Elon Musk is the biggest welfare queen on the planet
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Water looks too clean to be a capitalist paradise.
>muh evil millionaires>use AI
>>539334271yet another judeocapitalist inversion of reality
>>539334271yes
>>539334271Those capitalist fishes will trickle down any minute now...
>>539334614Meanwhile in reality in Germany:>employer pays employee 100 €>employer makes 105 € or 5€ profit>state takes 40 € of the 100 €>state takes between 7% and 19% of the 60€ for everything the employee buys>state takes further taxes on rent, gasoline, alcohol ...>further mandatory fees for state owned television and radioSo the guy who pays for my living and makes a small amount of money in the process is the bad guy?The compensation for more than 50% of the time we work goes directly to the state. >b.bbb...but our infrastructure .. a.and hospitals and schoolsOur infrastructure is decaying. Taking a train is a complete gamble. Hospitals are overfilled. Children are getting dumber with every year.The money is spent on a giant bureaucracy, foreigners leeching social security, wars and pet projects of the self-appointed elite and NGOs aka nepotism. We are less than 5 years away from a collapsing social security system.
>>539335088>>further mandatory fees for state owned television and radioYou guys have them too? That is the most retarded tax to ever exist, yet we can't get rid of it.
>>539335180because your tax money works for (((the west))) and not the workers
>>539334614Picture literally describes taxation, which is socialist policy, but some faggots are too stupid to understand simple things.If workers make all the value themselves why they are too stupid to run their own companies?
>>539335254Well if there were no taxes then it would work for workers wouldn't it you enormous fucking imbecile?
>>539334614Memefag, ask me how I know you never had a real job in your life?!
>>539335375>golem couldn't even type coherentlylol ok you can try again
>>539335435That's not any counter argument you kike commie faggot.And (((you))) just proved you are just a bad agent who came here to troll and spew shit and not to discuss nor learn antyhing. KYS.
>>539334436Not everywhere is India
>>539334614You forgot the government taking one value stack from the guy on the left and also only one from the one on the right and calling it fair.
>>539335506must be thanks to those libtard regulationsimo, they should drop them to encourage manufacturing and bring back American made supremacy
>>539334391kys disgusting slavshit mongrel
>>53933518018.36 € per month. The total cost for state funded TV, radio and cringe youtube channels is 10.4 billion € per year. The worst thing is the shit is completely unwatchable for everybody who is not a boomer.
Lower taxes doesn't guarantee market optimization. Extra cash given to wealthy tends to lean on investments only in low risk areas or a repurchase of same assets. Along with the encourage of zero sum games instead of healthy beneficial exchanges. The result of lowering taxes results in volatility and collapsing systems. Total freedom to choose means people will choose the zero sum game. This is the solely reason why conservatives will never hold power for a decade, because it is obvious for everyone to see. Thus a geared punishment happens every election cycle because rich people refused to create more wealth. You will never convince rich people to make solely fair exchanges, or take risks as they will contort to morality of total freedom.
>>539335088That 100€ and 105€ calculation is probably a bit off anon...I mean hell for some mom and pop shop is maybe is... The problem is that everything is easier for bigger companies. We should stop being "fair" and try at every step to give small business owners a leg up and make it hard for fortune500 companies. Drive real growth not gdp
>>539335928Of course not. This is why minimal government and laws are required to keep market from monopolizing.But in nowadays socialist states, we are back to feudalism where rich landlords and nobility lobby for laws that hinder free market and pour money to their pockets. It was all written in Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith and condemned. And we are back to the same shit nowadays with a lot of paperwork to do to run business which you cannot meet unless you are rich and have money to pay for lawyers or to bribe politicians. And the rich are nor doing any enterpeuership but making parties which are just eating up the money, which also was condemned by Adam Smith when it happened 250 years ago.But bunch of fucking retards call this neo-feudal socialism we live in today a capitalism, while it is everything that father of capitalism Adam Smith already said that is not capitalism.
