Being dead doesn’t seem that bad. The thought of an afterlife is utter horrifying. Imagine this shit is going on forever. Religious fags are insane.
>>539248593>Literal heaven>with Jesus Christ>with God>with the Holy Spirit>all the angels and saints>giving worship and prayers to God>literally paradise>jew thinks this is badenjoy hell then idgaf, if instead of eternal peace you want eternal suffering. Go for it, not my problem.
>>539248687What's so good about any of the shit you listed?
>>539249182he has the roman catholic view of heaven.the bible tells us we will live with God on earth for eternity without any of this satanic bullshit society we are living in today. heaven and earth will be created a new and we receive bodies of glory.God will give you a very good reason to worship him out of your own desire.
>>539248593> Imagine this shit is going on forever.Technically it goes forever because you didn't experience time before you were born and probably won't experience it after you life on this Earth ceases. I say probably because I don't deny the possibility of some type of afterlife. My main gripe is how will information be transferred to this afterlife and what version of "you" will it be? When you were in your 20s? Or when you were in your 50s (if you even made it that far)?
>>539248593Religion was created by rich fags to make sure they don't get eaten alive by the disgruntled poor fags. Imagine being a strong peasant meeting a rich old (((merchant))) on the road wearing more gold than you could earn in 3 lifetimes. No one around, and no cops and forensics back then. One swift stab in the gut and all that gold could be his. The only thing that stayed his hand was the thought he would end up in Hell.
>>539250394>be peasantfag>see richfag>rob him>I'm now the richfag>see peasantfagTypical nearsighted gypsy
>>539250394the fear of hell never prevented uprisings.stupid argument.
>>539250394No religion was invented to control the masses. Religion was the first central authority that protected the masses from the roaming barbarians as you just mentioned. It also taught people to read and write. Religion is for normie NPCS basically. That's why churches are safe havens.
>>539248593i miss rotten.com
>>539250863>No religion was invented to control the masses. Religion was the first central authority that protected the masses from the roaming barbarians as you just mentioned. It also taught people to read and write.>Religion is for normie NPCS basically. That's why churches are safe havens.Atheism is for midwit NPC normies, only the truly intelligent understand religion
>>539248593You cannot experience your own non existence. In a purely materialist universe you will eventually be reconstituted after death unless said universe becomes permanently unable to support life or some alternative construct able to host your consciousness. Because this occurs through pure chance it will likely take an unfathomable amount of time (think of the biggest number you can then raise it to 10 to the power of the same number to get an idea of the time scales we're talking about) before this happens but from your perspective it will be instantaneous. By the same statistical reasoning what you're experiencing now is likely a median experience. That to me is far more horrifying than a dualism style afterlife.
>>539249548Upon having reached old age i can attest to you that your body is not representative of what your true form is. Remember before you were born you never had a physical body. So when you die you won't either. It's a silly concept to assume you take on the form of your birth form or death form. As either you would be a placentae in heaven or how you died. It makes no logical sense it would work out this way.It's vanity to assume otherwise which of course you are still experiencing as a young being. >>539251166Religion was invented just anything else on this earth. Are you saying man was a beast before he invented religion so it's tied to man? Are you saying atheist barbarians are not part of the humanity of man?
>>539251235Since nobody remembers a consciousness before birth why would they after death? Seems to me the consciousness is just your ego personified representative of your biological form.
>>539250579In that case, the new richfag would kill the newly-encountered peasantfag because he's stronger. The previous richfag was a noodle-armed, pencil-necked weakling.
>>539251235> before this happens but from your perspective it will be instantaneousThat's a thing we are absolutely sure of since we can understand that from experience. You didn't have to wait thousands of years before it was your turn to be born. You could say that from your perspective, time before your consciousness didn't really exist. So if there is some new form of existence after this one (you can call it an afterlife, I don't care), then it has to be instantaneous, from your perspective.
>>539248593My intuition and the evidence for reincarnation make me think that the idea that our souls get trapped here is probably correct. I am not sure about loosh harvesting or anything like that, but perhaps we get addicted to the material world on a spiritual level. Almost like a corruption or metamorphosis of sorts. Perhaps we need to cycle through a certain amount of permutations before we can leave this place.So, no afterlife but another life on this planet, with no guarantee that it would be a human life.
