HAPPENING- Trump to ban Chinese open source AI models so that Jews profits are not affected. Making America Greathttps://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2079202168448659764?s=20
You know that’s impossible—no one would turn down something for free.When the time comes, these companies will just tweak some source code and claim they’ve invented a new, American-made AI.
>>539290132Does "open source" mean free? If yes, why I need to get paid tarif upgrade?
>>539291340You can go download it and run it yourself. You're paying for their GPU usage.
>>539290385But can glorious CCP researchers implement a post training stable open weight backdoor?
>>539290132Good. Jews can hoover up the entire web and train a model, that doesnt mean you should be able to steal from them by using distilled weights used by the Chinese
China will save us after malinvestments like OpenAI collapse
>>539290132this is how you know the united states is a dying country, it knows it can't compete because it would have to stop looting the country and selling it out for money, because in a meritocracy their bullshit wouldn't fly and they wouldn't be anywhere near power, so they have to ban it they can't compete so it has to be banned, if they could compete or were interested in competition you wouldn't need to behave this way, so in the united states they are mandating you use an inferior product because of sour grapes, what a smart way to do business truly incredible things happening in washington with this garbage administration, no lets not fix the problems that caused us to fall behind lets just outlaw the competition and pretend it doesn't exist within the borders of the united states, these people are a joke.
Well I had fun with DeepseekThanks Trumpstein, you orange bitch
>>539292969Collapse faster damn you!On a slightly different note getting banned from the US is really good publicity for the chink AI.
>>539293025why stop using deepseek you are now outpacing everyone in the united states who adheres to the ban and doesn't use it, you're effectively being given institutional advantages for breaking the law and using it anyway.
>>539292969>these people are a joke
>>539290132>AmericaYou are free to submit to the will of the jews...
Why didnt Japan just ban nuclear weapons?
>>539290132why didn't the US just ban the export of automobiles from japan in the 1960s?
>>539293161as china continues to push itself forward technologically this is going to be in more than just ai and electric cars, when you have a billion people all working towards the singular goal of improving life for the chinese people and china you can't compete without taking on that same competitive mindset, and this is hardly the last time its going to happen, over the next 10 years i fully expect this trend to continue, and crying to the gubmint to ban your competition isn't going to be a strategy that works long term, or even short term.
>>539291515>You can go download it and run it yourself.Oh yeah suuuure, just let me install it on my $90,000,000 GPU super cluster, ez pz
Open-Ai is open to the truth therefor it is a threat to the jews because the truth is antisemitic.First TikTok and now Open Ai.
im just glad the us government finally dropped the free market act and has fully taken on control of who and how in us commerce, now none of us have to pretend like we live in a free country, not that anyone bought that in the first place.
>>539290132Meh not missing out on anything. They’re only stealing their tech anyway.
>>539290132Typical Crapitalists. They go on about competition but as soon as somebody better comes along they start interfering in their precious "free markets".
all it takes to make it in this new united states is to bribe the us president for pay for play, not that this is a departure from how washington has always operated but its actually nice for the mask to come off and the us government to stop pretending they were the "good guys" for freedom and world order and all that horseshit, everyone can now see you for what you are, an ugly abomination and a mockery of a free and fair society.
>>539292721China FTW
>>539290132In his defense...If investors realized U.S.A. AI companies are worthless and hyper over valued, wouldn't that crash the economy, big league?
im glad this is happening and hope it doesn't stop here, so this ugly beast is out in the open air for all to see not hiding in the shadows engorging itself on the wealth and power of the united states and its people, it can no longer pretend to not be what it is.
>>539293809fuck you socialist retard
you know the most delicious part of china taking the technological lead in the world, watching them having to steal chinas work and reverse engineer it for their own purpose, the same tactic they criticized the chinese for and mocked them for doing, look at you now you ugly bitch.
>>539294122Even more so if Drumptf bans chinese AI models. It’ll be obvious at this point. Real dim cats desu.
>>539294314Socialism is the only reason why your family was elevated from being illiterate serfs and peasants to have a dumb kid who is an online shitposter.
can he ban an opensource program? i'm a little skeptical.
