LET THAT TRULY SINK IN
>>539332110just chinese sourced sources
>>539332110He's banning OpenAI!!! Elon getting his competition cut down
Land of the free
>>539332110Big, if true.
>>539332110Getting real tired of le>Russia bad, China badNarrative
>>539332149He's banning anything that isn't Jewish owned and operated, only the chosen people get to be quadrillionares, only the chosen people get to control you, only the chosen people gets to choose.You will buy your third tier kosher models or you will starve to fucking death, you will course Jewish business and that's final
it is pretty funny how China keeps kicking the Silicon Valley jews right in the collective dick. their whole trillion-dollar scam is forcing the whole world into paying for AI subscriptions for everything, and China just keeps releasing the AI shit >for free
>>539332110>banning a matrixAt this point im convinced theres only like 1000 people on earth that know how AI works.
>>539332110I don't think you can ban open-source.>what's a fork?
>>539332110His future reincarnation will be as a severely genetically damaged jeet with like 4.5 arms
>>539332110Imagine if all the cattle on a factory farm suddenly became sentient.
>>539332110Dipshit thinks the cat will go back in the bag. Tons of open source models out there, all accessible on the internet.
He needs to ban all Chink apps too, especially manipulative gacha games.
>>539332110That seems impossible to practically do and would make a lot of other tech companies angry.
>>539332110So guess US AI companies can't compete that they need protection lol. All this will do is prove how US AI is bloated in valuations.
>>539332301Don't copy that floppy.
>>539332301You know he's retarded, right?
>>539332243This could unironically tank whole USA if people would wake up on AI scam. Fuck, I didn't want to learn chinese, it's such dogshit language with dogshit people.
>>539332128Those are the best ones>>539332149lol
>>539332110weak cunts.
>>539332110I'm not sure that's legal. It's kind of hilarious, though -- billionaire telling the people that free stuff is illegal and that you must instead purchase the same thing from corporations instead. You can actually just have an LLM write you an LLM which you can run locally on your own hardware, by the way. The important thing is the weights -- the result of all those GPUs running in all those data centers. Weights can certainly be tuned, but they can't themselves be malicious. It's the frontend code which can be malicious. You don't have to use it.
>Citing several sources close to the administration, the Axios report saysAt this stage you can just ignore this sort of reporting entirely. It's just full of anti Trump administration slop.
>>539332417It was legal to force TikTok to sell
>>539332429Axios is a Trump admin mouthpiece and reports what he wants
>>539332250
>>539332110AMERICANS ARE BANNING MATH AGAIN! MATH ILLEGAL IN DUMBFUCKISTAN!
>>539332110>rich man bans free stuff
>>539332243To be fair, we still need domestic AI. China's entire strategy is to aggressively subsidize industries, essentially funding below market prices, and once their companies have substantial market share, they raise the prices. It's essentialy what Amazon did: operate in the red for long enough to dominate the market and only then raise prices. But there's nothing wrong with taking china's free shit.
>>539332486except they're entire doctrine is that there are communists only once they finish being capitalist so like your entire thing doesn't stand a reason they are actually allowing themselves to be capitalists in order to get to Communism look it up that's the actual party line
>>539332110and then there are people who think capitalism and communism are not completely the same shit
>>539332453AHAHAHHAHAHAH.
>>539332464>>539332467Anyone outside the US should look at this and them banning foreigners from using US AI to focus on their own AI using open weight models
>>539332558You are dumb man, Axios gets first scoops from Trump admin because they directly send information to Axios via fake 'leaks'. It's even more pro-administration than CBS and that's run by MAGA people nowadays
>>539332568EU is too retarded to actually do anything like banning Microsoft.
>>539332639EU is gradually getting off Microsoft, but its a slow process, like everything in Europe apparently https://itsfoss.com/news/france-ditches-microsoft-teams-and-zoom/
>>539332110Based!!Anti-capitalist/communist scum need to be hanged
>>539332532It's a little naive to think of China in ideological terms. The USSR, which had a similar stance towards the eventual transfer of power to the people, went 80 years without ever actually transitioning to communism. The way it turns out, communism means that the people in power have to actually give up that power in order to actually do communism. My point is that there's no reason to treat China as anything other than what it already is. Treating it as what it says it one day will be is pointless.
this 'race' is just a money grift. no one thinks theyre in a race, only stupid americans who have to be convinced their tax dollars need to be 'invested' in these kike companies
>>539332667>they banned it in 3 places (three)>EU has 400 million citizensIt's nothing.
FOSS AI is a pretty rad concept actually. Any software is ok if it's FOSS, even AI.
>>539332128funny how chinese and russian sources don't even have to lie, they just need to talk about western "media" censor
>>539332696https://www.sknexus.org/p/europe-ditching-microsoftIt's two of the largest countries in Europe (Germany, France, Denmark) plus a smaller one, so 158 million people roughly, getting near half of the EU off Microsoft. Pretty crap, but it's not nothing.
>>539332110Boomers are so fucking stupid lmao. They probably think this could happen.
>>539332291Gatcha games is Japs kiking the Japs. Industrial gambling is evil.
>>539332110oh say can you see oh say can you seeorange faggot is once again a faggot.
>>539332715I agree, but China isn't doing this out of the goodness of its heart. China's ideal scenario is this:>keep releasing free weights until American AI companies go bankrupt and die>stop releasing free weights and start making everyone pay for them now that you've cornered the market
He's saying cloud niggers who front you the 1.4tb of ram required to run the thing can get in trouble.
>>539332249You can if you're quick, but it is easy to distribute. And depending on the license yeah, fork and re-release in some other country, rename it slightly just add a country name or something
>>539332336It's probably due to lobbying. Trump has no idea how AI works.I think I need to start working some repos, I want to run those things locally
Thank god, more for me
>>539332889So will he ban Linux too to protect Microsoft?
>>539332110I have to assume that the new china model names the jew?
>>539332110Chinese AI is completely destroying America's and they are barely even investing in it, which is what makes it hurt the most.
>>539332871So basically the identical business model US tech companies use, but are now upset is being used against them. Cry me a river
>>539332467
>>539332750I'll believe it wgen I see it. They are still hosted on Azure.
>>539332110Only chinese ones, other AI open source models are fair game.
>>539332921I'm buying a 24GB 3090. Will it be enough for local coding?
>>539333098https://runthisllm.com/ 24GB means you can run pretty much anything intended for local machines (35b parameters and lower). The problem is these local models got absolutely shit on by the Fable/Sol/K3 generation of cloud models. Qwen 3.6 is still good if you're absolutely determined to go local, but the frontier cloud models are on another level.
gimi!
>>539332110Trump talks out of his assnothing ever comes of itit's just more e-drama fuel
>>539332110>open source>bankek
>>539333241Trump's retarded AI regime has already put the US AI industry on the back foot compared to ChinaNobody smart wants to work in the Trump admin. His entire AI team is a bunch of retarded military boomers and drunks making it up as they go along.Anthropic had to take their most advanced model down AFTER they released it for like a month because Pete Kegsbreath and his retarded jeet technology secretary had a feud with the CEOThis stuff has a real impact on a fast-moving industry like AI. New models come out monthly.
>>539333324Taking away Fable because it can... gasp... fix bugs in production code is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The US used to be the undisputed leaders of world technology. What the fuck happened?>>539333253Banning Chinese models would make them unavailable on Hugging Face which is US hosted and where everyone gets their open weight models from. Yeah you could host it elsewhere, but there is nowhere else right now
>>539333194Who the fuck needs "fronteer" anything what that shit is proprietary?
>>539333421>What the fuck happened?Unironically jews. They cheaped out and imported incompetent pajeets or fellow white men into every facet of tech and turned it into a second rate enterprise.
>>539333421>but there is nowhere else right now>hosting shit in 2026 is hard
>>539333465Models like Fable are vastly smarter than local models. Like you can give it a vague description of the feature you want on a large established codebase and it can come up with a workable plan in 10 minutes. Local models like Qwen will start hallucinating and making mistakes on hard problems. They're super good if you want to total privacy and independence from cloud inference providers, but you have to accept they're simply much dumber.On parameter count alone, cloud models are 2-4 trillion parameters, versus 35 billion max locally (122bn if you have 128GB of RAM and quantize heavily). You're never going to get the same quality of work or intelligence level. The server models are simply much bigger and thus much smarter.
