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No one had to pay rent or mortgage before civilization. It was the assholes that wanted to own everything that stole all the land and ruined it for everyone.

The greedy evil fuck that invented and forced private property rights is at fault for all of this.
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>>539304574
yep, we live in this hellscape and there is no going back.
it will probably end in total destruction for humanity.
in the mean time, you might as well buy a slice of it for yourself.
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>>539304574
It was Satan.

God created the world and everything within which we have no right to claim as our own.

The earth is not a spinning ball though, Satan lied about that too.
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>>539304574
before civilization we were free to rape your boipussi day in and day out because nobody could stop us.
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>>539304737
I mean, tribes still beat rapists to death. And if they cannot get to the rapist, then they get revenge on their family members.
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>>539304574
I did, in fact, make that. Why?
So you can suffer. I find it entertaining.
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Your jannies are fine with this.
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>>539304574
>Make dirt into pot
>I don't own it
Then who does own it? Be specific.
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>>539306675
>Board is as fake as it's contents
You don't say...
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>>539304574
Pay your rent you broke nigger
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>>539304574
Too bad. Pay your rent, or I'll have the cops come and shoot you.
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Land belongs to those who work it.
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>>539304574
antisemitic thread
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>>539304574
Yes, I made it.
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>>539304574
nice CGI shlomo
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>>539304574
>No one had to pay rent or mortgage before civilization
Muh lord, why art thou so retarded?
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>>539307210
>Land belongs to those who work it.
That's not what history shows. Greed filled right-wing kikes love to call themselves kings and take all the farmers land for themselves.

All right-wing ideologies are about owning land and resources and forcing others to pay or slave themselves for access.
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>>539304574
The strong men create good times meme is very applicable in this case.
Claiming property over something through either force or bartering systems created space for men to care for the weaker links in their family units.
Over enough time, these systems would solidify into powerful chains that would be taken for granted.
This gives access to liars and cheaters to exploit systems for their own personal gain.

You must ask yourself this question when debating this topic; if a system is created to perserve the physically weaker class leads to a morally inferior system down the line, would bashing rocks over eachothers heads for survival be the preferable standard of living?
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>>539304574
Kill ever last nigger loving commie kike

NO EXCEPTIONS
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>>539304574
>build house on land; hunt and farm on nearby land
>you rely on all this to survive

>random guy builds a house on your land; hunts and farms where you do
>you murder him for threatening your means of survival

property rights exist to prevent violent solutions to conflicting interests
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>>539304574
yeah but they didnt have roads or F350 diesels which i use to drive to my job so i can buy high fructose syrup, health insurance used to extend my unnatural life to 80 years of wageslavery, goon to 4k UHD BBC porn, clothes for my 3 mulatto step sons, etc. face it, my life is a trillion times better than this man's life.
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>>539304574
>farming peacefully
>no private property
>get violently murdered and raped by steppeniggers
>steppeniggers now own your land

>fast forward
>steppenigger descendants now sedentary niggers farming the land
>need to protect it from steppeniggers
>create borders, armies
>lord owns everything
>you get the right to parts of the land based on how useful you are to the defense of the nation

Property rights are just a natural consequence of human psychology and behavior. In healthy societies, they incentivize people to make sure they don't get raped and murdered by outsiders
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>>539307817
It's not about money or living standards. Our world is a cage for Goyim taxpayers farmed by Kikes.
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>>539304908
i wasn't talking about innertribe rape you supple bottom
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>>539304574
This thread is incredibly gay and uninformed. Humans have a predisposition to not wanting to speak in public. The reason being that tribal living came with the cost of defiance equalling exile and ultimately death. That is how rigidly control structures are anchored into the human psyche. The next limit is the Dunbar limit. At 150 social relationships humans cap out and cannot maintain more. This is about keeping the tribe small and centralized. Past that and you get the bystander effect and people being overloaded.

You are designed to be self minimizing slaves to authority and not free men. You are designed to operate within the confines of small, localized social groups or your brains turn to mush. No one is ruining it for you because you were born as cattle.
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>>539308519
Come try fag.
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Is reddit so bad that you have to post here?
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>>539309138
You know who got exiled or murdered in tribal communities? That greedy faggots that tried to hoard everything for themselves instead of sharing with the group. Right-wing ownership mindset is unnatural and detrimental to the continued survival of our species.
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>>539309343
Nope, the tribe became the city state with the same operative control structures and then into nation state. Other tribal groups failed and never launched because they had no concept of ownership beyond the local level.