>>539335814>state funded TV, radio and cringe youtube channels is 10.4 billion € per yearThat shit unironically makes me seethe. Why do I have to see this? Why am I paying for it?
>>539334384This
>>539335991see>>539336092everything is easier for bigger companies because they lobbied for laws that hinder enterpeuership for small businesses and have a bunch of lawyers who allow them to avoid taxation while the small business and workers get all the burden of taxation on them.It is neo-feudalism where state and bunch of few nobles decide about everything and serfs have nothing (which already was done in USSR). Which is exactly what socialists want to have, but in their retardation belive they want something else.
>>539334436>communism is better for the envitomentIgnorant retard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
>>539334436>the government having control over the means of production is a good idea
>>539334271Isn't it opposite in America? Little man fishing, big corporation siphoning?
>>539336146ist dieses dumme stück scheiße immernoch auf jewtube unterwegs ?! https://youtu.be/saCgbMU5guU?si=ptaEdvz92eIPMz2P
>>539334827Yea because poor people finance businesses.
>>539335435Holy fuck i cant imagine getting so btfo’d you resort to ad hominem
>>539335088Labour is extremely over taxed and under payed in western Europe. Iv reached a point where it doesnt make sense for me to work extra to buy luxuries. Once the essentials are covered you just stop working because its so pointless to keep going.
>>539336092I tried being a landlord. Its not that landlords charge too much. Its that the average worker is paid really badly.If rent is so high, why doesnt it cover the cost of basic maintenance of the property? Cause it fucking doesnt. What that tells me is rent just SEEMS expensive to the average worker...due to their very low pay.I quit being a landlord because I realised that since im not using leverage (a bank loan) I can just sell my property now and invest it in other things and make way more money.>But the rent!Its fuck all.
>>539334384Yes
>>539335814its effective the luegenjournos lining their own pockets with easy money while delivering a low-performance job that sucks up to the system and pure evil.anyone who has ambition or interest in the truth there will not advance and kicked out. the entire system has grown into a useless "stfu and take the money" abomination.
>>539336605labour taxation is the most anti development thing ever.And when you have progressive taxes you are punished for working more. I've beend through that where I was just under additional tax for earning too much and did some over hours which ended up being taxed at 32% rate instead of 19%(as it was in Poland at time). So in the end I was punished by socialism and taxation for working more and somehow the same work I did was worth 13% less for me personally per hour.But some commie faggots will tell you it is capitalist buisnessman who took my money not the state.
>>539334271Now merge both.
>>539336558ach die schlitzi ist doch nur ne systemhure...so überzeugte parasitäre aktivisten wie die dunja habjali die immer ihre eigene scheisse mit reinmischen statt neutralität sind faktor 100x schlimmer
>>539336710If you were a landlord for one or few housings then you were not a landlord that is a problem, but a simple sefr with additional income through landlording.The problem with landlording is where one person owns a fucking ton of housing and land and can live out of it because he doesn't even maintain it but pays people to do it for him and still gets a lot of cash for doing absolutely nothing but being an owner of things that are basic needs for workers and people to live and work. Again it was already explained in Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith.And if these big landlords were culled, then you probably wouldn't be a landlord yourself in any time, because those people who rented from you would have their own places to live in.
>>539334614Communist reality was/is constant shortages and poverty, you dumb faggot.Theres a reason the USSR collapsed and the USA did not.
>>539334271Notice how all the socialists are the same race. Are you saying socialism is a Whites only system? That is not very progressive of you German anon. The German government will probably have you re-educated. can't have you being a nazi
>>539334516this one funny
>>539334271From the thumbnail it looked like the capitalist bought all the fishing rods, which would have been more apt
>>539334271and this is why there are no fish in the oceans now
Notice how all the jew slaves are the same slave goyim race. They're breed to love jew cum.