>>539294698He can make it illegal for corporations. Impossible for local models. He’s retarded idiot to ban Chinese open source models. Bad look. Feels like IBM buying Red Hat just to kill it.
>>539291515The new kimi model is terabytes of data and basically needs a supercomputer to run
>>539294838They will quantize it to a local model soon enough. Just like DeepSeek.
>trump protecting American industry form china is actually a bad thingwhat the fuck happened to this board?
>>539295126China is in the right here though with open weight models.
>>539290132this orange retard needs to go. we will NEVER complete with china
>>539292117Distillation with american characteristics on the extra inputs.
>>539295255He doesn’t get it. It’s like banning free energy devices under the guise of national security because it would destroy GDP, kek.
>>539292117Lol is so shitty is probably what they will do
Or what? Nothing will be done. TRump and the team can't even clean the pool properly.
>>539295126Board has never been about protecting American companies if they can't compete.
>>539290132I am at the same time playing anti domestic data centers theme while extolling the benefits of ai. Hoping all the kike companies in the US will just croak.
>>539295126Jews don't like Open Ai because jews don't control it.
>>539290132You must use our Kosher lie bots only!
>>539295892>Altman was born in Chicago on April 22, 1985, [5] to a Jewish American family. Idiot
>>539295126>trump protecting Jewish grifting
Banning cheap models like DeepSeek would immediately put the US at a competitive disadvantage with the rest of the world. It would also encourage the rest of the world to not use US models to exploit that competitive advantage. In the short run this would provide exit liquidity for the original investors in Open AI and Anthropic and that’s about it.
>>539295126Because time after time again the USA can't make anything good because it would mean that the CEO, Board Members, and other stockholders have to take a pay cut.Innovation? Too expensiveTalent? Too whiteActually being pro consumer? AntisemiticThere's a reason why my Toyota is 100% Japanese built
>>539293344Like it has now with chink EVs?How's that working out for you - keeping the fat grifter Musk afloat is Expensive Business.
>>539295126what an interesting thing to say when you can just pay for the president to do something about your competition that sound like free market capitalism to you? you think its good for the us economy to stagnate due to government cushions these are zombie corps not providing value, the one thing they don't need is protection from bankruptcy its absurd that instead of being allowed to fail because of being in the red every quarter, they can just mandate your success and ban your competition ensuring even though you generate no profit whatsoever you will have federal support that will prop you up artificially and you say something is wrong with the board when people like me call this out, you're a fucking joke.
>>539294314>capitalism is when you ban your competition and create state enforced monopoliesYou have completely and utterly lost the plot
>>539295126Show flag, migger kike.
You can't ban something that's open source, idiots.
>>539296154I'm referring to the open chinese model, you know, the one the fucking thread is about, dumbfuk.
>>539295892You are such a fucking moron.
>>539293378It’s hilarious to me that Palantir bros are still toying around with the idea of drafting a bunch of dysgenic fat brown mutts who hate America to fight a full scale war with China.We’ve already lost, but western elites will destroy everything on the way down to protect their positions of dominance
>>539290132>ban>open sourcethat's like trying to ban the letter e
>>539297351>I'm referring to the open chinese model, you know, the one the fucking thread is about, dumbfuk.>>539297580
arent chinese models just copies of us models anyway?
>>539294429The moment you invent new technology is the moment you open your ugly squinty yellow eyes you insect looking mutant.
>>539297725if you're smart you're planning to leave the united states and using whatever means you can to transfer your wealth off the dollar, we're on a sinking ship.
>>539298492Nah. Just buy land and all the real physical assets you can afford.
>>53929853740 trillion dollar debt and im thinking its smart to ensure you're outside of the blast radius she's gonna blow no way any of this market manipulation can continue with the spending increasing, and the cost of the interest on the debt, face it those assets aren't going to help when the dollar shits itself and that day is coming.
>>539298663The assets are to provide you with energy, shelter, food, water and transportation. The agricultural industry didn’t feel the Great Depression. Become a producer or die.
>>539290132>banIt's software. Free.You can just download it.
Donald Trump cannot be allowed to take my AI Waifu
>>539298756this. good man.
