>man returns from game coding conference>every game studio who showcased their projects they are working, admit they use AI to make their PC or console games>it was in USA, Chinese makers not involved
AI is just computers. Get over it. No different than photoshop, calculators, or GPS.
>>539335368>no billions (of money) put in photoshop>no billions put in calculators (hand held type)>no billions in GPS
>>539335276>do not redeem the cyberjeet saar >think of my village!
>>539335276Unreal slop really made me quit gaming. I play skyrim sometimes.
>>539335276>a panel on the use of AI in gaming>everyone there was using AI
AI replaced every white autistic programmer who spent years and years making the most retarded shit like multiplayer netcode for battletoads I love it. I've never met a game coder who wasn't an insufferable prick that thinks their shit was gold. These are the only people I'm fine with replacing, honestly fuck them
>>539335276would please fuck off with the AI advertisement how many thread do you need?
>>539335520How many thread are you claiming having been made by me
>>539335565way too many roastie everybody hates the AI slopif something is made with AI, it is guaranteed to be shit, instant brand damage
>>539335488>thinly veiled jeet lovewhat will you do when your fellow white friends find out you are jew?
Which AI should I use to generate 2D game assets?
>>539335955https://comfy.org/https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUIand you need to create your own workflow, or download some ready workflow
>>539335276this AI hate is exactly the same shit that happened 30 years ago with Macromedia Dreamweaver.
>>539335955an Illustrious based model with a pixel art lora will do 99% of assets fine, if you need very specific shapes use a depth and line-art controlnet.if you need specific color matching use a pre-colored latent image as the base and set the denoise lower than 1.if you need creativity and can articulate exactly what you want, use an Anima or Krea2 model for generation and then filter the result through an Illustrious model for styling.
>>539335276>hosts panel at game dev conference about using ai in game dev>it exclusive attracts interest from game devs that utilize aiShocker. Did you know that in this thread we have a 100% participation rate for everyone who made a post?
>>539335782spooky
>>539335955imagination and talent.its an older model of AI, but it just werk
>>539335276>they were actively looking for workInversion of realityIm in 3D and there was never this much work even in boom of 3D printingNot AI garbage, actually modeling shit on spec.
>>539336684>>539336062Thanks anons
>>539335520>>539335659>One of the 4 artists looking for work found the thread.I love AI, and I know a lot of people that love AI and AI art. I've seen so much AI art and work that was better than anything I've seen a human make. I actively look for things made with AI. I want to see people adapt to learn the tech, not become bitter, reactive luddites. People learned to make art with soul using digital media, they'll make it with AI.
>>539335782Very spooky
>>539336504Photoshop, too
>>539335276>oi m8!>u ned a liocense for that game development >can't have you going on ChatGPT and asking simple questions about what software is required to create a game!>can't have you following simple instructions on how to implement cross-software assests to generate a procedural map and populating it with Ai generated characters>can't have you brainstorm character arcs and classic dilemma, trial, pivotal, resolution stories >YOU GOTTA HIRE MEATBAGS WITH UNI PAPERSReeeeeee!!!
>>539335276Why wouldn't you use AI for coding. Do you do arithmetic on a piece of paper instead of with a calculator? Do you ride a horse instead of driving? Do you cover your food in salt to preserve it or do you use a fridge?
>>539335415Billions have been put into all of that.
>>539337180CAD as well.
>>539335415Except billions were, adjusted for inflation and ongoing you fuckin idiot
>>539337501>>539337529Those technologies actually worked, GPS doesn't randomly tell you to go to a place that doesn't exist and call it "hallucinating".
>>539337599They were shit in the beginning
>It becomes easier to make games>The market gets flooded with garbage>Consumers lose faith in the assumed quality of new games>Overall game sales drophttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commonsConsumer faith is the resource being depleted.
>>539337624The market being flooded with garbage doesn't stop you from making a good game.
>>539335433Skyrim sucks and is for normies.
>>539335276>>539335368Putting culture in the hands of a self-reductive algorithm is the dumbest shit humanity has ever done, and a strong argument in favor of extinction. You would all choose convenience over improvement. You're the people who eat the seeds instead of planting them and growing crops. And unfortunately, there's more of you in this world than me, so I guess the Earth is doomed. Enjoy the inevitable stagnation of Man.