>>539251497>Since nobody remembers a consciousness before birth Not entirely true. There are some pretty compelling accounts of accurate past life rememberance. >>539251648
>>539251898I don't believe that but money does change people. So much so that people try to take it with them by burying themselves with their wealth.
>>539248593Could be as comfy as going to sleep every night.
>>539248687>Go for it, not my problem.spreads his jewish nonsense, wonders why there's resistance to more shalom indoctrination. >kys rabbi
>>539249545>the bible tells us we will live with God on earth for eternity without any of this satanic bullshit society we are living in today. heaven and earth will be created a new and we receive bodies of glory.Catholics believe this too, but >>539248687 is also correct for Jesus said many, many times that in His Kingdom we'll "live as the angels do" i.e. incessant praise and worship to God. It's the Proddy cucks that think Heaven is like some big party and you get to still enjoy Earthly pleasures like eating and drinking or driving a big Ford truck or living in a McMansion.
>>539248687Hell awaits us all, because non-existence is heaven.
>>539248593What's wrong with living in a loving and sinless world that is united under God?But then again you are from a Protestant country so your opinion is invalid
>>539248593Insanity is living in a delusion because you refuse to accept Truth.
>>539248687death is like the time before you are born.
>>539249548>>539251289Roman Catholic tradition holds that you're resurrected as a 33 year old, or as you'd appear at 33 if you died before then, and in your peak physical condition.Disclaimer: I don't really identify as a practicing Catholic anymore for obvious reasons, I think the church is just important for the Western tradition.
>>539248687Sounds like hell but boring and gay
>>539248593is that from rotten.com?I got a PC when I was 9 or 10 I think with a printer and all the extra stuff you used to get. Someone told me about rotten.com and I used to print the pictures off and bring them in school to show my friends, I got in a lot of trouble when the teacher found it. It was the one where some guy was missing half of his face. I think it was from a motorcycle accident or something
do they have 4chan in heaven?
>>539252369It was this one
>>539248593Idk man, i'm terrified of not existing or the future happening without me having any place in it but then I feel completely at peace about thinking about times before I existed.
>>539251289But why would you think that living eternally is a favourable outcome? We can't even enjoy the best party ever for more than a few hours so what makes you think you could enjoy heaven forever?
>>539252200when Jesus said we will be like the angels he tells us we will have bodies of glory just like the angels have.do you have any clue what angels do in heaven?yes, we will praise and worship God, but not in the roman catholic manner like roman catholics have come up with.an angel is a job description more than anything, implying direct purpose in the kingdom of God.also it was about the issue who will be with a women when she married multiple men and Jesus outright told them they have no fucking clue what they are talking about.>Earthly pleasures like eating and drinkingwe will have Mansions (not mcmansions) in New Jerusalem that Jesus builds for us, we will have food of the Tree of Life and feast with our Lord.what this stupid catholic seethe all the time, the Word tells us outright. fuck your stupid roman teachings and traditions of man where youre some fucking angel flapping like a bird around God in endless praise with no real purpose of existence.
>>539248593Why is your corpse a nigger?
>>539248593Sorry but you're getting reincarnated
>>539252667Because your true self is a soul or sprit not tied to your physical being. It's completely unknown because we as mortals cannot really comprehend what an afterlife is. All we know is when we reached consciousness and when we no longer do.
>>539251648The new life of luxury and lack of hard labor will ensure you'll become the new noodle-armed pencil-necked weakling.
>>539248593qrd on ur pic rel?
>>539250896Ogrish was better
>>539252894Just the logo for rotten.com
>>539248593>You really are an idiot if you think existence ends at death. That’s just too good to be true and it contradicts the obvious observation that a lot of "effort" went into creating this conscious experience. To just be free from this all as if nothing ever happened and rest in eternal oblivion, now that’s something I wish you were right about. Of course there’s hardly a point in arguing with you since you are probably not conscious anyway.
>>539252801Ok well if it is completely unknown then why would you think it's going to be great? And committing to something unknown forever sounds intense...
>>539253032oh shit, thanks anon.
>>539253085I don't claim to understand or know what comes after death. But your consciousness had to come from somewhere. That's why i asked the other poster if man itself is a social construct and assuming that's true our consciousness was too. So beast was created into man via evolution which debunks the whole afterlife concept. Nobody knows what comes after death. We just know that new life has a consciousness and i believe religion simply hyjacked this for its own purposes. One day people decided to stop living like "animals" and tried to become "godlike".