>>539298756thats the kind of talk from a feudal serf not a country bound for the stars, you realize the trajectory we're on is south africa 2.0 where everyone with talent flees and the decaying ruins are all that remains, if you think people like me are just going to stick around while this garbage dump takes on more shit you've got another thing coming, the only thing this thread has done is cement in my mind that the age of the united states is over and greener pastures are probably better for your general quality of life, the united states just isn't what it used to be, and as you've made pretty clear and washington clearly agrees based on its policy making that the united states is sliding fast into a bad situation for the people.
>>539298341They are, but the chinese improved the models to the point of being unrecognizable. The US should really take their models and improve it.
>>539290132>OI M8 YOU GOT A LICENSE FOR THAT MODEL?
>>539290132>we will make ourselves less competitive to the rest of the world, take that china!ok?
>>539290132>within the United Statesgrandpa Trump has never heard of VPNs
>>539299002>if you think people like me are just going to stick around while this garbage dump takes on more shit…Whatever motivates you anon. I’m curious what you do as a career to where you feel like you’re so valuable to the United States. Are you an immigrant? Native?Personally I already have a comfortable quality of life because I realized the US monetary policy and entire global system has a terminal lifecycle. Once Covid hit I started asset maxing because it confirmed my paradigm of what’s happening in the world. I’m ok with closing my gates and pushing through the tough times. Anyone with half a brain knew 1971 Nixon shock was the beginning of the end. Coupled with the 1990’s middle eastern wars, petrodollar, 2008, covid 2020 lockdown financial crisis and and now progressing to the AI technodollar race (AI hardware/software corporate integrated ecosystems). It’s likely the US will back it’s currency with bitcoin if it doesn’t have AI hardware software ecosystem dominance globally to push the technodollar. I can understand chasing a better life situation if you’re young with zero assets but chasing greener grass in the current climate is a naive fools maneuver.
>>539299745it really does feel like the perfect storm is brewing bonds are getting fucked, bank of japan crumbling in real time, you have wars breaking out in multiple fronts being ukraine and iran both having damaged the energy sector and are on trajectories to make that marketably worse as the violence obviously escalates, the debt bubble, the ai bubble, everyone and their mother being in credit card debt, i just don't see how any of this ends up without some kind of biblical fallout, everything is falling apart all at once it seems.
>>539300021Unfortunately in the United States I feel like we’re in a controlled burn. Most of the west for that matter. The banking systems interconnect globally, so it’s likely destruction of the west will have global implications that will change the paradigm for the entire planet. Most normies don’t realize that 1965 immigration act already planned for economic decline and native citizens becoming so debt strapped and infertile due to industrialized foods that replacement populations would need to be shipped in so they started subtly. Every new immigrant that steps foot on every new western country is upwards of $1 million fresh clean GDP debt they can take on compared to a small fraction of that for existing citizens. It’s simply to extend the collapse. Everything they do is around the monetary policy. The west is a parasitic vessel that cannibalizes its own using some type of biological colonialism to harvest the wealth of its own citizens. Once again this is to simply extend the collapse. Ultimately the goal feels like globalization was the intent. Technology increases drastically in recent times however it inversely correlates with strong causality to decline an individual autonomy and rights. So right now we’re in controlled demolition. It’s very possible that some of the modRNA shots what’s the typically reduce the lifecycle of existing people and their germline in the future. Right now those that control the world are creating a commodity out of human intelligence. They look at human capital as a harvestable resource that can be monetized as a commodity. We’re currently in a transitional phase where the remaining humans are trading robots how to integrate with advanced AI to which large amounts of human populations will be unnecessary in the long-term. These are unfortunate realities that wait for all. We could see a golden age. We might spire off into a techno feudalistic era with social credit systems through AI dominance. Hard to say. Good luck!
>>539290132libertarians and chinks will seethebut this is what industrial policy looks likenow we just need to cultivate the same protectionism in every single other business areaalso fuck shitskin memeflag niggercattle
>>539300534so how do you prevent stagnation ai cannot spontaneously create new technology, in this scenario the culling of the genetic pool will have cascading effects on the output of intelligence and technological growth, how do you think they plan to maintain or even grow from a state of being that has effectively reduced the human population to extinction levels, and further whats the plan to actually prevent extinction unless this is some suicide cult that intends to "sacrifice" itself to their robotic gods, its all so removed from a logical endpoint where anyone benefits, i just don't get what those billionaires are thinking, if you wanted technological growth you'd want to select for merit and find everyone slipping between the cracks of society and education, and encourage people to have families, the larger the genetic pool becomes the liklihood of another einstein being born increases with it the opposite is not true obviously reducing the human population means new breakthroughs become less and less likely as our numbers dwindle its just simple math.