>>539332110Fat homosexual faggots can't compete with Kimi? Almost decade after he retired.
>>539333509We're talking about a single download of the weights at 1-1.5TB. Hosting that kind of size is not something most people are capable of or willing to do.
>>539333540>Models like Fable are vastly smarter than local models.Unbiased source that doesn't come from Antropic?>our AI is like a nuclear bombe
>>539333561Negro what?You set up a single PC computer with a 8TB HDD and plug it online. The fuck?
>>539332773The most popular mainstream gacha games are Chinese developed at the moment. Who knows what kind of data they're harvesting from people's phones and PCs. It's a serious security risk because STEM nerds are addicted to 2D gacha tits like crack and many of them work for the government as contractors.
>>539332110you are German? you are so retarded shit eater. TRUMP SHALL AND MUST BAN FREE AI!! BUT ONLY USA! KASPISCHE, DU DÄMLICHES KAFFEEKAKE?
>>539333578Benchmarks all show K3/Sol/Fable near equal best in the world right now, vastly better than local>>539333607It's about the bandwidth not storage. If you try hosting that on your home connection, you're going to get shut down real quick by your ISP. Only 100 transfers is 150TB of data transferred.
>if I win it's because I'm the best >If you win it's because you cheated Why are WASPs & Jews so incapable of self awareness?
>>539332159yes, more free than your country
>>539332110>pic related quintessential
>>539332243implying china wont do the same the exact momennt they got the market locked in
The West can not compete with free open AI and the only way the West can attempt to hold on is to ban. The same is true with Chinese electric vehicles. The West will get curb stomped if it had to compete head to head with China on AI when the Western tech companies want to charge a fortune for over hyped barely improved AI models when China can just release a model that is 90% as good for free that can be run locally if you have the hardware or anywhere else that you can install and run it
>>539332110How is he gonna enforce it though, banning sales I get but how do you stop people from giving free stuff on the internet ?
>>539332339>chinese, it's such dogshit languageKek at this Zmierzewlazislav Prgniewamadininietsky
Can someone explain to me like I’m a retard? Didn’t this already happen like last year? What is this AI loop shit? The only people I know who use AI are more retarded than me.
>>539334287brother... the US is a third world shithole
>>539333098Pal, I have a t460s. It's ~10 years old and it's enough to run a coding llm.But I'm not worried because picrel
>>539332110>>539335011The whole business model / stock market slurping scam of AI companies is that they need 40% of world GDP to buil AI/GAI/ LLMs/Clippy++. If the Chinese roll in an give something more or less as good for free or at 20x lower cost the entire fiction implodes overnight. There are unironically trillions at stake here and yes, Trump will go for a ban.
>>539335042>how do you stop people from giving free stuff on the internetBlocked IPs, domain seizures, etc. This will only hurt normies. The techsavy will know where to find and download.
>>539332110AI models are published materials and cannot be banned by Congress due to the first amendment. there is no difference between a published LLM model and a copy of Penthouse magazine. live free or pay jews.
>>539335419Burger supreme court will make it legal and they will clap.
>>539335042make possession and use of it a crime. make the use of it a disqualification from federal money. this "if you do something you can't get federal money" clause is used very often to keep people in line.
>>539335538You know how easy to evade this is?See fucking flock cameras.
>>539335419The constitution is just a piece of paper. Not even the supreme court will allow it to get in the way of the kikes' plans.
>>539332417>Weights can certainly be tuned, but they can't themselves be maliciousThey can of course.
>>539332110What about muh freedumb?
>>539335366Well the techsavy will be the only ones downloading it anyway and all they need is VPN which they already have.>>539335538They can do that theoretically but in practice it will be impossible to enforce without massive infringements of civil liberties.Just like downloading music, watching free movies and piracy in general is illegal but everybody does it.
spacex already trading below ipo open
>>539333540How much does standalone AI server with 1 TB of VRAM cost?
>>539335642Trump-run US hates free markets and fair competition and likes centrally-planned protectionism, which is much ironically more like communist governments of the 20th century
>>539335678Lower your voice!
>>539335538Remember the hurricane victims in south carolina who had to sign a pledge to israel before the US would give them disaster relief?Not a video of them complaining about signing but everything politicians did during that hurricane was hilarious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg1XR1jlUgE
>>539332110Every day he does something more goddamn stupid than the last.
>>539335684A standalone AI server configured with approximately 1 Terabyte (TB) of Video RAM (VRAM) costs between $350,000 and $750,000, depending on whether you choose previous-generation hardware or the newest architecture. Because individual AI graphics cards cap out well below 1 TB, achieving this memory capacity requires a dense, unified multi-GPU enterprise server platform.
>>539335684You'd need to buy a 8x NVIDIA HGX B300 rack for 2.3TB VRAM, because you need extra RAM to handle the context window. Cost is between $300k and $600k USD, but it gets you off cloud providers forever.Alternatively buy the Apple Mac Studio M5 Max when it comes out, it has 1.5TB of unified RAM. Much slower, but it'll be about $20k.
>>539335329>memeflag
>>539332110he is gonna put 10% tariffs on downloading open source from github
>>539335773Expensive but not completely unattainable.I wonder if you could fund that through donations.
>>539335911I use CodeBerg btw ;)
>>539332110Rmao, imagine your own governments actions being so dog shit and threatening to your continuity of business that you'd rather trust the Chinese, and now they want to ban the Chinese.
>>539332110This post gave me TDS
>>539332339That's the best thing, with NUMBA 1 Chinese AI, you can just translate your pirogi speak into chink speak.
>>539335800Can PC architecture and AI software use RAM (not VRAM) as unified AI RAM? (yeah I know bandwidth would be 20 times slower).
>>539335612They legitimately cannot and you are retarded for thinking am array of floats or even bits is malicious by itself.
>>539336311They define AI answers.
Has anyone used KIMI to create slop?... Is it any good?
>>539332110He's more and more Jewish by the hour. How does MAGA like this super jew?
>>539332159its effectivly just an economic exploitation zone with 1% ultra rich jews at the top that call the shots for the 99% of indebted goy cattle slave labour.
>>539332871Anon, at best that would limit future releases. Also their strategy is to use their free AI deployments to encourage development in other nations so they can become wealthier customers for Chinese goods- also soft power purposes
>"I can't create, generate, or produce images. I don't have image generation capabilities — I can only search for existing images on the web"Sneed.
>>539333098Yes, that card can run excellent local LLMs easily. Now you have to choose which model to run- you can choose the Chinese model, which may steal the code you write and send it to China, or one of the Western models- which are much more likely to offer you ordinary commonsense copyright protections. How much do you really trust the Chinese? Where does the value of the code you write actually go if they can just steal it before you've even finished writing it? You won't be the one who benefits from the work- they will be.
>>539332110 based.
>>539332486If China open source their AI we can just take that software, improve on it and share it amongst themselves.Your argument is essentially that we must let jews skull fuck us with AI subscriptions in case China may want to do that after they have a monopoly on the market.
>>539332230i follow his dumpster fire of a truth social account and he's effectivly shilling everything jewish and israel non-stop for a while now. You read that shit and it looms that he has effectivly decided with whom he stands (pro tip: it's not the US).
>>539336414>He's more and more Jewish by the hour.Actually, he's always being a Shabbos puppet. It's simply a cope to believe that it was some recent transformation, used by ex-miggers trying quell their PTSD.
>>539336462You know I can block outgoing traffic on my network, right?
>>539333098You can. Give deepseek a try, you can run it on huge parameters with single bit interpolation, that I instead of using floats you can use 1 and 0. Deepseek V4 was trained on int, not float, making it more memory efficient.
>>539332110Just because Europeans are happy letting the Chinese wreck your economy, that doesn't mean the US should too.
>>539333421>What the fuck happened?Rent seeking and hand rubbing. Amazing how things went to shut in the US after a decade of Jews replacing whites in college education spots
>>539333607Oh no anon, you need that space in ram or ideally GPU memory. That's an entire server rack and sometimes multiple
>>539336606Why exactly? HDD Software raid is good enough.