What is unnatural and detrimental is usury and pure profit driven incentives. But that is a self correcting phenomenon and you should be grateful to be alive to witness the probable collapse in your lifetime. The fact that the food supply is poisoned and people are living on borrowed time in an energy crisis is just another opportunity for fitness to play a role in civilization when dysgenics has taken over.

Utopians are dysgenics promoters and deserve the grave, nature is putting them there.
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>>539304574
Paying rent and a mortgage is a small price for not being impaled by Hunns while my wife and children are brutally gang raped and left to scratch a living from the salted earth they left behind.
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>>539310474
Honestly starting to believe whites deserve this exact fate for creating the system of usury we currently have.
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>>539310195
>Right-wingers are dysgenics promoters and deserve the grave, nature is putting them there.
Socialism must reign supreme. All right-wing ideologies deserve the coffin of history.
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>>539311231
Don't count your chickens. You're looking at global famines in the near term that will disproportionately kill off most of the thirdies that only draw breath as an extension of modern Western materialist desires. In case you haven't been paying attention Agenda 2030 and Net Zero 2050 are on time and on target. It has nothing to do with your demoralization circus of left/right paradigms. There is only the uniparty and they answer the the various steering organizations embedded within the UN, the WEF, committee of 300, trilateral commision and every other occult organization going down the line.

Socialism and capitalism are sock puppets for feudalism, feudalism simply went corporate in modernity and they have you chasing your tails like good dogs. The future is a world where the population is brought to 500 million and maintained for the good of its health. Those people will have an incredibly standard of living and responsibility to the rest of humanity. Not before decades of pain and death however.
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No one over 25 could sincerely believe this so either youre baiting or git gud
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>>539311583
Fuck your faggot ass text wall. Socialism or burn it all down. Nothing in between.
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>>539304574
Kill all leftist boy/nigger lovers
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>>539311797
Socialism only exist for the wealthy, look at how you have already been mind raped by phones and commie noises. You can't even read a few sentences. You are an animal ripe for slaughter and nothing else.
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>>539304908
>I mean, tribes still beat rapists to death
If they are from the same tribe. If another tribe conquers yours rape isnt punished.
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>>539304574
I didn't, but then again neither did you.
This is what retards don't understand.
Pretty sure you're baiting but it's the truth.
Retards think "I have a thought. Thought unique, so profound" meanwhile everyone has had that thought and trashed it because it's dumb.
Retards can't see the reflection of their own desires or someone having the opposite desire and reason for it.
This is where their small brains understand good or evil.. good to them is not objective but simply anything they want or need at the moment.
They cannot understand why everyone on the planet does not declare them king smart guy and do whatever they say.. why?
Because they are too fucking stupid to be objective.
Now get off my fucking land nigger.
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>>539309343
Nah, even in hunter-gatherer societies the prime hunters or those with the most authority would get the choice parts of the kill or the most prestigious part (liver etc) and would dole out the rest as per the status of members, so there was a pecking order of sorts, though not comparable with the stratified societies post-agricultural revolutions obviously.
For your conception of reality to be viable, you would need to emulate these tribes as closely as possible: Small, ethnically homogeneous, kin-based with shared spiritual worldview and mores. The modern, secular, materialist, open-borders Left is pretty much the opposite of that. You will simply end up with another CHAZ every time.
>>539311045
They didn't. It stems from Mesopotamia/Fertile Crescent and spread westward. Circumcised semites and their demon god(s) spread this cancer across the world.
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>>539304908
>tribes still beat rapists to death
Tribes would also beat theives and invaders. So the core premise of this thread is invalidated.
Thanks for playing.
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>>539304574
>The greedy evil fuck that invented and forced private property rights is at fault for all of this.
I need a place to sleep. I want it to be the same place as last night, to be the same place tomorrow night. You can't be in that place, because you're a creepy pervert and I don't trust you. And I'll kill you if you try. And everyone will cheer.
That's the gist of "private property". And it's a perfect concept, because failfucks like you end up dead when you try to subvert it.
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>>539312365
No you retard. If a hunter became an uppity asshole that thought he was better than everyone, then he was quickly checked by the whole tribe. And if he continued to hoard resources and try to dominate the whole social structure, then he would likely get his bones shattered and thrown into a ditch for the wild animals to claim.

Survival of the group matters more than your individualist bullshit.
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>>539312549
You won't do shit but talk nigger. Just run your little gay mouth to make yourself feel better about your faggot self.
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>>539304574
Two threads?
>>539303896
Faggot.
>No one had to pay rent or mortgage before civilization.
You had to constantly threaten or carry out violence against others trying to take where you lived for themselves. Stop being retarded.