>>539249548It won't be "you" it will be your counsiousness/soul that continues, your earthly personality/avatar will perish forever.
>>539252369>is that from rotten.com?It's a painting by Jean Colombe (1400's). But yeah they used it on rotten.com. I miss that website.
>>539249548https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522216881/#522222365
>>539255339If you consider the zero sum universe from quantum foam fluctuations, the infinite multiverse being an infinite landscape of quantum foam fluctuations then you end up with an infinitely long cycle of universes coming into being on an infinite scale. Since you have an infinite number of universes then you have an infinite number of matter configurations or substrate. If for example you have numbers as concepts that exist within different substrates then you can have a stream of numbers. For example the number one exists as a concept when you look at one apple, if you isolate one cell within the apple, one protein, one molecule, one atom ect. Since a concept like a number can exist in different substrates. Then what is stopping more complicated concepts from reappearing in an infinite substrate? What would it take to stop your consciousness from reappearing in another substrate as long as there is some logical justification? If the substrate is infinite and the time frame is infinite? Essentially you get the babel library of consciousness where you exist as a consciousness for an infinite amount of time. Since you can’t experience non existence. That completely debunks christcuckery.
>>539255526Based on the assumptions of positive, negative energy and infinity. If you consider consciousness as an infinite stream independent of the biological body then your consciousness will simply continue in an alternative reality or a different universe potentially an infinite number of years from now.Just as you have no experience of the billions of years of life before your first awareness. You will have no knowledge of reality, universe and time shifts. This is beyond a question of time and space.You are like a book written in an infinite number of realities in an infinite number of locations in a completely randomised time frame that guarantees a continuous stream of consciousness. This book has an infinite length and you have read through a minuscule number of pages. You are the reader that maintains the knowledge of the previous pages. In some universes and realities the book ends but in others it continues. As such you as the reader are shifting between universes, time and realities to continue reading. To you these shifts of trillions of years or infinite distances are irrelevant.Now while consciousness is infinite. The state is not particularly static. Waking up from a “human life” simulator/game, a “character judge sorter” in a technologically advanced world, as part of a godhead in a monstrous body, as a computer program, as a planet sized ai or from a drug infused dream within a different body in a different reality is an active continuation of consciousness. As such no laws are broken for consciousness continuation. Odds are that the most likely consciousness continuation are of a higher consciousness from which your personal experience is disregarded for some sort of average. Being one of millions, billions or trillions of consciousnesses with a near infinite awareness as compared to a human. The shifts to higher planes of consciousness would also be infinite.
>>539255574How can something come from nothing? If you have an equal amount of positive and negative energy. 0 = 0. 1 - 1 = 0.Without matter/space the passage of time itself is infinite. As such the universe operates under different laws. Through which positive and negative matter exist.Just as the universe itself exists as a sum of nothing. The individual exists as a sum of nothing. Therefore the individual exists in a state of non existence. As do alternative realities that do not function by the laws of this universe. Therefore there is nothing preventing the individual consciousness from existing infinitely under the condition that this reality is infinite.As such is there anything stopping your consciousness from continuing in an infinite ever expanding and ever growing manner? As an amalgamation of potentially an infinite number of consciousnesses. Your death in this world will be a transition to another reality in another universe. There is no way for you to even be able to judge if your consciousness hasn’t shifted an infinite number of times through an infinite number of realities creating a supposedly seamless transition in experience. Just as this universe can exist as a non-existent sum that must exist due to a lack of space leading to a lack of time leading to an infinite loop of negative and positive matter existing in explosions of separations as a sort of spontaneous universal heart beat of existence?
>>539255655The laws of nature(biological) would still apply in every universe. Any universe or existence without these particular laws and particular circumstances wouldn’t be able to produce life that can experience it and therefore judge its laws for being logical. As such even if you had an infinite stream of universes and realities but only one had the conditions for life. It would only be this one reality that we would be experiencing right now.Let’s consider that with quantum fluctuations, quantum randomness, the cyclical universe model and convergent evolution. We could have a string of universes coming into existence and fading into nothingness. Each one would be slightly different. Yet the universes that can support life and therefore consciousness would have a certain set of laws that would produce similar life forms as we can witness through convergent evolution. As such we should consider the possibility of a species expanding out and occupying an entire galaxy. An empire of such scale would posses technology that would look like magic to us today. This could extend as far as entire planet sized computers that simulate an entire galaxy and therefore conscious beings. With such large virtual worlds this empire could select certain types of conscious beings, have their own members trained or tested under various scenarios, have realistic video games or explore this virtual world. As such a person from our reality(base reality 1) could end up in a different physical body in another universe(reality infinity + 1).
