I find it weird to not be talked about here at all, but EU just killed tinkering and cheap student innovations. While posturing as healthy means against evil clothes with dangerous chemicals, the EU also simultaneously soft banned all electronics with their nonsensical import rules. Who's going to buy 0.30€ cables if they're 3,59€ now? SPI screen driver, batch of buckboost converters, some obscure tof sensor. A tinker project on ali comes at twice the cost in fees then the parts itself now. Sure you could just pay up for the better(lol) import screening, or pay a dropshipper for three to sometimes ten times the amount it would've originally cost on ali(nevermind shenzen prices). Other alternatives? Nonexistent.However, who has no money for these kinds of shenanigans? Students and hobbyists, who are struck by ever rising living costs anyway.Well done EU, way to ensure we will never see another Prusa moment in our life.
>>539330465Good thing there are no tinkerers or diychads in Europe as Europeans are only concerned with scamming guns, chucking sickies and being smug about their funeral pyre
>>539330575Can you use english words? Else i have no idea what you're talking about. Feel free to post some australian maker stuff that isn't DDR machine #482945 though.
>>539330465Everyone here knows the EU is a parasite, leftist however think it's good, normies are too stupid to know anything, and the boomers are to brainwashed.
>>539330465> ensure that products meet the safety standardFuck, they should have made it 6 euros, for twice the safety.> businesses play by the same rulesRight, because domestic shipping already has the 3 euro fee.
>>539330465You niggas don't know how aliexpress and temu work do you? If anything the EU sped up the delivery time. Notice how it says for low-value parcels? Meaning shut Chang sends directly out of his Shanghai sweatshop? In the past years aliexpress et al. Established various warehouses all over Europe. Meaning they will just expand those further. Importing in bulk is not affected by this so prices won't increase that much and you will get your chink shit even faster because its sent from within the EU.
>>539330465>i want to keep ordering 30 cent buttplugs from china every day because I can't live without globohomo>>539330642>telling a native speaker to speak more englishOnly a german could be this insufferable. IRL you would be upside down in a trash can right now you unfathomably gay homosexual
We were bad goys for realizing the exact same items we used to purchase on Amazon could be purchased on Aliexpress for 30% of the price.
It's because of the smoke isn't it...
I hope China wins. fuck the EU and most of all fuck the muttmerica
>>539330789See>>539330704They already won lol. EU politicians being the clueless fucks they always are. They limit personal import of small items s to not overwhelm they customs agencies in favor of bulk imports.
this sucks because I like to import vidyaI guess I'll have to declare ¥4k instead of ¥10k to keep the fees somewhat reasonablemaybe ¥3k even¥2k even...
>>539330824I will acknowledge their victory once muttmerica ceases to exist
>>539330731You must buy local quality instead of chinkshit!>Note that this does only apply to the end consumer, companies can absolutely shut down their local production and buy from China for 3ct less. Global supply chains are not made for the goyim.
>>539330824it is just about moneyit's tax((they)) also fined ali express 550 million for literally nothingali will appeal and lose and might chose to close shop and rename rather than to pay
>>539330465aka we cant compete with china
>>539330952no, there is zero ambition for thatthey want to collect easy moneygoyim will pay
>>539330465So your whore corporate overlords will have to open a warehouse in the EU.How terrible.
>>539330729>scamming guns>chucking sickies>funeral pyreSurely you can tell me what these are without looking them up, "my fellow german".
>>539330952We're importing millions of niggers, muslims, and indians, soon enough we will be competing with Sudan. The fact that the EU both promotes open borders, and does not punish countries like Spain who import millions from their ex-colonies means this process will be faster rather slower. What happens when the US cuts back even more on what has effectively been to subsidize the EU economy through lucrative trade deals?
You get what you fucking deserve
>>539330465Sorry Kraut, Europe only exists to subsidize your STEM education. If you want to actually do something with it, you have to move here.
>>539331085ECB will have to print moneyand or, ask for public property of those countries as collateraleffectively buying those countries outand that is towards future federalizationyou will also need the super state to protect you against the nigger, since it would be illegal to protect yourself
>>539330465Is it worth logistically to buy 0.30€ worth of wire from china? I get it. Your product gets bundled with the others. Still however to reach it’s final destination it requires quite a lot of transport. So if the customs tariff wouldn’t exist, but you potentially needed to wait 2 months for your small parcel, because you’d wait until your region fulfills a small van worth transporting. Which one you’d prefer?
>>539330465We need to rinse the Germans some more for the glory of Ukraine, Slavs and the Jews
>>539330465EU has always been a kiked operation. They have VAT taxes there, which is full soviet union commie jew tax on everything. Seemed like the kikes managing the soviets simply migrated to the EU.
>>539331196OP's hypothetical DIY poorfag student living on whatever money he can scrape together while studying would prioritize cheap prices over anything else because money is the resource he has the least. Even if it meant waiting months for the package to arrive
>>539331524>which is full soviet union commie jew tax on everything.What do you think a sales tax is?
>>539331196>Is it worth logistically to buy 0.30€ worth of wire from china?yes because you have no useless taxes to eu and blanket prices with blanket prices from green policies for the same shitty product as an shopkeep and as a customer who have to overprice literally anything because some jewish communist in brussels said so
>It's not tariffs because we don't call it tariffs>You don't pay for it but you pay for it
>>539330642As if the German would ever chuck a sickie
>>539331524i wish it was just VAT, there are taxes on everything and forever.>>539330465the EU as a ruling body is an instrument of parasitic authoritarians and it operates without any kind of oversight.
>>539331713so much this despite of that thing being not limited to PRC but generally to anyone from non eu
>>539330465Basically and summarized way " A kurva anyátokat " to Von Der Liar .
>>539330872>You must buy local quality instead of chinkshit!i know you are just shitposting but THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HERE THAT ISINT AN IMPORT OR AN GREY IMPORTEuropoor isint a meme its an reality since we culled any of our civilian economy for imports that euro sodomites mask as trade influence
>oh noes, what ever will I do with all these 3€ coupons I get from aliexpress ?!man, fuck the state and his gay ass communistic approaches to global problems
>>539331748I can't send anything to my family in the EU because it gets stuckAnd it ruins my chinkshit enjoyment while I am there>50 yuro Anker headphones from AliExpress vs 80 yuro Amazon Anker headphones, same model>order from AliExpress >order stuck in customs a week later>released after showing receipt>mail lady asks me for €29,30Saved 70 cents fuck you
>save EU manufacturing Manufacturing what
Is the german man the most cucked living thing in the entire universe?>lets millions of male invaders from the worst and most violent nations in>feeds them, gives them money, cares for them, nurtures them >the feral wildlings go totally apeshit. They fuck, rape and kill german women. They steal, rob, betray, scam and swindling the last penny out of the german man‘s pocket>germany can’t get rid of the invasion.>they breed worse than rabbits>like an invasive species, they soon take over the entire host nation>year after year, the government raises taxes to finance the costs of this invasion.>the country will slowly transform into an absolute shithole >leftist politicians protect these foreign orc invaders and discredit every critic>like a good little tame and castrated beta cuck, the german man does absolutely nothing against thisHow can a single creature be this cucked?
>>539331081First of all: EZ. Get gud. Second: Even if not, that's how you learn things you cheeky cocksucker. That's what you're supposed to do if you don't understand something. Look it up, not complain like the most entitled cunt faggot ever born>everybody stop talking right now, you all have to restrict yourselves in your own language and only use easy dictionary words, because of meeeeee (I'm the main character)
>>539331932zu einem dialog gehören immer zwei, man passt sich gegenseitig an und nutzt normsprache. Ich schwall hier doch auch nicht im übelstem pälzisch krum.
>>539331831>I can't send anything to my family in the EU because it gets stucki feel that pain despite me importing the antiques and clothingbecause in eu everything no matter how shitty is taxed to hell and in fact often imported anyway and sold for far more
>>539331923jews wielding guilt over the six gorillion and Hitler
>>539331196Yet, it doesn't take two months, it takes one to two weeks, which yes, people are more than willing to wait.>>539331713At least that's a general idiocy and not uniquely european.>>539331932>can't name a single oneok.