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>>539335991>That 100€ and 105€ calculation is probably a bit off anon...You can just google the average netmargin for germany, if you think it is off. It is a realistic value for the german mittelstand.Sure you can argue that an employee brings more value than other equipment, but then I would argue that the impact employees have is pareto distributed and payment does not reflect this enough.And I think you are completely misreading the small vs large situation. We are not giving large companies advantages by being "fair". That is complete bullshit. We are destroying small companies by being unfair. Small businesses are getting fucked much harder by regulations than large ones. If your company reaches a certain size you can just have a person working full time on this stuff. In a small company you just overwork people until they quit to compensate. "Lieferkettengesetz" is completely impossible for small companies. Large companies did not lobby against this, because it gave them an advantage. Only now, when our whole industry is collapsing are they realising how bad the system is.But you should also realize that working for a large company pays better, you have (partially competent) unions, a Betriebsrat and there are rules that you are being treated in a fair way. Small company with emotional boss and no Betriebsrat - no thanks. Our main problem is that the state is way too big, makes way to many rules and takes way too much money for way to little in return. This is the reason why we are currently losing ten thousand jobs a month in the worst streak of deindustrialisation in our history. In 2029 the state budget will be completely absorbed by social security payments, interest payments and defense spending. It is mind baffling that so few people are freaking out about this.
>>539337078>It is mind baffling that so few people are freaking out about this. It really isn't when you start to understand people. You're obviously more intelligent than the average guy and capable of thinking independently, which puts you in the minority. Most people are rather dull and they're total slaves to their consensus filters, the sheep have to check with the other sheep before they feel comfortable signing off on an idea or opinion. "If nobody else is panicking than I shouldn't panic" thinks the sheeple to himself and goes about his day. And if he starts to creep up on that understanding of what is going on, the open realization is such utter social poison that he will subconsciously repress, cope, and make excuses to avoid becoming socially unacceptable to the herd. These people will not take ANY preventative action and will only deviate from their routines when the house is literally burning down around them and not even a single second before.
>>539335088You can literally check the numbers for every company online, you know. they are public. I never would've thought I'd see the day when the new generations who got raised by corporations start to believe corp lies.When a corp says it's in the red numbers they need to lay off 2000 workers it means they made only 240 billion profit this year instead of 245 billion like last year.
>>539334614classic
>>539334516>buying ticketsThe only guy I know who went to see the games had his tickets subsidised by the swedish football association to even afford them. I have no idea how the floods of third worlders you saw on tv ever could pay these prices in their lifetime. America really is a nation of scalpers and jews
>>539334271where's my fish then?
>>539334271All this directionbraining is completely useless. Kill kikes, ban usury and forgive all debts every once in a while, and whites will make any system work. The only reasons we're fucked is because kikes made usury legal and blocked any debt annulment, so now they just win forever.For most of history, usury has been illegal and debt annulment/forgiveness has happened semi-regularly in prosperous societies, never leading to disasters but averting them. Rome collapsed in great part because kikes pulled this trick, causing unfathomable wealth inequality and effectively turning the average roman into a debt slave while also importing foreigners, and surprisingly when 99% of the population had no stake in society, it collapsed.
>>539335088>a small amount of moneynigger, please. How retarded can you get?
>>539337078I worked in Germany in plumbing and in mail delivery. Both times for small companies where the boss had 6 villas and half a dozen Oldtimer cars and 10 neetsons and daughters with 5 gold digging wife's and 30 neet family members. Gambling and drinking.I also worked in Canada for a landscaping company. Same shit. Boss is digit multimillionaire while his employees, Mexicans and Filipinos get less than min wage.I worked for television companies. Same thing.They don't want to pay wages so they get taxed. Simple as. They don't give a shit about worker security or health. So they get forced to do it.What do you think workers fought and died for in the past 300 years?You think they are unwashed hippies and faggots?
>>539337696Have you ever tought that his businessman actually worked as a worker himself before he could buy machines so he earned money from his own work?As those poor exploited workers could do themselves, but refuse to and somehow end up working for those greedy machine owners.As if manufacturing is one thing and selling your stuff and getting clients and earnign money out of it is another.
