with a professionally done resume and cover letter I can't even get phone interviews. Nothing about this system is real.
>>539229032The problem is that none of those subjects can be taught or graded subjectively if anyone observing the process understands them, so they and anyone who likes them are inherently racist and sexist and thus wrong. Also if we raise doctors and engineers domestically how do they justify the infinity jeet pipeline? OP you seem to fail to understand that the destruction of white people and western civilization isn't an accident it's the end goal.
>>539233926>>539229441>couldnt find jobsIt's because you guys lack networking, sometimes touching grass and social skills win.I graduated CS and I was immidately invited part time in some institution
>>539233926that's because you need a PhD you retard. otherwise you're just like any bum off the street. GTFO of the sciences you normie faggot
>>539229032i need a girl with a stem
>>539234280>that's because you need a PhD you retard.If he can afford going to SEA, there are cheap institution there to get PhD
>>539229032but only to people who are gifted. most aren't. it was like this before the "space race" - which is where the push for STEM came from - but as time has told, most people suck at STEM and should be relegated to the fields or other trades again.
>>539229441i lost my job recently.have equivalent of $1000 in savings, but prolly 20% are gone due to US's current invasion.job market is fucked. i'm autistic af, with 0 connections. i was kinda self-employed.i'd kill myself and god think its funny to toss me in hell
>>539234146Unfortunately this is true. Less capable and less competent people often land positions they don't actually rate because of who they know. This is how you end up with millennial girl bosses asking 20 year vets of the software engineering field to explain a left join or what HTTP stands for. They get installed based on connections and immediately set about filtering out literally anyone better at the job than they are. It's a race to the bottom.
>>539229032Can't AI do all of this shit at this poing. My brother is getting his PHD in Math and he says he doesn't do anything except run equations through AI. He says the STEM fields will be obsolete in a couple years.
>>539229032Too many people get degreesYou don’t need a 4 year degree to be a receptionist. If companies will not invest in these skills then we look to primary education to provide more than test prep
>>539229032What are you talking about? Every other ex-commie degreeholder seems to be in hard sciences or math. Romania punches above its weight in math contests.Eastern Europe seems to me to be a place where intellectualism and studiousness aren't actively disrespected.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schoolsThey did. Now they're competing for a shrinking number of pajeet jobs, with pajeet slave conditions, and pajeet salaries.This was the plan all along and the employim fell for it.CS and computer engineering have higher unemployment rates than arts. Unironically I know women with arts degrees that have no problem getting employed at these same tech companies in their sales department while the employim nerds are still grinding leetcode/system design and now "agentic" coding.
>>539231027subhuman animal
>>539229387I believe gnome is the correct racist term for Swiss bankersThe more you know
>>539230973We don't actually value productivity. We value sociopaths occasionally randomly hitting the jackpot and everyone has to pretend they're serious people because they're rich.
>>539234437I know a guy who got a data scientist job at IBM who couldn't even write a for loop in python. Meanwhile they let ex sorririty HR girls filter candidates based on "vibes". Nepotism and cronyism has reached pandemic levels, civilization dying on the back of over socialization. Kazinsky tried to warn us.
>>539234146The US is outsourcing to your country. That's why you find it easy. We need to compete with your wages to get a job.My Filipino wife with both a CS and math degree hasn't gotten a single interview over here.
>>539234748What kind of salary are we talking?
>>539229032A degree doesn't make you smart. Look at the retards in charge of everything.
>>539229032>science degrees>not useless and parasiticAHAHAHAHAgo look at the unemployment rates of science degree holders
>>539234437>>539234748I think another point is that, in the West, you're competing with people who are much more tech literate. As for me, I'm competing with local and village people. Most people in my area don't even know how to use AI, so positioning yourself early before everyone else in a local population is a huge advantage.
>>539234400theres no god egypt bro
>>539230828Maths and physics is an extended GATE program to weed out those who could be dangerous to the system. I knew a PhD math grad who retrained as an oncologist. Seemed pretty cynical, but now we know poisoning boomers is a noble calliny
>>539229032>>539229115midwit takephilosophy is very important subject and societies where philosophers are not respected die out very fast
OK but why would I hire you when I can get a jeet for 20% the price and shareholder value still goes up??? You haven't magically made yourself valuable with just a degree when ranjeet can get one off the black market for 12k CAD.
>>539234901>Academics in philosophy departments are philosophers The simulacrum always sets out to destroy the real
>>539229032>You are about to hear the most retarded low IQ opinion even stated
>>539229188But not on Romanian prostitutes.
>>539229032Extremely jewish post
>>539234580My problem is that the west is self sabotaging by not pushing as hard for math based sciences like it used to during the space race. Also beware of China they recently just deleted a bunch of useless degrees.
