How low will spacex go?
50
>>539287359It's designed to reach an altitude of zero.
>>539287660So many people got scammed.
>>539287359$50 sounds like a more appropriate number
>>539287752The hyperloop bullshit should have been their first clue not to invest in this indian scammer.
>>539287863I think he's digging tunnels and building a hovering cruise ship to prepare for Younger Dryas 2but it might be 250 years away
how many people have had their retirements ruined so far because of this? Isnt this supposed to cause some sort of horrible recession?
Got in at 160 out at 210 ez moneyHolding was never a good plan
>>539288276This is the scam of borrowing $1 from everyone in the world then not returning it. Most pension and investment funds were forced to buy it, but not enough for a huge decline. Everyone is slightly poorer and Elon is much richer, but not enough to be noticeable.
>>539287926>Younger Dryas 2There will never a Flood 2.0. The world will be destroyed by so-called "AI" and WMD's.
>>539287752>scammedSo many people are financially illiterate. If you didn't see this coming, you shouldn't be investing
Based on their potential revenues in launches, starling etc, and ignoring the AI nonsense, their true valuation should be in the ballpark of $13.41-26.81 per share.It will probably stop crashing at 50-70 though.
>>539287359As low as the dalits that work there
The reported $405 million in retail buying could represent only a small part of the potential wealth transfer. The effect could be magnified through the greater liquidity, leverage, and speculative intensity of the cryptocurrency market.Under this theory, the strategy would require a second wave of SpaceX selling. Investors would need to spend enough time holding losses to lose confidence and begin viewing themselves as trapped bag holders. At that point, they may become vulnerable to abandoning SpaceX for an asset that appears to offer an immediate recovery.Capital could then begin flowing into Bitcoin as the market is flooded with narratives about reclaiming $100,000 and breaking beyond its previous all-time high. If Bitcoin begins rallying during a second SpaceX sell-off, it may suggest that this rotation is occurring, although price correlation alone would not prove coordination.As Bitcoin rises, discouraged SpaceX holders may sell at a loss and redirect their remaining capital into crypto out of fear of missing the next major rally. The expectation of a new all-time high would itself generate demand. The breakout would not even need to be sustainable; it would only need to appear credible long enough to attract late retail buyers.Once those investors have capitulated and moved into Bitcoin, larger holders could sell into the new retail demand. Their profits could then be rotated back into SpaceX at a depressed valuation.This would create a two-stage transfer of wealth. Retail investors first crystallise losses by selling SpaceX, then risk buying Bitcoin near the peak of a manufactured rally. Better-positioned capital exits Bitcoin into that liquidity and accumulates the SpaceX shares retail investors abandoned.The strongest evidence would be simultaneous SpaceX selling, aggressive Bitcoin promotion, rising retail inflows, expanding leverage, large Bitcoin holders distributing, and significant accumulation of SpaceX.New round of selling soon.
>>539287752Every competent analyst was warning it was grossly overvalued. The P/E ratio was something ridiculous like 1000. A fairly valued company is more like 20. SpaceX has no actual revenue beyond Starlink and that brings in a tiny amount of money compared to any other large tech company, it's a company built on a promise of future riches that may never eventuate.
>>539287359Now that China has stolen all of their IP, all the way to the bottom. It's only a matter of time before China works out the kinks and produces it for pennies on the dollar being subsidized by the CCP to further the Chinese takeover of the world.
>>539289016Good, fuck jeetlon
>>539287359even lower, after today's second launch abort in a row. The enshitification has just begun.>Go public>Get cursed
>>539287359> Wipe out half a trillion dollars> No effect whatsoever on the economyUh?
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>>539289838>one S&P ticket>affect the whole economywhat? everyone knew it was a rugpull so it was already factored in anyway
There's no reason to invest in a company that drives you from where you leave to exactly where you take off and there's no destination for it to go to. It's essentially a retarded billionaire's funfair.
>>539289838What you call as 'wipe out half a trillion'is people selling their shares and buying other stuff in the economy with the money they gained. If anything, it's helping the economy by providing capital to other businesses
EDS thread
>>539287359did you know elon musk gang stalks me
>>539291548You need images like that to get over your erectile dysfunction syndrome?
>this is a nasdaq 100 company
>>539287359Peter Lynch’s once said something like, if you are asking “how low could it really go?” The answer is lower than you can imagine. Sell it now.