>>539332110Been a while since I could whip this image out
>>539335366They'll have to build the great firewall of America to block you accessing Chinese APIs or APIs hosted in third countries.
>>539336364Their answers depend on the questions being asked. Guardrails are not defined in the weights.
>>539332110Seems like the right move to me. They keep their market and the US keep their. Problem solve and we cut the drama bullshit.
>>539332248Yeah, we're more waiting to see how all this blows up. Never defined intelligence to create a comparative frame, good fucking luck, retards
>>539332110Land of the free lmao
>>539336462>Chinese model, which may steal the code you write and send it to China, or one of the Western models- which are much more likely to offer you ordinary commonsense copyright protections.Of you've ever read any of the licencing agreements you'd know it is the American stack that commonly used your queries and uploaded documents for training data. Chinese models have an opt in to use your information for training purposes.If you self host they cannot get anything unless you explicitly send it to them in an email and ask them to use it- and guess what, companies are self hosting Chinese AI. This is the number 1 reason for companies using Chinese AI- they do not want to train potential competition, all American companies, be they Google, Anthropic, OpenAI are explicitly entitled to use your information for training purposes, read the EULA.
>>539332110Joos, stuff like this always has something to do with jews, they don't control it so they want to ban it before it starts spilling the beans on jewish behavior and the holocaust lie.
>>539336410Just smut.I'm a cheapskate with a bad computer so I never got into pr00mpting.Can confirm that Kimi *fucks*.
>>539332110He should go ahead. I'm sure this won't massively backfire in a spectacular way. It also speaks volumes about US AI who are obviously superior in every way, but let's not test that out in muh free market. It's the same with US cars, they are superior in their own little artificial bubble because reasons. But let's not let the consumer decide what he's going to spend his money on, the US government knows best. Free market hooray! Slap your obscene 110-145% tariffs on Chinese cars, bit let them compete with US cars, let's see what the American consumers will decide. In before: Muh car software problems and security concerns. That goes double for US car companies, they are the real spy masters. Tesla is a freaking data collection company with cars as a side hustle/delivery system, don't give me that spiel.
>>539336890You can't argue with miggers.
>>539336679Oh no, the entire parameter set must be on fast memory to allow the weights to be updated and propagated. You can load in portions at a time but that is useless for any real use as reading from disk, even NVME is extremely slow. What is happening with your GPU is that it loads the entire parameter set into memory and then performs calculations through the network of parameters layer by layer. You can run quite a few billion parameters on your graphics card but, you will not be able to run the flagship models that are now in their trillions of parameters which would require somewhere around 500gb of RAM or VRAM to host. As I was saying you can change the quantisation level, originally they used floats which takes up more memory on your graphics cards than INTs, you can even use single bit now which allows larger parameter set now where it acts like a Boolean of 1 or 0 for each position on the parameters.
>>539336992I was just hoping I could get through to him, you know.
>>539336462Just air gap local AI server, dummy.
>>539335803You argued against his flag, but not his numbers. Curious.
>>539333045Exactly.
>>539337097What about just RAM? Can it be virtualized for AI GPU as extension of VRAM?>>539336293
>>539334635China is run by a bunch of engineers and actual communists, they aren't chasing forever profits, just general power and larping as saviors of humanity.
>>539333253Yeah, if you look at it a certain way, it's almost a caricature of a villain. >we are hereby banning ALL free things>if you get anything, you MUST pay for it>here is the list of corporations you may buy it fromIn a way, that's kind of the final form of corporatocracy, right? Literally everything becomes a product only accessible through purchase. In a way, that's already what we have. It just adds a kind of comical authoritarian spin to it.
>>539337292Yes, you can use both the VRAM and the RAM on your computer collectively as shared memory, if I recall it's usually called pooled memory in options, it's not true unified memory, so the problem with it is that your System Ram is generally much slower than VRAM and it will need to operate between them. Expect slower token output, but you can use larger models.
>>539337362Mandatory subscription to Open AI for every smartphone (to check their contents for child pornography and anti semitic content).
>>539332110Because he has heavily invested in other AI companies, so he’s using his power to ban the competition.
>>539337483But I thought they were the champions of capitalism.
>>539336679Oh btw, o just went to check what you are planning to use it for, coding right?I really need to investigate creating a "harness" for my own projects. A harness controls what your LLM does by correcting errors in terms of its agentic work, it's something I really suggest you look into when you start using it as the biggest problem most guys find is that the LLM makes fucked up calls with empty parameters in loops, thereby wasting tokens and time. I would also state that unit tests are the best way to control the quality and output of your agentic work. High quality unit test= higher quality results, it's error feedback.
>>539332110>open source AIaka viruses you install that steal your data and hand it over to companies. fuck china
>>539337483It's not even about jaut money it's about control first.Making Americans acess only several jewficated AI means Jews can control all information flow, no "free Palestine" stuff. That is primart goal now. Ban Free Palestine from American information space.
>>539337603You control the server dumbass, if you're sending packets to China without knowing you probably got hacked because you're retarded.
>>539332110Eventually it won't fucking matter as you will be able to make your own.
>>539337603It's your server, you can run it air gaped for extra security.
>>539337537I'm not sure Trump even knows what capitalism is. I don't think he could define it. In his defense, he's arguably never actually experienced it. The dude was born filthy rich and after inheriting his dad's real estate empire basically just spent his life paying people to build things and then trying to wriggle out of paying them kek. If he defined capitalism honestly, he might say something like, "I get everything I want because fuck you." Not totally inaccurate.
>>539337640It's definitely both, but the orange tranny's primary goal is to serve his lobbyist owners. The jewish AI oligarchs want their Chinese superiors to be banned in the west since they can't compete so they gave ZOGnald another couple million to pass some blatantly unconstitutional executive order to make it unfeasible to host these models without getting raped.
>>539333789Why you Germans think you're better?Muh last stand in WWII?
>>539332110Code is free speech. He can't do shit. How's he gonna stop me from downloading it?
>>539336462>which may steal the code you write and send it to ChinaThis is absolute tech illiterate retardation. This is not a thing. If you don't trust China, you can use western hosting for open weight models. Chinese open weight models do not autonomously 'send your code to China' whatever the fuck that means.
>>539337894Same way you can't download cp.
>>539337668You sound like a socialist crying. Improve your delivery, anon.
>>539337919Uh huh, that's why people do every day.
>>539337945And then get arrested
>>539337645how retarded woudl you have to be to install anything chinese made on your computer. all they do is steal and then bloatware low quality software and then fry your pc with it or steal all your phone data and use that in AI bot farms they use to scam elderly people.whole point china does is try and collapse world economy so they can try and rule the world with a dysotpian slopstate. thats why they are known as the jews of the east by asians
>>539337974I refuse to believe someone can be this fucking dumb unironcally
>>539332110I would still use it
>>539332671Marx claimed that ru emp can't made communism because of greedy elites. That's all. Btw, did you know? Bolsheviks were send by Germany to capture russiaThey wasn't even living there
>>539338019let me guess youre chinese immigrant shitting up and ruining australia. only a low iq chink shill would support china. the jews of the east are a parasite to the planet, polluting the world and poisoning it with destruction of nature, pollution, low quality trash, and scams.
>>539337974>how retarded woudl you have to be to side with anything American against your neighbour. all they do is steal and then bloatware low quality leftards and then fry your country with it and steal all your phone data and use that with jewish pedophiles and blackmail operations they use to control powerful people.>whole point USA does is try and collapse white countries so they can try and rule the world with a dysotpian slopstate. thats why they are actually the jews of this world and recognised as so by everybodyt. Polish fagtard who gets raped by Americans and shitskins willingly hoping it makes Russians sadit's worth it, says the Pole fagtard
>>539338312You should focus more on the actual jews raping your country and preparing to throw you into a war you can't win, just like what is happening to your now favourite neighbours in the East, the Ukratards.
>>539337668capitalism is a socialist term. Trump is not a socialist, so of course he can't define it.