>>539335276> relentlessly castigate ai users> post fake news about datacenter water consumption> make memes of greedy ai ceos> use ai to do all your workrate settings
>>539337654Correct, but it makes the average consumer more wary of buying new games. I firmly believe this effect is why the video game market has boiled down to a tiny number of juggernaut games.
>>539337599kek you honestly think that in summer 2026 chatbots are useless? tranny cope. also GPS was patchy and inaccurate when it first rolled out
>>539337624The market has been flooded with asset flip shite for years, devs have stolen art assets for years. Like shite games haven't been the standard for a decade now.
>>539335276>I DON'T USE IDEs TO CODE>I DON'T USE DEPENDENCY MANAGERS>I DON'T USE BUILD AUTOMATION TOOLS>I DON'T EVEN USE HIGH LEVEL LANGUAGES>I STRAIGHT UP WRITE BINARY THEN ASSEMBLE IT MANUALLY THEN COMPILE IT MANUALLY THEN BUILD AND DISTRIBUTE THE ARTIFACT MANUALLYThe absolute state of these faggots who've never worked a single day of a real job in their life. "CRAFT CODING", lmfao unfuckingbelievable
>>539337719Yes and no. The masses will always play the most popular slop. Not my problem. I play indie games and have a blast. Currently playing classic survival horror indies. There are so many good games coming out in the indie space.
>>539337747And in the last decade the games players are interested in has shrunk down to a tiny pool of known games. The best indie game ever made could be published on Steam later today but odds are no one's gonna buy it because buying a random game on Steam is a great way of throwing money away these days.
>>539337792How is that your problem? Finding good games is not difficult.
>>539337844>Finding good games is not difficult.Correct, because I just play old games.
>>539337045>I've seen so much AI art and work that was better than anything I've seen a human makeAn absolute lie. Post it.
>>539335276You‘d be stupid not to use AI in coding by now.The fuck are you still writing by hand, a dinosaur?Some idiots try to popularize this notion of „mih handwritten code is le quality“. Yeah whatever. Sometimes, but trend is, it‘s not. AI coding is better, faster and more effective. > „but i want to copy the bible in handwriting and not use that new book printing machine!“This is how u sound.
>>539335433> I play skyrim sometimes.We all know why. Cp mods.
>>539338226I love ai, because it's apocalyptic for tech. It is destroying internet as i write this.
>>539338226It's all just ego cope. Their identity was bound to them programming. Now that it's being streamlined, it makes them upset. For me it's just another tool.
>>539338226AI is garbage
>>539335276how is shuffling libraries in high-level languages better than ai vibe-coding? it's essentialy the same thing
>>539335276>I was at a thing and did a talk>can we see your talk?>NO BUT TRUST ME IT HAPPENED BROFake and gay.
Why the fuck wouldn't you? I'm a grade A programmer, and I basically don't code anymore because Claude does it as well in a fraction of the time. I just tell it what to write
>>539340278that's called programing in meta language you are a shill not a programmer
>>539337705While I think you're right, I'm sorry to break it to you but the history of humanity has been like this this the agricultural revolution.In fact, I can literally imagine in my mind the hunter gatherer chads first coming into contact with anatolian farmer incels and be like>this can't be good for humanity long termyet be ignored because the virgin gatherers being resentful of the chad hunters were like>omg omg it's so over for huntcels imagine having to run after your food when you can just watch it growfast forward 10000 years and we pay taxes to pedophiles, rain water is not drinkable anymore because boomers wanted non stick pans and people are generally less healthy and more miserable than early hunter gatherers.just ride the tiger bro, the kali yuga will be over soon in like 400,000 years or something.
>>539340702pajeet
>>539337045Why do you believe his claim
>>539340780Me in the middle chilling with the whitest argentinians.
>>539335276They are supposed to use the AI to make the boss react better to the player, making it more difficult. Not use AI to make the game for them, no wonder everything is exactly the same kind of terrible.
>>539335659Its a nice help tool but that's all there is to it. If you're making music or art then you can get complexity and nice themes but it will lack some distinct elements. There's many ways to engage with it, dumping a long list of requirements and copy pasting the output is not the most optimal way. >>539336846Work evolves. Programming also did, you don't need a jeet junior dev to deliver his 10-20 lines of code per day. You do need senior devs who can challenge AI outputs, actually know business problems and context and can navigate a maze of tools that even AI struggles to advice on.