>>539334271>>539335088in here it;s like 40-60% if i remember correctlythe employer costs makes him pay let's say 10 000 plnworker recieves 6 000worker has to pay~50% of taxesworker recieves 3k and complains that capitalism le badi can give you detailed numbers if you want i think the calculators are still onlinealso kys commies
>>539337933>What do you think workers fought and died for in the past 300 years?They fought exactly against what faggots like you propose with higher taxation, progressive taxes and other shit that hit workers the most.If worker 300 years ago would hear that if he will work more he will get taxed more and that taxation is over 20% where he was fighting against 10% he would have hanged you and all you commies faster than those evil capitalists (who are in fact neo-feudal lords who use socialism and centrally steered market for their own gains, they even get government grants form workers' taxes) you shit on.
>>539337933>I worked for>I worked for>I worked forThat's because you're an evil sack of thieving commie shit and you're too fucking stupid to make your own business, so you want to steal from those who aren't worthless sacks of shit like yourself. Evil like you cannot create, only take and destroy.
>>539338320My father and grandfather are anarchists. They fought against communists.You education is very little.>>539338364Yea I had 43 jobs in my life and I'm only 42. I also have my own business running and started 4 companies in total.One time a translation company in 2008. I had 8 employees and I paid them min wage while I got thousands of dollars for each project. I literally did not work at all. The 8 translators did everything for me. All I needed to do was organizing and communicating. It was 20 minutes of work for me maybe less. And I got 5x more cash than all my employees combined.
>>539337696that's stupid. All original investments comes from the bank.
>>539338595>My father and grandfather are anarchists. They fought against communists.>You education is very little.Why would I be educated in your family matters you fucking idiot?Plus "You education is very little" is not proper english, so it is fucking funny when someone uneducated like you puts a sentence about my education in a broken english showing complete lack of yours.
>>539338595>being this proud of your heritage of being a jewish plaything https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat
>>539335088It's worse than that. The employer also pays corporate and payroll taxes, and some insurance directly, so even the brutto amount you see isn't his total expense of hiring you by any means.
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>>539338800My heroes are Buenaventura Durutti, Nestor Machno and Emiliano Zapata. That's my heritage. My blood.
>>539334384biggest african welfare queen in the country, not even blacks can do that right
>>539338871Weird as it is but you guys were right all along.>people simply cannot be trusted with large scale governanceDoesn't do away with the need for some kind of macro scale organisation though, because otherwise it's just a temporary period of waiting for the next warlord and his goons to come along and take over.
>>539337779Yes, ask these kikes where's the debt jubilee every 7 and 50 years and they'll be silent. Further proving they are not real Bible kikes and need wiped out.
>>539338894best jazzman is whitebest rapper is whitebest gibs reciever is whitecan niggers do anything properly?
>>539338248>>539334271i lied here's the calc
>>539339147They can run very fast especially when there's a white policeman behind them.
>>539339346No, you made mistake here. You wrote 10k gross earnings which is 12k for employer in the calculator.While in your post you wrote 10k for employer which sould be 8k gross for worker.
>>539339432But can they breathe when caught?
>>539339460i didn't made a mistake10k is how much WORKER earns on PAPER12k isTOTAL costs of worker for EMPLOYERworker gets 6.8k 'to hand'
>>539339346Odds are this doesn't cover all state directed costs though, like payroll tax and parts of social security the employer pays outright, that never make it onto your loan sheet, plus things like VAT, fuel taxes, or simply fuel costs to get to and from work that aren't refunded, so 40% probably still is an understatement in absolute terms.Own a house? Well gee that will be another bunch of taxes or taxed expenses.In Germany it adds up to well over 60% for most, sometimes over 70%, what ultimately goes to the state of their total employment expenses.Now of course sometimes you get some of that back eventually, like pensions, but that's not guaranteed.