>>539234625jwiss gnomes
>>539229032You talk about schools. Let's talk about females they make so much money and produce absolutely nothing of value
>>539234929Why don't you guys try making your own indie game or software instead of forcing yourselves to work for companies that just want cheap labor? I do understand that developing your own games or software takes a lot of time, and without an audience it can feel pointless. But if your parents are still willing to support you, I think it's more rational to focus on building indie games or software, or even doing freelance work, instead.
>>539234901i must be on to something if the chosen ones call it a midwit take
>>539235122nice vpn are you the same guy as >>539234901 ?
>>539229275No, because what she really wants is a guy with money.
>>539235238>Just create something brilliant and original That's painting a target on your back. Enjoy getting sued for specious infringement by the patent officer class
>>539229032Didn't Elon (((Haldeman))) say that if you have to attend college to master a skillset then you've already lost the plot?
>>539235527ok so it works
>>539229032Who is thise semen demon? Asking for research purposes.
>>539235556>That's painting a target on your back. Enjoy getting sued for specious infringement by the patent officer classJust create something original so you don't get sued, duh. I taught my friend how to vibe code in Roblox Studio when I was still a sophomore. Now he has a loyal community around his Roblox game, and he lets me work part-time as a developer on some of his projects. Everything is so much easier now if you know the right tools.
>>539229441top kek the girl costume one at the end made me lose my shit with that little walk
>>539229032>/pol/ - we need more math, science, and engineering!>also /pol/ - all science is fake and gay! we need more astrologers and holistic medicine! we need to punish these pozzed faggots! cut everybody’s funding!>also also /pol/ - wtf why is our society fucked and being run by retards? why didnt all the nerds do something to stop this?
>>539234400You're Egyptian bro, why not get on that esoteric occult knowledge like me and look into the teachings of Thoth? Would be more based you doing it than me as a 6'1" ethnic German blonde man from Nebraska. I'm talkin about magic powers an sheeeeeeit.
>>539235556rare flag
>>539235855pinkchyuwu
>>539229600>rumors>my years of study:-)
>>539229275topkekWe will gas you last lol
>>539233876Wait people flex IQ tests under 145? No wonder browns are such retarded subhumans.Honestly OP is right, a base degree of something is worth infinite more than a doctors degree of nothing. Hitler removed all the jewish bullshit from akademia but the kikes just went full weimar again after the war was lost. Its sad honestly today european akademia is a place of repetition and fraud. The only thing they invent is a 700th gender, or a more efficient way to suck kike dicks.
>>539236053>>539234882thanks for the you guys. i really hate not bledning unoticed in the crowd
Sure you could work hard and do STEMbut some bimbo is going to make 20 million dollars for showing off her pussy.So all the hard working men are going to be quickly outpaced by a woman with a pussy under 100% of circumstances. Thus our society will become fully matriarchal, with rich women ruling over weak men.
>>539234400>have equivalent of $1000 in savingshow long can you survive in your hellhole with just $1K anon?
>>539237007Cope jews manipulate those markets to push degeneracy on young women. Majority of OF sluts make next to nothing
>>539234400Just refugeemaxx into europe and leech of the cucked germanic white man
>>539236962The issue isn't even just the degrees, it's all the years of learning subjects unrelated to your degree. Half of what you learn is related to your degree, a quarter is pure propaganda, and another quarter is just random bullshit. Bach degrees could be 1 or 2 years tops. You should be able to get your doctorate in 4 years, not waste so many years "learning" things you don't need and will immediately forget because it has literally nothing to do with your degree. Imagine if Dr. Smith could start his career and family life at age 22 instead of age 25 or increasingly age 27~28. The school system basically robs you of your most productive years.
>>539235527and a big dick, and a 6pack, and to be at least 6 foot tall, and be able to rawdog for an hour straight (you can be 5'10/5'11 you just have to say you are 6 foot)
What women want is simple anon, it's really basic. A woman wants -everything that you aren't- so you just need to erase yourself and become a completely different person that is -everything that you aren't- and then women will adore you and flock to you, like magic. You just have to cease to exist and form a whole new fake personality that appeals to women.
>>539237415I hear you but thats not even the main problem. The problem is (((EU funded research))) those kikes sit in their EU nothingburger scamposition and decide what kind of research topic gets substidized, in the end its just a planned economy even if everyone would have a perfect know how in 1 year what difference does it make if writing controversal papers gets you defunded and sucking off the jEwropeanUnion gets your funding extendes for another 5 years. Its just another form of corruption. And its not even that nothing gets done its just that there is no free research in a planned economy and all that gets produced is shit that the EU will tell you smells fine.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schoolsSweet summer child, your are so naive and stupid.Schools should teach to read, write and arithmetics. Nothing less nothing more.But do that for real. Today when have situation when pupils who actually cant read and write professionally are dragged further into education to "study" chemistry, physics, history etc" they of course do this only on paper.
>>539236962>145>flagniggers wont flood my country in the next 10 years>a base degree of something is worth infinite more than a doctors degree of nothing.I kind of regret not switching to Electrical Engineering when I was still a sophomore. But if we're talking about making money, I think law is probably the better option.