>>539337624It hasn't become easier to make a quality game though. It has become easier to ''just make the game work / run''. AI tools help a lot, especially with the mundane programming work. They don't automatically add quality or make it fun / worthwhile to play.
>>539340278> I like to tell lies on the internet Maybe you should ask AI to write a better customized output for a 4chan thread that is more believable.
>>539335276>industrial revolution>people doing mindless tasks get replaced by automation>more people than ever move into mass production>still requires people to be willing to set up the production chain>digital revolution>people doing mindless analogue tasks get replaced by automation>more people than ever get access to computers>still requires people to use them>AI revolution>people doing mindless tasks across all fields get btfo>more people than ever get the opportunity to be the ideas guys>still requires people to use the tools to create what they can imagine>somehow this is a problemThe people capable of understanding the output at a high (programmer low) level will still have ridiculously high paying jobs. The only difference now is that you don't need to spend months/years reinventing the wheel when you need a software package trapped behind extortionate paywalls. This is genuinely the best time ever to be a creator of any sort because if you have the willingness, motivation and determination to create, you can absolutely create some amazing things. The real problem is that we've created an underclass of loser over the last 200 years that are willing to slave their lives out with no real want to do anything creative, these are the people truly getting btfo because they were never capable of thought.
>>539337719Woke faggotry and an national army's worth of people who have no business being in gaming or the passion necessary to be there and be successful are what destroyed gaming.It's faggots and women making dog shit that's to blame.
>>539342247>somehow this is a problemIts growing painsMost don't even fully understand the capabilities available to themProbably myself included
>>539335433even turd eaters hate unreal engine lol
>>539340278what do you code
>>539335276Do you think if AI came out 20 years ago it would fulfill the early 00s aesthetic that the era implicated? In other words, the enshittification of everything in the modern day created a sterile environment for AI to launch. I think if the agar plate was dirty like it was in the early days of the internet, AI would actually be cool as fuck. Unfortunately it was launched in the era of Amazon Prime next day package delivery and so it is hyper-capitalist slop. Tell me I’m retarded if I sound retarded
>>539335276You dont support the thing supporting the whole economy??? Are you a chinese agent?
>>539335276AI is better at coding than humans. It's better at maths than humans. It will very soon be better at everything than humans. It being used in game development is probably the least of our worries.
>>539335433Based jeet Hyperborea simulator enjoyer
>>539335276I know jack shit about coding but it's mretty obvious modern devs don't know how to code.Games weight dozens of Go when they don't need. BAR is 2 fucking Go ffs, that's when I realise modern devs are scamers.
>>539335782spooby spooky
>>539344445Sounds plausible, and regrettable. Can't really go back.
I promise you that people who know how to code and have solved complicated engineering issues can utilize ai for coding 5000x better than people who don't
>>539335276You literally can't look up anything on the Internet anymore without prompting a LLM.
>>539335276Feel free to use AI to do you thing, but don't forget that you have to mark it if you're going to publish it on steam. Good luck with your sales!
>>539335276there is almost no reason to manually code or not use mcp's these days. if you actually did any sort of dev work you'd realize 90% of the job is forum hunting for solutions that other people have already found. agentic coding allows you to focus on creativity and solutions to problems (i swear these are not buzzwords in this context) as opposed to algebra and if you are using the correct dot operatori think the conflation with ai art, which is bad sure, is what causes people to deride ai coding, but its off base completely. no soul or creativity is injected into a project because i manually plugged my clips into a mecanim flow and turned on preserve hierarchy myself to get the animations to work. i didnt gain anything from doing that manually. on the flipside, if i can prompt in plain english to do these things while also assigning my player character to their correct faction and adding drag to the player controller all in one prompt in less time, what the fuck would i have gained from doing that by hand? the answer is nothing, i am just wasting time if i do that by hand coding at this point is less about "can you do the math and remember all the form and coding-concepts necessary to make anything at all" and now much more "how can i treat these already existing pieces that keep getting recreated, more like an already existing toolbox and combine them in unique ways?" the one thing I will say is that the better you understand the underlying concepts, its likely you will be more efficient at prompting and even going in and editing where you need to, but id argue that this should be reserved for senior/lead positions anyway. of course you shouldnt just let a machine blindly lead you, you should understand what its doing as much as you can, but let's not pretend you gain soul or intention when you do a hand calculation as opposed to using a calculator, all that mentality gets you is left behindinb4 sar because im defending some aspect of ai
>>539337599you have genuinely not used claude code with an mcp to connect it to a game engine, you are stuck thinking we're talking about chat gpt or something lol
>>539335415cant tell if retarded or trolling, classic Scandinavian
>>539335488I have a similar take. Anyone who thinks I shouldn't use AI for programming should be damned to communicate with stack overflow contributors and moderators. Let them live in that hell before condemning me.