>>539331986I always bring seeds in with me, fuck it
>>539331814>Europoor isint a meme its an reality since we culled any of our civilian economy for imports that euro sodomites mask as trade influenceThe only difference is that you have to buy from whatever the regional brand of Ali Express is with a warehouse in EU.Unironically this means better service at marginally less cost.The way it is implemented is that the 3€ is per category and shipment (so cables + LEDs are two taxable events while LEDs and normal lamps would get taxed once if it comes in one shipment).It's as OP says, a grift to squeeze individual consumers, but it will also force Chinks to move their warehouses to the EU which will mean EuroChink Express will now offer 48 hour deliveries everywhere in the EU and effectively outcompete European businesses as well.It is probably 6 months out, but it is what will happen.It could also potentially force Ali and Temu to fix their offerings and standardize them (so you get less scams given EUs consumer rights regulations and regional presence by EuroChink Express).China can adapt to this faster than EU can produce an alternative, which is why we are fucked.I would assume Fyndiq or CDON gets bought up, they are after all just peddling chinkshit already with regional warehouses. Buying them and introducing a third regional player makes sense, and it would make Amazon irrelevant.
>>539331877>Manufacturing whatapart from the bottle caps joke ... nothing.If you give attention and try to trace back the things here in the EU, you will realize EVERYTHING is relabeled chinese stuff.Not in the small shops.In the big marketplace, in the fancy shops.Relabeled and overpriced chinese stuffs.This was the primary problem of the faggot EU, you bypassed the 3-4 times higher priced resellers and did direct shopping from the chinese suppliers.Even IF the EU would like to produce and/or manufacture anything we could not do, because the conditions Brussels created.Manufacturing/producing capabilities, supply chains and energy infrastructure completely got demolished because of shady environmental reasonings.
>>539330704>Importing in bulk is not affected by this so prices won't increase that muchLOL.>>539332076>Unironically this means better service at marginally less cost.LOL.You cannot buy small electronic components cheaply anymore. The prices have increased to insane levels. This will and already has had an impact in the electronics space. Insane that some idiots aren't thinking things through before they spew this bs.
>>539332184>Insane that some idiots aren't thinking things through before they spew this bs.its da yurobean idea
>>539331877>pic how odd that thos eu tech COs are stil ldwarfes compared to US tech sector>inb4 sapsap is just glorified excel spreadsheet that only got fully sucesfull trough bribery: and if it wouldnt be of US they would be bribing to this day for exclusivity deals
>>539330465>Who's going to buy 0.30€ cables if they're 3,59€ now?Yes let's use trucks, ships and planes to transport 30 cents worth of chink cables so some asshat in bumfuck goymany.
>>539331877Those EU companies are payment processing companies, similar to klarna.
>>539332297The electronic kike
>>539332020>he wants me to name things like we're talking face to face and I couldn't totally have looked it up just now>this is supposed to prove anythingGoing to /pol/ reminds me of why i'm such a self hating german. You're all entitled boomers. It's so grotesque. Germans turn into boomers shortly after adolescence and you're a prime example>>539331984Noch so ein Boomer. Normsprache lmao. >He goes to the place where people break every language norm existing, tell each other racial slurs and to kys all day every day>guys can we speak NoRmSpRaChE pleasekek
>>539330465tbdesu, if I invented something, I would just set up the business in China so I don't have to be disappointed when my company gets bought out by Soros money, then sent overseas and my company replaced entirely by subhuman replacements from Africa or India; let alone just imagine how much tax, regulations or retarded government sponsored protesters there would be if you invent anything here in Europe.Don't forget the moment you discover something these rat bastards want to assassinate you and decide that some fentanylated retard monkey invented it instead of you. This whole world is full of thieves and bad actors. Fuck 'em, let them stay in the stone age for all I care.
>>539332289I used to think the dutch were smarter people, but you’re a disgrace to your kind.They didn’t ship items one by one, but exactly the same way a larger store places an order.In containers.Until enough items/packages have been collected to fill the container, ship, plane .. and later the truck, and then the van from customs to the post office ..no one goes anywhere, and no fuel is wasted.Alos the packaging doesn't change much whether you order it yourself or a large store orders it. Each item has its own individual packaging, and that's how it ends up on the shelf and on the hook where it hangs.
>>539331780Why? Tariffs are welcome on the cheap cancerous shit jeets and chinks export to us. Local manufacturing has a chance to catch up and compete. Ez kivételesen jó.
>>539332076>The only difference is that you have to buy from whatever the regional brand of Ali Express is with a warehouse in EU.which means nothing for the customer as price still stays. Second the warehouse claim also cannot hold because cink wont move it to country in the end where he would be also taxed to hell if customs manage to fiund goods for which flat price taxes and fees apply in EU.Also as a cherry on top this isint exclusive to ali express or whatever chinesium store but to everyone thus effectively bottlenecking anyone smaller to go fuck hmself to afford to have market in EUtldr still you pay for EU jewish pedo ring in brussels
>>539332324>AHHH DIESE VERDAMMTEN BOOMER RUNIEREN ALLESdu weinerlisches mädchen
>>53933046518 billion shekels in revenue a year, not bad.
>>539332445I accept your concession boomie
>>539332384Yeah a little shortsighted from me. Now you can choose to pay 3.95 at a physical store or pay 3.95 to the EUBoth are ripping you off. Bigly.
the 3 euro is per product group not per parcel. importers buy like 1000 cables at once
>>539331877Useless stuff like UV lithography machines. No purpose whatsoever.
>>539330465Tariffs are only bad when orange man does them okay????!!
>>539330465>I find it weird to not be talked about here at all, but EU just killed tinkering and cheap student innovations.I thought the total failure of the EU to enforce any kind of patent protection against the chinese has already done this, much easier to legislate bottle caps afterall.
>>539332182finally an neighbor who sees that there is NOTHING for civilian economy>Even IF the EU would like to produce and/or manufacture anything we could not do, because the conditions Brussels created.not only that but also thanks by EUs demands on civilian economy in the end financially no one would meet the demands that are the product of someone who never worked
>>539330952Aka: you HAVE to pay 300% to 400% the price on Ali for literally the exact same item on Amazon.de mass imported and drop shipped by a Turkish housewife in Berlin.
>>539332182>order loose fridge parts from China>assemble the thing in Turkey or Poland>slap a made in EU sticker on it, mission accomplishedYeah we're producing very little
>>539332678that option would be to reduce economic activity
>>539330465how will a 3 euro customs charge ensure that products meet safety standards? like how are they gonna implement it? Check every package?
>>539332394>Local manufacturing has a chance to catch up and compete.And are you going to fart into the wind turbine so the generator will run?Manufacturing and production involve high energy consumption, for which there is no infrastructure in the European Union, since everything has been banned and dismantled. (This is one of the reasons the people are not allowed to use air conditioners, and the same will apply to heaters in the winter period.)Even if this reasoning were incomprehensible to you, the other two critical problems remain.One is that the factories needed to manufacture these products do not exist in Europe .. or if they ever did, they were demolished, leaving not even a single brick standing today.The other, even more critical problem is the raw materials, which are also unavailable in Europe. Some have never existed here, while the local extraction of others is too polluting.The fact that the energy infrastructure’s supply chain has not been resolved in Europe. The fact that raw material supply chains have been banned and dismantled in Europe. The fact that everything has been labeled as needing to be eliminated in Europe .. based on environmental justifications and a smug, moralistic claim that “we’re better than that.”No, this whole process does absolutely nothing to help local production; it only serves to further empty the average person’s pockets and cause the European continent to fall even further behind the rest of the world.
>>539332731it won't, it is just a tax
I love paying 10€ on Amazon.de for shit I can get for 2.38€ on ali. Thank you Ursula!
>>539332289Do you even logistics?Goods are always transported en masse because otherwise logistically no one would bother with international purchases>>539332731they wont check shit its jsut an tariff without saying its tariff because they dont want you to have nice things
>>539330465>Just tinkering, broThat's how drones were invented. You want more horrors of basement imagination?
>>539332726What economic activity jewish daycares?
>>539330465translation>here's a new tax, fuck you peasents.
>>539332731Pay themselves wages for the purpose established European product safety standards board
>>539332810the result of the tax will be less orders, less economy, that will have know off effecteu's general economy will slow down, so less taxes will be collected
Great change.The amount of useless fucking trash people buy from there is astronomical. Even the clothes are fucking worthless and the tools are more dangerous than anything else. Don't even wanna know what is inside the electronics from there.Buy shit, buy twice - Temu is the perfect example of that.
>>539330465The eu is gonna be disassembled and sold off between the us and china this century.