>>539237514Honestly i have a big dick and i am 6'2 i dont even want those european trash whores. Just look whats on "the market" honestly youre much better off just getting your women in the east or south amerika, having a westernized whore as a partner is the most cucked thing. And for those nice foreign women you dont need all that superficial bullshit.
>>539238026Depends with engineering you are international with law your balls are stapled to one bullshit country. You loose alot of oportunities. But if you are going for money medicine is the easiest fastest money scam out there. And a med degree isnt even hard. Neither is the job.White loosers flood your country to wife up single moms lol
>>539238026Engineering is bounded by fundamentals. There are only so many dams to build. Law has the advantage that the more lawyers there are the more work there is for lawyers
>>539238026Law will be replaced by ai before electricians. Electrical engineering can become part of what an electrician can do with the help of ai too but robots probably aren't replacing jobs like electricians. AI can do a lawyers job of looking existing shit up very easily though.
>>539229032> I need a guy with a STEM degree?For what, to hold your camera while you slut it up on OnlyFans? I guess a STEM grad would work, since he'll be unemployed.
>>539237082how much can you spend 300euros? single spcx or year-supply of baguette?>>539237286if anything the person you have problems and with uniornically with me, lies under the same flag as yours
>>539238470RAREFLAG
>>539229032Enjoy your unemployment lines
>>539229032The goyim have gone insane
>>539229252>can't fathom the reason for vertical bars on the page so just writes through themThe stemcel.
>>539238392>But if you are going for money medicine is the easiest fastest money scam out there. And a med degree isnt even hard. Neither is the job.True, my aunt is like those midwits who thinks they are superior than anyone cause they are MD, though all they do is bullshit trivias which I think AI could replace easily. >White loosers flood your country to wife up single moms lolI think wasian population in SEA would be better than nignog ferals in my neighborhood
>>539238535>Law will be replaced by ai before electricians. Electrical engineering can become part of what an electrician can do with the help of ai too but robots probably aren't replacing jobs like electricians. AI can do a lawyers job of looking existing shit up very easily though.I think CS could still survive in the future if it focus more in AI, I mean it already does but like virtually AI could do any existing profession now, but it must upgrade its curriculum.
>>539234146>It's because you guys lack networking, sometimes touching grass and social skills win.Yeah, this is true. Social skills are far more useful than actual technical skills. You can be an autistic genius but still end up a broke incel if you can't handle socializing with people. And you can be a barely literate fool but end up with a comfy corporate job if you're a charismatic social chameleon.
>>539229252>Ted Kaczynski: dude just read Wired magazine
>>539229115You are clearly brown.
>>539229252He really was quite a prophet. AIs coupled with automated proof assistants have already solved a handful of high profile conjectures, and top mathematicians are already debating if Fields medals will be given to humans beyond 2030.
>>539230828Start your own business in sensor tech duh
>>539229032You seem to have kicked the bee hive
>>539239421Grothendieck told us about the satanic power structure and how doing mathematics is working for the devil. Anyone still in the field is ether evil or stupid. Thank God the good men listened. The field stalled out 20 years ago
>>539237415A lot of material you learn, even the unrelated skills, is still important. Graduate courses in tangential areas of the same field force you to build skillsets critical for devising new models and methods of analysis.An argument can be made for cutting electives and core curricula, but for many science majors there’s already very little wiggle room. A typical humanities, business, or social sciences program in the US is 40 major credits, 40 core, 40 electives (plus or minus 5-10 credits in each category). A typical physics or engineering program is closer to 70-80 major credits, which means an undergraduate program is often 10-15 credits over the 120-mark, even with already cutting electives and core classes or counting some of the major courses. And I’d also argue that a diversity of core curriculum courses are worth keeping. Classics like philosophy, rhetoric, art, humanities, etc. introduce you to other ways of looking at things and thinking about problems and communicating ideas and these are important soft skills, even in the sciences. It’s also dry as fuck being in the sciences - and being able to discuss other things with colleagues is good for your sanity. Minimize these other topics, sure, but don’t eliminate them completely.As for doctoral programs in general, a PhD in 4 years is doable for theory and computational research at a stretch, but is almost unheard of for experimental research. I took 8 years, and the colleague I know who finished quickest, finished in 5 (and that was considered extraordinary). Median age for finishing a PhD in the hard sciences is 30. Whether you’re in physics, bio, chem, whatever - doing something that fundamentally adds new knowledge to your field takes fucking time. The idea that you can cut a few electives and end up with PhDs well into the start of their early careers and having families by 25 is nice on paper, but it’s laughably unrealistic.
>>539239055>You can be an autistic genius but still end up a broke incel if you can't handle socializing with people. And you can be a barely literate fool but end up with a comfy corporate job if you're a charismatic social chameleon.Can you apply for a government position in your country? I graduated with honors in CS in my country, and if you graduated with latin honors, you don't have to take the civil service exam bullshit. That makes it much easier to qualify for government jobs. So if the job market in your country is really tight, maybe a government position would be a good alternative.