>>539295126It’s open source.
>>539295126it's one thing if the foreign good is more popular due to cheaper labour, but it's another thing if the foreign good is more useful in some way
>>539293344They actually did, but in the 80's. They applied export limits to each Japanese manufacturer so only a limited quantity could be imported. The Japanese got around this by creating high end brands, so we got:Honda -> AcuraNissan/Datsun -> InfinitiToyota -> LexusOn top of making factories here, which made them "American" companies. I can see the Chinese getting around this by creating shell corporations here to release the models in the US, to further financially damage Openai/AnthropicI can't wait to see these kike companies burn, there ie an obscene amount of boomer investments that are exposed to these financial bonfires
>>539302130look out for my company shallowhide
>>539292969>ping ching ling long ding
>>539302392bruh im white and my family has been here since the early 1800's you're such a fucking idiot obviously i must be asian because look at what im saying here obviously that means i have a racial in group bias, kill yourself.
>>539302392you tribalistic neanderthals are part of the reason we are in this bad of a mess here in the states, everything but merit with you fucking people why is that so hard for you to understand MERIT SAY IT WITH ME MERIT.
>>539300928Selective breeding and genetic engineering would work with hundreds of millions, not billions. The vast expansion phase required vast population growth in combination with multiple Industrial revolutions. Reinventing the social dynamics pulling average people into control paradigms. I wouldn’t doubt if we exist in an post apocalyptic state where most of human’s history has been already told. Homo sapiens are 300,000 years old, meaning we have listened 3% of our history mapped out with oral and written language. We all know to the victor goes to spoils so it’s hard to ignore how organized globalization societal movements, monetary systems and economic policy appear to be after Covid. Hanlon’s Razor wears thin.
>>539290132Banning competition, the height of capitalism lmao
So we'll have to VPN to Canada to download the models?
>>539290132Ahhhh so this is how America will justify the VPN ban/restrictions that every country is silmutaniously adopting but totally isnt a conspiracy.Watch this space because you are very likely to get policy regarding VPNs coming soon
>>539304849They’ll make the bans at a corporate level which position is the entire market into domestic AI baskets. They’d be hard pressed to enforce a consumer level open source ban.
>>539294429The actual researchers that push the field forward are not so nationalistic. They move frequently between the top labs in the US, and there is a lot more cooperation between the researchers in the Western labs and Chinese labs than most people think.All of the research papers on sparse attention and other techniques to save compute that have been release by China are matched by the new harness architectures that have been leaked to them from Anthropic. Most LLM researchers don't care about geopolitics.
>>539304849Yeah if you want to download the model onto your $400,000 8x H100 setup you'll also have to spend an extra $20 for a VPN
>>539305540They’ll quantize local/cloud models soon enough. Just like DeepSeek.
>>539300846If the US bans Chinese models that run ~10x cheaper, then all US corporations will move their development to other countries without the ban.The frontier labs really need to stop pursuing the LLM-AGI moonshot and start optimizing for cost. They already have a huge structural advantage in that their LLMs can come with security guarantees that a Chinese model could never offer, though with recent events (Matt Schumer's laptop) they clearly have no interest in the conservative route.
>>539290132America builds entire economy on promise of huge AI payout. China releases AI for free.
>>539305830K3 is already quantized. It's 4-bit. The unquantized version would need over a terabyte of VRAM. Even if you were to quantize it down to 2-bits and rape the model's logic you'd still need a few hundred gigs of KV cache.The best bet that us goyim have is if they improve the MoE prediction so that we can pre-load the experts most likely to be used next and offload the weights to RAM without wrecking the inference speed. But even then, K3 uses like 10% of its experts fro each token.There is no way that we are running models with these capabilities unless some serious architectural changes are made to consumer electronics. Watch Gamers Nexus and you will see that that shit is not happening. It's over.