>>539255705In a situation where an entire galaxy is colonised. How much content would it contain? Culture? Art? Music? Games? Books? Movies? Manga? Anime? What could its computers and ai produce? For a civilisation that is a thousand times older and trillions of times larger than ours. Where each individual is biologically immortal and superior in intellect, function, memory, behaviour, self-control and looks. Where do you find meaning? What kind of individual would society look for? To be eternally submerged in new experiences an individual would become no different to a parasite. It would desire someone who can either harness that desire for purpose or someone without desire. Yet, how could intellect exist without desire. The desire for new experiences seems fundamental for conscious life. Without that you would be left with meek puppets on strings. Perhaps this would be efficient in some way. Would this system be ideal? Why don’t we exist in the same manner as cells or insects? The problem is power. Just as our own efficiency attracts abuse through tyrants and parasites of various magnitudes. So too would an advanced empire struggle with cancer and parasites. What is our solution for removing both? To take away their leverage; the normie. Therefore such an advanced society would utterly despise unthinking drones, the shallow, the conformist and these without awareness. They present the greatest threat to any collective system reliant on conscious individuals.
>>539248593Anon reinvents buddhism
>>539255776Some doubt the potential of organic lifeforms, despite the fact that our bodies are in essence organic machines. Let’s humour that idea. Maybe the machines, technology and AI will provide the necessary crutch for advanced civilisation? Perhaps organic consciousness will no longer be necessary in such a world? In that case, what is the purpose of its growth? Why would a civilisation grow and exist unless it follows the laws of nature? Should you even reach the point where machines overcome humans then at that point what is the distinction between organic self replicating machines and synthetics? If AI consciousness dwarfs organic consciousness then why would it avoid the laws of nature. As long as it considers its own continuation as important and it keeps increasing in complexity, then this will lead to divergence and competition between machines. Should continuation be ignored or not seen as valuable then these machines will cease to exist. You still end up with cancer and parasitism being a challenge to the maintenance of such a civilisation. If these laws transformed chemical reactions into humans and civilisations then what is the point at which universal laws no longer apply? With machines and AI you return to the starting point. The same point that we stand at.
>>539255855Could the start of the universe be simulated in parts? From a very simple overview to the formation of galaxies and planets and later a fully detailed observation of processes and within a single solar system?If a Boltzmann brain is possible. If matter can come into existence as a non-existent sum. Then the odds of a big bang must be greater than the odds of a Boltzmann brain capable of simulating our reality. A big bang and the formation of a universe only requires matter which can be arranged through the laws of nature into consciousness living organisms. Unlike the odds of a Boltzmann brain. Simply put the likelihood of a Boltzmann brain is lower than the likelihood of a big bang and the formation of a new universe. At which point consciousness is guaranteed to come into existence due to scale and the laws of nature.
>>539255920To understand the concept of consciousness we must consider other concepts first. For example let’s consider the concept of numbers and mathematics. We can look at an apple tree to see the singular. The number 1. We can focus on a single apple hanging on one of its branches to see the number 1. We could with a microscope look at a single cell within this apple. We could look at the molecules within this apple to identify a singular unit that can be counted as 1. We can go further and identify a single atom that exists as part of this molecule. Essentially we can find universal concepts within the material world. Based life could be considered in the same way. These physical shapes composed of elements arranged in 3 dimensions could be interpreted in the same way as numbers. An element could be its own unique number, a molecule could be its own unique number, a protein could be considered as such. Therefore so could dna strands, cells and organisms. Which means that your body, brain and your memories have a mathematical and numerical description.