>>539339480In a perfect world: no, but niggers are kinda stupid so usually fate will intervene and save their life (through self sabotage or other mistakes they made, like their pants slipping on untied shoes flying off their feet).>when your idiocy is so profound sometimes it protects you from the consequences of your idiocy
>>539339600See, exactly what I meant.>you don't even get to see 20% of what would normally be part of your incomeAnd then there's all the stuff that comes after, prominently VAT, 20% on virtually anything you buy.
>>539339655yes of courseif you add vat then it slashes by 23%, taxes in fuel, taxes in cigs or alcohol futher slash it if i remember correctly in 1996 was made a precise calculation and 5 people family that earned avarage pay for that time has returned 86% of their money to goverment
>Our main problem is that the state is way too big, makes way to many rules and takes way too much money for way to little in return.hahahaha that's the same in elsewhere in the eu or wherever the state is acting as a big daddy taking back 70% of your paycheck. and with the growing number of oldfags and gibmigrants it is set to become worse and worse. any healthy, talented capable white man should get the hell out of the failing eu
>>539336858Seems like these days we've got the shortages and China's got the surplus.
>>539334516what if I do not want to watch it
>>539339891> complaining about 20% vatit's 27% here in fungary
>>539335180>yet we can't get rid of it.just remove TV jew from homeI did in 2000
>>539337696>how did you get machines?>I sold products made by these machines bought by products made by that machines...squarenes of circle with leftistproblem is negotiating just wages;we had recently mandatory increasing of minimal wage after Constitutional Verdict
>>539334614why isn't that worker providing that ''value'' alone, for himself, ignoring the capitalists?is he so dumb he can only provide value if he's abused?i'll tell you whybecause it's very dishonest picture, as usualcompletely ignores the part where 'capitalist' / company provides space, tools and machines, training, materials, distribution, marketing, sales, paperwork (taxes for workers etc...) and other shit necessary
capitalism is when a guy in a suit palms most of the fish from the worker's bucket.
>>539334614Your image is propaganda. The "worker" doesn't make anything. At least not on his own. He labors with tools paid for by his employer, with training given to him by his employer (at the employer's expense), in a facility but by and paid for by his employer. So yes, his employer is absolutely entitled to the lion's share of the revenue generated from the product or service provided.
>>539339600You wrote in the post >the employer costs makes him pay let's say 10 000 plnemployer costs are more than gross salary so if employer pays 10000PLN then gross salary worker recieves is less than 10kPLN and with 10k employer costs worker gets around 6kPLN nett.
>>539337696I mean yeah I think most physical labor gets exploited to some degree. However the business owner has to take all risk and provides a living for hundreds of people. Perhaps they are a necessary evil, although I think regulations should provide better working conditions since there is no real good sulution to the money aspect.
>>539335088Couldn't have said it better. 100%.
>>539334271We only serve Hamburger, Fish Sandwich, or Roast Beef on the Kosher + Halal + Judeo NPC Menu, and / or Jewish / Niggerized / Lbgt / Faggot / Gross / Fake / Cringe "alternatives" ... You must want a hot dog, then "Low effort stinky meme, Semitic Anon
>>539335308> too stupid to run their own companythere’s only one place on earth where the workers are too stupid to run companies, develop capital, repair capital, and that’s Africa. that’s niggers.not-so-incidentally, when you give niggers rights within a European nation (America), absurd things unfold. the absurdity begets absurdity, and now America is in a situation where the most valuable people want to leave immediately.they don’t want Europe because it’s Socialist. they want it because there are no niggers there. they can blame donald trump, capitalism, whatever. liberals hate America because America is running nigger.exenigger, nigger, nigger
>>539340713>women make multi millions selling pics of feet, and babies stop being made so the government imports millions of jeets to make big line go up
>>539342700just take meds and stop fucking up good threads
>>539340890> company pays for toolsyeah, no. go outside. meet people. learn things.
>>539342783
>>539339600i know my employer pays roughly 8k € total for me per month. i end up with barely above 4k net. 50% gone for tax & social security. its realstic.