>>539229032Oh yes promoting degrees ( like computer science and 'learn to code) has worked so great in the past. Just push wages down bro! It's the best for society
>>539237151This is no different than any other market.
>>539239855Bruh kek you are a fucking flip, our burger flippers make more than you and your entire bloodline combined. Your opinion on academics and employment is entirely irrelevant
>>539240009And what is purchasing power parity mean again anon?
>>539229032If we do that, we’ll stop importing “doctors and scientists” since we’ll have plenty, right?
>>539240009>>539239863>nigga thinks I cant just move to their country and steal their jobs
>>539229441Stem is dead in the west, we outsourced it.
>>539239855Yes, Filipinos are widely considered among the best sailors in the world. They dominate the global maritime industry, making up roughly a quarter to a third of all international seafarers. They are heavily relied upon by global merchant and cruise fleets due to their strict work ethic, fluency in English, and strong technical education
>>539229032Careers that will survive AI>Anything req a license So doctors, architects, lawyers, etc. AI cannot do causal reasoning which is what all doctors do "If I prescribe X meds what will happen to Y conditions". AI will be a personal assistant so new grads will spend less time researching case law while articling and more time doing actual lawyer shit. >Applied Math at the graduate levelNumerical methods are needed because the real numbers are 99% uncomputable. None of the math you learn in undergrad university is ever used in practice for example linear algebra is completely thrown out you only ever factor matrices on a computer or work at the linear operator abstract level with Banac spaces. None of the integration you learned is used either because it's useless in practice a constructive quadtrature numerical library is used instead for matrix calculus where everything can be cast into larger dimensions therefore sparsity exploited to speed up computations.>Classical education This is so you can speak in public, make a convincing argument, and understand the western civilization and life in general. We all know that the way you present yourself and networking is how you get careers and it's all elite kids in these programs who's parents will hire you at their luxury car dealership or students seeking a masters with a license like law school.If I was entering now I'd only consider robotics and drones engineering, the usual med school or architect track or a classics department degree of Aristotle and old Roman literature because AI will just be used for everything else.
>>539229441Should have been born with connections but you were just like me you stupid faggot
>>539229161>>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schools.>the problem is that these are also pozzed already.This anon is correct. Too many jeets with fake math degrees. Physics , chemistry and biology is pozzed.
>>539229032Most people are too stupid for STEM but they're too smart to be a cashier all their lives so they need something to makes them feel validated.So they get a literature degree and then tell all the customers about it as they approach the register.
>>539240424>Careers that will survive AI>jeet with a canadian flagAll of them. Jeets will be deported. Daily reminder, 90% of jeets can't code. Low iq retarded jeets will be replaced by AI.
why are women allowed to go around looking nothing like they really do?
>>539240534An AI just beat all human opponents at the AtCoder programming tournament in Japan. Nobody codes better than AI.
>>539231041A chartered public accountant accountant?
>>539229115Regulating those subjects to the Jewry is PRECISELY why you are in this situation. STEM creates physical goods but gives no thought to how or why they are created and implemented.
>>539240424>doctors, architects, lawyersLol wut? There is zero reason they can't be replaced by AI.
>>539240534Not a jeet spic saaarNoone is writing code by hand by 2028 they will exclusively use programming synthesis generating code from a formal model as now AI makes formal methods cheap and easy. >>539240762Look up causal reasoning which all those 3 must do and AI can't do. It will make diagnosis, case law research and building code alignment easier to do but can't be replaced as you need a license to practice by the state. Do you think some guy will set up a Bluetooth speaker in court and think a jury is going to listen?
>>539240424Most careers will survive AI for the simple fact that you need to be able to hold someone accountable for errors. If it's not an individual human nurse, architect, engineer, teacher, lawyer, driver, etc. then by default it must be the company managing the AI replacement for that individual. I don't think most of these AI companies have stopped to appreciate how much liability they're opening themselves to.If a human doctor makes a bad diagnosis and a patient dies, we hold that doctor responsible, but more importantly that doctor can respond to that mistake in real time. They can assess how the mistake was made, what they did wrong or, in some cases, if none was made and something was simply overlooked or information was unavailable that they needed to make the correct diagnosis and treat the patient. They can immediately pivot to watch for signs of a similar case in the future and improve.If an AI doctor makes a mistake its mostly going to be down to insufficient emphasis on some aspect of its training data (in which case there's no guarantee of it not repeating the mistake until it spends six months retraining on a new data set) or a digital hallucination, in which case there's no guarantee it won't happen again.AI tools are going to drastically affect every career, but in the long run, these are going to remain tools used by humans rather than full replacements like people seem to be simultaneously fearing/rooting for.