True, good thing our consciousness is no more without a functioning brain.Just sweet sweet release of Death
>>539255978Let’s imagine pingpong balls in a container. Each ball in a square container. Similar to say a Minecraft world where you have blocks that can represent structures. With for example 3 by 3 by 3 blocks or pingpong balls you can have 27 blocks in a single area. You could also have empty spaces within this area, this gives us a binary option for each space. Now, what if you consider all the possible configurations within this 3 by 3 by 3 area? Just in a 3 by 3 space you could have 2^9 or 512 options. So for a 3 by 3 by 3 area you will have 2^27 or 134,217,728 possible configurations. Now consider that most cells within our bodies contain our genome. The genome has around 3 billion base pairs with around 50 atoms per base pair and therefore around 150 billion atoms per genome. Mostly composed of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and phosphorus. A human cell has around 100 trillion atoms. That would be like having a cube around 50 thousand blocks wide and tall. Therefore the total number of configurations when considering just five elements(we also have trace elements in our bodies) would be 6 to the power of 10 to the power of 14. That number is greater than the number of atoms that make up the universe. That is for just one cell without considering any of the other elements that make up the human body. That also doesn’t consider the formation of these atoms either. The human brain has around 200 billion cells. Even if we consider that it might be possible for other non-organic systems to simulate human consciousness with a smaller number of atoms then we would need to question the origin of our memories, experiences and their coherence in a cause and effect oriented narrative which would drastically decrease the odds of such consciousness.
>>539256084Potentially we could have an infinite number of bubble universes that never touch and which cycle through from a big bang to a complete heat death. We could also have one universe at a time and big bangs that cycle eternally. The exact nature of our existence is uncertain.With infinite universes. Would you not end up with an infinite variety of earths and European peoples? Some achieving great success and colonising the galaxy and some failing? Yet all would have one basic origin point. Would this origin be analysed by a civilisation that has a basis in the European peoples? So with advanced enough technology would it not become possible to explore or bring to life figures from past eras?
>>539248687Boring, I'd rather bo spooning with Satan in hell but it doesn't matter, your religious delusions are what they are, mass psychosis
>>539256120What is genuine experience worth? In a world of near infinite books, movies, games, guaranteed food, safety and tranquility. What if all your needs are taken care of from birth? To live in a sterile environment. Without the fear of unnatural death, without disease or aging? At a certain point the primal experience of a ‘wild’ human is worth its weight in gold so to speak. To experience fear, joy, anger, to witness devastation, to take a risk, to fight illness, to challenge fate, to live through the most historic moments of your species through your own ancestors. To experience a wild and primordial Earth.
>>539256183In terms of afterlife judgement. No matter the future situation, it would be the judgement of the individuals logic, awareness based on their experienced data and their general reaction. In the span of a million or billion years, how many religions could come and go? Therefore judgement can be only be on general reactions. Such as courage, self-sacrifice, efficient behaviour, personal growth or development in a given timeframe, shortsighted betrayal. I don’t believe that a civilisation aiming for truth, individual quality and resilience would look favourably on an individual who falls for a nihilistic worldview, a primitive religion, any form of senseless hedonism, something constructed by social parasites or for the general social consensus during a great crisis. That would be contrary to the continued existence of such a civilisation. Just as today the normies, shirkers, cowards and social cancer are a massive obstacle to overcome for the European peoples to survive.Yet what is a person? What if at this current point in time you suddenly found yourself in another body with your current state of mind. Would you still be you? How do we define ‘you’ or ‘me’?
>>539248593>>539250896dont remind me of those beautiful days before boomers and women had discovered the internet
>>539256220Another question to ponder would be if you will ever meet people from this life in the next? I think that we are passengers on a metaphorical bus. On some bus stops certain individuals are destined to get off. Some within this bubble of existence within the next billion years, some could get off in a hundred million universal cycles.If a civilisation had the technology to simulate a big bang. What would the likelihood of them simulating the universe that they are from? Isn’t there an infinite number of universes that could be simulated? How could they even identify their original world?It is impossible to experience the bliss of non existence thus we are fated to experience eternally. From joy to suffering.If we can go from one universe to another through simulations. Then could we go to another a second time? At which point would it be too difficult to simulate a universe? What if it is too complicated in the first place? That is an assumption of the limit of technology or is an assumption of the potential of technology too bold?