>>539337624the market is literally already flooded with garbage. if anything, this allows creative smaller teams to work more efficiently so they can compete with larger studios. indians who used this stuff to make games with those pixar thumbnails on steam can be spotted from a mile away. its literally all a net benefit. ai will not make you a better game developer, it simply lets you reach your potential faster. if your potential was always some soulless jeet, your game will be that and it will be obvious.if someone makes something you genuinely enjoy but you find out they used ai code later, would you have no way to reconcile this with yourself? would your brain just break?
>>539335488actual correct take minus the white bashing from a brownoid, these same white autists are the reason the hobby exists at allbut yes you are correct that learning to code meant that making games used to be gate kept to people who would only end up using it for the most asinine shit, like recreating all of mario64's movement or somethingnow if YOU have a good game idea and learn some design basics, you can quite literally mog that modern autist, and no, this is not even remotely the same as ai art. there are near infinite ways to draw a line, there are not infinite ways to wire WASD to movement. I mean there can be, but you'd be wasting the fuck out of your time to not do it one of two known ways, so literally just prompt that and then ask it to explain what it did if you are curious
But the games are all bad
The overselling on its abilities are whats going to kill AI. My job has a data entry job that takes a person 15 minutes and has a 3% fail rate. We have spent the last 3 months trying to get AI to do it and despite it lowering complete time to 3 minutes we cant get the fail rate below 20% at best and that's using 2 agents to do the job and 3 other agents triple checking the work.
>>539337477>Why wouldn't you pay for air? I mean it doesn't purify itself we purify it at great cost to us. It's technology get with the times and pay for your air.
>>539345773that's because the AI is not intelligentit's a botto be intelligent you need internal model of the world
>>539345887what does this analogy argue for, that ai should be a public service?
>>539345773you are not using it correctly. if you gave me your data set i could get claude to organize it in minutes with 0% failure
>>539346063I could get a text editor to organize it too>notice somethingyou need you do the work
>>539345773double reply but i just dont believe this lol, ive literally had claude and coplay design entire tether systems for an fps game like bulletstorm through 3 prompts, one to actually define the systems and 2 to debug. it fucking nailed it. somehow I dont believe you when you say you couldnt get 3 agents to itemize a list correctly. that strikes me as either overwhelmingly -user error-you didnt give the model enough context-or you are just lying
>>539346135yes right now, at some point in the process, a human hand has to tell the ai what its doing or valuing as its current goali dont believe that guy is telling the truth when he says he couldnt get 3 simultaneous agents to itemize a list, thats actually just impossible unless you're a complete fuckup lol
>>539337599>GPS doesn't randomly tell you to go to a place that doesn't existEarly GPS did that all the time, zoomer
>>539346312greatsoftware as service, compute hours are fuelit's worthless
>>539335488I'm a white autist and I love using AI for programming. No having to deal with middlemen or teamwork.
>>539346547you are not a programmer you are a pajeet shillpunjabi nigger
>>539346370Yeah and you fags with your TomToms could enjoy the middle of nowhere, while my MapQuest printout was triple checked before I left the house. Also, you're a Brit; when I printed directions, it was to travel hundreds or over a thousand miles. When's the last time you even drove over an hour for something?
>>539346239The job is to just grab some data from a database and go to a few dozen sites, other spreadsheets and emails to merge it all onto a new spreadsheet and use that to fill in 3 pages on a form. Might be that we taught it wrong but the guy who sold it to my boss sold it as a super simple thing to link the websites and some rules and it'll be up and running in less than a week and despite heavy hand holding and constant pointing out where it went wrong it still gets it wrong a good 20% of the time.
>>539336846what exactly do you do and how can someone get into it?