>>539229032In the past the world was easy, you for lots of money and women wanted you. Now due to the legal system, they marry you and then divorce you and get half.
>>539241081>Do you think some guy will set up a Bluetooth speaker in court and think a jury is going to listen?Multiple AI firms have offered a cash reward to anyone willing to let an AI lawyer defend them against criminal charges in court. Unsurprisingly no one has taken anyone up on these offers because while people are willing to single these companies' praises day and night, putting your freedom or life on the line is another matter.
>>539240374>global maritime industryI’d say that industry is also a dead end in our country. There are too many graduates and too few positions available in agencies.>>539240424>I'd only consider robotics and drones engineeringIf only i was gifted in sports I dont need to think of all these dumbass preparations
>>539234791She's applied to jobs that pay less than 40k including some bottom of the barrel indentured labor companies like FDM group.She's applied to around 400 jobs in total. She doesn't need the job since she has a non-STEM public sector job.
>>539229427> moronNo (you)
>>539239395you're clearly jewish
>>539231133Found the jeet
>>539239658throw an insult and the owner will come and pick it, i called all the non stem "people" retards and look at how many angry animals are in the threadfor instance behold this monkey >>539239663 "satanic power structure and how doing mathematics is working for the devil" lmao, the niggeRs are starting to post on 4chan
>>539240136the medical fields are insanely monopolized and gatekept, you would have enough now if you just let in most of the students applying
>>539240424>Careers that will survive AIphysical labour, it will take most specialized jobs and paradoxically wont replace the ones people thought robots would
>>539240621Do you realize that "AI" copies open source code, that's in the open source libraries and Stack overflow???And that code in stackoverflow is a SHITTY jeet code??Yes "AI" chatbot can slap together jeet code faster than a human can.Will this code work??? NO, only real human can identify that. If this shitjeet code would work today, will it have shitty bugs? YES. May it fail 2 weeks or 2 months down the road, because its shitt y jeet code and nobody human actually analyzed it for 100 different other possible failure points. Sure it will fail. Do these failures already occur?? Yes en masse. India lost 800 million database of indian passport because of shitty "AI" code.Mcdonalds got their jobs site hacked in a day.>McDonald’s AI Hiring Bot Hacked with ‘123456’ Password, Exposing Millions of Job Seekers >word on the street is 64 mln records stolen.https://captaincompliance.com/education/mcdonalds-ai-hiring-bot-hacked-with-123456-password-exposing-millions-of-job-seekers/
>>539241081I am sure you will be. And then someone will forget to have a password on 800 mln records. >see "india 800 mln records database hacked"or some shitjeet "AI" code set 123456 password on 64 mln records job site, >>539242267
>>539240740moron
>>539242267>>539242404Do you think cybersecurity will still survive? My friend took all those CompTIA certifications, but I'm kind of skeptical.
>>539229032fixed it for you OPshe doesnt give a fuck about your STEM degree
>>539229238>domestic skillsnot needed anymore. Your wife will hate you if you expect her to clean while her neighbor has a husband who gifted her a dishwasher or an AI vacuum cleaner.
>>539238618i don't get your answer, i was genuinely curious, it wasn't to mock you or anything...
>>539229252honestly this guy sounds like reddit personified
>>539240650not all accountants are CPAs. also i'm american, so it stands for certified public accountant.
All of my richest friends studied garbage like Philosophy or Business Studies and just socialmaxx'd their way to the top. everything your parents ever told you about how to succeed in life is ignorance or a lie.
>>539233062Can't believe you obsessed with the 'golems'
>>539229032the issue is not that these fields are wrong per sethe issue is that the staff, that works these fields, are incompetent and/or biaseda professor of gender studies should be insisting on biological definitions of sex, for they are the basis of the science to begin withinstead, those are radical femmes, with an axe to grind, clearly more interested in doing politics they justify with half-assed science from their own departments, instead of actually doing and representing science (which is inherently apolitical)
>>539242267I tried to cajole the ai into admitting we can't have milk deliveries because of niggers. It wouldn't have it. I had to settle for getting it to admit the CIA killed Peter tosh. It's so hobbled it cannot deal in the real world
>>539234029When you misuse a quote it makes you look like a liar, or an idiot. The reason freeman said that is because he was worried we would have a bunch of people with advanced degrees and no jobs for them. Whether you agree with that or not, it's not the bullshit propaganda you posted. My guess is you're an idiot, thougheverbeit.
>>539229634why do you never name what society you live in? you are on a romanian vpn but never name your country.
>>539229032Tbh most STEM grads are retards too.In the US we have people with PhDs and STEM masters that can't even speak English.
>>539229032I wish goth girls were real.
>>539229032>needa promooootSee, that's how we've ended up in this shitty mess where almost all college/university graduates don't get jobs in their fields of study.Just this gay assumption that more asses in seats means a better world. The fact is, pre-WW2, 1-3% of the population had post-secondary education; about the number that has the IQ to justify their attendance at these institutions. Now it's, what, 40%? Since when do we need 40% of the people to be senior administrators, legislators, executives, inventors, etc.?