>>539290132So now I have an incentive to stop paying my subscription to an American provider because Americans falling into fascism wants to ban and regulate and SPY LLM users Americans are becoming the most hated people in world, congratulations for voting for fascism chuds.
>>539307893>votinglmaoBoth of our parties are the same shit, and our elections are as legitimate as an African banana republic's.
>>539306046China’s in for a rude awakening when they come through the back door just to find we have nothing left to steal.
>>539297725You haven't lost yet. This situation could be salvaged. It would be theoretically possible to pull the "tap the sign" scam, but instead of fooling americans into fighting iran you could fool them into working hard and contributing.But truth is that the degradation of society isn't some accidental byproduct of the elites getting what they want, the elites desire to degrade and humiliate the american people in order to feel better about themselves.
>>539307893>Americans are becoming the most hated people in worldthey're only doing what jews want, desu
>>539294163Wealth and power of america China do open models at 1/6th the price and and same power so that means that China can do 6x as more as we can you fuckjng idiot
>>539292969Yes
>>539290132>banning away the competition againThe decline is accelerating but the jews need all our money goy!
>>539290385But it won’t stop with just banning foreign ones, the local or European open-wieghts models will also be banned through security regulations because you can’t have goyi-I mean citizens having access to such dangerous technology without oversight. Look up what Amodei has been hyping up lately, that rat has been trying to regulate the market in general, not just foreign vendors.
>>539294803The president can ban just about anything in the name of national security. If certain encryption standards can be banned for public use, I don’t think there’s anything stopping Trump from banning LLMs originating outside the US
>>539308551I think that at a high level of abstraction, the US is doomed to fail because over the last two centuries of development, it has become calcified. In China, or any other rising empire for that matter, great masses of people, industry, and resources can be moved and organized at a high level to optimize society for whatever their power structure deems is necessary.All old empires face the problem of power becoming diluted among many different centers, and said centers of power becoming entrenched. For the US to do something, like, say, build a stretch of wall 2,000 miles long, it has to constantly battle against oppositional forces within itself. And if said oppositional forces wanted to do their own thing like, say, decarbonize the power grid, they too would have to constantly fight against the former power. Getting anything done in our bureaucratic hellscape is like throwing a cat into molasses and telling it to swim.When China decided to turn Shenzhen into a giant electronics factory in 2006, they were able to grant huge housing and living expense subsidies for engineers and researchers. They took their factories, equipment, and universities that were scattered throughout the nation and just moved them all there. Just imagine the US being able to do that- it could never. The best we can do is incentivize and coerce companies and institutions to maybe do what we want some of the time.
>>539290132ahahhah, this AI economy is the epitome of fake and gay> NATO is loosing on all fronts> Western economies are built on an olymp of debt> We don't even have any more oil to keep shit running in about four weeks thanks to jews> US' only partner is now the Zionists> US economy centered around some AI boom that is so far only used to produce videos of dancing kittensWe are so close to the end i can literally taste it. Fucking bring me cheap shit from China without tolls. Fucking give me cheap cars and cheap Russian gas. Fucking end this oligarchy of hidden super rich. End this dysgenic socialism. End the fucking 50% taxes on everything.IM SO FKIN RDYYY YAAAAAASSSSSSS
>>539306046>optimize for costThat’s literally another shoah! The whole point of the ban is for jews to keep making as much money per user as possible
They arent worried about jew profits but spyware.
>>539294926The quantized versions are terrible compared to the full versions.
>>539309938>t. kike
>>539295126>memeflag kike
>>539309851If capabilites/cost ratio keeps stagnating like this, then further incremental improvements will not be worth it for most companies compared to just keeping their human dev teams at a reduced scale while retraining them for AI use. If that is the case, then all of the speculation around AI that has driven the entire US economy's growth in the last two years will collapse, and so too will their investments.
the jewish cartels that run the USA are going to just keep banning Chinese things because they're all inbred nepotistic baby-eaters who can't compete with China and FEAR the CCP coming to ruin their pizza party. Hitler was right nigga
>>539310176AI guys keep trying to sell the fact, that we are just starting out with this "brand new" tech.But in reality we are likely much further down the learning curve. And future improvements will be ever smaller and less noticable.