>>539287359>spacex is an actually unlimited money generating machine and has a monopoly on space>xAI is an actual grift and is the reason why spacex doesnt make revenuepretty fucking dumb they put these two companies together, I would love to invest in the real spacex
>a publicly traded company >sells nothing to the public its a hat and t-shirt business..dumbass should have stayed in his lane. now its time for a new ceo.
>>539289838money does not get wiped out in the stock market, it just moves somewhere else.
zoom out
>>539288276>>539288452i thought the pensions arent forced to buy it until 6 months from the listing date? so hasnt happened yet
>>539288964meanwhile, tesla is like 10x of regular automobile companies, depite having a worse everything all around the boardits a fair consideration, anything musk is involved in, does not follow the typical market rules
>>539287359if /pol/ noticed, that means its done going down.
>>539287359lower. then hang at ATL for a few years and the go to the moon.I've see/been through this before with the Coinbase IPO.never again, but waiting to buy your bags.too big to fail.
>>539287359With China doing this? I would say it goes all the way down lol
>>539287359$80ish EOY$0 eventually, unless they get bailed out by the US govt and nationalized / incorporated into NASA. Their technology is cutting edge but it needs another 2-3 funding rounds. The IPO is actually a desperate move to secure cash.
>>539287359idk $50 probably. it isn't worth shit right now but might be in a decade or two.
>>539295037Jews won't cede space to the chinks.>>539295323Yes it will get whatever funding is required, although in the short-medium term it will go lower. It was a mistake to bundle AI into it. Gotta cash in on the hype though.
>>539295037Actually nit important. That's the Falcon-equivalent.The first successful Falcon booster landing was in 2015, so China is 10+ years behind. We won't see testflights on a fake Starship for another decade at least.
>>539295655Consider the following: reusable rockets are a gimmick that wind up costing more money to refurbish and whatnot than just throwing them away and building new ones.
>>539295919>refurbish and whatnotI too buy a new car when it runs out of gas.
>>539287359I am looking at $10~$5, the chasm
>>539296399>shooting a rocket into space is the same as me driving to Walmart
>>539296621>Paying an inspector and replacing parts as needed is more expensive than building a new rocket from scratch every time.You aren't even trying.
>>539287359>How low will spacex go?Zero eventually.Perhaps it will even go negative and create a real vacuum, not like the fake and gay one they pretend to shoot rockets into.
>>539287359Well Playboy, Inc. is $1,21 a share, a virtual penny stock that’s making bank off selling bunny merch to browns. NASA is miles ahead of Musk now. They don’t need to test and blow up reusable rockets. NASA is already planning on building a helium 3 excavation site on the moon and a NASA oribe will do a flyby by 2030 mapping the entire surface of Jupiter’s moon Europa in high def. Musk is focusing on Starlink being his bread and butter and Occupy Mars or building solar-powered ai database centers in space are just pipe dreams at this point. Compare Starlink selling to the mremestonk elon cult to Playboy, Inc. selling hoodies and caps to third world browns making millions a year. How low can SPCX go? Oof
How could there be a SpaceX when space is not real. I’m still waiting for a good answer to this.
>>539287359Facebook did the same thing. Most IPOs do. It's literally textbook. Goes back up after this and to new highs.
>>539293444Elon and the banks he owed $40B to got NASDAQ to change the listing requirements from 6 months to 2 weeks. The float % (shares available for trade) requirement was also removed so SpaceX could list with something like 5% float (used to require 15%).Oh and they added an arbitrary multiplier (3x) to how much of SpaceX gets purchased relative to its market cap compared to the other companies in the NASDAQ100, so everyone is buying more to keep the price propped up (poorly).It has already hit 401ks and retirement accounts as they auto purchase index funds that track the NASDAQ, providing Elon and the banks that lent him money their exit liquidity.
>>539287359Im gonna buy soon
>>539296511Chase the chasm. I like it.
>>539293444Rules got changed for this piece of shit.If you hold any tech fund or index youre probably exposed to this stinky fuck.
>>539288964Stocktrader here, 15 years experience. If you think revenue is related to how a stock moves, you are sorely in darkness.None of the revenue goes into the pockets of investors unless they have dividents.
Elon Musk is the biggest scammer in human history and he was a trillionaire for all of 10 seconds. What a fucking limp dick loser. It's goint down to $10-$20 max since that's what the Starlink and rocket portion is worth.