>>539338339russia is the one supporting mass immigration. in fact our border guards just the other day coimpeltely smashed a russian and afghani attack on the border, and they called us neo nazi racists in response. putin also made it illegal in russia to protest against immigration, and signed mass immigration bills with african countries even posting walkthroughs to help africans settle into moscow while russians get killed on the front line. you arent making a strong argument in favour of the global south, which you seem to worship as gods.>>539338368>oy vey goy dont resist you already lostand thats why they call you the jews of the east. meanwhile the chinese were just defeated by filipinos in rafts, and a chinese coast guard ship of about 20 chinese wearing safety vests and medical masks were KO'd and got smashed. it looked pretty humilating, so i understand why you are angry for people not blindly supporting foreign countries like china.
free market capitalism = only protecting kike overlords
who the fuck is saying these models are good, they aren't even good at writing smut for me in sillytavern, actually they all make the same slop content, even the western ones
>>539332110Chinese are spies. And people are retarded. This would end up in them sharing all kinds of private info.
>>539337668capitalism is just free exchange of goods and services. you are against it because you believe you will be part of ideological clique that cointrols human societies and commands them to behave certain ways based on predefined "plans" set by a commitee and chairman.
>>539336468>If China open source their AI we can just take that software, improve on it and share it amongst themselves.The US wants to build an AI feudalism where data centers will be mills and you'll have to pay a tax to the feudal lord for using AI. Building your own mills without the feudal lord's approval is a crime and doesn't fit into the business model.
>>539334635They are literally open source nigga.I can buy my own GPUs, load them up with GLM 5.2, Deepseek V4, Kimi 3, and sell access to others.Kosher kike models like ChatGPT and Claude are locked up.
I will sell everything and move to China. You have arabs to replace me. Ciao
>>539338537>capitalism is just free exchange of goods and servicesHunter-gatherers were therefore the first capitalists, as they exchanged berry-picking and hunting services with each other.
>>539338528selling your data to china is safer in the west. a chinese ice is not gonna come to you and deport you for wrongthink
>>539338603considering they werent poisoned by ideologies it sounds about correct. you dont get transactions in communist system, as everything was completely artificial and just bailed out by state routinely. its why socialist "enterprise" always needs infinite state money to survive, because it is of poor quality and inefficient. i mean just look at chinese car market for example, it exists entirely due to govt financing as chinese vehicles are poor quality, useless, and designed only to lead to global poverty and reduce peoples ability to travel freely. they even have sensors that alert when you are over certain predefined speed limits for example. this level of control is the end of humanity, which is something china wants as their mentality is one of subservience and not independence.
>>539332110This whole AI bubble is getting more retarded by the day. All that just to keep Scam (((Altman)))'s grift going for a tiny bit longer.
>>539338734ai only exists to support the global south, as africans are genetically and biologically inferior to White people and asians are incapable of independent thought. thats why AI is so popular in countries like china, india, africa, etc. the chinese want a muttified, brainless, insect society that exists without brain matter and only exports AI data.
>>539335803>poisoned goyslave
>>539337097Are you fucking retarded? We were talking about giving people the option to download the file to their own computer.
>>539338494Whatever little immigration Russia sent your way is a tiny tiny % o the immigration Poland recieves every year and, worse of all, legally.And Russia only did that in order to destroy your hypocrasy of we want more immigrants, which indeed might save your people if you grow a pair and stop being cucks.You know that and are still making excuses like a little bitch.Poland has more africans than all of Russia and Ukraine and Belarussia combined. You keep making excuses. I am not a Chink, you are the Chinkoid aligned faggot by destroying Europe from within and being proud with it. It's always funny, or would if it was not so sad, to see a Pole afraid of and worried about China while being raped to death by Americans and jews.
>>539338715How is any of that different from the current American model?
>>539338834the biggest imigration boon we have are from ukrainians and belarusians. russia on the other hand supports mass african immigration and from india, which is why putin signed exclusive open borders migration pacts with various african countries and india (e.g., putin even has more aggressive "h1b" style immigration with india than usa does, and putin also signed into law it is ILLEGAL to protest immigrants = auto prison sentence and deployment to the frontline where you get killed in the war). also the fact you have resorted to lies already shows you ran out of things to even say, and it also proves you are a shill and not a human, as a human being can have an converasation and think about things differently, whereas you only exist to say political slogans and ideological orthodoxy without any kind of depth to it, so you will lie in order to pursue it as you see this as a kind of religious priority for you. really not sending their best.
>>539338537>capitalism is just free exchange of goods and servicesNow that's just untrue. Calling anything capitalist before the European journeys of discovery and global trade is as anachronistic as calling uncontacted tribes communist
>>539338715>chinese vehicles are poor quality, useless, and designed only to lead to global povertyYou're demented and have never driven a good Chinese EV in your life.
>>539338909>the biggest imigration boon we have are from ukrainiansTrue. >>539338909>russia on the other hand supports mass african immigration and from indiaFake. Or sort of. How would Russia support immigration from any other place when all of Europe is at war against her?Also, regarding Poland, it is the EU and your politicians that support the replacement of Poles by undending waves of immigrants from the third world.And you know it.>>539338909>., putin even has more aggressive "h1b" style immigration with india than usa doesLol lmao you're a clown.It appears there is no point in continuing this with you.You have zero credibility now in the eyes of literally everybody.Try harder next time, kike!
>>539337964Arrest me for using chunk AI..idgaf.
>>539338981They are so bad that the US must shit out a constant stream of executive orders to keep them from entering the US market. The obscene tariffs that eat up the price advantages aren't enough, they are SOOO shit that they are pretty much outright banned. The rest of the world is too dumb to realize how shitty these Chinese cars are, of course, that's why these retards all buy BYD instead of superior cars like Chrysler.
>>539339006>All of europe is at war against her what, if all of europe was at war russia would dissapear over night
>>539332110> within the United StatesThe rest of the world will use chink AI.I wonder how this wil work out.
>>539338951communism is a concept invented by a stateless, bitter jewish immigrant living in germany who create a set of beliefs based off judaic messianhic religion and deracination, because he wanted to undermine the german state as he didnt like that other people had a state while jews didnt.>>539339006nobody is at war with russia, putin did not even declare war on ukraine to avoid the term as he comes from communist ideological training and needs to practice perfect newspeak. >You have zero credibility now in the eyes of literally everybody.who are you even trying to appeal to right now your commissar?
>>539338981chinese anything are terrible and the chinese EV market is 100% subsidied by chinese govt as it is not profitable. what kind of retard would buy an electric deathbox from china loaded up with control mechanisms that monitor and even use the on board computer to extract your data
>>539335803Your cunt is literally shabbos goy: the country.You have no agency, and your women can't even have maternal leave. You're a slave.
>>539332110What a senile moron
>>539338829I am talking precisely about that, the file size is irrelevant in terms of downloading or storing it - because you could have a 200TB NAS quite easily, why would you be concerned, or are you on a metered internet connection?
>>539339711I told you that hosting model downloads is cheap as fuck and you started sperging about VRAM and running these models.
>>539332110He's not considering anything. His handlers are.
>>539339331Damn, nigger, you keep digging your grave.According to the UN Charter which your gay country signed going to war is illegal. A Special Military Operation is the way he found to go to war without violating your jewish international law even more. It's funny how you see communists everywhere after being raped so long by them, and I'd arguing continuing to be, one has only to look at who rules Poland today. >>539339238COPEOPE
>>539339941>. A Special Military Operation is the way he found to go to war without violating your jewish international law even more.really bad attempt to fit in on 4chan as vladimir putin was groomed to command by the jewish kgb offier, yevegeny finkelstein primakov. putin has routinely underlined his support of chabad jews as well, and supports mass immigraiton and open borders. its really strange how fanatical you are in supporting a mixed race statre run by oligarchs and "former" communist hitmen and intelligence officers, like some kind of religious conviction for you. its evne funnier that you know putins invasion of ukraine is retarded but you blame poland as you want to justify multiracial society to such a fanatical degree you even invent ficticious scenarios in your head that e..g, poland is somehow behind the UN charter that russia signed
>>539339366You indeed know nothing about the shit you talk about. You'd be excused if you were American and had this type of propaganda shoved down your throat daily, as well as Chinese cars being effectively banned, but you're (I assume, you could be a mutt soldier stationed there) in Poland. So go test drive a good BYD or even a cheap Geely and come back.