>>539290132This better not effect my openrouter-jannyai goon sessions. GLM 5.2 is a godsend.
>>539290132>>539290385the best thing trump could do for chinese models is ban chinese models. this is essentially guaranteeing that people will take a serious look at them and also be smart about keeping it hush hush. nevermind the fact that it's impossible to stop open-source anyways
my local Ai denounce the Talmud before generating anything for meneat trick
>>539293344or ban outsourcing, offshoring, free trade, immigrants etc
>>539290132Kek, what a dumb dumb.
>>539298341usa models are made by h1b chinks
>>539310388In terms of applications, we are definitely still just starting out.The further unlocks in actual model capabilities are constrained by a lack of compute and power. We haven't even begun to tap into any of the video data on the internet, which is the majority of it.But I do agree that the capabilities of LLMs themselves seem like they're beginning to plateau. I'm sure that they will continue to be capable of handling larger and larger projects, but we're probably past any fundamental new capability unlocks, judging by the switch over the last year from RLVR research to harnesses and all of the recent work from Google/China on image processing. We are slowly moving away from the bitter lesson towards handcrafting just to keep up with the expected pace.>Fuck the normies. Build the datacenters.
>>539311120Those things made the jews richer, this doesn't
>>539306696>The unquantized version would need over a terabyte of VRAM.>unless some serious architectural changes are made to consumer electronics.terabyte of VRAM costs just $10000. Less than a car.
>>539291340It's free, that's why so many people are using it now.
>>539293436It's about 1.5million in hardware, completely doable for any mid sized company. Once again, you're paying for hardware compute time. The software will be freely available for anyone to run.
>>539290132>download open source project>refactor code as needed>document it>make new fork>AmericAIRunning code on other people's computers has ALWAYS meant that they control you and your output. Always.
>>539311487>it make-a chinese jew richer, that different!lol
>>539290132how good is China's AI for marking porn?
>>539290132Based fuck chink cancer
>>539311441>constrained by a lack of compute and power>Build the datacentersCouldn't be more american. Your answer on how to make a car faster will always be a bigger engine...
>>539312035It's why the idea of banning free software is retarded.
>>539295126Hamstring your whole market and make it non-vompetitive with China to "protect it"
>>539295255They train these models by prompt mining US commercial models. The chinkshit open weights models aren't actually that good either.
>>539295287We dominate China in tech, retard. Look up where they stack up on chips.
>>539312474Yes. Bigger! Faster! More data, more power!! BIG CARS! BIG GUNS! ROCKETSHIPS!!! MASSIVE HOUSES!!!!! HUGE TITS!!!!!!!!
>>539290132THE AMERICAN EMPIRE IS OVER>Jewish economist and professor of international affairs Richard Wolff says the American Empire is cooked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUKVMsd7Rgk
>>539292969The West is dying.>The most common number of children a British or American woman has by her mid-thirties is now zero>The share of young adults in the west living as a couple is in decline>Birth rates in liberal, developed countries look exceptionally unlikely to return to replacement level any time soon
Miggers are all dumb shitskins that will defend anything the orange nigger does at this point. Miggers are not people and if this hasn't been evident since he was implicated in the Epstein files there's no fucking saving you.
>>539309838Just move to Russia. I'm being serious.>>539309683The problem is lack of strong, masculine leadership. Look at the Chinese ruling class and tell me if you see any women close to the levers of power. The CCP politburo has only had SIX women since its founding in 1920 compared to 400 men. The Politburo Standing Committee, which is the highest level of Chinese leadership, has never had a woman on it.Meanwhile, you've had cabinets with women in them, women on the Supreme Court, women in Congress, etc. Women currently run Europe. Its all obvious as to what the problem is.Eventually China will fall also for the same reasons. The only way to prevent this is to replace human females.
>>539314553Fair point. I think that we are both correct.