>>539297249I think you’re high lol. Elon is a wall street exit liquidity hedgecuck. His only purpose in life is to scam retard retailers. He did it with DOGE, numerous times with TSLA and now with SPCX. Ever wonder why one of the supposed richest men in the world bent the knee and made SPCX / Twitter X public and is practically begging retailers to but his hot, overpriced Space X gear LMAO or a premium subscription to SuperGrok or an X blue checkmark account? Wake up, brah lol
genius move
When it came to hiring Elon would come in wearing a top hat and holding an ivory cane, standing in front of a dozen naked Indian H1-Bs all standing in a line, then he would fondle each of their testicles using three fingers, look at the three fingers closely, quickly bring his hand to his nose, turn his back to the Indians, inhale deeply with his eyes closed, smack his lips a bit, then give out a satisfied, but contemplative “HMMMMMMM”.After a few seconds he would turn around quickly to face them using only the back soles of his feet, rub his chin and say “Mmmmmhmmmm yes, very nice very nice”, clap his hands exactly two times, then he would bow, suddenly bellow out “WELCOME” mid-bow, then rise suddenly, spread his arms while at the same time tossing his cane aside on to the side window of a Cybertruck, ignoring the spiderweb-like crack that it leaves on the window, and give a welcome gesture like a circus ringmaster welcoming in spectators. Then, as his arms are spread wide, he would gesture toward some cubicles with sleeping bags on the floor next to them and say in a faked and exaggerated voice “TO SPACEX!” during which his voice cracks slightly when he says the “X” part, but he’d quickly recover by trying an improvised echo effect by saying “X” over and over, getting quieter every time.Finally he would wink to his captive audience, jump and turn 180 degrees midair, stumble when he lands, which he tries to cover up by doing some robot dance moves, and stiffly pimp walk away from the bewildered and awe-struck Indians while singing an off-tune version of Willy Wonka’s Pure Imagination song to himself, occasionally mumbling over the lyrics that he doesn’t remember before transitioning to Taylor Swift’s Haters Gonna Hate since he knows it much better.
>>539288964Starling is the only money maker... Musk is really hedging his bets that his AI platform and data centers will fill the void. But he's always being fake and gay and said that he will put data centers into space... Meanwhile for starlink to be profitable some people have already done the calculations that like everyone in the western world has to sub to it lol...
>>539288518You would be shocked to discover how much water is hiding inside the Earth.
>>539298007>Elon Musk is the biggest scammer in human history he also loves jeets lmfaohe is like jeet megazord
>>539297690> If you think revenue is related to how a stock moveswhat a retarded statement. Some stock live on hopes and dreams but profitability is the reality they all crash to. Even if musk has the magic meme stock touch that can last decades, he will be gone one day in reality will set in.
>>539298264Elon was going the nuclear reactor route years ago but while he was jerking himself off with space X, sam altman already beat him to it with OKLO and his small modular reactors, so Elon is in cope-mode shitting on SMRs and blah blah’ing about “our Sun is the ultimate, free source of energy” when cleaner, cheaper, more sustainable, reusable nuclear energy is obviously the future
>>539288964And when those riches do evaluate, another company will do it better and cheaper
>>539287359It's a hilarious model where 98 percent of their funding comes from public sources. What do you think is going to happen when Trump is out of office? You think that company is going to be worth 100 a share? The tech is promising, but the Chinese have already cloned it. So I ask again, is it really worth it at 100 a share?
>>539287752Almost every time something goes IPO it drops like this because a lot of retards sell the moment they can to get rich fast. This will eventually be a good stock to get into but not yet
>>539298432I made 400k on AMD as a neet. Its a meme stock, similiar to GME. Volatile market is where you make money if you got the spirit to enter. You can make 10k in a day on a stock that is tanking and then recovering, or if you get your 10x leverage short at the right timingI made so much money that my bank, handelsbanken contacted me on their service (which i hated as a paranoid neet) and they paid me 40k kroner to do presentations for their workers, and another 40k to pitch stock, analyst and chart pattern. I went to stockholm and I got paid to overlook their traders and investment. I dont know if satan/jesus was looming over me, but I got an insight to how the money makers and elite work. Met a guy who didnt trade on chart patterns, he traded on volume. He said he could "Feel" where the stock is going based on volume chart. Crazy stuff.
>>539287752Anyone with common sense knows Elon's businesses are all hype projects with no real merit or sustainability.
>>539299415
>>539299428why is every Canadian post on this site retarded?