>>539332871Nah, AI will be free like the internet.
>>539340189they are "banned" because chinese EV market is intentionally kept low by chinese govt who pays the exporters directly to lower the cost with intention to undermine foreign companies and run everyone out ofb usiness to establish a monopoly around the chinese communist party. byd and geely are the same company as they are both owned by the state, and both very poor quality and built in sureivvlliance tech, low quality hardware and construction (e.g., you can even remove the steering column from byd if you are even moderetely fit, as chinese are relatively malnourished with average chinese "man" weighing about 60kg, so quite small). that isnt even talking about longeivity, as chinese cars are not built to last long. this is why the only types of people who end up buying those chinese cars are either paid influencers on tiktok/twitter or old leftists who think they will resurrect the soviet union. i also doubtv youre greek considering the left supported the turkish invasion of 1974 that was ethnic cleansing campaign agaisnt greek cypriots.
>>539340354>turkish invasion of 1974 that was ethnic cleansing campaign agaisnt greek cypriots.That was a CIA operation. Take your meds and return to reality.
>>539332110got it. i'll upload all the ones i've downloaded back to china. hugging face can geo lock just as easy as i can vpn
>>539340433the turks were not owned by the cia, or do you now claim ottoman was also cia invention e.g., the ottoman empire invaded cyprus several hundred years ago. wait are you even from greece? this is knowledge that any child in greece is aware of. or you are from AEK athens? the communist supporter group that wants to pump greece full of migrants? iam not surprised then why you would support e..g, chinese communist party debt trap scams in trrying to create a global monopoly around low quality products. thats very interesting though, but as you can see the turks are not so strong so if you are hoping that islamists will somehow save you i think you are living in wrong era. the turks failed to even wipe out the greek cypriots and captured around 30% of cyprus and that was without greek military intervention. even greek partisans pretty much defeated the muslim assaults, and humiliated the turkish army and their communist allies.
>>539340433Also>this is why the only types of people who end up buying those chinese cars are either paid influencers on tiktok/twitter or old leftists who think they will resurrect the soviet unioif that's true why are you seething? why do I have to slave away so the based trad capitalist EU can subsidize the decrepit and now mainly American owned German car industry? surely those dumb chinks aren't competition, right?
So american companies will be able just to copy chinese open source models and present them as their own, and charge users for them, when those users won't able to use the original models for free?
>>539340096Putin and Russia are inffinitely better than Poland or any Pole with power.You hate Russia because they are unironically asserting their sovereignty and destroying an unironically jewish state that is slaughtering whites for the lolz. Plus, Putin is the one man alive who was most successfull in hunting kikes in any way that matters.That makes you itch.Kek
>>539332230This
>>539332128They already banned thousands of products from China. From cars to laptops to phones to industrial shit to radios to sillica to cotton to hair products to cosmetics to metals to textiles to gold to jewelry to wind turbines to solar to batteries and on and on and on. They ban lots of software too. I don't know why you think they wouldn't do this. I say they because both Biden and Trump did it. It's uniparty policy now to stop competing with China and protect big business. You really think they're banning BYD for anyone but Elon? Or Huawei for anyone but Tim Cook?
>>539340354I'd like to see the Polish equivalent to BYD and Geely that are so so shit...
>>539340521You ignorant fuking nigger. Turkey invaded Cyprus in the 50s or 60s of the last century. And they unironically invaded it because an Orthodox priest took over Cyprus and was about to unify with the Greeks and the Turks said that cannot be.And then the Soviets, the Americans and the British aplauded the Turkish move and told Greece to accept it or else.How much of a nigger can a Pole be?
>>539340606what sovereignty? it is illegal in russia to even protest immigration, its immediate prison sentence. they have no soveriegnty and they are dying in a pointless meat grinder while foreigners replace them in their own homes and they call all others nazis and racists etc>>539340642you are unironically better off buying e..g, skoda than you would any chinese govt trash.
>>539340606what about all that nazi talk from putin?
>>539340746>Turkey invaded Cyprus in the 50s or 60s of the last century.wrong. turkey invaded cyprus in 1974. you are confirmed not even european. so now we know you are an immigrant living in portugal, or perhaps a vpn attempting to support chinese global hegemony for what purpose? you even lied and claimed turkey did not invade cyprus in 1974 so now you are even trying to defend islamic invasions too. and the communists were on the side of the muslims and advocated for extermination of greek cypriots. even today the pro-russia faction on cyprus supports islam and immigration.
>>539332110China’s models must be really powerful if the free market can’t help zionismChina wonAgain
>>539340895free market doesnt exist in china, their products are so poor quality and have such poor sales the chinese govt is running deficit keeping them from collapse. you are lying as you support globohomo, and want a global monopoly of foreigners to rule the world. why do you hate White people and yet live in denmark? vpn?
>>539332110once again barring the cattle, i mean american citizens, from cheaper and better alternatives
>>539332110>op trusts chinks
This will benefit any nation that doesnt block it.
>>539340975You say that, yet half of the shit in your flat is made in China. Put your money where your mouth is and ban all "made in China" products from your household, from cheap plastic shit all the way to consumer electronics (including all components in those electronics).
>>539332110not gonna protect the ai bubble from the fact that chinese ai exists
>>539340774>it is illegal in russia to even protest immigration, its immediate prison sentence.I don't know about this, I doubt it's true. It doesn't make much sense. Plus the point is not even that, the point is that even Poland has % wise much much more shitskin immigrants than Russia does. And everybody knows it. >Russians have no sovereigntyKek and by comparison Poles do? AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You don't care about reality even one bit... Skoda isn't Polish. >>539340800I am not saying Putin is a nazi. That is unironically a big problem in Russia: The nazi invasion was awful and they think that any enemy from the West is le epic nazis all over again.Just like for Americans any opponent is literally Hitler. >>539340823>wrong. turkey invaded cyprus in 1974Might be. Makes sense. I apologise. >calls me non European because well just becauseLol, do you think anyone to the West of you cares what Poles think? I am more European than you are as you seem to have a nigger tier IQ and I'm unironically amazed you can write in English - assuming it's not your mother tongue.
>>539341137i intentionally avoid buying anything from china>quality is always subpar>superior products can be found anywhere else and prices are not much differentthe moment i realised that china plays a game of intentionalyl infecting host markets with low quality shit, i looked into it and saw the the chinese govt just dumps money into these programs, because they arent profitable but the goal isnt to make profit but to collapse other peoples communities and ruin peoples homes in order to make people subservient on them. same how they scammed moldova by selling them a junk road and then over charging them on interest to debt trap them. i think people who buy things from china are generally low IQ, as you can buy superior local products which not only last longer but also help community out without e.g., surveilliance state involvement. the chinese produce some of the most low quality trash on the planet. i mean just look at the massive fine chinese "alibaba" recieved, as they are all criminals.
>>539332339>This could unironically tank whole USAbased, pray for total 419(k) and housing crash
>>539341250you dont apologise at all, as you support White genocide and mass immigraiton. you even support putin, a groomed jewish commando who worked for communist intelligence services, and support china, a hivemind asiatic bug country that floods world markets with low quality state subsidied trash in order to push for hegemony over peoples homes. and you also support islamificaiton e.g., which is why you are strongly against greek cypriots and support the left-wing islamist factions in cyprus that support russia and turkey against the greek population that has lived there for thousands of years.
>>539341272>i mean just look at the massive fine chinese "alibaba" recieved, as they are all criminals.That's EU niggers from Brussels extorting money at the behest of lobbyist resellers like Amazon. They want to resell the same Chinese products to you at a 500% markup, how dare you cut them off and get them yourself pleb?
>>539332486oh you mean like trump tried to with the tariffs but was stopped from
>>539341358how is it exorting? alibaba is owned by teh chinese government and works to do two things:push illegal crime into europe via chinese criminal organisations, immigration activists, and subservive agents intentionally to try and destroy europeans. for example, you claim alibaba serves interests of europe how exactly? chinese government funds it to flood markets and push out people who produce quality products. the goal being you become dependent on alibaba e..g, the chinese govt for your low quality slop that needs constant replacing. so now they've trapped you while you call europeans e.g., racists and nazis.