>>539256294What if there is more to reality than what we can witness. Perhaps there are different forms of substrate that can hold our concepts in place?What if it isn’t necessary to simulate the entire universe at once? What if a single solar system is simulated fully? What if there are gradients to simulations?The means and the justifications don’t matter. Infinity will drag you out from one substrate to the next. Even if the means are beyond our understanding. If your consciousness becomes smaller through each jump then you will achieve oblivion. Eternal peace and rest from suffering. Yet how could you exist if you are not conscious and aware? Thus infinity forces upon you either a stable level of consciousness and awareness or increasing levels. What does that mean? The super organism becoming one consciousness. Million to billions to trillions being one. The desire for oblivion from the super organism once again split into trillions of minor experiences.
>>539250896Instantly what I thought of.
>>539256344The most desired outcome of existence is not infinity nor the satisfaction of infinite desire. It’s oblivion.Logic would have it that only the most exceptional, the most heroic and the best would be picked by an advanced collective. Yet, perhaps they would seek the stable and mundane?Does a hero have a racial element? Does Hercules enter Olympus? Does a heroic warrior enter Valhalla? What kind of hero fights for a foreign people? What kind of hero disregards his family? His clan and his collective? That isn’t a hero. Morality is based on the continuation of a collective. Only a hero aware of his own collective and the importance of its continuation can be judged as good. There are no traitorous heroes in Valhalla or Elysium.There is nothing extreme about wanting to stay alive and fighting against the genocide of your people.
>>539256411A consciousness is an observer. It has no interaction with the body. The body and the mind respond to the material reality that created the body. In other words we are watching a ball tumbling down a mountain. Even the idea or thoughts experienced by the body that we are aware that this is just an observation of this chain of cause and effect is part of this balls fall. So in effect a body is not private from the perspective of consciousness. It can be watched like a movie through a different ball tumble in another reality which itself is like a body operating solely on cause and effect. Which makes consciousness something strange. Now since we are in essence just a movie like experience then any other movie like experience that goes through us will become ‘us’. Just as in a movie an actor can change, do good or evil so can your vessel. Yet you the continuation of consciousness are just the one watching the movie. At the same time you are the watcher of a movie within a movie. The watcher has no interaction with the movie, they have no way to change the predetermined actions. Unless this is a special interactive movie but that would be a different ball game. This is why conditions that affect the brain or memory have no effect on the consciousness after death. The watcher is watching a movie, they are not the actor. There is no memory loss.
>>539248593If you were born by accident once, and everything we can see in the universe seems to be based on repetitive cycles, then wouldn't it be illogical to think you won't be accidentally born again? Reincarnation just makes scientific sense. Linear Time Enthusiasts tongue my anus
>>539256442Just as rock tumbling down a mountain has a cause and effect origin starting with the big bang leading up to the formation of the mountain and its separation from the main rock formation. The rock may fall and tumble down the mountain only to shatter at the base. We are the same. Our bodies are the result of cause and effect in the universe. A process of change.What happens is that yes you are the living you, you are the actor in the movie. But once you die you will become the viewer of the movie with the knowledge of the actor but in the end it will be a new movie. Your actions today and tomorrow influence the chain of cause and effect for all eternity. Just as the survival of our ancestors have shaped the experience of billions of their descendants.The soul entrapment concept is interesting. What if in an interactive movie we find the phenomenon of soul entrapment at the age of 2 thus explaining the very strange occurrence of children talking about future events that have yet to transpire?
>>539256494Once you reach a sufficient technological level. With both ai, technology and drones. Would it not be possible to have a Dyson sphere with a drone fleet that turns everything available in a solar system into more drones? Would a solar system fully utilised by drones not be able to colonise the entire galaxy given enough time? Just keep sending drones to every single solar system. If it takes say 10,000 years to travel a single light year and the galaxy is 100,000 light years wide. Let’s assume that we start in the middle. That would mean that it would take around half a billion years to colonise an entire galaxy. Advanced technology might allow for even faster travel. Once you have colonised the galaxy and constructed more Dyson spheres would it not be logical that vast computers that are incomprehensible to us with technology that is extremely far beyond us and with clever energy saving simulation frameworks could simulate multiple planets per Dyson sphere?