>>539332184>You cannot buy small electronic components cheaply anymore. The prices have increased to insane levels.Yes you can, but not in mainstream stores.>>539332412>taxed to hell if customs manage to fiund goods for which flat price taxes and fees apply in EU.Look at how the tax is implemented.Sure, even with added VAT etc it is still cheap (btw, you are supposed to add it yourself when buying from China).So what they don't store in the EU will, like today, have long delivery times but be sent to EU batch wise in "per category" shipments.If the Temu/Ali prices double it makes virtually no real difference.>Also as a cherry on top this isint exclusive to ali express or whatever chinesium store but to everyone thus effectively bottlenecking anyone smaller to go fuck hmself to afford to have market in EUExactly. And as with most EU regulations, the result is almost universally that they fuck local smaller producers and aid the same entities they claim to protect against.And ofc, multinationals will always get a free pass, but nobody talks about them.Almost all new legislation supports the multinational megacorporations and kills any local competitor before they get big.Unfortunately for the EU, they can't kill the foreign competition to the corrupt globalized giants in the same way.
>>539332394> Local manufacturing has a chance to catch up and compete.okay Vlad and now reality>energy there is none as all methods of cheap and plentiful energy production are scuttled by EU bottlenecking the infrastructire>Resourcesfuck all as domestic resource exploitation was scuttled for cheap imports creating dependancy on foregin powers and enviomental reasons>indsutry building itselfall was shipped to asia and rest is planned to follow or to India so nothing to produce as there is no one able since all infrastructure was dismantled and with it factories >financesfinancailly unsustainable to produce something in EU as several tax, fee, regulatory fees, norms, requirements, blanket prices, emmision spendings, regulations on goods where a whole train can be stamped out for a mineal bullshit causing the loss of loads of money if your insurance is shit which spoiler it istldrall infrastructure and resource requirements are dismantled, destoryed or are dependant on foregin imports which in the end still means nothing
Lone wolf electronics enthusiasm has been illegal in the eu for a quarter century. First they banned etching your own boards for environmental reasons, then it became an offence to solder two components together
>>539330465>noo we should depend more on Chinese exportsShut up
>>539330465it's clear theft, but nearly everything what EU does is you gotta order in bulkon the other hand it was kind of silly that you could fly an item worth 1 euro, from half of the world away and not even pay for the shipment, because chinese gov was subsidizing it. How were you supposed to compete with that as a domestic producer? you couldn't.
>>539333046These artisinal b0mb makers should fuck off to Yemen. White defence bros work for saab
looks like my fellow finns are idiots :D
>>539333105the problem here does not lie on the dependence of chinese exports/imports. The problem is that there are literally no other alternatives to chink imports/exports anymore because noone else produces shit, especially in the EU that took a page out of muttmerican imperialism and started turning into a "service provider" only economy.
TIL: If you give €3 to the government, they will neutralize the toxins in your polyester t-shirts from China.Who would have thought "safety" works like this? It's commie magic.
>>539330465so what should I buy if I want to get into tinkering and hardware? I want to see the prices for myself I checked botland and berrybase it doesnt seem that expansive.
>>539330465wow the eu commission needs more of my money to send to migrant niggers and ukoniggers hohols
>>539330465>The EU is introducing a 3€ customs charge.>It will feed the propaganda machine.
>>539333257It's called "indulgences"; a great European product of the ages
>>539330465if you want to tinker you need to move to china
>>539333329Desolderng components is dabbling in electronic waste, a crime. Old atmel controllers are not safe. Use the new ones since microchip bought them. Ordering free samples from manufacturers will get you on a watch list
>>539333149AHHHHH!!!! WHY DONT SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE CHINESE MEGACORPOS THAT SHIT THOUSAND NOSETWEEZERS FOR 50CENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>AI generated image regarding governmental issuesdamn 22 year old roastie jobs are so fucking easy nowadays at the EU parliament
>>539330465Trips to China will become popular soon, or have a friend that goes to China buy stuff, I can send you stuff next year's, I'm going to Shanghai, just name everything you need
>>539333755More like sumptuary laws.Checked.
>>539330465the eurojew needs to sell you the same shit for 4x markup, so they will keep humiliating you until you just buy from amazonnot falling for it, im still gonna buy my chinkshit at a reasonable price from chinks
>>539330465Can't you just order in bigger batches? I agree it's a bit retarded, but you already can't efficiently make lots of super small orders because of the postal charges.
>>539332741This whole thing must have been ple-planned, because I refuse to believe that people can be that stupid. In a short couple of years the entire industrial infrastructure of Europe was fully dismantled. No energy, no raw materials, the main manufacturers killed of so all the existing supply chain is dying with them as well. Without these you cannot fund a welfare state, so all the imported third world mongrels will start to chimp out in a year or two.
>>539335713you're forced to buy from the "choice" section for that, since that works like Amazon and sends all in one package.regular sellers send a packet each, sometimes they get bundled but not always. ali still only charges 3 eur so I don't know how they're handling that on the custom side
>>539330465you will own nothing and you will be happy.Under free market and capitalism this would never had happened and you even could make this shit yourself in your garage.But under socialists and communists, we are back to feudalism where they decide what you can have or not, but they make it look like it is not their doing, so bunch of cretins think it is capitalism at fault.I guarantee you half of the people who were buing stuff from china will blame greedy chinks raising prices insead of EU regulations because they are too stupid to understand world around them.
>>539335919No, even choice racks up 3€ per category. Cable, controller, converter, breadboard, 12€ in fees(plus taxes).
>>539330465there are people who order small stupid shit from china for 10 euros and wait a whole month for it to be delivered. now they are chimping because they will have to pay 13 euros. how did we Europeans become this poor?
3€ x 5.9bil= more for Israel. That's what this is about.
>>539336508See >>539336411, slavnigger. It's not about some off brand crimp tool or dress(what this is supposedly about), it's about lots of small stuff needed to do anything.
>>539336579please post your hand mehmet so we can laugh
>>539330465Literally killing comic books.https://bleedingcool.com/comics/judge-dredd-defeated-by-brexit-with-eu-2000ad-subscriptions-surcharges/https://www.comicsbeat.com/new-eu-tariff-means-chaos-for-comics/
>>539330465this has zero effect on me because I don't support chinese economic warfare against the west
Trump implements 50% tariffs: goodEU implements 3€ tariffs: badNever change, /pol/cels.
>>539336508>wait a whole month for it to be deliveredIt's delivered in a week.
>>5393368753€ tariffs on a 1.5€ item is a 100% tariffThe EU needs to be dismanteled and every EUcrat put in front of a wall and killed with his entire family
>>539335907>This whole thing must have been ple-plannedit literally was an deliberate planned effort laszloan deliberate attempt to further undermine native population with other measures aimed to reduce fertility and opportunities to breadwin so they can force racemixing laterno neither you and i are exempt from that no matter how much we hate each other for not agreeing who is wither from 2 of us
>>539330465That's all you fucks can do. Ban, fine, make illegal...all because you can't compete. How the fuck isn't this totalism?Btw, still not buying shit from eu retailers, go fuck yourself.
>>539336508Well what do you prefer personally? Paying 10€ and waiting a month (more like 2 weeks) or paying 30€ to a local reseller and also waiting 2 weeks because the faggot has to import it as wellThe EU is shit and should be dismanteled
>>539337140>The EU needs to be dismanteled and every EUcrat put in front of a wall and killed with his entire familyAgreed.
>>539330866I am buying figures for years from japan and always declare them for 1/10th of their price. I will just do less from now on.
>>539330866>>539337243That's completely redundant. As long you're under 150€, you'll always get a 3€ clap. No matter what.
>>539330465What a meaningless thread. Handling parcels costs money, this is likely just a measure to recoup costs/discourage massive amounts of parcels coming in.
i dont know any euro man (who isnt a faggot) that is not making plans to leave germany/eu all together
>>539336875>3euro default on low value goods>meaning that goods with 1.5 euro value got cca 100 percent hitkill yourself geneva jew
>>539337310No matter what propaganda angle you apply shill, the EUcrat bastards showed again that they are not just an incompetent nuissance but a nunch of totalitarian authocratic bastards that have somehwo managed to marry the worst aspects of the USSR and the third Reich in one gay package.The mistakes after 45 and 90 cant be repeated. No mercy with anybody that in any capacity was active for the EU; contract takers included
>>539337310>Handling parcels costs moneyWhat is "shipping cost", you absolute EU jew gargling faggot?