Women want to leave America because niggers ruined America.
>>539342783Take your own toxic poison wrong think "meds" then kill yourself AnonAnd all reptiles, too
>>539342783Capitalism/ Socialism debate is for 8th graders.
I think capitalism without nepotism and corruption would be fine, its literally the jewish third world influence that is ruining capitalism
There are two types of Civilizations
>>539342838>>539342896>>539342916wow you glow so much it hurts to watch. Typical glowie deraling tactics, not a single coherent and smart post anyone here made got so much responses as shitty post I made. You fucking tools. KYS.
>>539340890You've clearly never had a job in your life
>>539334271capitalism = work is worth doing, you have more than otherssocialism = working is useless, you're better off on welfare
>>539342700>>539342869I hate niggers, niggers... But I hate "fellow whites" even more, AnonsSo separations will only make sense if they're racially, culturally, and spiritually and different territories, Straight White Non Jews deserve territory in AmericaThat 40% might hate niggers (but i doubt the numbers are that high) but will still support piggers / reptiles / jews / and "fellow whites" unfortunately (((Liberals and / or Conservatives)))(((Governments))) (((Judeo NPCs / Golems)))
>>539335180in jewish society, you have to even pay for your own propaganda, thats just how greedy jews are
>>539342869Women ruined america by supporting the continued existence of niggers
>>539334384When’s the last time you created a market out of thin air like Starlink? Fucking unemployed crab in a buckets like you give /pol/ a bad name
>>539335088Is this the power of the European welfare state?
>>539337696what a stupid worthless commie
>>539342242the people complaining about "exploitation" are exploiting. everything is simply projection. they're level one magicians that don't want you to notice so they lie to your face blatantly. Marx was a bum. he exploited his friends and the system. then complained about the system exploiting him. it's just a lie. "projection" explains so much of the modern world. you seem bright and I don't want you to be blinded by it. cut through their bullshit!!
>>539337764>subsidisedknow a guy who knows a guy. it's all fake
>>539343120In jewish economy they tell you your money losing power (inflation) is a good thing.Historically jews were the coin clippers and minters of bad money. Their tactics created inflation and made them rich.Nowdays they tell you that them clipping your coins (virtually now) is a good thing! And with inflation and FIAT money they clip everyone's coins every single fucking day.And they teach buch of people in economics and they believe in this shit too. And noone seems to be fucking angry at it.Damn, people went from "I can save money to buy X" to "Oh i earn so much I can get credit from jewish bank for X"(because you cannot save money for X due to low pay and inflation damaging your savings) without any thought.
>>539343230>When’s the last time you created a market out of thin air like Starlink? Fucking unemployed crab in a buckets like you give /pol/ a bad name>Internet providers didn't exist before Starlink >AI meme companies didn't exist before SpaceXThis is your brain on Musk cum.
>>539334384He sure does like his socialistic government contracts. Capitalism for the plebs.Let the goyim deal in the real.
>>539334271What gave the fisherman the right to claim exclusive ownership over the lake? He did not make the lake, he did not make the fish. Why should he profit from the natural fruits of the land? He should be paid a fair wage for his labor, but he does not have a right to claim 100% ownership over the fruits of the lake.
>>539338871>Zapata
>>539334271yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHjevcaAejA
>>539334271so is capitalism the part where the lake is owned by a communal, by the man fishing, or by nobody where a jew then puts up a toll booth and make the fisher pay to be able to fish.
>>539334516>capitalism leads to white extinctionaccurate
>>539345334the lake doesn't belong to the community, nor the fisherman, nor the "jews"—fucking asshole; the lake belongs to GOD ALMIGHTY. and we—since we aren't retards—created a "state" to manage equal access to the lake. That means no smart-ass can come along, buy ten boats, and fish the whole thing dry, nor can everyone just fish however the fuck they please. And yes, everyone pays a reasonable tax—just enough to sustain the system and a bit extra to make improvements. Damn... it’s not hard to understand, unless you’re one of those fucking retards or bastards looking for an easy way to make a living... scamming others to live off a con, like classic old-school charlatans.>>539345478another commie/socialisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnOn8BmU7JA
>>539334271what does one person need so much fish for
>>539334271Spic meme from a krautWhat a time to be alive
>>539338055No, they can't do that. Not everyone can be an "owner," in fact, the vast majority of people can never be "owners" or the system of surplus value extraction falls apart. Somebody actually has to do the work to extract from.