>>539341223this. everyone knew this was coming.
>>539341272>think people who buy things from china are generally low IQ, as you can buy superior local products which not only last longerInteresting. Help me out, what would be a good polish Smartphone manufacturer? I want to support you guys. I would look it up myself, but I can't seem to find anything (poor IQ, as you've already pointed out).
>>539341537no you dont, you want to support china so you are trying to shill e.g., huawei (known as "chujwei" as it is low quality bloatware that actively harvests data e.g., in poland huawei even got into serious trouble because it was discovered they are running a massive espionage global ring, even key logging you so everything you write is being transferred to a chinese bot someplace,who is then using it to pump into his fraud scheme to harass your egrandmother and steal her pension, which is what chinese do to make money as most of them are living in very poor conditions). poland does not produce smartphones, hence why you picked smartphones and tried to claim that you need to buy e.g., huawei and allow them to destroy your country because otherwise you would be supporting "fascist japanese" etc. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/11/huawei-employee-arrested-in-poland-over-chinese-spy-allegationseven the guardian, a far left pro-chinese propaganda network that supports chinese global hegemony confirmed the spy ring after we even arrested a chinaman. why do you want european senslaved to china so fanatically? do you owe them money or they haev your grandmother e.g., in ransom? as this is common chinese money making scam:>harvest data on unsuspecting person>blackmail them/harass their family with bot calls targeting older family members>hijacking their pension and money>ransoming it to other family member
>>539332110Best thing that can happen to the rest of the world, cheap opensource AI with no investment banking culture tampering in it
CCP Chinkslop
>>539341726go ask gemini if we're winning the war
>>539341358Polish bro seems to think it's a good business model if the cheap Chink stuff is sold by some tax avoidance cockroach company like Amazon, you are still supposed to buy the same Chinese shit, but it needs to go through three levels of price inflating leeches who don't contribute to anything. If you buy the same product at a cheaper price directly from the producer via Alixpress or Temu, you're le unpatriotic. If I had the opportunity to buy local at the same inflated price, I would consider it, but why would I stuff money in the ass of Amazon and some shitty resellers?
>>539332807thank you based Ching Ping
>>539339941>without violating your jewish international law even more.It's Russian law too. Starting conquest wars and participating in them is a felony according too the Russian criminal code. Unironically Russia can imprison all soldiers who fought in SVO (imagine big surprise for clueless Russian regards, big economy regarding military pensions hehehe).
>>539332159Its the land of the free for the elites and large corporations. You were never included in that freedom.
>>539332110Whoever bans open source already lost
>>539341807thats incorrect. chinese shit is chinese shit, and companies like alibaba are directly owned by chinese govt with intention to destroy all economic life of a community, parasite it, and then replace it with full dependency on chinese govt. temu is the samething as aliexpress and alibaba, all owned by the chinese govt for same exact purpose. incredibly low quality trash subsidied by chinese govt. you seem very fanatical to ensure that people become dependent on low quality chinese govt slop at the expense of e.g., local economy, people getting jobs and producing quality products, and so on. the problem with your globalist ideas is that at some point it collapses as the ussr model showed.
>>539341781Not locked down for basic factual questions like Chinkslop.
>>539341683Ok, forgot smartphones. I didn't shill any Chinese products by the way, I'm just pointing out that the arguments you have provided are either false or retarded (respectfully). Name any other consumer electronics from Poland who are produced with Polish components at a halfway competitive price. The way Insee it, you are trying to establish some impossible standards here, you're selling us a "don't buy from China" spiel but you're not offering any alternatives. Let's make this concrete. What's your smartphone? Exact brand and model, please. What about your tv and your pc? Let's just start and take it from there.
>>539342072yes, you openly support e..g, huaiwei and other chinese government entities that work to destroy european societies, replace them with chinese controlled espionage rings that agitate against europeans who have eg., products to sell, and you want everyone to be replaced by alibaba and temu at the cost of quality and quality of life. i have sony bravia produced in japan and slovakia. my pc even has polish ram in it as we produce superior ram to your beloved chinese scammers and criminal rings that produce bot farms to scam old women out of their pensions which you support. i dont tihnk in history of /pol/ there was ever somebody like you, that fanatically demanded everyone replace their populations with foreigners and foreign domination except for JIDF who were defeated in 2017
>>539341349I am just laughing while you keep getting raped by the Kike SA while worrying with the most retarded boogeyman shit.
>>539342273>It's Huwaeii and he Chinks that are working to destroy Euro societiesThe mad lad!
>>539341726chinese govt controls all aspect of society in china, including all companies. obviously any chinese produced product that handles information will say negatives about everyone else except china. >>539342340we arent getting "raped" as we are not war, meanwhile putin sends another wave of russians to die forgotten in a nameless place in the ukraine while he imports africans to moscow to replace them at home. you support this as you even support globalisation under chinese hegemony, the annihilation of all products and services unless its controlled directly by beijing. you even confessed to not being european and supporting e.g., the marxist-islamist movement on cyprus that supports genocide of greeks andreplacement with islamic immigrants that was primarily the task of the 1974 turksiyh invasion (which you not only incorrectly dated but tried to deflect about).>>539342395even the guardian, whom i quoted, which supports your ideology of mass open borders immigration, russia, chinese hegemony, and destruction of all european people confessed huaiwe was caught ine spionage as they operate like this globally to harvest data sold to chinese scam groups that attack old people for their pensions.
Red Phil me: let's say Claude gets leaked for real this time. What kind of machine would i need to run it locally for myself? Is my 3090 going to suffice?
>>539341902>you seem very fanatical to ensure that people become dependent on low quality chinese govt slop at the expense of e.g., local economy, people getting jobs and producing quality products, and so on.No, I don't. I'm just a pragmatic buyer. If you offer me a good product at a competitive price, I will consider it. I will even pay a premium for locally produced products (within reasonable limits, I won't pay 3000 EUR for some smartphone just because Magda screwed it together in Poland). You couldn't give me any alternatives, I've asked several times, yet you remain on your high horse and propagate your impossible standards without giving me any options. I'm supposed to give a fuck about Chinese spyware, a country I will most likely never travel to in my life and ignore the aggressive and all encompassing spy operation by the five eyes agencies who store everything you've ever written and who probably spy on you through your camera every time you goon around on your phone. Where's the logic in that? Hypocrite much?
Fails to answer basically historical question about 76 year old event.
>>539342475you arent pragmatic you are just a scam artist that wants to destroy human society and create a kind of muttified dystopia run by forieng intelligence farms and criminal gangs that scam old people. i never buy anything china because it means>supporting White genocide>supporting globalism>supporting open borders immigration>supporting espionage against my people>supporting hivemind>supporting low qualityyoui personally supporting chinese espionage is not really my problem, and we are obviously enemies with competing world views. i dont tihnk we have any common beliefs whatsoever. you want to see the world under hegemony of china and i want to support my people. so naturally we are in opposition. you even support e.g., huawei espionage rings that advocate destruction of civilisation and community and support e.g., temu and alibaba that are funded by the chinese govt solely to destroy small economies and replace it with dependency on chinese communist party. i dont see how we can reconile these beliefs, because we are so far apart that common ground does not exist.
LMAO
>>539342850wow that is just pathetic, even for chinese standards which are so low that is even lower then i thought possible. their hatred of humanity is at such a level its insane. i dont think thereare another people like chinese on planet that have such genuine hatred for the existence of humanity.
Chinks never change
>>539342273Here, my friend. I have a Sony Bravia as well. I bought it for 200 EUR more than I should have out of "brand loyalty." Let me tell you a little secret, the tv is pure garbage, their smart tv is a clunky piece shit, I'm very technically versed for a normie and I couldn't get it to work after several multi-hour attempts. I had to buy a tv stick to use smart tv properly (Xiaomi TV stick 4K second generation, before you ask). As a loyal buyer: Fuck Sony, this was my last Sony ever, you're to retarded to publish a firmware update for two years and I'm supposed to be loyal to a "fuck you, you've already paid so go fuck yourself" company like them?
