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American AI has solved math problem which evaded human mathematicians for 87 years

It happened just recently with the new AI models
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>>539334059
Roaches are too dumb to do math, fake news
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This improve our lives, how?
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>>539334164
It doesnt deal with real world in anyway but its not even the point
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AI 'solves' stupid shit that no one cared about, makes everything that matters worse

Cool
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>feed problem into computer and computer 'figures' it out
WHOA
AI IS REAL
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>>539334185
>it's completely useless
>b-b-b-but that's not the point
kek
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>>539334152
>>539334164
>>539334230
>>539334327
Keep the cope coming.
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>>539334446
Go suck Elon's cock like you always do
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>>539334059
Wow that is just stellar I am sure someone will do something excellent with this information that improves some thing in some location at least for 2 or 3 seconds thanks so much for making a thread about it on the politics board OP
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>>539334655
>Liberal artist still seething that noone will pay money for the porn he draws when they can use AI and do it for free.
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Be sure to double check the answer taking floating point errors into account.
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>>539334164
Someone might stumble upon something and find a use for it later. A lot of shit is discovered by accident, one man's trash another man's treasure.
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>>539334707
>>539334655

>AI bubble discussion
<not political

it just keeps the world money supply as a ransom but whatever
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>>539334059
>math
Can it solve spelling too?
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>>539334845
It is not going away either. Now that governments are applying AI to the military, it will be considered a matter of national security and these data centers will be deemed critical infrastructure. If someone decides to sabotage one of these data centers it would be treated with the same severity as if a dam or power grid was attacked and the offender could be hit with terrorism charges.
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>>539334446
how is it beneficial?
>it's not
oh it's useless then
>reeeeeeeeeeeee you're coping
kek
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>>539334655
It's gonna generate some shareholder value and that's all that really matters.
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>>539335030
How is making bad art by hand beneficial?
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They’re trying to woo investors back in after the Kimi news by hiring Harvard mathematicians to solve obscure math problems and attribute the solutions to their product
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>>539335110
this happened earlier:
>no money
>no interest in solving some problem
<get suddenly money
<ok then I can solve this
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>>539334446
I won't be investing in your startup.
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>>539335075
>having to move the goal post
why bring up art out of fucking nowhere?
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I don't know enough about mathematics to even argue or express an educated opinion here. What the fuck is Jacoby conjecture
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>>539334164
Makes stonks go up.
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>>539335275
until the bubble pop
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>>539334059
>be OpenAI
>Hire 50 big brain mathematicians
>give them each millions of dollars in compensation for eternal NDA of stfu.
>give them infiniti compute to use for their mathing
HOLY FUCK AI SOLVED SOME ABSOLUTELY NOBODY EVER NEEDED CONJECTURE OF THE FUCK IS THAT FOR EVEN
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>>539334059
Yeah, and pocket calculators do math much faster than humans. Muh AI. Geewiz, if with all the data and computing power it couldn't even crack math problems... I mean, we know there is no intelligence behind it, but the amount of data and computing power alone should make it piss-easy for clankers to solve practically any math problem. Nothing to do with intelligence in any meaningful sense.
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>>539334164
It doesn't. Conjectures can be useful for establishing frameworks. A proven or not yet disproven conjecture contributes to your life subtly by informing systems but a disproven one breaks systems built upon frameworks utilizing it and one could arguably say it has a negative impact, especially if it's long standing since mpre will assume it's true and utilize it. So it there's any improvement it's simply that a false assumption has been overturned and certain often very abstract systems will be ever so slightly more robust and reliable going forward after the negative fallout. That's my laymans understanding anyway.
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>"We did it! We solved the math problem!"
Great. What actual problem did you solve?
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>>539334059
There's absolutely no way a system this small evaded computerized search/verification over the last 30 years. Anyone even casually interested in the problem would have written a script to table such results simply as a way of investigating and understanding the problem.
Half the anons in this thread could come up with a decent python script search in a few hours.
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I'll give you one of my third eye thoughts directly from me that AI would never spit out.

Data centers will be used for Skynet to link normies who got the jab and 6g implantables to the cloud. Those who get the implantables will wish for death like in George Orwells 1984, but will have their consciousness continuously transferred due to the TOS they agreed too.

Your heart acts as a power source and paired with the smart dust (software) and MRNA jab (hardware) will be used as a power source for whatever they need. You will be the zero point energy that they harvest.
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>>539335216
Because you sound like someone who scorns self improvement. Only mathematicians, who are all math fanatics, gives any amount of shit about this with maybe AI developers because the foundation of computers is calculators.
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>>539334059
oh damn i was assuming it would be something very procedural like finding a slightly better way to rearrange an algorithm
impressive
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>>539335252
it seems to assert that a function has an inverse if it has no flat sections (i.e. a non-zero jacobian determinant)
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>>539335683
Uppier stonks make poppier bubbles but as long as you're not holding the bag when it does pop you're good.
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niggers in a "a.i. proves 90 year old math problem" are still talking about the bubble popping. holy fuck you retards. keep denying reality. a.i. is never going to disappear ever again.
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>try talking to AI, it obviously has zero common sense and zero reasoning
>will spout the most retarded well written shit
>idiots with AI in their hands at work are a menace, and a source of long texts full of lies and inconsistencies
>NPCs literally see nothing wrong with its output
>woow look at this well written text, AI is genius
>woow AI figured out the hardest math problem ever!
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>>539337519
maybe we are the ones who disappear
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>>539336494
>solving made up bullshit is self improvement
kek
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>20th century broadcast ad
Nobody cares
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>>539334713
Based IEEE 754 enthusiast.
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>humans with their feeble brains can't solve the math problem for hundred years
>AI solves it in seconds after committing all the math in the world to memory
>humans with their feeble brains seething
Kek.
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>>539334059
kek so did 4chan
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>>539338039
typical low IQ take