>>539337175> How the fuck isn't this totalism?rather ask how it isint marxism because that is literally an marxist policy to implement measures to make ownership punitive
>>539337345I know plenty, mostly with kids, but after the recent "reforms" and the still undelivered debureaucratisation, it'll be south korea or gated community in china for me. I already got a few uni friends sitting in later. Both shitholes with their own problems for sure, but at least they let you accumulate wealth.
>>539330465It's not a 3€ customs charge, it's a per TAX CATEGORY!!! Charge. They also changed the packaging laws, and plan another per package charge of 2€ on Top in a few weaks. You now need a package Employee that is responsable in every EU country!
>>539337310>i dont know what is shipping costtell your employer you failed hasbara
>>539337588See >>539331713It's always the same spiel.
>>539330465>Bureaucrats destroy everythingWe know, thankfully I already have all the electronic components needed to tinker and teach my children with. The rest of you are destined to not understand electronics. The OP is right, this is a huge deal. We're already lagging behind China because we don't have industrial places like Shenzhen where you can get everything you need, prototyped, designed, parts for cheap in a small area. The best we have is ordering parts cheaply from Shenzhen and doing it in our bedrooms or home labs. Now this is going to be priced out it's the final nail in the coffin. The future generations are going to be even dumber still. More clueless about technology, tinkering, design, electronics and a whole range of things.ONLY TBD WILL SAVE US NOW - TOTAL BUREAUCRAT DEATH
>>539332215There is a horrible epidemic of low grip strengh going around. Is it low t?
>>539337243>and always declare them for 1/10th of their price.okay... howhow when customs demand as an proof the invoice of goods
This is retarded. It applies to every line item in an order. Say you order 1000x 1k resistors. That will incur a €3 tax. If instead you order 1x 1k resistor, 1x 2k resistor, and 1x 3k resistor, that will be a €9 tax for only 3 resistors vs €3 for 1000 resistors.
We've had similar charges in the states for a while nowChinkshit is still far cheaper than similar stuff on Amazon. You just have to check Temu carefully if it's shipping from them or a 3rd party local warehouse.
>>539330465what did you expect? that theyre gonna one day lower some taxes? its cancer and it progresses indefinitely, tomorrow theres another new tax hike and another new ban, and another 1000 jews imported to take your place.>>539337412faggot, there is no third reich. this is the british jewish empire and youre their slave, just like jeets.
>>539337755It's not to fuck over big companies, but a poor goyim that buys one product here and then. They want you to buy instead here from the guy that bought those 1000 from China and marked them up 500%.
>>539330465>This measure will help strengthen customs checks, protect people across Europe, and ensure that products sold in the EU meet the safety standards we all expectHoly shit, my €3 goytax will magically turn my heckin hazardous chinkshit into doubleplus good safe and wholesome product??? Sign me the fuck up! Can i also pay more tax to fix the weather?
>>539337805Its politically literally the third Reich playbook. Instead of calling it Gaus they call it "member states"
>>539331877SAP being the top earning EU software company is an indictment in and of itself.
>>539337710I would tell you if i was 100% sure you are not one of those colnik faggots. Sorry.
>>539337755first of all nice digitssecond, you take it from the angle where this doesnt hurtthe thing is the customer ie average joe is fucked and not the company buying in bulk since all of it applies on him and its designed to you the lone autist to make foregin chaeper purchases financially punishingthis woudlnt be an problem if eu would be an competioton but again THERE IS NOTHING HERE AND EVERYTHING IS OVERPRICED IMPORT
>>539337892okay then but stilllucky you who can bypass that
>>539330465well fuck i was planning to build an EDMR machine and combine it with MDMA as an experiment but ofcourse as usual getting cucked by the EU
>>539337994>THERE IS NOTHING HERE AND EVERYTHING IS OVERPRICED IMPORTAnd there cannot ever be anything here, because the fucking EUSSR 4th Reich bureaurats who are not to a small part the children and grand children of Nazi and communist bureaurat bastards have made it absolutely irrational to build any production capacity in the EUSSROne can jusrt repeat it, the mistakes after 45 and 90 cannot be repeated. every small paper pushing bureaurat across the entireEUSSR has to be exterminated including his wider family and social circle
>>539330465All that money will go to Ngubu and Muhammad.
>>539338179There is no "money" you stupid fucking marxist fail troll. The EU and its GAUs are on average 90% to their fake GDP in the hole. If one considers legislated entitlements to unproductive burearats, polity bastards and Boomer scum, it easiyl goes to 500%, and that is giving the fake GDP numbers that inlcude bureaurat wages and "public spending" any merit.If one applies a more realistic measurment of economic output, its more like 5000% in the hole
>>539336508They order it from china because noone else manufactures this shit. And now they will have to pay tax for it or order from some local faggot who still gets it from china. So in the end nothing changes and china earns money, but just now EU steals more money from EU citizens.
>>539337857stop being a dumb kikeslave. eu is the international jew. all problems are jews and not "hitler".
>>539330465If it succeeds, then people are tax cattle and deserve to get fleeced for every cuckbuck they have.If it fails, then I guess the Eurotards can’t afford to import a gorillion more shitskinstanians next tear.Win-win, not my problem.Pay for quality instead of mass produced plastic crap anywayWe got 3d printers now so a dirty Romanian can hook you up with that shit anyhow
>>539332741>>539333054>>539335907There are more and more power plants coming online. We are going back to nuclear. The borders are being erected and migrants returned. Stop being alarmist and érints füvet
>>539338179>all the moneywhat money juanwhat money when european central bank isint a state institution but an private onethey can print as much as they want as long as they will suck (you) from any possible physical or intelectual asset with it that actually has a value
>>539338481>joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Marx al Muselmani, you are stupider than a bag of rocks.
>>539330465europe created tinkering and innovation, the rest of the world killed it yw
>>539330465yup i dont know why no one cares. the very first thing that came to my mind when i heard about this was why the fuck is this tailored to only punish the poorest?its an exotic tax that only hits those who were already poor / individuals and protects shitty importers. why do we protect importers? THE INNOVATION WAS TO CUT OUT THE MIDDLE MEN AND THEN EU FAGS PROTECT THE MIDDLE MEN thank you eu lords! truly what we need!surely some big business who is named after a female tribe in antiquity didnt pay any bribes for this :) none at all :)
>>539338643>Pay for quality instead of mass produced plastic crap anywaythats cute and everything but againTHERE IS NOTHING HERE AND NEVER WILL BE ON PURPOSEEVERYTHING IS OVERPRICVED IMPORTbut you can continue to shill for eu anyway >There are more and more power plants coming onlineah yes the soon trademarki heared this since 2010s and still NOTHING>We are going back to nuclear.lol you wont because once you switch it off you wont ever go back with it so again nothing>The borders are being erected and migrants returned. lol no and wont be because gues what jewEU revised the requirements and definition on citizenship so what will return is a marginal NOTHING as everything else is anturalized or will be imported LEGALLYget stabbed by a gypsy
>>539338936>why do we protect importers?It all comes down to the fake GDP fetish that represents the underlying fake metric for the sovereign bond ponzi.
>>539330465Just don't buy the chinkshit garbage.It's the idiot tax you deserve to pay.
>>539339000>j-just buy from the white labeling importer that puts a 500% price increase on the import no
>>539338936It is because we are going back into feudalism thanks to retarded socialists and commies who vote for it.You see serfs in feudalims lived thanks to feudal lords who allowed them to live and gave them enough to survive so they didn't have to think about themselves, just work and be provided with tools, clothes and housing.And this is exaclty what socialists leftists and commies want to have again. Because they fear responsibility like rabid dog fears water.
>>539330465>Muh tinkering>muh EU badBohoo nobody cares. It's just a temporary measure until the new system for imports is established because at the moment it's not possible to add customs to every single 20ct transistor.Just buy in bulk or from a reseller in your country and it doesn't affect you at all.Big fat nothing burger.
>>539339049>feudal lords gave and allowedAh I see a retarded poolack that repeats communist propaganda from the fucking 19th century.A peasant in the 15th century had more wealth and owed less to the "lord" than todays wage cage is extorted by disgisting socialists. Ever heard of the tenth; yes 10% was what the peasant owed of his production to the lord; Germans pay up to 55% of their production into a bureaucratic black fucking hole
>>539339117>Just buy in bulk or from a reseller in your country and it doesn't affect you at all.just buy for higher price through middle man - it doesn't affect you that you pay more!damn you are a fucking retard.