BTW OP is a dumb nigger who says this one minute:
>Simple solution, own one fucking house for yourself and that's it!
And this the next:
>All things should be publicly owned by the people. Privatization is the jews trumpet siren.
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>>539312850
OP is a seething commie mexicant. They have been promoting the dialectic for decades despite it ruining their countries.
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>>539312721
Haha stupid sheltered naive western middle-class dolt thinks he knows how ancient tribal groups actually functioned. You should try reading some actual ethnographical and anthropological accounts of tribal groups. Shit, there are literally thousands to choose from, written by people who lived among groups across the world - from the Yanomami to Khoi-San, to Aboriginals- and accounts stemming from the early modern period to the present day. ALL societies have hierarchy of some kind. The pecking order is universal.
Try reading about actual accounts instead of the fictional, idealised, noble savage jewish bullshit created by Hollywood, you fucking indoctrinated moron. We all saw your meme ideology fail in real time at CHAZ lmao
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>>539304714
>The earth is not a spinning ball though, Satan lied about that too.
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>>539312721
Survival of the group almost always depends upon competent leadership.
Without organized succession structures (democracy, hereditary rite, etc.) that leadership takes the form of "whoever people naturally defer to." These are typically going to be competent people who are generally pleasant to be around.
Authority grows naturally from social preferences and from that authority grows privilege. The system quickly becomes self feeding as the winners get to arbitrarily decide who the losers are and people are happy to take from the losers and give to the winners because that's how social biases operate.

In short: tribal heirarchies functioned a lit like a dysfunctional inner-city high school but with much more violence.
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>>539313097
Especially concerning canoe niggers and what they did to their kids.
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>>539304574
Most animals that depend on scarce resources (ie: most predators) claim territory as their own. Nothing was ever free and as long as people's livelihoods depend on something, it will be claimed. Deal with it.
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>>539313274
Maoris would absolutely beat the shit out of their kids - and still do - if they got out of line. They'd do far worse to their enemies. They had a strict hierarchical society with a Rangatira (chief) at the top and the concept familiar to many from vidya and table top - that of Mana or spiritual authority - determined the pecking order and who could do what and who got what, as well. The idea that tribes doled everything out equally is just nuts. Even the most primitive hunter-gatherer tribes award the choicest pieces of meat to the most skilled hunter and so on down the pecking order.
OP is just a tranny leftist retard who can't hack it in the real world (not that there aren't serious issues with the current jewish usury slave system, but he'd have the same problems were it to be overthrown tomorrow) and so wants to escape to a fictional, idealised past where he would be catered to and looked after, without making any real contribution.
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>>539313760
They do extreme child sexual abuse and mutilation as standard practices as well. It seems extremely prevalent among the small island cultures.
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>>539312830
This.
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>>539307734
Only a kike needs these systems to exist because kikes can't fight to save their lives.
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>>539304574
>No one had to pay rent
Yes they did. If you wanted to hunt or fish on Chief Workshard's territory, you had to either be related to him or his friends or pay him something in return from what you killed or caught.
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>>539313947
Yes. I am more familiar with Polynesian and Melanesian tribes and these acts were common especially during initiation and coming-of-age rites.
Most are familiar with the cum tribe of New Guinea, where young boys becoming men were forced to drink the cum of every adult male of the tribe, but there were similar forms of abuse across the region. When Abo girls in certain tribes started bleeding, they were immediately sexually abused by the entire tribe. This was done to young children as well.
In more hierarchical chiefdom societies, like the Maori, you would only get fucked up for doing that if you did it to one above your station - like the relative of a chief or Tohunga (priest).You can literally read old anthropological journals full of this stuff. OP Is a sheltered retard.
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>>539304574
Checkmate.
/thread.
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>>539304574
look up cost of cinder blocks locally. Costs 4000 or so to build a house
lol

the main facts are
1) you are slave
2) you are too dumb to think about more than a few things per day
3) soon everyone got implanted brain chip at birth, this is the end
that's all, I think
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>>539313445
>as long as people's livelihoods depend on something, it will be claimed. Deal with it.
Then human beings are a failed species and destined for extinction if they cannot evolve beyond their basic survival nature and learn to distribute resources more equitably.
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>>539304737
Before civilization we could have sex with 14 year old girls like a normal person and not have glowniggers trying to fuck you up for looking at them wrong. So checkmate, glowie. You know they love it too. :^]
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Entire global system is founded on debt.
Nothing lasts forever



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