Anyone claiming they've been "Debunked" has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.The logical conclusion of believing austerity and trickle down don't work... is the belief that taxing the rich and then deficit financing a huge bloated government on stupid bullshit is how you build a prosperous country.
Why not just have small government and simultaneously have strong laws protecting unions and strong antitrust laws and laws separating investment banks and personal/commercial banks?
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>>539312763how about abolish the central bank, let the big banks fail, have the government vote on printing money, have every state have its own banking sector and no banks crossing state lines
>>539312902Screw your local rates.
>>539312763austerity for the bankers first. no more qe. let them fail.
>>539312902Because that's not small government, that's the government sticking its hand into the economy to screw things up and make it more inefficient>protect unionsThat's a code for forcing all workers in a certain industry to be in a union, meaning the labor supply is artificially restricted, pushing up the cost of production, and keeping anyone outside of the union locked out of the industry. It's a guild system that excludes people. Now you have good productive people who can't get a job because the union doesn't want to bring them in. >Anti-trust lawsIf a firm is big in a free market it's because that is what is efficient. Forcing it to break apart and become less efficient competing entities with duplication costs will drive down efficiency and prosperity.>laws separating investment banks and personal/commercial banks?Banks should be allowed to take deposits and invest it in stocks or conduct IPOs if their customers agree to it. Not only are you inhibiting customers from getting their maximum return but you're starving financial markets of capital and artifically pumping mortgage markets with excess capital.
>>539312763You can let the 1% piss all over you but Fascism provides a better economic structure
>>539312763I guess the local colleges are doing intro to economics today. I can't wait till next week for you to post something else from your textbook.
>>539313224>Abolish central bankCould be done long term but right now we need to monetize the debts to some extent or we'd have a giga-crash>have government vote on printing moneyThat would be way worse than our current system, whenever monetary power gets in the peoples' hands they fuck it up and vote for unlimited gibs.>>539313285QE is the most populist way of increasing the money supply. It's newly printed money going to the government or to pay off government debt.
>>539313357>FascismEnjoy having your familys yacht seized and turned into a warship because you think authoritarianism is cool.
>>539313387The internet is free, your lack of education is nobody's fault but yourself at this point.
>>539312763Your graph of a theoretical economic concept has no bearing on a discussion of whether that concept works in the real world. What you need to show is two causal inference statistics. If austerity works, then a decrease in taxes with a matching decrease in government spending should result in an increase in GDP growth. If trickle down works, a decrease in corporate taxes should result in an increase in real median household income. Absent either of those, everything you say is empty words.
>>539313346> the economy needs asset bubbles from printed moneydrop dead>>539313437if money printing is such a good idea, make the congress vote on it. also go to hell
>>539313687its just like in the comic book >>539313224 the economics professor the bank endowed with the 419(k) money says blah blak risk blah blah valuation and when asked "what does that have to do with the price of tea in china", well, thats the one question he likes to answer, supply and demand curves
>>539313687>What you need to show is two causal inference statistics. If austerity works, then a decrease in taxes with a matching decrease in government spending should result in an increase in GDP growth. If trickle down works, a decrease in corporate taxes should result in an increase in real median household income.None of this is relevant in anyway. If something isn't derived through math, abstraction, or rationalization, it's completely meaningless and I don't even listen to it.There's no way to totally isolate in an experiment, all experiments are flawed by the nature of an imperfect Universe, therefore they're pointless.
>>539313705You just explained why they shouldn't vote on it.I hope scum like you get confused for someone else by the cartels and your penis gets flayed.
>>539313838Causal inference is the core of real economics dipshit. That anon talking about intro to econ in college is probably right. If your theory can't withstand being tested, then it is no better than horoscope pseudoscience.
>In this imaginary world were there's free enterprise we found x>In real life Jews gave trillions to monopolies that laid everybody off and created a fertility crisis>Because Jews are shit at optics they randomly started whining about "socialism," while Trump just destroyed the Epstein files and started betraying Republicans.
>>539312763>America does stimulus during GFC.>Has a better recovery than Euros who try retardation (your ideology) based on an excel formula error.>America does stimulus again for COVID shocks.>Comes out ahead by every metric. Ermmmm...who care about your meandering retard posts? I certainly won't be staying to debate your nonse-sense!
>>539312763>you either agree with trickle down or you're a loan tardYour false dichotomy is the same thing twice. Drop the memeflag and try again, retard.
>>539312763OP is stuck in 1990that shit has been failing for 30 years
>>539314025Real science, real math, and any real intellectual discipline is done abstractly.Advanced math is the perfect example.Only stupid people still cite experimentation as a proper source of epistemology.
>>539312763Trickle down doesn't work because all projects funded by private capital are designed to extract more money than was invested while limiting beneficial externalities (because those externalities can also be sold as a product)
>>539314257>why would you seek an application for your pointless mental masturbation?>all intellectual disciplines should be purely mental masturbationYour skull is apparently a horrific place to inhabit. Have you considered airing it out?
>>539314131How well has your Neo-Nazism and white nationalism been working the last forty years? People can't afford rent.