>>539330465It's pure corruption and blatant taxation. I'd understand if it was to protect our manufacturing, but the problem is Europe doesn't product shit, almost everything was outsourced to China. And those who pushed for it? Apparently conglomerate of big european supermarket brands like Zara, Tesco which sell shit they import in bulk from China. They were just butthurt you could bypass middleman hiking up prices.>A tinker project on ali comes at twice the cost in fees then the parts itself nowIt was supposed to be tax per category but they somehow slap it on every item basically doubling price.>>539331196When it's several times cheaper than buying same imported chink shit from local importer then yes, it's worth the 2-3 week wait. I've bought all my anime fig painting supplies with exception of paints themselves on ali. All the cutters, precise nail brushes, ereasers, sanding tools, microdrills, clips and sticks in bulk, compressor. All of that was either several times more expensive or the same shit but with mark up if bought locally. Airbrush wasn't from ali but still from chink company and was sent through half the world to me for cheap.>>539332076>The way it is implemented is that the 3€ is per category and shipment (so cables + LEDs are two taxable events while LEDs and normal lamps would get taxed once if it comes in one shipment).Doesn't work in practice. Just yesterday I wanted to order several customized trinkets from media europe doesn't produce + utility lamp for work, basically just 2 types of categories, yet price of whole package doubled, meaning it was added on top of every fucking trinket.>China can adapt to this faster than EU can produce an alternative, which is why we are fucked.I hope they will and EU will collapse under its own weight. They deserve it. Chinks were already bypassing this with their artisan level figs with shipping less than VAT itself, hopefully it'll spread on everything else.
>>539339000Sure, please point me to the non chinkshit version of pic rel.
>>539339117>p-please pay a 500% up price to a drop shipperlol, kys boot licker
>>539339117>temporary measure Are you retarded?
>>539339025Then don't buy your 30cent butplug and labubbus you nigger.
>>539338936Why? Everytime i criticize it irl i get told that eu is perfect and they are protecting our children from exploding chinese products. 95% of people that told me this were women btw.Blackpill is that majority of people are fucking goycattle here.
>>539339168Damn you uneducated nigger.Read Adam Smith Wealth of Nations.He explicitly explains how serfs were bound to the land and forbidden to work for themselves without approval from nobles or bishops. They were literally slaves.And yes they paid lower taxes. While also paying stable tax even if the crops failed, which meant they had to pay tax and starve themselves. Nowdays at least you do not have to pay if you do not earn crap (unless you have small company in Poland, but it is other problem).Also I bash socialists in my post and you come and talk how socialists are bad, which is my fucking point. Are you fucking retarded and cannot read?
>>539339302>sex toy jokeHow old are you? 60You deserve to be beaten to death on principle for bad boomer jokes
>buying directly from the source:/>buying the same thing from a domestic middleman/oligarch at 500-1000% markup:O
>>539339117I am not buying shit from you, eu dog. The only thing i fund to eu is tax from groceries. And if it was cheaper to buy food from China i would do that too.
>>539339339>read 18th century libtard propaganda>t-they were forbidden by thy loooordsYou fucking retard, what is enforcement and its limits. The tenth was the primary mean of taxation, that rest was the peasants.>b-but muah bad harvestA lord that fucked up and went too far was killed, removed, replaced.Go lick a political party boot, and smile while 50%+ are extorted from your production wage cage poolack
>>539339471>>read 18th century libtard propagandaFirst ever written scientific book about economy explaining why some workers are paid more and some less, first time describing suply and demand, how overregulation influences market and workers wages etc. is libtard propaganda. Just how fucking uneducated and stupid are you?>A lord that fucked up and went too far was killed, removed, replaced.Lol. You believe in fairy tales.So how is replacing your lords that put you on 55% taxation nowadays going on?
>>539336411Plus the sites don't actually do that. Even if you buy 5 different cables it's still going to be 3 euros per extra so it's 15 euros extra even though it should be 3, since sites like Ali cannot handle the whole bundling same type item.
>>539339571Oh trust the "science"jesus fucking christ you should seriously kill yourself
>>539336508It's more like having to pay 3.50€ for an item that cost previously 0.50€. Previously you would buy 20 0.50€ items to reach the 10€ free shipping on ali. If you do that now that's going to cost you 70€.
>>539336508The least retarded croat.
>>539330789You hate regulations and governmental overreach so you want China to win...?Are you hearing yourself, mate?
>>539339804Are you deaf, blind or what?
>>539339804>winoh team sport noomer bullshitTell me nigger where to get non over regulated over priced bullshit in the EU. Yes nowhere because its fucking irrational to produce anything in the fucking EU because of the EU
>>539332394>Local manufacturingMay I see these?
>>539330465Is there a word for feeling bad for someone because they got the same problems as you also think their situation is funny at the same time?
>>539339302>sex toy joke and a dead instagram influencer memethen tell me your microchip producent jew i will wait remember outsorced dutch production doesnt count
>>539340016schadenfreude
>>539330465Probably against all that temu crap.
>>539340191tell me marxist libatrd retard, where to get screws produced in the EU. Yes literally nowhere because it is fucking irrational to produce those in the EU
>>539340191>temu crap A product without eu middleman.
man they really optimized pumping out shit from chinai member in 08 or 09 i bought some shit on proto aliexpress and it took 3 months to arrivei guess they're doing so much volume now they can afford to send a cargo ship every week for absolute random crap
>>539332731The point is that the EU was failing to register orders from AliExpress, Temu, and the rest, so they often ended up passing through without being properly taxed by the end of the fiscal year because the current model is completely inefficient. To fix this, they've simply made it so the user collects the taxes, and then the State will charge the user obviously at an excessively inflated standard price. In other words, these lazy bureaucratic rats are so useless that their only job is to COLLECT, and even then they don't know how to do it, so they pass the job of collecting taxes onto us.
>>539340191how odd this isint an exclusive matter to the china but generally outside of eubut you sure know where i can get sstuff in EU without the premium middleman?
>>539336411>>539337588It's more than that. I had 1 category. Picrelated>2 items of the same type>around 3€ package value>free shipping because it's merged with items of the same type from different shop, both shops from choice category>8€ in taxes, including new 3€ tariff>the other package with 3 items being inside of 6€ value with 6€ in taxesSo basically 14€ tax on 5 items worth 9€ combined with apparently VAT included.And that's after trimming order down to 1 category instead of 2, and half the initial items. These items aren't even made in Europe.>>539337297Reminder they also removed 150€ tariff exemption as well.>>539339117Resellers still cost more than this shitty tax.>temporaryThat's what they said about VAT increase here like 15 years ago.>>539340421Yeah, and western retards still believe some "unexplored markets and demographies". In a world where chinaman can send you anything for pennies from the other side of the world within 1-2 weeks. Where any pajeet can buy your digital shit without even stepping foot in your country. Everyone in this world either can't afford your shit or doesn't want it, anyone who wanted it already got it because it's instantly available. Game devs thought they'd tap on "new demography" and get some welfare cash by catering to faggots, turns out market isn't endless and they sacrificed their old, loyal playerbase in the process. Infinite growth retards need to be put against wall.Through technological advancement, competition and rat race people have become so productive we're scrapping bottom of the barrel. This old system doesn't work anymore. And on top of that young people can't even afford homes and thus don't have kids to at least give some illusion of new customers. This is basically death cult against life itself.>>539340579>To fix this, they've simply made it so the user collects the taxesNot even that. See >>539331713They still tax company like they used to.
>>539340579>They still tax company like they used to.That's the key "as they used to" because before they couldn't tax them properly because the amount of small products bought by individuals were too big, so they keep taxing them and then tax them though us to overcompensate for the things they couldn't properly tax.Is the most dangerous mix of retards and evilness.
>>539340345Huh, are you lost?>Kamax>Würth>Zerbst>LedererOut of my head. As a consumer, just hop onto schraubenking or normreich for special stuff. Screws aren't really an issue in Europe, unless you specifically want the black chink screws that turn everything they touch black as well.
So now tariffs are good?
>>539340980>>539340820
>>539340820What "one" category are you referring to? TARIC differentiates as low as smd resistors and smd capacitors. There's no "electronics".>Reminder they also removed 150€ tariff exemption as well.What 150€ tariff exemption? If you're above you pay regular duties as before.
>>539330465This is just like tariffs, it's an additional consumer tax. Also western quality of life standards would drop into the abyss if it lost access to cheap chingchong goods. Because that would increase the demand on the non chinese goods that are already priced higher even more. Those are the consequences of having a globalist economy, one player in the chain falls away and it all collapses completely.