>>539342850>>539342877??ofc you cant ask a chinese model spicy questions about chink historythere are limits on every model, like questioning the Holocaust with chatgpt (you get banned)
>be chink>do sneaky underhanded cheating shit since the dawn of time>why you no trustee my fwee giftu tound eye devil?Fuck off chang. Why does every chink, jeet, jew and other subhuman spend the US night hours seething on /pol/?
>>539342991i dont have brand loyalty, brands are just companies and companies are just people. there is no logic to having brand loyalty. >Xiaomi TVi dont support chinese infestation and espionage or destruction of human species. the fact you even bought xioami is proof that we are simply enemies with no common ground. cheap, dispoable garbage that you need to market even on 4chan because of how terrible it is. whereas you will never see a japanese shill on 4chan trying to market e.g., sony. this is because they have some integrity, while chinese dont. there will be a time when we will have to execute peopole like you im afraid, because you will just try to subvert europe and kill all european people.
The United Shithole of America requires everything be behind a subscription or paywall.
>>539332110Yep. Fuck China.
>>539343061you wont find any other people on planet that market themselves so aggressively as chinaman, look at how desperate they are to even sell xiaomi tvs (government owned proper ty that data collec teverything you watch and send it to chinese governtment for review and analysis which theyl ater use to run marketing scams against old people)
>>539342449Warsaw is way more African than Moscow, you dumb nigger.Moscow is the largest city and the centre of European Civilisation. And they are fighting the jews. While you are siding with the jews. I know it's hard for a Pole to go against the grain... and that will be your end.
>>539332201Been working very well on you and your fellow countrymen for a good half century.
>>539342449I did not confess not being European, you dumb nigger monkey. Fuck off. I am just saying Poland would be better of under le even Chinese than in the sad state that it is now.And if you look around Poland is in a much better state than the rest of Europe, so it has a lot to catch up... You thinking the Chinese are the bad boogey man you need to worry about is fucking hillarious and betrays your inability to fucking reason.
>>539332110>open source>just steal it and give it some POC inclusive name
>>539332110>WE ARE WINNING AI RACE>BY BANNING EVERYTHING THAT ISNT OUR AIYou know dude with this aproach you could invest in datacenter here datacenter there 100 mill here a billion there over a course of decade or so instead of going balls to the wall so much so US growth is at -2% excluding mickeymousery around datacenters that will or will not be built in next 5 years.Im starting to thin US shadow figures are completely aware that China century began, they cant do shit about it anymore and this is just exctration of money from people by all means with no breaks, because any surplus of cash people have when shit goes down will be used for firearms and ammo
>>539332110>>539332230put on a smile
>>539332110It's just western governments being a lacky to corporations again like when they started blocking Napster/Mega/piracy/streaming websites etc.Free economy my arse. You will continue to pay for AI that is conveniently censored and controlled.
>>539332110Judensacks in Blompfensteins ear
>>539332110If American enterprises are legally or commercially forced to rely solely on expensive, heavily guarded domestic models (like those from OpenAI or Anthropic) while the rest of the world eagerly adopts fast, cheap, and near-frontier open-weight models from labs in Beijing, the policy risks achieving the exact opposite of its intended effect. Instead of securing technological superiority, it threatens to handicap domestic companies with bloated overhead and inferior tools.
>>539332230this
What is the option? The Mag7 make up 1/3 of the US stock market. If China open sources AI and floods the market with cheap GPUs, the US companies are cooked.
>>539343141it is not, you are just showing up late now and arguing nothing. putin even has the russian embassies across africa posting step by step guides in getting life in moscow (link is "spam" according to google, but it was posted by e..g, Russian Embassy in Kenya on 24 April)no other country on eartth has similar situation. putins uathorisations include massive support for migrants, and anyone in russia who protests it? instant prison or even execution in some cases.
>>539343008False claim, Hans. You may disagree with its output but Chat GPT will not flat out refuse to answer it ban you for politically sensitive topics.
>>539343474The rest of the globe, particularly across the Global South and developing economies looking for cost-effective infrastructure, is hardly going to halt its progress out of deference to Washington's regulatory anxieties. They will build upon whatever foundation is most efficient, open, and economical.The friction isn't genuinely about stopping global trade...it is about a domestic turf war. The titans of Silicon Valley's closed-ecosystem guard are lobbying fiercely to protect their profit margins from being entirely undercut by open-weight disruption, wrapping their commercial self-preservation in the proud, waving flag of national security.
>>539332110Its because China is the future and the US is a dinosaur waiting to die.For profit AI models are a failure from he outset.
>>539332273I've heard this before, it's not true it's never been true. The internet is no longer a free open space if you haven't noticed you big stupid head.
>>539343567In other words, Trump is terrible at business and is literally retarded
>>539342755I asked you to provide me alternatives not from Chinese brands and without Chinese components. By the way, regarding your Sony Bravia tv:>The Manufacturing Shift>To remain competitive against low-cost rivals, Sony transferred 51% majority operational control of its TV manufacturing and display division to TCL (China). Under this joint venture, TCL handles hardware scale, panel sourcing, and assembly logistics, while the products maintain the Sony/Bravia branding and Japanese picture-processing technology.The most expensive part of your Sony Bravia tv (made in Japan and Slovakia, lmao) is the display panel. Sony produces all of its display panels in China and they have been doing that for many years, same with many other critical components. Could you please be ideologically consistent and show me a time-stamped picture of your smashed Sony Bravia tv, otherwise you're just a laughable dog to me. Look up and verify the info I just gave you, then do what's right and send me a picture with your smartphone, then smash that smartphone as well, because it's also loaded with Chinese components made with Chinese labor. Show me that you've meant anything you've said in the last ten posts, Mr. Polish high horse. Be a proper Hussar and smash that Bravia.You won't do that, will you? You will just spam the same Huawei shot you spammed the last three times like a retarded parrot.
>>539332243AI is a farce that kicks itself in the dick. This is a finance scam, the magical fantasy datacenter proposals should be your first clue.
>>539343625china is such a future it loses naval engagements to phillippines and needs waves of shills to promote its shitty espionage proidcuts on even 4chan. >>539343684that is incorrect, the production is all in slovakia and japan. i am not sending you any personal photographs especially knowing you use chinese spyware, which is confirmed espionage backdoor tools for chinese government that directly connect to chinese governmentsurveilliance agencies that harvest data of people using chinese govt owned products. not even JIDF were as aggressive to push your globalist ideology as you chinese shills are. im so happy i dont buy any chinese slop and i am laughing that its shills are all slaves like you debt trapped into chinese low quality spyware that is hacking every aspect of your existence and making you dependednto n them like a good globalist dog. >spam the same Huaiwei shotthis is how you know you are arguing with a shill. a genuine person would take something like e.g., government backed global sureilliance rings seriously. a shill would just deflect, and this shill is deflecting very hard. without bot shills and tiktok most people wouldnt even know china exists
>>539343544maybe dont ask it like a faggot that thinks the premise is false"hate speech" violation leads to account termination as is written in the terms of servicethat includes questioning the holocaust, wanting to create an image with Hitler, pressing the bot on black crime numbers etc.
>>539343830>chink shills default into defending government backed censorship to defend global espionage and annhiilation of all economies wow this is just getting sadder and more sader
>>539332486>oy vey we have to ban their AI and charge you insane prices because if we didn't they might in the future and make all the money instead of me LOL this is the most jewish comment I've seen in a while
>>539332417>billionaire telling the people that free stuff is illegal and that you must instead purchase the same thing from corporations instead.careful there!!
>>539343887how? jewish is what china does>take large sums of government money and look for areas in the world where people are developing something>create a low quality, poor performance clone>use tiktok to spam botfarms of AI generated content and pay shill influencers to promote it>start harvesting data of people in the community and scam them>flood market with low quality subsidied trash to take out innovation and destroy local economies>force dependency on chinese government owned companies >debt trap communities with this same dependencybut somehow that is okay to you right
>>539332230Well he is the President of Israel (No he doesn't care about the US)
>>539332486>t.