>>539299415To put it in perspective. The daily chart of AMD shows alot of 1 minute bull candles. One big bull candle is MILLIONS of dollars. People study the market for a long time, but they never grasp it. In a single large bull candle a stock like AMD can reach a BILLION DOLLAR.
>>539299565I make 30k swedish kroner usually on a slow day
>elons useless companies keep pumping>elons useful company keeps dumping Clown economy.
>>539299415No one cares if you made money on some meme stock, people win billions in the lottery, they can suddenly pick future numbers better then anyone else. it means they got lucky once.
>>539300006I have made money off AMD for 10 years now, since it was at 50$
>>539300065if you follow AMD you would know what a crash to reality is on meme stocks
>>539299415So how do you actually pick the correct timing? Is it just TA or what?
>>539287752SpaceX ipo annihilated the fucking market, all my stocks are down.
>>539300263I was in at 195$ and the move upwards was predictable. Sold of pieces at 300$ 380$ 440$Im happy
>>539300308How to trade a tanking stock:Wait until the stock bleeds red, tanking hardcore, then wait abit longer, let it bleed it some more, then wait a bit, let it bleed more, then buy it. People will call it "knife catch" but its not.When fear hits the market, rational thoughts dont exist, everyone imagine the stock is somehow going bankrupt. You wait for a period of time when tank and stock goes to shit, and then you buy it heavily. Buy into fear (after the fear has been around for a decent time).This is how I got AMD below 70$ a few years ago, everyone thought it was going bankrupt, while I comfterbly said "This is firesale, get your shares"
>>539287359Lower. China is poised to big dick them in a few years while this nigga continues with his quixotic and fundamentally flawed Starship project. Much like EVs.
>>539287359I think everyone that got stock options working for spacex are just cashing out , becuase of how elon handles employees
>>539287752>peopleYou spelt retards wrong
>>539300665Elon literally has to pay for and produce new starlink satellites constantly that turn into vapor in the upper atmosphere. Altman just has to build smr grids beside ai database centers that reuse energy on repeat. Elon is an absolute flake
>>539300566Do you bother with any of the narrative or arguments at all or is it just about counter-trading the strongest negative sentiments and considering everything else noise? Also, do you wait for the volume to drop off after it panic-tanks or anything like that? I mean, how do you know it's not just gonna tank like 4 more times?
>>539302561I literally never read news. Once you stared at charts for 5000 hours and papertrading it becomes 2nd nature. I also have the benefit of being slightly autistic, my emotional response is weak, and 80% of trading is mass psychology. To be able to untether yourself from "oh shit i just bought 100k worth of shares, jeez im freaking out oh god oh god" to viewing it as chips or credit at a poker table, means you have won majority of the battle.Ability to ruthlessly keep your stoploss, cut a stock at 1-2% downside will save you as well.>>539302561>Also, do you wait for the volume to drop off after it panic-tanks or anything like that? I mean, how do you know it's not just gonna tank like 4 more times?I genuinly cannot explain it, but I have an uncanny ability to guess bottoms. The method of waiting for a bull candle to appear after massive tank, and even worse, wait until stock settles and declare a new support is OLD METHOD. With AI algos, you simply have to be first and early.
>>539287359I hope that's shit hits negative.Elon rat must be skinned alive.Hypocrite Jewish golem
>>539303275>is OLD METHODThat makes a lot of sense. It seems to me that if it's relatively well known, it's just not going to work very well. >I have an uncanny ability to guess bottomsSo it's mostly intuitive? Were you able to explain it the bank workers?Where's a good place to try out paper trading?
>>539304089Chartgame is okey as a beginner, but also TC2000.If you want to daytrade with real money, please don't, you will be destroyed. When you invest, aim for 1 year to 3 to 5 to 7 to 10 years time scale. Even a bagholder makes money if they bought at the wrong time with AMD
>>539288552Why didn't you short if you were this certain? You could've been a millionaire.
>>539304467Yeah, I'm well aware of how daytrading destroys people. I'm just kind of interested in seeing if I can actually pick bottoms on paper. Thanks for your insights anon.
I think you can stick a fork in SpaceX, they're literally pumping money into it, the Pentagram is offering unlimited contracts for Elon for shit that doesn't even exist and it's still collapsing.
>>539305319Gov contracts are generally considered some of the worst for a business. Palintir is a fluke as they're being valued as a software company when in reality they're just a shitty consulting company with nothing but gov contracts.