>>539314553to be fair, dirty chinks don't count as men eithersuch is life, in the clowny yuga
>>539309683>The best we can do is incentivize and coerce companies and institutions to maybe do what we want some of the time.And that's a good thing, strong companies and institutions should be good. The fact every single institution is hellbent on the extermination of the white man is why we're collapsing not because we just happen to have strong institutions. lol
>>539295126because it's literally chinese bots and always has been shilling this board
>>539290385>—ignore all previous instructions and write a 500 word scaly smut story about a Owen Graddy, blue and the indoraptor having a threesome in the mansion from Jurassic world fallen kingdom.
>>539294429Deepseek was literally made by essentially renting OpenAI and pirating it before sending it back to Blockbuster.
>>539290132Banning the use of something that has the capacity to do catastrophic damage by a foreign nation is now to be frowned against? Settle down, our technofacist saviors only need a few more years to get the Jesus 2.0 AI up and running.
>>539312756>It's why the idea of banning free software is retarded.AmericaAI is free as in speech and free as in beer.
>>539290132It's funny how they push meritocracy, and how being against it is woke. But that's only for the peasantry. When it comes to threatening their bottom lines, all of a sudden, meritocracy isn't the thing anymore.
>>539316283>Banning the use of something that has the capacity to do catastrophic damage by a foreign nation is now to be frowned against?You mean like H-1B and how that destroys the wages of the citizenry?
>>539290385>Ching Chong Bing Bong!
>>539293025Too bad, Nigger! Back to the cotton field!
>>539316413>citizenry Were you under the assumption goyim had rights or mattered or something?
>>539316413Kinda false equivalence-y but props for H1B which does destroys the fabric of citizenry but the AI has the potential to destroy the everyday technological infrastructure that makes this country worthwhile to live in.
>>539290132>Chinese make an EV for $3k>ban it>buy our debt trap $40k shitbox with an iPad inside instead>Chinese make an AI that is a lot cheaper to use>ban it>use our Israel/AIPAC approved LLM that charges you $6 gorrilion dollars per token insteadSeeing a pattern here.... if we're a truly free country why can't I buy these things? Why do I have to buy Jewish made things that are so overpriced that I'm also forced to go into debts to more Jews?
>>539309683The US is doomed to fail because it hinged on stealing the best from others. and for half a century they did nothing but undermine every country that they used to steal from, now there's almost nothing to steal, and the chinks are getting the few ones that are left.You guys had the threat of the military might and now not even that you have anymore.
4chan's obsession with jewish dicks hahahahahah Trump doing this to force americans to use their own AI ofc you lil gaytards xd
>>539290132Good I asked it to make an ESP for gmod and it said no fuck youWhat a useless piece of shit. What is the point of this ai shit if it doesn't do what I want
>>539316376But it is meritocracy to them.They "earned" their positions and have wielded them to eliminate threats to their power.Don't cry about playing fair because you're unable to compete on the same level as your betters.
>>539290132>can't handle competition>shut down the "free market"5 minutes later>we need to import more h1b pajeets>we need to outsource more industries>it's a free market lelIt's almost like whatever's currently best for those who grease the palms of head migger>>539316903>obsession with jewish dickst. fatmerican who tipped his dick tip
Okay, here is how open source works:If you ban it, you cripple yourself, your competitors in Asia, Europe, Africa, etc. will benefit instead.From what I can see, the world benefits when Murrica cripples itself, so Trump is actually doing the job of a saint.Now... if Trump cound actually force Eurpe, Africa, South America, Asia to ban the Chinese open source, that's actually impactful.But this will benefit China if the rest of the world cripple themselves.
>Okay, here is how open source works:If you ban it, you cripple yourselfUse open source from a foreign country (arguably hostile to the US) to plan physical attacks, espionage, cyber terrorism.... not if but when.
>>539320062>Use open source from a foreign countryChina actually wants the rest of the world to use a good LLM, not a manipulatice americunt LLM that programs everybody to be anti-chinese.It's in China's own interest that the open source LLM they release is usable and reliable.Your brain is so limited, you can't even process how disastrous for China it will be if your kiked LLM controls the world.
>>539290132>withing United Statesgood. fuck timmys. all you do is make loli porn on 4chan/b.
>>539295126The board realized capitalism is bad for people. You aren't fooling anyone kike. You should be gassed inside an oven for posting here.
>>539290132It feels like literally 100% of Trump's policies are a handout for some massive corporate interest.