>>539341465>What "one" category are you referring to?They were all the same type of trinket. Literally the same built, only differing in aesthetic design.>What 150€ tariff exemption?Up until recently any package under 150€ was exempted from tariff. You only paid VAT.VAT is shit you pay on everything, usually around 20%, and on top of that you have tariffs, often ranging from like 1% to 10% on specific categories, for example cars, food, textile products etc.
>>539332731that's the goal, there's a second tax coming in november along with item id tracking
>>539340996they all produce in china, import, withelable and put a 500%+ mark up price on the whitelabled crap. There are no "screw factories" in europe, because its simply irrational due to EU legilastations to produce ANYTHING in Europe. And of course its irrational to buy their marked up products, if the same product can be had non-whitelabeled for 5 times cheaper
>>539330465the EU simply protected its rent-seekers, like it always does.all the shit you can buy is produced in china anyway. but now the rent seeker can import 50,000 cables and only pay regular taxes, to then sell it at a 300% markup (without having contributed anything of value)whereas you would have to pay 3€ on a 20 cents cable, since you obviously don't want to buy enough of them to cross the 150€ threshold since you have no use for that many cables.this law was drafted exclusively to protect parasitic middlemen
>>539342111Can't wait for everything to get even more expensive.>>539341866Ah, i think we just wrote past each other.
>>539342241Now you're just pretending to be retarded or are as dumb to overestimate a screw. Every single name i listed produces in europe. Machines and tools are literally the thing Europe (still) does well and domestic.
>>539342463no, they don't. Only marketing and administration; unproductive paper pushing is in Europe. The production capabilities are all outside the EU
>>539331713I really fucking hate this>Heh, we called it something else, so now we can pretend it's no longer what you warned about. Didn't expect that, huh?!shit.And eventually there will come a point where it will blow up in their face.
>>539342545not even the assembling is in the EU, because it has been made absolutely irrational to produce and even assemble anything in the EU
the law has already been bypassed, temu has huge warehouses in Poland now
>>539342557Confucius said "to fix the country you have to fix the meaning of the words"So we cannot have a good running country and economy when taxes are called "contributions" "insurances" or any other bullshit (as they did it in Poland) or when "ministers" who should be servants for the nation(as minister means servant) are not servants, but run the shit as masters.
>>539342557It already blows up in their face. A look at the polling has their political clubs and shit in the relevant demographic groups under 20%, at times under 10%. Not to talk about trust ratings across all demographic groups under 20%.The "state" failed long ago. The only thing that keeps the virtual order is self regulation
>>539342644not exactly, the tax applies when the item leave the warehousechinks still import in bulk, without paying the taxes, and only if a sale happens they pay it, if it does not sell they return it to china or elsewhere
>>539342545>>539342611You could've just said you're retarded and fucked off. Get a job.
>>539343053Fixing anything will be pretty hard though because at this point, the establishment parties are intentionally going full scorched earth and causing as much damage as possible. They know they're on the way out and have simply decided that whoever comes after will find nothing but a smoking ruin.
>>539343104Bullshittemu is free to stock up whatever they want in Poland and sell it without this stupid 3 euros tax whenever they wantthe chinks are smarter than the german autists trying to ruin EU with all their strength
for me this is crazy and unwarrantedthe flat 3 per category is bullshitsmall parts can go from 1 to 4 PER its retardedfuck this trash
>>539343332At another point i'd like to investigate where that anti German bullshit comes from. Right now EU commission has more french OR italian members than german ones. We pay for all this crap and yet we're the evil ones. Who laments? Some fucking polish boomer wondering why his kids ignore him.
>>539343223That's why the mistakes after 1945 and 1990 cant be repeated. Anybody currently in the administration, publicly funded, no matter how small of a cog and of course those that have been in such a position over the past 80 years, need to be killed. No pragmatism, no mercy for free riders, mercenaries and true believers
>>539343606fuck you and your countrymany documentaries proved that you are the ones constantly shitting up the franco-german projects because you are jealous of their knowledge you are also bringing in millions of sandniggers with france, every fucking year, all the soulless companies are germans also
>>539343758Go back to France, fag frog. You and the Germans are equally dirty fucking socialist scum that actually deserves to be completely genocided
>>539343813>lives in public housingVienna is Balkan
>>539343758>many documentaries proved that you are the ones constantly shitting up the franco-german projects because you are jealous of their knowledgeLike what? Name some.
>>539343606Von der Leyen is still plastered all over media and acting as spokesperson. It's extremely easy to ruin trust and hard to build it. Poles are still often seen as car thieves in the west because that's what was happening in the 90s even though these days used cars are so cheap everyone who isn't homeless alcoholic has it, making stealing cars absolutely not worth it. I still remember how when I was kid you could hear about occasional car theft. After few years it wasn't profitable so it was reduced to car electronics theft because not every car had radio. Few years later car theft almost completely vanished and only car theft I heard about was supposed investigative journalism source claiming it's now highly professioanl trade where you basically steal ultra expensive cars on order.Germans will be seen as source of downfall of EU with Merkel's invitation for migrants, Schroeder's banking everything on russian gas in exchange for seat at Gazprom or whatever, and von der Leyen's covid circus corruptiona alongside humiliation ritual when it comes to USA and China.In truth both France and Germany are boomers of Europe, acting exactly the same as boomers in muttland, trying to screw everyone over by pooling up money from all states and directing them to countries they can extract most of these money from through their supermarket chains and tech orders. At least that was the plan until China started to beat you. And the most ironic thing is I can bet regular germans feel just as screwed by their gov and industry oligarchs, especially now with layoffs. It's basically francogerman elites screwing literally everyone else in EU, including their own citizens, over.
>>539343976No. I live in a private rental, in which I tricked the realtor hired by the land lord 10 years ago into signing an indefinite contract that prevents them to raise the rent as long as I live in it because I gave them the impression, I would move out after a year. By now paying 350€ under market price; looking at 30 years I pay less than the flat is worth. The land lord is making a 200K loss on me, with no ability to get me out
Russia is losing because you're not as smart as us.
>>539344127oh shill, you really cannot not identify yourself by your use of shill terminology
>>539339300Uninformed much?
>>539339232We are literally talking cents here poorfag. It's nothing and it's temporary.
>>539340820>That's what they said about...You are just misinformed. It's part of a bigger customs overhaul.
>>539339408I don't care whatever.
>>539344482>misinformedHey shill you really cannot not identify yourself by your use of shill terminology
>>539330465So tariffs are good now…
>>539344536Just read the law. It's part of a bigger overhaul of the customs system. Currently it's shitted up with thousands of mini deliveries. But anyways I know you have some kind of agenda so go fuck yourself.
>>539344375Another stupid German that believes what the TV tells him….
>>539330465Good, we don't need all the temu chinkshit and aliexpress e-waste that dies after a week of use
>>539344610shill, everything you say is discarded and not read. You identified yourself as a member of an enemy tribe; kys, the mistakes after 45 and 90 wont be repeated. No mercy for you or you next of kin
>>539330465The low value fee is meant to stop manufacturers and shippers from shipping items individually. There are a bunch of rules and regulations meant for people shipping bulk stuff to the UK like Temu and whatever. They started wrapping and shipping items individually to avoid these and the UK is doing this to stop that.
>>539344482Nope. Our politicians clearly stated that VAT increase from 22% to 23% is temporary to patch up budget hole. That was 15 years ago. In our law you can still see 22% base rate and added note of raising it to 23% instead of changing base rate to 23%. If you trust any politicians when it comes to taxes being temporary you are retard level max.
>>539344622no, this one is a hired third party astroturf shill; a propaganda contractor of some "NGO", that deserves nothing but extermination of his entire family
>>539344761Sounds like a Poland problem.
>>539344850Get lost shill. Your posts are not read. Get on a fucking chair, put your belt around your neck, fic it on the ceiling and jump
>>539344669You won't do shit though lmao. You're weak an impotent and waste you time arguing over a couple of cents.
>>539344938Again shill, your posts are not read, you identified yourself as a member of a enemy tribe that completely lost the narrative war and is now losing the political war. The next stage is you losing your life. There is nop Adenauer and there is no Kohl able to prevent your extermination
>>539344127I agree, especially with the last part. However, don't act like your boomers are particular better. I've seen them in silesia, warsaw and lodz. Same shit all over, which is actually one of my greater EU concerns anyway, as all of these retards will just vote as ever, getting morons like vdLeyen elected in the first place.>>539344375Oh, wait. You actually think this shit will go away in november and not sprinkled with some extra duties on top? You're way too naive for this board.>>539344716No, it's meant to discourage from ordering altogether, simple as.>>539344850Since when is wealth tax suspended in germany?