>>539334391Greetings Max Mustermann from Berlin Oblast
>>539346222Another snake trap... i ask you, is he always going to catch a huge amount? Is the fish going to stay fresh until he eats it? he only needs fish? Are you retarded? Who decides what counts as catching "a lot" or "a little"? You?how? Is half the population supposed to do whatever the other half wants or thinks is right? The half that’s completely useless and just freeloads weirdos...well... if you ask *them* nope... xD But let's put it to the test :D right here, right now...:)))))) ... i know all your kind...., and universal suffrage is cancer....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4LRLeHTECE
>>539340530How many shots did you take 2021+? Just asking.
>>539346985no xD life is not as simple as "jailed or chaos"... that's fkn absurd, but maybe you meant to say "protect your expending machines, don't be like the mongol from the right" then i agree with your message :DDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAXsaEMX-Lg
In capitalism the capitalist decides the worker's salary.
>>539347576That’s what the people deceiving you want you to believe. Just think: if there are lots of "capitalists," there will be high demand for services and products; consequently, any capitalist who wants the job done will have to compete in a free market and PAY MORE. But instead, you have unions as intermediaries, just like priests are God's intermediaries xDD—in reality they are traps for morons—as they are ideologically and economically tied to the state-run political parties you see on TV... the fun is here, they just repeat things like parrots, to make a pretty good and easy living and fool the rest of parrots :Dalso the inflation it's caused by central banks and states crooked management not by your compatriots.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpqFU1LaXA
>>539340110The West is far closer to USSR economics than China is
>>539335088And yet, big companies are thriving. Rich guys are running around in super sport cars and privates jets somehow.
>>539334271now show the capitalistas kid where the water is green with algae and human waste and the fish are floating dead on the surface
>>539348601>have unions as intermediaries, just like priests are God's intermediaries xDD—in reality they are traps for moronsHow are unions a trap? It's easier to negotiate as a group than each worker negotiating for himself with a business with infinite resources.
>>539349432>float a million beehives on ten thousand pontoon boats all topped with solar panels>the bees pollinate local plants and make honey then fall in the water to feed the fish, fish population explodes>excess daytime solar energy powers a longass archimedes screw pumping water from the base of the dam back up to the reservoir, boosting the hydrodam's potential output>surplus wealth of post-scarcity economy buys a filtration system to purify the pumped water, improving fish meat qualityAge of Aquarius when?
>>539346525oh no!!! not the system of surplus value extraction!!! why won't anyone thinking of the poor poor system of surplus value extraction!!!???
>>539349712>How are unions a trap? You guys crack me up :) — empirical arguments are presented to you all the fkn time, and you always watch outside and come out with the generic questions and the fallacies xDDDD. Your rhetoric is shit, just like all of you. migrate to those communists/socialists paradises you all love and talk about all the time, and let us live in peace in our capitalist hell motherfuckers, btw tito was more capitalist than communist, and coming from you, of all people... damn. tito didn't implement that control soviet-communist in Yugoslavia, except for the fascist state structure; unions weren't needed because state factories were managed by the workers themselves—handling wages, product prices, and so on. In real capitalism, everyone competes in a free market: if the state crushes the competition with a high-quality, low-priced product, rivals can't charge high prices. But if the state and its enterprises fail to produce competitively—and everyone is just stealing—then private companies make the sales while the state doesn't, and it becomes obvious for everyone what happens in the public company... besides, tito built a strong yugoslavia, and look at you now...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJp68chkQ