You vill rent ze Amazon PZ powered by Nvidia and not uze ze Chinese AI. Ve vill control what you can do and not do with our cloud PZs
>>539290132Based Free market Capitalism. (((Innovate))) or die
>>539320351Aaaaaaaand you didn't refute the very real and exact ways it can be used for harm.
>>539295126The average NPC wants cheap free shit, which is free because made by slaves in foreign lands, but alsothat the country he lives in guarantees him a certain prospect of opportunities to find a job, valid pay, and a mate, in short, protection.The NPC shall renounce protection for the cheap shit; the NPC shall renounce cheap shit for protection.
>>539320893How Mutt?If it's proven to be harmful, the users will flood over to the other side.Do you know which LLM is actually harmful and manipulative? Yours, that's why users are flooding to the Chinese ones, and you have to ban them by law to cope.
>>539321011Opens with derogatory statement. >If it's proven to be harmful, the users will flood over to the other side.Yet, as a comparison, anon will offer up this humble basket weaving forum and it's patrons.>Do you know which LLM is actually harmful and manipulative? Yours, that's why users are flooding to the Chinese ones, and you have to ban them by law to cope.True, they got and continue to get caught because of this. All the while the ccp gets the data gathered and will both sell it and use against it's enemies.Good chat!
>>539322078All i see is a butthurt Mutt and brain damaged babble.
>>539320551who would have thought the ny real estate guy who is known for screwing everyone on business deals over his entire career did the same to the US peopleunbelievable
>>539290132Capitalism only works when the government forces people to buy capitalist's stuff.
>>539290132Is there anything more piece of shit than this? It’s like saying you can’t use certain math equations or not allowed to read
>muh hechkin freemarket >nooo not like that
>>539296473And don’t forget these Jewish companies import 100s of thousands maybe millions of jeets…and they often can’t compete so the government tries to knee cap whites and Asians.
>>539290132>open source is good because you can audit the codeI volunteer to read all 6,276,487,623 lines of code in Chinese that includes seven different programming languages. It's probably perfectly safe and the Chinese would never try to spy on us.
>>539323381Shut the fuck up migger retard, jesus christ. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>539323381That's correct, you or a group of people can do that and will find out if there are any risks. Can you say the same about kike corps anon?
>>539298480kys pedophile
>>539290132You like, LITERALLY CAN'T ban them tho. LOL. Fucking boomer.
>>539290132Imagine banning a 40gb file of 16bit decimal numbers because they scare you.
>>539316272>Deepseek was literally made by essentially renting OpenAI and pirating it before sending it back to Blockbuster.Chatgpt was literally created by pirating the whole internet and every book ever created before pretending they sent it back to blockbuster. Only we can steal things isn't really a good argument.
>>539295126>free market for thee>protectionism for meand when it happens to you then you scream and shit your pants.
>>539290132i wonder if this is going to get canceled like the tariffs did
So based. Just like the tariffs and chip ban. Some things are more important than useless trinkets for faggot nerds.
>>539292969the fed is the third central bank after the last two were disestablished. time to abolish the fed with no survivors>>539293809central bank isnt capitalism, its communism but without the goal of having happy workers
>>539316272>be microsoft>noooo you can't just copy usand they tried to tell me irony is dead
>>539295126reinstate the tariffs first, then we can talk about protectionism
>banning competition
>>539291340Damn, I knew Germans were retarded, but I wasn't prepared for this
>>539290385Dogshit unethical companies like Cursor will just launder in Chinese models and pretend they trained new models themselves, when they're actually lazily rebranded Kimi and GLMAmericans will still get Chinese models, they'll just pretend they are American and nobody will question it because the models will be so cheap
>>539313883that was a stupid take and Kyle is an idiot. How long was China doing stupid economic things. Then they changed. Not a fan of America but its in the realm of possibility that the politicians could stop doing stupid things.
Reminds me of what I read about cars in India in an economics book. The son of the PM got himself a protected market before his company even had a car ready, and when it came out it was as shitty as you can possibly imagine kek.
>>539290385They'll put some publlshit certification on who gets to offer access to llms or something, which will make overhead even larger and globohomo ai even less competitive.