>>539346544your human hours are fuel, you are atp expressed as a service to someone else. better to have tools that allow for the smaller guy to compete
>>539346796I have internal model of the worldso does a bee or an anta literals ant is smarter than your botyour bot will never amount to anything more than fancy text processor
>>539346765https://www.tinkercad.com/use this for quick 3d modeling for 3d printing
>>539335276>host a panel on AI use>people know beforehand it's about AI use>surprised when everyone in attendance is interested in using AI
>>539335276>design game>use ai to help you envision and code the game instead of a retarded jeet or tranny>games become great again
>>539347071never happened once , never willyou will have game that just doesn't work and is unfixable
>>539346704i feel like that 20% fail rate could be easily fixed if you just add a prompt that rigidly defined your failure conditions and it checks itself based on those conditions. proper prompting these days almost wont allow something to fail if you have properly defined your goals and fail states. the one thing i can maybe think of is that maybe right at this moment, constant web page access and scanning those into localized work might be a bit difficult. i think many models still struggle with pulling stuff from the internet then leveraging that into its work but i dunno i still think more rigid goals and failure conditions would fix the problem, but id have to see it myself to know what was truly going on
>>539335276Better than Indians niggers and women.
>>539347071A good exemple of art design fucked up by AI is sins of solar empire I and II.Soulful 90s art vs souless garbage, I immediatly asked a refund.It's not even the most worrying aspect of it.AI is dangerous because of people relying on it for historical/political informations.
>>539345718I feel like this very fundamental issue is not being addressed at all.In games, coding, art, everything theres this theoretical discussion as if the thing doesnt exist already.It exists, its being used, money is spent and nothing of value is there. Its a tool for talentless people who shouldn't have been employed in the first place to spew shit 10x faster. The things nature predetermines it to create slop. There is no value in the world for an aggregate of the masses, who have no creative value. Its a noise machine
>>539346880it feels obvious you've never used any of these tools if all you consider them is a text processorits like calling a calculator a fancy abacus lol, right in only the ways a philsopher would care about, meanwhile the guy using the calculator is SPEEDING past the guy doing calculations by handalso model context protocols quite literally give ai an "internal model" of its working world.
>>539347254that is ai art, not ai code. there are infinite ways to draw a line, there are not infinite ways to connect WASD to movement.
>>539337407Christ, you talentless hacks can't even come up with the STORY yourselves anymore? The age of the slop is brutal
If you needed a random faggot on twitter to tell you that, it just exposes your own IQ levels. Everyones fucking using it and theres nothing you can or will do about it except cry on the internet and upvote nose ringed retard posts on instagram. Thats literally it. Try killing yourself and the AI boogie man will go away.>t. Im using the living fuck out of it.But unironically what makes me happy is that the anti-AI crowd exists. Shit would be WAY more difficult if everyone was on board. But since you have a low IQ and are a seething queer, there are way more opportunities that way. So please, carry on. I demand it.
>>539347707all that spam you jeets spew is making everything worse offshow us one thing done by AI that is good
>>539347707You sound very well adjusted and secure in the value of your output
>>539335276Damn, and I just want better enemy squad tactics in FPS, with enough numbers that even the entry level guns stay effective and a self insert fantasy player character that is tough enough to kick ass but not totally invulnerable. Like a better Doom or System Shock. If it takes AI to make that, so be it. I want it made one way or another.
>>539337705If the purpose of giving women rights and subsequently importing the third world was to get me to stop caring about what happens next, then mission accomplished.
>>539340278The responses to this tell you everything you need to know. People are fucking clueless what it does for efficiencies. >MERRR WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY CODE DERRR THEY DONT DO THIS AT THE SANDWHICH SHOP I SMOKE WEED ATabsolute fucking brainlets. Kill your fucking self, you have no value.
>>539348536Please respond to >>539347873And show us what has been made
>>539335276The only people who don’t like ai are parasite leftists who lodge themselves into corporate structures and use them to push forward their own agenda. AI is what’s going to enable small groups of white men to create their own games annd movies again.