>>539243003a heckin smart verbose way to say it depends.i don't pay rent, keep lights off, and i can be extremely frugal. maybe a year being frugal stuck in a room.don't even own a smartphone, and onegirl once asked to make a call, and once she saw my old mechanical one, she almost spit on my face. unfortuantely she didn't, but i diagress>>539243064imagine the guy calculating the piss trajectory
>>539229032> should be heavily promoted in schoolsThey are! At least in China.
>>539229032>stem instead of steamGood to see that Romania is still in the 19th century. Ignoring that, language, literature, history, philosophy, theology, etc are all far more important.
>>539242774Yes, I think so. I think the AI produced code is very weak, and there will be issues with this code. In the next 10 years for sure.
>>539243297Hahahaha great ,anon :))
>>539229032does someone have this girl's number? i have a stem degree and want goth gf
>>539243631Unfortunately, none of this is real. Fake lips, fake teeth, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, fake hair, fake tits, fake white skin, fake fashion, plus shooping/AI filters. Probably had plastic surgery too.
>>539229161Yes, science has been thoroughly corrupted. Universities are breeding politically correct incompetence.
>>539244021867-5309, ask for Jenny
>>539244055>science has been thoroughly corrupted>I know because retarded faggots on /pol/ have parroted this to me for years so it must be true
>>539244048Isn't that Tectone's ex gf who got a restraining order against him because he "abused her" according to her. And in the lawsuit most of those "abuse" cases where him wanting to have sex with her right after she got plastic surgery. First one was breast implants and second one was lip fillers so much so that he ruined her fillers because he had sex with her right after.
>>539244055>science is compedAlways has been. Pythagoreans were satanic secret society and murderers. Physicists were born as atomic bombsters. Chemists been making the gas and dynamite. It's smart boys making powerz of debil
>>539244076i called. we have a date planned for thursday. thank you based leaf anon
i dont like the angsty and depressed gothic styleit should be fatalistic but way more sophisticatedi dont mind sexualization if done right but more often it just ruins the art
>>539244402My pleasure anon.
>>539241147Insurance too. Unless we end all litigation there's no way a hospital or government here starts using AI doctors that can't be insured. Same goes for the AI agent that designs a bridge that collapses because a prompt about frozen ice weighing down the cables was not entered. >>539241352Lawyers use the art of rhetoric to convince a jury. Almost every study says the jury 90% makes up their mind on a case from the opening arguments alone where a story is presented to them on why they are there. Imagine an annoying AI voice trying to captivate the jury to their side and also missing a critical objection like some witness is allowed to start handing out opinions >In your mind officer Bob is the defendant guilty?>..... no AI objection...>Yes 100% guilty
>>539229032>Think of all the progress we are stalling by just being stupidNo. I work engineering for 10 years now, have been both "office" engineer and one in the toolshop, worked in automotive and aerospace, worked in supplier and in OEM (offload, but still). Problem isn't parasitic degrees. Problem are fucking evil idiots manipulating well-meaning starry-eyed people that want something more from life and who thought engineer is some glorified position that have similar meaning like 100 and 70 years ago.Most of modern engineering is fucking useless and reinvents same problems that were solved YEARS ago. Now it's just numbers game and race to the bottom.I'd gladly see more focus on giving proper job to people with "useless" degrees so society will be collectively healed and fucking behead half of the "elite" and "technocrats".
>>539244686>Lawyers talk to juriesOn tv. This is a high iq thread, you are in the wrong place. Law is procedural. Not willing to engage with your sophist pilpul any further than that it's derailing our sciencey thread
>>539244048>Fake tits covered in fake goth clothes, all with a fake visage (makeup overload), fake hair (wig) with instagram filters on topThe matrix is more real than this.
>>539244973Lawyers talk to juries in the civilized world, not niggerland. Yes, most of their job is procedural, but at the end of the day the heart of the work as an attorney is the prosecution and defense each trying to walk twelve people through a narrative that supports their case.
>>539230098Croach.
>>539245218Jury trials resolve less than 3% to 4% of criminal cases in the United States. The vast majority—typically 94% to 97%—are resolved through plea bargains, where the defendant agrees to plead guilty in exchange for reduced charges or a lighter sentence.
>>539244048But is the BPD real?
Civil Cases: Only \(1\dots3\%\) of civil lawsuits go to a jury trial. The rest are dismissed by a judge, sent to mandatory arbitration, or settled privately by the parties.
>>539242888I mean a girl like that has a chance at least having a date with just that.Sooo what is the meme here?
>>539245378I’d let an ai try and plead me out. It’s probably a better negotiator than I am.
>>539229032All that money should be going to jews and dumb jew wars!