>>539304745I pulled around 25k when I narrowly bought the bottom on this chart. You need nerves of steel. Once you work out the psychological kinks, the anxienty of entering, the anxienty of selling 5 minutes after it moves up... You will be able to make profit. Took me a year to accept that a stock on a bullrun can move indefinitely. As a beginner my biggest problem was holding losers, disrespecting the stop loss, and then when stock is in profit zone i would sell it quickly. As they say, sell losers quickly, and let the winners run. Never underestimate bullish movement. I cannot guess tops.
>>539287359ELON IS JEWISH
ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE INDIAN OCEANwhere his starships live.
>>539287752>peopleBrowns and shaboos goypigs.
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>>539305478Interesting that you can't pick tops but can pick bottoms. You'd think the psychology would be roughly the same, just inverted. The euphoria at the top seems to inverse-mirror the despair at the bottom. Not that I really know how to actually pick either. >chart Can't say I'd be able to pick anything useful from that chart itself. Maybe if I saw people panicking heavily.
>>539287359Yeah if someone could just tell me exactly when it will bottom out that would be great
>>539288964>The P/E ratio was something ridiculous like 1000. SpaceX recorded a ~5 billion net loss for 2025. You can't use P/E on a negative number.
>>539287359https://youtu.be/YYbac7w8Vtk?si=krfseTIVtGXZqL1D
It will bounce back up again after Artemis 3.
>>539306170>Can't say I'd be able to pick anything useful from that chart itself. Maybe if I saw people panicking heavily.My bread and butter has been ultra violent and volatile stocks. And I want to say, that all stocks have a "personality" as weird as it sounds. You would think AMD would cool its horses after enough investment and funding, but it didnt, it still goes up down -4% +4% daily. The volatility is hard to learn but profitible once you do.
>>539307129I have some limited experience in crypto, and I definitely did notice that each "coin" seemed to have its own personality chart wise. Though with crypto, the knife can very will fall right down to basically zero. Guess that's not going to happen with big, well established companies.
>>539307818>I have some limited experience in crypto, and I definitely did notice that each "coin" seemed to have its own personality chart wise.Whoah, take a look at Gordon Gecko over here
>>539306403Why do you think it'll "bottom"?Its not a commodity, it can just keep going down until it goes out of business. There is no guarantee that it will eventually recover and succeed. It could recover, but it could also not.
>>539287752Don't worry its just boomer's pension funds.
>>539287359Anybody who didnt long when it first dropped, and then immediately short afterwards is a retard who deserves to lose their money.
>>539288964>grossly overvaluedSo was TSLA and I made +3400% on it.
>>539308466>checked>who needs a healthy economic system, VEGAS BABY!!!!!
>>539308141Oi, let me see yer shit-talking loicence there mate!
>>539287359Don't know, don't care. Got 100 on IPO at 135, solded at 185 now I'm slurping this delicious dip. Stay poor pussy fag.
>>539293471Boomers found out China can make rockets but they still don't know China can make cars. Tesla is already falling behind in world wide sales.
Elonius Muskimus
>>539288276>how many people have had their retirements ruined so far because of this?No one. If you own an index fund that bought into this at most maybe 1% of your entire retirement portfolio is SpaceX. Now, if you invested directly, you're a retard, but you knowingly did it so it was your choice.
>>539287359To it’s fair market value
>>539296730>Paying an inspector and replacing parts as needed is more expensive than building a new rocket from scratch every time.Yes. Space travel destroys nearly the entire rocket.
>>539287359Subsidies dry up?
Good thing they rewrote the rules to force private retirement funds to buy into the failing ipo. All the rules were in Place to protect people but mElon pulled some strings for his investors to create liquidity. How much did the tRump senpai make on the robbery? Oh well, you'll do nothing anyways
>>539287359b-buy the dip!
>>539295919Almost like the white guys who pioneered spaceflight decades ago knew a thing or two about designing this shit.
>>539310117he cashed outnot his problem any more.
>>539295919Do you have any actual numbers to back this? Basic economics I can find is they went from $10k/kg to $2.5k/kg with reusable.
>>539310260Fuck off and die pajeet. That's now how it works.
>>539310630Everyone with an S&P index fund is legally required to do exactly that in a few more days.NO REFUNDS.
>>539291548Your a faggot.
>>539310954S&P rejected Spacex's request you retard. They're not eligible till 2027. NASDAQ is what you're thinking of.
>>539287359When can the option holders sell?
>>539287359420.69
hold were going to the moon!