you guys need to realize that AI is going to become, to our generation, the same thing that the telephone or the internet was to previous generations

grandmas sending all of their savings to a pajeet "microsoft technician" or falling for similar scams, would not do so if they could only communicate to people right in front of them or by letters, but a more complex environment requires better reasoning

similarly, a world with AI also requires better reasoning we're not used to. a very well written text no longer means anything about its credibility. perfectly fine articles can be full of small inconsistencies and lies. it used to be that only a person with a special skill (a chad salesman basically) could be good at talking and trick others, and you can deal with those by reading into their intentions, which is a skill people naturally have.

now, a machine with no intentions and no behavior patterns will spout the best written bullshit ever. this is not something most people are ready for, and will make the environment we live in more intelectually demanding. you need better cognitive abilities and pattern recognition in order to not be tricked. if you think humans are "feeble minded" compared to AI, you do not have said cognitive abilities.
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We've solved all the math that we need, ask that's left is dumb gay shit like this that nobody cares about except mathematicians, so why do we need mathematicians any more? Why waste tokens getting AI to solve this?
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>>539338396
I think it relies too heavily on global supply chain and complicated infrastructure that is isn't going to be around much longer due to current global instability. I think our world is going to be closer to what our grandfathers lived in very soon.
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>>539338396
Shits already bein foreseen. It will lead to a massive split in humanity.
Those who can keep up and provide value in a almost fully automated world.
UBI monkeys who aren't able to keep up and live in a complex zoo system.
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>>539341591
I don't think so, I think it's starting to cap out. it can't do most shit currently and it hallucinates too much to be reliable.
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>>539338396
>telephone or the internet
Made a profit very quickly. AI does not.
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>>539342045
Internet and phone also were created to answer problems that existed, AI doesn't really solve anything
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>>539338396
>2 more years
>2 more trillion dollars
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>>539334059
Math isn't a universally understood science.
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>>539334059
What does being good at math prove? Did you know the smartest mathematician Terence Tao's son trooned out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkXnZr3p4A8
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I just asked AI if AI is a scam and a bubble and it said yes lol
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>>539334059
I love it
I already have like 4 theories to test.
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>>539342298
SEA MONKEYS
WHY ARE ASIAN PEOPLE SO HEAVILY RELATED TO SEA MONKYS
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>>539334164
Not everything is about improving the lives of useless fat plebians like yourself, you low IQ vermin.
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>>539334059
> Jacobian conjecture proven wrong
Okay, how does this solve ANY problem of humanity in the real world? Like fusion power or nigger stupidity.
Otherwise it's nothing but l'art pour l'art, or rather: math for math.
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Mathematician solves something and is paid a lot of money to ascribe the credit entirely AI, big whoop
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>>539334059
you make the assumptions that humans have been trying to solve it for 87 years. there are tons of open problems that could be solved if any mathematician put effort to do so, but no mathematicians consider it an important area to investigate. sometimes these kinds of problems get given to masters or postgraduate students.
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>>539334059
>nonstop flood of AIfags talking up incompetent slop bots
The AI bubble pop and market crash are 100% guaranteed, we're seeing shills in preemptive damage control mode.
>muh china
>muh national security
>muh American progress
Lol, lmao
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>>539334059
Did ai actually prove it or is there some post from an unnamed schizo somewhere on the internet buried deep in the model?
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>>539341591
What people refer to as AI recently, aka LLMs and image/video generators, will not lead to the world you're expecting.

Most people do problem solving that requires common sense in their daily jobs, even jobs that people think are easy and unqualified. AI can't do those. Even if it feels like it's improving fast, it will never have common sense, by virtue of how the technology fundamentally works.

This is the best example I can come up with to illustrate my point:

Consider these two possible responses to a scientific or medical question:
>A: Plain response just stating an accurate answer
>B: Couple paragraphs with terminology that's common in other similar scientific texts about the topic, written in a formal tone, with a writing style that's common in scientific papers, formed of grammatically correct sentences, and a thesis, elaboration, and conclusion. All stated facts in it are made up.
To a human being its obvious which one is better, to an AI, its not, as the AI is a statistical model, and B is statistically close to a correct answer in many ways other than being true. Only people get the meaning and the importance of it being true.

They can fine tune it so that it prioritizes stating facts that are also stated in training data, or conclusions from reasoning based on them, but its still fundamentally doomed to lying all the time. And if a conversation gets a bit complicated (like when low IQ users keep confusing the AI with a hundred followup questions and still take the output seriously), you can forget about that being remotely credible ever kek
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>>539342045
>>539342165
I never said anything about whether AI will be more or less successful or relevant. Can you guys stop being NPCs and try to process the meaning of what you're reading?

I literally just said that we used to not have machines put out entire very well written texts which are full of lies for no reason, and now we do. So that's a problem for people who tend to trust whatever is well written.
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>>539334446
It’s not cope that’s basically the whole crux of the argument when it comes to this AI revolution.
How is this making things better?
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>>539344417
Tangible, real results are something AIfags can never come up with. It's always a bunch of vague nonsense and buzzwords. Every real life example has been an extreme niche of something with 0 real life importance. When you press these people they have nothing but gaslighting and insults. It's like talking to children obsessed with their toys.



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