>>539245378Yeah, nobody cares about the 97% of cases that end before the trial starts.97% of medical cases end with a doctor recommending preventative care that stops an issue from becoming a problem.97% of criminal investigations end with the perpetrator being the most obvious suspect and there being a plethora of evidence against them.97% of scientific inquiries end with null results.People don't go into these professions or make big bucks for the standard everyday routine shit, but for the 3% of cases where their skills and talent are actually critical.
>>539229252>if AI is going to replace everyoneWhich it never will, removing the human element will lead to a total collapse as people would blindly believe whatever retardation the AI spits out without verifying its validity. And seeing how AI can't even get basic things right I think it's safe to say that it's completely useless in the long run and nothing more than another novelty to feed to the goy masses just so the capitalist enterprises would have some sort of excuse as to where all the billions of taxpayer money is being funneled which is definitely not their wallets.
>>539245466>>539245578Backpedaling quibbling every single time. Why can't you let us have nice threads without pushing your scammy ways. We are numerate and analytical. Go sell this to the regular goys
>>539240424Forgot to mention if you are trapped in a CS degree then you want to abandon your electives and entirely do research on campus which some schools will let you do.Every school has ongoing research labs you can join but you have to treat it like a job as most students are ice brained slow and require hand holding which you can't if involved in research. I would join every lab possible and spend all my efforts there because when you are finished you get a **personal letter of recommendation** from a professor and even grad school offers if you want to continue in school. That letter will get you hired anywhere even wall street
>>539245721I’m just throwing it out there. If you are indeed high iq you’ll recognize that most of what most lawyers do is boilerplate paperwork that isn’t really too complex for an average person, just tedious and nitpicky. Sounds like something an appropriately trained llm should be able to handle without issue.
>>539245378A lawyer spends time before any plea doing discovery and using experience with juries to see if it's worth going to trial. AI will speed that up and you'll see more trials now as less fees have to be paid
>>539245721>Why can't you let us have nice threads without pushing your scammy ways.Says the nigger pushing for more AI scams.
>>539245753>Be slave labour for an Indian professor and maybe she will write you a letter and you can get a job at googleMaybe in 2005 that sorta worked but then the indian professor started using slopes and writing nice letters for poos
>>539245947>Says the nigger pushing for more AI scams.Source? I have spoken about how shit the ai is itt. It's not going to stop (((lawfirms))) using it for procedural lawfare. A pox on both your houses
>>539246061Current AI agents like Mythos are not allowed to be exported only Americans will have sophisticated AI unless chinks steal another model. Your country for sure will not be using it neither will mine
>>539246317>runs a local Chinese model on his own hardware Problem?
>>539231127>Quickly parted with the wealth accumulatedIs this really true anymore? I see these whores buying houses, I find it hard to believe they don't pick up financial advisors at some point. With some moderately smart investing they can probably live off their dividends forever, short of Total Market Death.
>>539230973It works on a few levels. There's the holy profit, which is better served with professional degrees, anything intended to lead directly to a particular career. There's also the fact that corporations have deliberately pushed to remove liberal education; "the humanities;" and replace it with what's essentially job training. The corporation has quite deviously externalized the cost of training new hires. Not only do they not have to spend as much time/effort on training new people, the new people actually pay for their own training BEFORE they have the job, or even any promise of a job.And I think the sinister underpinning is that the liberal arts are called that not because they're the leftist arts, but because they are the arts that make a man free; that give a man liberty. The liberal arts were classically considered the ways of thinking that a man needs to be his own master, rather than someone else's slave. Our society has no desire for men who are their own masters, it wants slaves, and it gets slaves. Uneducated on a free man's way of thinking, loaded down with debt, and fully focused on making themselves better widgets for the companies that will hire them.
>>539246964this image is unfathomably cool
>>539246317This Kingdom will not be using golems to communicate because we embrace the Logos face to face
>>539246964Humanities: Literature, History, Philosophy, Religion, Ethics, Journalism, and Language studiesLiteral goyslop for the plebiii nAmericans ruin everything. "Literature" was developed as a subject for the working classes with no Latin and less Greek. It was a secular humanitarian effort to improve them. As for your survey courses in philosophology and comparative religion, I can't even. And "I took Swahili in college"
>>539231133You mean sending people into fields just for monetary incentive and not because they actually want to is a bad idea?!
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>>539229032I agree 100%We need to be forced superior education The people of the top anger me so much they deliberately give shit education to make their population a serf class but it will soon change because the time of collapse is comingWhen that comes every traitor will be killedI will personally burn down the old culture and replace it with an education focused highly atheistic rational culture
>>539229441>chemistrythat's your problem. Should have done engineering, LOL
I'm a chemical engineer and making $90k out of uni in a low cost of living red state.
>>539243367Boy did you mis the fucking point. Less than 50% of graduates get a job in field they got a degree in. Most if not all of them got communist oikophobic indoctrination and less than half of Americans read above a sixth grade comprehension level. My comment was on the priorities of "our" current education system and American children learning STEM being antithetical to them.