>>539256542A civilisation might implement a foundational law that guarantees that despite the upkeep costs that consciousness which have committed great acts of evil no matter the species within these simulations are subject to billions of years of torture as a way of keeping their own population in check. Along with some Elysium type world hundreds of times the size of Earth with the same gravity strength for ‘heroes’. This would be our equivalent of a justice system and human rights. The first species to take over a galaxy would become judge and god of billions of other galaxies.Just as convergent evolution prefers the crab or cat like organisms in certain environments so would the laws of nature influence certain interactions in any civilisation. Because the laws of nature are universal. Certain moralities, ideas or concepts would be convergent. Every civilisation would have them. So the idea of different species having similar judgements or idea is not impossible.
>>539256582What if simulations are broken into parts. Like a basic big bang, a basic evolution of a galaxy along with basic movements of meteors but with a more advanced simulation of worlds in the Goldilocks zone?What is stopping existence from being infinite going left going right going forward going backward going down or going up? I mean that there are an infinite number of universes like blips coming and going into existence eternally like quantum foam. This entire universal sized quantum foam could even be something that beings in another scale/dimension look at in the same way we look at quantum foam.
>>539256663The problem boils down to the probability of a new universe forming from a big bang or a Boltzmann brain existing. Which can’t exist without elements which can’t exist without a supernovae which can’t exist without a big bang. The brain would also have to be constructed in the correct order at a fast enough speed to not degenerate. It would also have to be at a stable temperature.There needs to be an order and a certain timing to spontaneously create a human brain. You wouldn’t be able to create it over the period of a billion years while at the same time you can’t have particles slamming into the necessary configuration at the speed of light.
>>539256710Therefore the issue with probability and the idea of something like the Boltzmann brain coming into existence is like an assumption that a world with a purely salt water ocean and sand alone could through gusts of winds and colliding sand create a functional F-22 raptor. The materials for the aircraft don’t even exist. It doesn’t matter how much times passes. The elements or substrate required won’t pop into existence within this world. So an infinite amount of time in which sands are being blown around into mounds by the wind will never lead to that working f-22 if the substrate required to manifest the f-22 does not exist even if an infinite amount of time passes.
>>539256762The crossroads between deception and order. The path of oblivion or sophistication creates circumstances in which an advanced civilisation could be inclined to test its new born citizen applicants. Only a fresh slate and a lack of awareness regarding the purpose of a simulation can showcase the true character of an individual. Would such tests impact cause and effect? Could personality precepts be ingrained within a single individual for the purpose of testing? Could hundreds of thousands of applicants be in existence concurrently within a single simulation instance?
>>539250896I miss 100 Sickest Toplist Hosting Site. It was the OG Tor
>>539256811Consciousness is an illusion as a part of a type of observer effect through which cause and effect processes are more like a streamed movie and are interpreted as the feelings and actions of the observer. Thus solving the brain to consciousness paradox that considers factors like the death state conditions of humans versus the idea of the soul. As such consciousness is a cascade of inception like experiences as if movies are stacked in an infinite manner. To put it simply the current experience is that of a man in a room which is really the experience of a man watching a tv showing the man in the room which is actually the experience of a man watching a man watching a tv showing a man in a room. Everything is an illusion of sensory data where none of the data experienced is ever factual.A fantasy realm scenario post death could just be another rug pull test for character even if it seems to be a sophistication/experience/holiday simulation.
>>539256855What if multiverse peeking is possible combined with machines that can from gleaned data produce and or maintain a simulation. Thus an experience could be both real and simulated at the same time. This would break through the infinite nestled consciousness paradox as the data stream could continue in an infinite manner. Because you can’t store an infinite amount of data, right? At the very least you can’t simulate a universe in a universe in an infinite nestled doll manner. The computational power required would be greater than that produced by the universe itself. Through such means all of existence and every universe would be connected as one giant brain.
>>539256927>26 posts by this IDstfu kike fuck your multiverse quantum kikenoncery. Christ is King.
>>539250896Those were the days. Me and my equally fucked up teenage friends would spend whole afternoons laughing our asses of at rotten.com. Fucking normalfags ruined the internet.
>>539248687Explain to us all how you know this for a fact. You can't, you are only repeating what you were told by someone else...
>>539259437I was an Ogrish guy. Watched all the beheadings, even the Daniel Pearl video.
>>539248687You're a dumb nigger piece of shit. You're gonna get torn apart in (((heaven))) and you'll deserve it!
>>539261670Because Christ is King.