>>539344127>Poles are still often seen as car thieves in the westFor now, that has basically completely vanished, since we have worse things to worry about.If anything, the main thing Poland is currently known for in Germany are the constant demands for WW2 reparations. But I haven't heard any jokes about Poles stealing cars in a while.
>>539345355its a fucking shill, only shills use the term "humiliation"Its one of their favorites because some retarded auto-datapoisoned "focus group" said it was "effective"
>>539345089>Since when is wealth tax suspended in germany?Germany doesn't have a wealth tax. You aren't German.
>>539344761Kapuściński wrote report called "Emperror" about Hajle Sellasye in Ethiopia where he was talking with locals about his rule.And one local told him that they were carrying bunch of rocks on their back, and Emperror was putting additional rocks to their pile from time to time. Till he put the one that broke the back. The same is with all these taxes. They will tax us and tax us, and then something will break in society.
>>539344785it's blatantly obvious that they exist, too.you can go to the German news outlets, scroll down to the comment sections, and if it's an article about politics, you'll almost certainly see the same couple names spamming government propaganda in 8 hour shift rotations day in day out. and they've been doing this for a decade or more.the posting style is blatantly obvious.I doubt it's just some mentally ill NEET either because you can only comment if you have a subscription , and it's always some 8-10 accounts on rotation because they think that makes the spam less obvious.
>>539345479shill its time you go back to fakebook and astroturf some boomers
>>539345355Ironically enough they're still #1 transit destination for stolen cars from germany. Obviously the gang ethnicity changed heavily, but it's still the same spiel of cars getting stolen in Berlin and quickly driven over to PL.We really need more attention on Berlin. The whole absurdity of 30% of all car thefts in Germany happening in that one city is ridiculous.>>539345479>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verm%C3%B6gensteuer_(Deutschland)Are you even trying?
>>539345535Of course its not some "neets" (also a shill term). Its public funded propaganda loser contractors that advertised their services to some braindead central committees as abeing able to steer narratives on the darkweb. Which they of course cant because they non stop identify themselves as externals of enemy tribes
>>539330465Defending chinks selling subpar quality products on fucking temu, alibaba and amazon. Their postage shouldn't be subsidized by European tax payers.
>>539345690go back to fakebook shill, or spam a few more "Putin" memes
Can't even make a project now. Double the price for simple components that are 4x the price in eu suppliers. Thanks eu.
>>539330465>Single MarketSounds lovely. I'm sure that's economically sound.
>>539332184Yes it won't retard. That doesn't mean the chink merchant won't raise the prices to maximize profits. If you import 100k pcs dragondildos at once you pay your normal taxes and customs on that item plus 3euro. If you import 100k dragon dildos in seperate shipments you (or well your costumer) pays 100x 3e.The chinks have been sending lots of stuff from European warehouses already and they will simply continue doing so.
>>539344598I'd say no, also this tax hits chinkshit the most but it applies to anything outside the EU not just china
>>539330465>evil clothes with dangerous chemicals, This is a good thing don't tell me you actually want to live in a country where everything gives you cancer like the US
>>539345659the only good thing about the fail internet wide astriturfing is that they are so absolutely incompetent that I think their incompetence is one of the main factors why the "establishment" has lost the narrative war.They constantly auto-datapoison their analysis because of their own spam
>>539332412>which means nothing for the customer as price still stays.Start an import firm then, you can buy from china cheap, import to warehouse in EU and then sell at a lower price if the current operators aren't going to take advantage of the situation to lower prices.
>>539345906Fuck off shill. Go and kys or just take a bus to Ukriane and be in the ditch and die tonight
Lmao you just sold all your good engineers to China
>>539345089>However, don't act like your boomers are particular better.I never did. Our politicians are just as crooked and our generation that is in their 50s-60s got absolutely mindraped by USA and remnants of USSR. These people have such heavy complexes our two biggest parties are built on them. It saddens me deeply because I can't even talk with my own father as whenever topic of politics comes he starts acting like posessed nigger trusting every word from one TV propaganda channel, refusing any arguments. And then you have equally bad retards on the other side believing equally shitty propaganda on the other side. I will never forget this duopoly and this system for ruining even my family relations by brainwashing them for couple more votes. If I had power to do so, I'd slowly dip them in boiling fluids in public for their incompetence, treason, corruption and naivety.>>539345355>If anything, the main thing Poland is currently known for in Germany are the constant demands for WW2 reparations.I'd say rightfully so, but our government is too incompetent to deliver anything so it's just dead shit that serves internal purpose of rallying polarized boomers under their flag for elections.>But I haven't heard any jokes about Poles stealing cars in a while.Well, it took like over 20 years for it to die down even though this shit is non-existent for like maybe 10-15 years now. And that's with Merkel shitting up crime perception by importing niggers. Only proves I was right about ease of ruining reputation and difficulty of building it back.>>539345634Obviously. Where else would tey be shipped? To west where there is no demand for stolen cars? Obviously it will ship east. Just further that now there is no demand for stolen cars in Poland as well since old used shitbox can be bought for as little as 300-500€.>>539345823All clothes are made in the same sweatshops in asia. It's just tax, no additional inspection.
>>539345951>shillIt's business advice. If you unironically legitimately believe what OP believes then you have a massive free business opportunity in the arbitrage by simply warehousing within EU. Of course the Chinese will be doing that themselves in the real world but again you are free to do this very thing.
>>539344149nice socialist country you have
>>539346137shill, your posts are not read. You rellay cannot not identify yourself by your use of shill terminologyGo spam more "Putin" memes, or just get your ass in a bus and be in Ukraine tonight to die in a ditch
>>539346167Frog, get your ass back to FranceYou doxed yourslef like a retard
Don't really give a fuck about this.What I give a fuck about is the EU allowing jobs to get exported while importing cheap labor. Absolute traitors.
>>539346249>importing cheap laboryou are such a retard. They are not "cheap labor" you marxist propaganda brainwashed mongoloid. They are fake GDP cheat codes to expand debt, public spending and transactions to make it look on paper as if the EUSSR grows and is able to sell its ponzi bonds without them getting rated trash
>>539330465I like how it's about safety. It seems paying 3€ makes anything safe.
>>539330729how about you fuck off if you don't like our autism? Nigger who is forcing you to stay? I bet the low IQ inbred shithole you crawled out of is just dandy this time of year.
>>539344622>>539344761It's a temporary measure with a stricter, per item and not per category taxation regime to be implemented in 2028 with extensions to the the temporary measure if required.Dunno why everyone here is freaking out as everything they order from china here will be under "Electronic assembly"."Tinkerers" will just have to eat the cost of *checks notes* 1/10th-1/4th of a tank of 95 gasoline. Or just buy extra spares or from the local suppliers.Or pick a hobby you can afford.. like wanking while asphyxiated.
>>539346122>I'd say rightfully soI dunno, you got quite a lot of money already, and a ton of German clay, too.I'd say at some point you have to move on from the past. Constantly demanding more and more reparations even though everyone who did it is already dead, and so is everyone who experienced it, will just eventually lead to new wars.And wars are basically never in the interest of the common people. All it does for them is death and destruction, while the fat politicians at the top soak up the profits and power from it (with absolutely zero risk to themselves since they can always just safely move into exile if things go wrong, where they already piled up all the money they stole during the ongoing war)
>>539330465Business interest greasing palms. It won't apply to "high value" bulk wholesale orders of the exact same items. Everything will still be made in China, the middlemen are just trying to make a comeback.
>>539346122I said it before and i say it again; young poles are just absolute bro tier.Just a note on the last one: UK has textile sweatshops again. Great, isn't it?>>539346249Same coin though, we're getting poorer by the hands of the same actors.
>>539346468So they now as well outsoure the shilling to fucking poojeets. Show flag you retarded shill
>>539346540It really doesnt change that the imports need to be exterminated the same as those that imported them. They are free riders of a dying regime, and there cannot be pragmatism applied to them as well. No mercy
>>539346699He thinks you can manufacture shit in the EU. Lmao.