>>539246558It depends on the foid, the rare intelligent ones will do these things independently, but even the dumb fuck ones can still manage to find a simp white knight who will help them set up fiscal stability in the hopes of touching their boob one day.
>>539229032It was you dumb retard. stem or steam was advertised heavily and only a handful went through with it. Some of those degrees became memes too with ai dropping.
>>539229441when's the last time you were offered good blotter acid. see a market and meet the need, thats how you make money.
>>539234614Make the world a better place for me
>>539229032>brown eyesShe still might be worth something to someone, just not me.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schoolsThey are, far too much. Every kid who liked minecraft, models, or legos is told to be an engineer and the job market is flooded and wages are crap.
>>539229441studying my masters degree in chemistry currently, surely this won't happen to me
>>539229239>Have fun stacking boxes.Thanks for lightening my mood...
@pinkychuyuwBit meh desu.
>>539241147>If a human doctor makes a bad diagnosis and a patient dies, we hold that doctor responsible, but more importantly that doctor can respond to that mistake in real time.bullshit, iatrogenic injuries and murders proves you wrong.
>>539229032It already is in the US, most americans are just not interested and can’t compete at higher levels with jews, jeets and asians. Not in significant numbers anyhow. I’m a software engineer with background in mathematics and cs, all the higher courses are filled with south and east asians, and jews. Jobs are the same, jews at management level, asians at highly specialized research and engineering positions, indians everywhere else and in executive admin positions increasingly. The only whites who get in with significant numbers are women allowed in for filling quotas and lgbt faggots
>>539250409how is the situation of hispanics and white hispanics?
>>539250409I only see East Asians...?Whites and East Asians. But you're a shill and either jewish or indian like 99% of this shit boardd.
>>53925040990% of the Indians can't make it past Calc II
>>539248854Maybe a month ago>>539249750lo
>>539245753I want to try out research but at my uni it's unpaid and not really doing over just working.
>>539229032>Math, engineering, physics, chemistry and biology should be heavily promoted in schoolsLiterally all of this shit is obsolete because of AI>learn a tradeAll entry level trade jobs will cease to exist soon
>>539229188What about "gypsys" from other countries, smartass?
>>539234029>Map of states with poor literacy is an exact match of states with high non white population.What kind of American isn't literate?
>>539250733it's always unpaid until you get to grad school and even then barely enough to live on. That's why you drop all electives and pursue research instead ask your school. The 3/4th yr electives are garbage and not worth taking. You want to learn what is knows as 'good taste' in research that's the ability to recognize something that's amenable to solving. You only learn this skill from other researchers
>>539230828Similar. Masters in Mechanical Engineering with Aerospace speciality from respected state university. Not a peep. Parents said what is happening. Do you have a job yet?!? Did the FE exam to try to get a EIT government job. No bites. I finished a CAD drafting class. Nothing. I then got wind of field engineering from a friend. Wasn’t bad. Hired within the hour. Limited coworkers. You travel, drive new rental cars, hotels, good meals, and work is satisfying. Only thing that sucks is living out of a toolbox and suitcase. Also patience is key and fixing shit on the fly with clapped parts is always fun. Try to look into something like this in Germany. Nobody wants to get out of the office. Good luck anon.
>>539229032this is not the root problemdont bother fixing symptoms
>>539252239SpaceX is also desperate for mechanical engineers but you have to move to middle of nowhere launch sites
>>539229032Biology has too much fake and gay stuff.It is more or less been converted to a priest class for secularists with no real meaning or usefulness other than to push dogma.
>>539229032the guys she fucks either majored in communications at their local community college or majored in polisci at a school they were a legacy at and now work at their uncle's law/finance firm, if they went to college at allstem majors marry SEAmonkeys after losing their virginity on their post-college trip to thailand opened their eyes to women who shut the fuck up occassionally
>>539229032she was a blowjob machine for a bald man named tectone for 2 years lol its in court papers
>>539229032>people get useless and parasiticban social media and paid porneither that now or reeducation camps and pogroms in decade at most
>>539251069>All entry level trade jobs will cease to exist soonhow is AI going to clear out the clumps of dog hair, mold and feces clogging up your central air?
>>539238635The difference between these is like 2-3% so marginal. Other shit affects your job prospects more than your major. You just have to be slightly above average. Stupid amerimutt.
>>539231127pure incel cope.
>>539240621Oh wow! Google AI can find simple problems that have been solved a million times!!! Fucking low iq retard.
>>539253959That guy was living the dream, whoever he is
>>539255113just some streamer faggot thats a wannabe of asmongold but bald thats pretty much his m.o
>>539229032Too late, now. STEM is also a meme. Next up is trades.t. Electrical Engineering degree that still has to do help desk shit because it's all there was.
>>539234901Philosophy is just applied Theology.That's the real problem here, America has lost it's Judeo-Christian values.