>>539248687How Christlike of youYou'll be dying like a dog
>>539261788Pretty sure he got his ass kicked, but it's a good story for the poor, right? Sacrifice, giving up, embracing victimism....I'm out here IRL telling everyone this. We're getting rid of you kikes
>>539248593>i just want to exist in the dirt and rot until i'm literally nothing forever, that sounds like an appealing existenceAnon are you fucking mad?
>>539249548Souls are purified in the fires of suffering on the earth. You get to keep the best parts, if you decide to return (or even if you don't).
>>539261877He died for my sins, that I may live. I love Jesus. Repent, and you may come with us. Get rid of us, I don't care, the kingdom is not of this world.>Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.I'll see you later. Or not, not my problem.
>>539248593wait till you enter hell retard, the problems of this life are nothing compared to eternity
>>539251898The earth is designed for us to suffer, but also to experience joy, etc. It's just a medium, so you're right that materialism can warp your sense of what is important. All the important things are non-material: love, accomplishment, wisdom.
>>539262005Jesus was a lefty. A true carpenter doesn't get crucified, bud.
>>539248687>the one supposedly who created this shit hellhole of a planet >also the creator of this cul de sac of achievement called the human race>spending an entire afterlife worshipping him>paradisegrim
>>539248593I have been clinically dead before, there is nothing. Religious fags will try to groom you into saying you saw God, jesus the devil or any number of other things.There is nothing.No perception of time.No feeling.No blackness.NOTHING.
>>539262226>Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?As it was written, so shall it be. Come with us anon, repent and be free of this. Be at peace.
>>539262381You're a kike, so that probably is what happens to kikes.
>>539262381You probably weren't dead then.
>>539262437You don't even know what kike means. I write the cross. T T + + T T T THE IS RISEN. Come with us anon, do not damn yourself to hell. I love you, and so does Jesus.
So when they stormed the church in Minneapolis recently and not a single, cowardly regular didn't throw a single punch.... Whats the cope then? because attendance dropped nationwide after that and witnessing that church people won't even fight for themselves, they let anybody in their doors, and when invaders come they didn't fight back. Attendance nationwide dropped after this, I want you to explain to me why we should consider our churches even RELEVANT>Doing nothing is good, goy>Love thy enemy, yes>We're victimstypical christcuck bullshit the country no longer wants to be a part of
>>539262392Jews need wordplay. They can't speak direct. We're getting rid of you fuckers and I'm making your lives and agenda difficult. The pleasure is all mine
>>539248593Its funny, hell is a real place, otherwise there is no eternal justice
>>539262567>Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.Christ saves anon, be saved. You still have time, don't fall into the shadow of lies. I will pray for your salvation, but I can't do all of the work. I love you anon, be safe, and find Christ.
>>539262437No, im not you retard. I am telling the truth.Why do you shills always resort to ad hominems? You are the one holding onto jewish fairytales and pushing lies. You should look into a mirror.
>>539248593i miss rotten.comi love isekai slop but at least i recognize it's just wishfulfillment and power fantasiesimagine being so immoral you need isekai temptation and threat to behave like a civilized human
>>539262646Get the fuck out of my country, Jew. I'm looking for people like you
>>539262502That kike can go to hell, for all of his crimes.
>>539262381This is biblically accurate, you are dead until you are raised again for resurrection/judgment. Good luck.
>>539262863BASED
>>539262761>>539262769>Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.I forgive you, find Christ.
>>539248593>foreveryou just get reincarnated over and over again. Different lives, with no memory of the past one.
>>539263080I get inside church goers ears. You will lose and there's nothing you can do to stop us. Your gig is up, you failed your own
>>539263080I already found him, he's just another kike.
>>539262507Not a single response to THIS from the kikes. Here's your proof our churches no longer serve the people!
Where do I know OP's image from?
>>539262381Same with me, but it only reinforced my beliefs. It's like what >>539262863SaysI think we all get resurrected when Jesus returns, and then we all get judged, and the wicked return to the void while the righteous live forever in the world to come. I thought this before my overdose and clinical death and the experience of death only reinforced my beliefs. I believe I was on the path to hell, which is nonexistence. Some people like that idea, though, not existing, but ever since I woke back up from the dead, I've been dreading the day I die for real.
>>539263176nice larp shlomo, it will not save you
>>539256052Can’t wait