>>539343947Distributed systems handling big data pipelines on the cloud
>>539348888AI algos can produce some images, and in some cases that might be usefulhowever those images are always fake, they are useful for deception only
>>539335276Good. I don't need to upgrade my pc ever again (I use linux btw). Gaming peaked around 2009 or so and everything on consoles can be emulated.
i genuinely cant imagine coding without LLmsso fucking boring and long
>>539335276That's why you need a RTX 5090 to run games now
I'm kind of sad AI stopped using em dashes so much, these threads used to be full of them, and people saying they've always used them constantly.
>>539335276Duh, why forego the use of a superior tool?Do you get angry at spoons too?"Oh but that hot soup could have been carried by hand, creating jobs!"
>>539335276The anti-ai fanatics are batshit crazy. And i don't sympathize the tiniest little bit, because i remember damn well the evil 2008-2012 years. I remember how the evil white collars didn't give a single flying fuck about the blue collars losing their jobs and houses and just casually and cruelly told them tolearn how to code. Fuck the white collars. The second they make it in life, they immediately start thinking that them and the rich are chums and that they are friends and on the same side. That it's them versus the smelly poors, or something.
>>539349226>a recent phenomenon of AI coding is responsible for the codeslop we got for the past decadeIt’s actually incredible how stupid the anti-AI crowd is. Beyond flat earth I’d say genuine wakanda believers
>>539335276>they were actively looking for workAlright, what is this Xitter fag selling?
>>539347205>i think>i think>i thinkI wrote like this when I was in second grade. You're a 75 IQ jeet.
>>539335368>AI is computers
>>539349337Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>539335433>I play skyrim sometimes.I'm guessing you installed some mod that allows you to rape stray dogs.
>>539349257They were always a thing. It's part of the natural cadence of the English language and if AI is teaching people to use it instead of abusing commas, then good. I'm glad AI has ended the debate about the Oxford comma; hopefully it starts using semicolons more as well
>>539335276I'm also making my game with AIThank you for the free tokens sama
>>539335488>>539345670Remember, most game developers will accept crunch time and low pay just to work in the field.I doubt the guys working Barbie or Paw Patrol games are living their dreams.
>>539335782There's a skeleton in your body.
>>539335415All of those things were the product of billions in investments dickhead
>>539335276If AI is so good, why aren't AI games competing with AAA games already? Shouldn't the market be flooded with all types of games by now?
>>539349934Palworld was almost entirely vibecoded with AI. You’re late
>>5393499342 more weeks and a trillion dollars more bro. Thats all it needs
>>539350079Really? I like Palworld for what it is. It's not super fantastic, but it's fun, more or less. Plus anything that makes Nintendo whine about IPs when it mishandles its own is fine by me
>People in tech uses the latest tech toolsOh. My. God.
>>539350215Anything released 2025 or later will have varying levels of AI programming. This is across the medium not just indie AAA or niche categories. If you’re truly “anti AI” get off the computer because it’s everywhere now.
>>539335488who will feed data to your AI jew in future npc? no one will produce anything you will just be served reharshed goyslop forever
>>539350079Where are you getting this claim from?All I'm seeing is denial of any AI use from the developers.
>>539337757Unironically coding has always had these dudes. Its the difference between people who actually program for a living, and hobbyists who spend all day on Stack Overflow. I distinctly remember being in college and reading Stack Overflow threads that were saying using Visual Studio would make someone a worse programmer; we should also just use notepad++
>>539349337>defending slop engines that made ram and disks expensive
>>539339220You are years behind. The current models, which are commercially available, are absolutely smoking professional devs on actual competition level problems. Also, more than 1000 outstanding unproven math theorems have been either proved or disproved by AI this year.
>>539345670it is exactly the same as AI art, and all of the screeching artist fags are going to find out
>>539337624Consumers are retarded and don't know real art (AI) when they see it
>>539350411Programmed, not assets. The general consensus is that AI art is BAD because you might make communist artists starve (oh no). Every game has the bulk of their programming done in AI and then checked by the programmer. You’d be retarded not to atp.
>>539337757thisIf I forget a very specific function on a language and I ask chatgpt about it, I'm technically using AI and now the whole project is AIVery stupid
>>539336684can you say it in English, pleasepleaseplease?>what's a lora?>illustrious based model?>pre-colored latent image?muchos thanks and tkd, king
>>539335368I want an AI to replace me like liberal whites want blacks to replace them
>>539350312I'm fine with AI. To hate people using AI for their work is like hating a ditch digger because he is using a backhoe. AI is a tool. I asked because I've always wanted to make my own game and the coding is what has held me back. I have ideas, story, concepts, characters, art styles all in mind and written down, but coding is definitely the hard part. If "vibe coding" produces decently functional (and most importantly: fun) pieces of work, then I might try my hand at making a game.