>>539346556not shillinglife adviceif you can't afford an extra 20 euro per week/month do something about it or kys
>>539346892we regular folk have 3 orders a day150 euro per item, no problem, lets do 300 order bro chink
>>539346876Don't give (you)s to the nigger. He's not even european.
>>539346892Shill, you posts are not read, you delegitimate yourself the moment you put on an meme flag
>>539347139Roach, there is only one type of bastards that speak out for imports of GDP paper cheating, imports. Get your ass back to wherever you got imported from or you most likely die in the 2030s in Europe together with your importers
>>539345717Kill yourself nigger faggot.
>>539347273yet you read themSchrodinger's funpost
>>539347418Shill, shouldn't you spam more "Putin" memes and joooooo spam?
>>539347439Shill, your posts are not read, you are filtered, and when you post reminded that you are not read. Go astroturf fakebook
>>539346468>It's a temporary measure with a stricter, per item and not per category taxation regime to be implemented in 2028Why is it advertised everywhere as per category now then? My guess is they are betting on people having memory of a goldfish.>with extensions to the the temporary measure if required.lollmao even>>539346509>I dunno, you got quite a lot of money alreadyI've already written how it works in different posts. EU pools money from every EU state and then grants them to countries Germany and France can siphon most of it from through supermarkets (which don't pay taxes because on their declarations they almost always run on near loss, like a true volunteer organizations they obviously are) and for tech they expect their industries get orders for. That's why solar was shilled so much and so much EU funds went into that until Germany started to lose to China when it came to solar tech and production. There was never any point in accepting eastern Europe into EU besides siphoning more money and getting cheap workers.>and a ton of German clay, too.Today's map of Poland is the most resembling of map of Poland since it was internationally recognized in 966 or so. Even remnants from bronze age Tollense Valleu battle in north-eastern Germany shows traces of slavic DNA. Anyone can take arbitrary point of time where their country was at it's peak and make claims to territory.>will just eventually lead to new warsTrue, but there is no solution to this. Wars always were, are and will be part of human history. You have to be naive to believe humans deny biology we share with other species. We didn't advance technologically so much and learn to fly because we denied laws of physics, we built planes by acknowledging natural laws and playing by them. The only way to "ensure" peace is to create balance with too high cost. Unironically nuclear warheads are the biggest contribution to peace.>>539346540>UK has textile sweatshops again.Pajeets run them?
>>539330465They're doing this because a lot of Poles were buying cheap goods from China and reselling them in Romania. Their whole business was warehousing for Chinese goods in Europe. Perhaps that's legitimate, but it undermines European manufacturing and weakens the bloc in the long run economically. This is a start, but only a start. More must be done.
>>539330465It’s fine. Germany has plenty of factories with which to build extremely cheap wiring, gears, ball bearings.Why I’ve heard Dresden has a massive civilian fabrication factory district, they even had civilians building entire computers in their rented apartments like the Z-3 the world’s first full analog computer. Why my good friend using their ingenuous master of their craftsmanship I’ve just managed to finished a Time Machine of my own! My first choice has been to go 100 years into the future and ask look into the current technology of our times! And things look… odd.Did something happen? What has happened to all the German industry? Has it gone somewhere or something? Why can’t they simply produce their own wiring that I used to build my grand invention? Does England,France, Germany not have their royal scientific societies where men gather to discuss the problems of their times? How do you know which branch of science is important and what is just psychology?
>>539330465>Who's going to buy 0.3 cables if they're 3.59 now?And thats exactly what is their objective: to increase manufacturing in Europe.One can manufacture in Bulgaria or Moldova, cheaply, and send it to Britain. Manufacturing in Bulgaria is only slightly more expensive than manufacturing in China, but EU wants you to set up manufacturing within Europe, within Bulgaria, to increase European manufacturing to beat China in future.
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>>539344127>And the most ironic thing is I can bet regular germans feel just as screwed by their gov and industry oligarchs, especially now with layoffs. It's basically francogerman elites screwing literally everyone else in EU, including their own citizens, over.thats the reason people vote afd now. they dont know what to do to solve this elites raping everyone.(afd wont solve this either) they would literally vote anything else. the average person is not supporting the people in power and i think the same is true for uk and usa also at this moment. half of the west is stuck with shitty governments and useless glow nigger boomers.
>>539330465My fellow autist this is /pol/ no one is gonna understand what the fuck you're talking aboutAlso I have stores locally that sell 90% of this
>>539330729>anon mentions hobby electronics getting assraped sideways by the EU>Mehmet immediately thinks of anal sexI hate to side with a g*rman but hang yourself roach
>>539345634>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verm%C3%B6gensteuer_(Deutschland)Yup thank for confirming what I said. Germany doesn't have a wealth tax and you are definitely not German.
>>539331877SAP is a fucking piece of shit
>>539344716>shipping items individuallygod you retards when it comes to shilling the EU are more retarded than those who are mocking you overseas NO ONE SENDS BY POSTAL SERVICES A SINGLE THING IN TAYOR SWIFT PRIVATE JET STYLEall is send by bulk in shipping container when comming overseasdumbfucks
>>539348363Yeah, it's the same everywhere. I think our system just reached a point where it's not sustainable and it consumes itself. And because of globalization it affects whole west, if not most of the world. $ being world's reserve currency allows USA to print infinite money and offload inflation onto rest of the world while maintainig relative position. Boomers believing infinite and banking operating on debts resulted in squeezing people dry, selling futures of younger generations. This results in abysmal birthrates, and no system can oeprate without workers. And no civilization can operate without people with sufficient IQ. If you import pajeets and niggers, you'll get pajeet and nigger tier "civilization". System is running on fumes and our social contract with kaiserite retrement welfare was always pyramid scheme, escept back then we had fertility rates able to support it.
>>539349699>>539348363>they dont know what to do to solve thisI'm afraid it'll require total collapse or war. States aren't as strong as they seem, goatfuckers in France years ago have shown you can paralyze whole country quite easily by synchronizing terrorist attacks as there is only so much police. It doesn't take rocket scientist to notice that since during every football match or whatever event city has to borrow police from neighboring cities. Drone warfare in Ukraine and Iran has shown you can do precise strikes with common consumer grade toys, especially in countries that haven't developed any measures against it yet. With enough preparation you could basically decimate any european government right now. Small arms could always be made in small workshops. With today's CNC machines it'd take one workshop turning rogue to produce dozens or hundreds of cheap firearms very quickly. Knowledge and even schematics are available, same with most simple ammunition. People just can't be bothered because their quality of life hasn't dropped enough yet. Too few rapes, too little homelessness, too few murders. You either need people desperate for it to burst, or that one spark to lead.Problem with sparks is again, people having too much to lose and the fact that it's success that determines whether spark will be new Qadaffi or a mere terrorist. But as people have fewer children, and in case of men they get raped by divorces, depreiving them of families, you'll get more and more people having nothing to lose. It's either that or enough time will pass for racial shift to complete, all those 3rd world conflicts will come here, the state won't have enough manpower to maintain order so it will just turn into racial/ethnic civil war with each group caring only about their own.
>>539346379>how about you fuck off if you don't like our autism?Your ass is putting the cart before the horse. He doesn't like our autism so he's not fucking off but instead invading to hollow out our livelihoods from the inside out to starve us to death. If he liked our autism he might would appreciate it from afar instead of aggressively invading. These talking animals are invading to kill.
>>539346249>cheap labouractually its >Cheap ne debtorsfixed that for you
>>539330465I live on the border with northern ireland and just pay for a postbox up there for my deliveries , UK has no such charges
>>539346509>I'd say at some point you have to move on from the past.well here is a thingPoland cannot have a choice on that since first of all regarding of reparations They never signed a treaty ending the conflictand were sold to USSR by its allies anywaySo legally they can still demand it as hostility settlement was never signed and are liable since they didnt do the czech moment where they refused it for sake of help from ussr
>>539331877>SAP: Shit And Piss
>>539344127>only car theft I heard about was supposed investigative journalism source claiming it's now highly professioanl trade where you basically steal ultra expensive cars on order.Yeah they export to shitholes in africa where no one is gonna go after anyone
>>539349699>. And no civilization can operate without people with sufficient IQ. If you import pajeets and niggers, you'll get pajeet and nigger tier "civilization".and thats why they try to force the non natives into ussr style elevations of power or wealth to make racemixing atractive to native women as they dream of the same eurasian caucasoid negro as kalergi wanted because what?they are all the same traitors of jewish origins or working for jewish interests desiring the prefect slave race