>>539314482>delusional gloatingPffff.
>>539314257Real science follows the scientific method in which experimentation is the most important part. If you can't justify your theory with an experiment, your theory is probably wrong. Honestly I'm amazed that this of all things is your argument. I was expecting something more, but this is pathetic. Rather than taking intro to econ as an elective for your math degree, you should swap it to your major. You'll be horrified to learn that half of the courses you need to take are statistics, because real economists do in fact rely on causal inference for their theories now.
>>539314140Holy fuck American education is dogshit. Please don't vote.
>>539314609That's not real science, that's Onions shit
>>539315350>I should be allowed to spitball retardation and remain unquestionedYou're on estrogen, aren't you.
eco libs should be hunted in the streets with dogs
>>539312763This graph looks like what a retard would believe science is.Economics is a scam. What you presented is just a narrative with a graph.
>>539312902>Protect unionsWhy? So non-union members are at a disadvantage and defacto must join the most dominant union?>Anti-trustMonopolies don't exist without government intervention and moronic laws like IP protection.>Separating personal/investment banksWhat in the world do you think this will accomplish?
>>539315489>I should be allowed to run a bullshit study and then say whatever I wantYou're literally a tranny. That's what trannies do.
>>539315562Science is for white trash who don't have the connections to get into finance or study economics. Experiments are a scam, there's no way to properly control for anything. It's just stupid people in labcoats.
>>539315749This is why every one of your conquerors abandoned you. Even your own words lack meaning to you.
>sources cited
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>>539315823What conquerers? It's people like me who conquer while you whine in the ditch.
>>539314204Last 30 years have proven me right.30 years of taxing the rich to death and giving everything to the lazy has created a crisis.
>>539315785Bro, you are schizophrenic. Literally. See a psychiatrist for anti-psychotic medication.
>>539315562>economics is a scamEconomics has been LARPing as a science for over half a century now. An economics paper won't be taken seriously unless its published without an experiment or some statistics backing it up. Actual economists in the workforce spend most of their time collecting/processing data to make it into statistics if they are outside of acedemia, or using statistics to argue about theory if they are within acedemia. Those graphs are just shit they show children in or fresh out of high school to make the subject seem more interesting.
>>539316578Those scientists are just losers larping as high class. They are paid like shit because they never got into the private sector.The real scientists are ones working either for Silicon Valley making $300k a year, or working in finance making $300-500k a year. If someone is running an experiment, they're a loser.
>>539312763>trickle down economics doesn’t work!t. Man who has never had a job posting from his iPhone
>>539312763>belief that taxing the rich>deficit financing a huge bloated governmentThese two things have nothing to do with each other. At all. You're conflating a good thing with a bad thing to make the good thing look bad.
>>539316685Lmfao silicon valley tech and finance are both grounded in data science. You genuinely are retarded.
Austerity preserves debt created out of nothing, the proper solution is a default. A side benefit is that it would kill the practice of turning debt into securities that can be bought and sold.
>>539317106>lets just vanish all of our citizens retirement savingsNah
>>539317063No they didn't.One of my friends who works at Goldman right now graduated in history. You're dumber than rocks.
>>539317237> stupid goyim need us to inflate asset bubbles or their 419(k)'s will popburn in hell>>539317925>graduated in history. You're dumber than rocks.youre a worthless propagandist for a failed evil system, God hates you, youre going to hell
>>539318726You oppose Trickle Down Economics, the only system with 100% success rate, it is almost a Godly system in a way.God will flay your penis forever.
>>539312763>GDP went upYou faggots always conveniently leave out that it went to the people at the top.>the top 1% gets 99% of the gains >the other 99% split the remaining 1%Then with inflation it ends up that only the wealthy got wealthier.
>>539319867>You faggots always conveniently leave out that it went to the people at the top.Thank Democrats for that, thank Obama for that.>inflationThat's Democrats, not Republicans
>>539313437>have government vote on printing moneyThat would be way worse than our current system, whenever monetary power gets in the peoples' hands they fuck it up and vote for unlimited gibs.How would you explain picrel when government cheese wasn't on the menu in the 1700s and 1800s
>>539312763Nah. The sane shit was pandered in the 1840s.
>>539320005Bush Jr. and the neocons increased national debt by $4 trillion to fund a war.Project Stargate and the Big Beautiful Bill under Trump increased it by ~2Trillion in his first year.Show flag kike.
>>539312763You're a retard who wants to an hero on a permanently shrinking pie, while thanking the boot stepping on you.
>>539320109They had the gold standard which basically was an automatic restraint against excessive money printing.If you have fiat money, you need a very disciplined government. We've done a pretty good job all things considered, but that's because of the FED independence reinforced by the Treasury Accord of 1951. Trump is trying to break it down right now.>>539320497Bush and Trump aren't dictators, Democrat policies still in effect like social security, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, foreign aid, and green energy programs have bankrupted the U.S
>>539320568You're a dummy who spends summers on his daddys Yacht while pretending to be Che Guvara. You love the people who want your family dead.
>>539320582the problem is the government inflates asset bubbles and sells the country