>>539332110That's because the entire American bubble economy is predicated upon AI being a totally real real for realsies wealth generation vehicle, and not fucking snake oil which has looted $1 trillion in taxes. China releasing open source models is proof they do not value it as much as we do, and simply having those models available undercuts the value of OpenAI and a bunch of others.
>>539344053china went all in on AI even running worlds largest AI scam rings by harvesting user data and creating deepfakes from your inputs to target your grandparents and steal their pensions. chinese are quiote open they use all your data, personal information, voice, etc when creating your deepfake as well. its so prevalent that even chinese government owned vendors like alibaba are getting fined now. and just wait until people realise just how much information chinese government has on them, especially the absolute retards that bought a phone from them which openly takes all your data and gives it to chinese government for processing including bank numbers, pins, contact info, passwords, etc.
>Donald Trump’s social media company has discussed charging traders and investors as much as $100,000 a month for faster access to the US president’s posts on his Truth Social platform.>Trump Media & Technology Group has quoted the six-figure monthly sum in talks with prospective buyers of the “Truth API” data service, according to people familiar with the matter.>Proprietary trading firms and hedge funds pay huge sums for ultrafast data feeds because every millisecond counts when reacting to market-moving news. Trump often makes major announcements on Truth Social that trigger huge fluctuations across global markets.And Bloomberg’s Annie Massa saw the pitch:>The note promised “sub-second post data 24/7, including weekends and after-hours,” according to a copy of the message seen by Bloomberg News. It included an exhortation to act fast.>“A number of your peers are moving forward with this product,” the email said.>And if the stakes weren’t clear enough, the solicitation closed with a quote it attributed to a portfolio manager at JPMorgan Chase & Co.: “We’re one Truth Social post away from being up or down 5% every day.”
>>539344128China is bad, but AI is a fucking bubble. And the people positioning themselves as AI gods, the new Steve Jobs, are simply looting suckers. Trump banning Chinese AI has nothing to do with security, and EVERYTHING to do with some asshole lobbyist screeching about stock prices going down. These people don't give a flying fuck about your security or your passwords. They steal them too.
>>539344232All of AI has been trained on libgen and annas archive.Conveniently left out and never gets mentioned by anybody...
>>539344190Arguably the main economic policy goal of the US government these days is to maximize volatility, which makes early access to policy announcements especially valuable and thus maximizes the president’s personal revenue opportunity. Trump Media had revenue of $871,200 last quarter. If it sells just three API subscriptions at $100,000 a month each, a majority of its revenue will come from selling early access to the president’s announcements.To be fair, $100,000 a month only gets you a few milliseconds of early access. For the right firms, that’s worth it, notes the FT:>The general public would not notice the difference in speed between Truth API and updates on Truth Social itself because Truth API would give an advantage of “milliseconds” to customers of the feed.>“Milliseconds is a big deal in this world, high-frequency trading firms and systematic quant hedge funds would definitely want this product,” said the chief executive of a US market infrastructure company.But that’s just the public pricing, $100,000 for a few milliseconds. Pricing for the premium package — with access to policy news hours or days in advance — is available upon request, hahaha, kidding, sort of.
>>539343820First off all, before I post any more answers. You will never admit it, of course, but if you're trolling me, I tip my hat to you. You really got me going and you used the right mixture of ignorance and aggressiveness.What I've told you about the Chinese components in your Sony Bravia is absolutely true. Sony does the research and development in Japan, the components (which are largely produced in China, but also in Taiwan, Vietnam and a couple of other countries) are sent to Slovakia and the finished components are simply screwed together so they can be sold as "assembled in Slovakia." Yes, assembled, not produced. Maybe another anon will take pity on you and confirm to you what I've just told you. I used Gemini as a research tool (a western AI, I hope that's ok for you).
>>539344306Gemini is trained on everyone's Gmail accounts lol
>>539332110AI niggers you told us the tech is free from corpo neck grabbing what is this???
>>539344399additionally, yeah
>>539332110https://www.cadtm.org/The-AI-bubble-and-the-US-economy#:~:text=Harvard%20economist%20Jason%20Furman%20commented%20that%20investment,0.1%25%20annual%20rate%20in%20the%20first%20half.https://evotek.vn/en/ai-and-data-centers-drive-92-of-h1-2025-us-gdp-growth-harvard-economist-reports/#:~:text=Delving%20deeper%20into%20the%20specifics%2C%20Furman%20noted,overall%20GDP%20growth%20during%20that%20same%20timeframe.They need to protect the 92% of the GDP, otherwise is economical collapse
>>539344408That narrative died at the start of the second term of King Grifter. If Trump is in office and you aren't robbling, what are you even doing?
>>539344392there are no chinese components in my tv, it was produced in slovakia (and slovakia doesnt fund bot farms trying to promote tvs made in slovakia). it must be very painful for you that your entire ideology depends on scamming old people and lying online with tiktok. you even support globalist espionage rings. i told you this before, but we are fundamentally on different sides of ideas. you support a globalist hegemony run by e..g, china, and i support local people and products. you even tried to backdoor in xiaomi, another government owned company that supports espionage, destruction of communities, and other nefariousa ctivities. i know plenty of people who are also intentionally avoiding chinese products especially after the huaiwei scandal which is still ongoing (eg., its been found every single chineseelectronic is transmitting all data including passwords and pins directly to chinese government agencies). chinese phones even record your voice for deepfake purposes.
the chinese cant release an open source model that can compete by distillation, and they do not have the GPUs to train a model properly. Frontier models are in no way hurt or in trouble. Open source is a faux concept as you will be gatekept by the power and infrastructure needed to run a comparative inference. If theres any merit to it, local image and video generation is probably their concern, not protecting frontier models. And the game isnt the models, its the power capabilities, both US/China posses but only one has a cuda moat. Nonissue and you can ban open source even if he wanted to. Bc ill just drop 100k and start distilling my own
the real story is how inept elon musk is by paying 100s of millions to distill claude but still fail the AI model war, to open source
>>539344503sucks being a retarded nigger, bc the highway act and pivot from railroad was objectively more insane and scope and investment. And quite literally made us the largest economy in the world. Keep it up spain you guys got a great philosphy on economics
>>539343830Use your critical thinking, Hans. They are forced to comply with local laws. That's a European law problem, i.e. that's a you problem for living in a society that limits freedom of thought, inquiry, and expression. I don't get banned for asking those types of questions.Meanwhule Kimi gives me its own log dumps of its own Google searches being blocked by chink firewall lmao
>>539344930>Comparing AI to fucking highwayI seriously hope that you are a jew trying to bullshit because I refuse to believe anyone could be this stupid
>>539344777Ok buddy, you laid it on too thick in your last post. I have to congratulate you before the thread disappears, well played, masterful trolling. I feel a bit dumb, but hey, we had fun nevertheless.
>>539345019you seriously are underestimating what is left to do with compute after the power is achieved. yes its exactly the same infrastructure pivot as the highway act. Complete reshuffling of commerce. Highway act is for nuclear transport and military foremost. Data centers and highway act are 1:1 comparable
>>539345060you have nothing to add at all, go back to peddling chinese trash on 4chan debt trapped loser
Open sores is fucking garbage. Nobody uses loonix.
>>539332417>you must instead purchase the same thing from corporations instead.If it was just that.>the same thingSorry, bud, we only carry AIsrael.
>>539332243Chink models wouldn't exist if it weren't for prompt mining US flagship LLMs. A $20 dollar a month subscription isn't that expensive. Don't be a cheap kike.
>>539345839alibaba and elon paid anthropic handsomely to distill their model. None of this distillation can be done with the $200 subscription. Its 100s of millions in api spend
>>539332532>except they're entire doctrine is that there are communists only once they finish being capitalistAh, so now fascism is the prerequisite to "real communism." Commies are the masters of mental gymnastics. Meanwhile, the average Chink slaves 72 hours a week for $30k a year in PPP to support their "people's billionaires." What a joke.
>>539332110Kek what a bitch. TACO
>>539332230Accelerate, it will end with mutts and kikes dead in the long runThe more the better
>>539336552Your economy is already in the shitter, retard amerigolem.A ban from orange fucko retardation will only make it worse, but im all for it to see your mutts seethe and die