>>539350812Claude would be perfect for that if you’re serious. You’ll have to struggle a bit using it but you’ll ultimately start to understand what it’s doing and how to hand fix it. And yes, it’s like complaining that a white T shirt isn’t hand knitted for you. If anything it can accelerate the total death of h1bs.
>>539350556But predditors are telling me that it doesn’t exisg and that I should NOT try this in any way whatsoever
>>539350812If you can't code you're probably low IQ and the world is better off without your game.
>>539345185Only self published titles, the big ones don't have to do it.
AI will usher in a total slop era. It'll be really difficult to establish cool ideas and cool art because the market will be massively flooded with AI diarrhea which will look great at first glance.A hundred IQ 60 Indians will be able to vibecode and tweak a game somewhat resembling Dark Souls 5 with what will look like great looking assets.
>>539350812"Im an ideas guy, I just dont know how to do anything"-every retard everStop making slop, dummy. The world doesnt need it
>>539350812>If "vibe coding" produces decently functional Doubt.>(and most importantly: fun)Double doubt.Can you point me at an example of a "vibe coded" game that is decently functional and fun?
>>539351025Kek. Lefties always being against industrial progress has me convinced they’re good little Chinese piggies.
why is it supposed to matter to me that AI was used to code a game? can someone explain?
>>539335782Spoopy
>>539335276I just started maxing on AI tools. Its no use, the current flagship models are just too good at programming (when you know exactly what to look for) to ignore. The only thing that bothers me is that I'm i feel like i eventually will forget how to write code.
>>539351202>Can you point me at an example of a "vibe coded" game that is decently functional and fun?The whole thread is people ignoring requests to do this, then writing an insecure cope
>>539351253Because you’re starving an H1b shitjeet by using it. Given how Microsoft and IBM are operating, do you really think the jobs would be given to white men if we dismantled AI today?
>>539351253It is just gatekeeping by snobs who don't want to lose their cushy setup. But, there's nothing they can to to stop this tide.
>>539335415Holy shit youre retarded lmao
>>539351253If it's just copy and pasting what AI puts out, all the vibe coders who don't know how to program are stuck when there are bugs or they spend hours and money trying to fix it with more AI.
>>539335782Spowwwky spooky
>>539335276>craft codingjfl
>>539351341Go to any game development threads and you'll only find people advocating AI but never posting AI games or progress.
>>539351253Because the lefty tranny programmer gay mafias preach about "democratizing the means of production" until it's their field. That's the real reason lefties are so anti-AI, muh water and muh Elon is just smoke and mirrors.
>>539342247> This is genuinely the best time ever to be a creator of any sortExcept, jewsYou can and will be outcompeted and drowned out by chosenites with access to the money printer. It's been happening for at least 2 decades now - nobody can compete with big boys that can and do call JPOW (now Walsh) for a free credit boost whenever they fuck up and then buy all competition whenever they feel like.AI is just going to supercharge all that.The industrial revolution has been a disaster for the human race. And the middle class. All the "durr new jobs will be created" faggots need to be put out of their fucking misery right now, I'm so fucking sick of their retarded shit and open inability to understand basic economy. Automation, like immigration, pushes wages down by inflating the labor supply - by DESTROYING labor. The jobs that once were are no more. The "new jobs" that are created as a consequences are just vestigial management roles that are enabled by the new sudden jump in efficiency that automation allowed. You're not seeing any of that in your wallet of course, the money printer steals it all. Then if the market grows 10x in the meantime it can sort of (but not really) mask the gigantic labor destruction that happened, but still labor destruction it is.Automation favors the incumbent and existing capital. Everyone else will get fucked. It is already happening. And AI is the ultimate, universal automation. Being a creator? For fucks sake wake up and smell the coffee, this is feudalism with absolute centralized control. Why do you think they're scrambling to place a camera on every street even in bumfuck nowhere? They know you're not gonna like what's gonna come next, and they sure as fuck don't want to get Luigied.
>>539351569Nigger do you think using AI to program means they’re just pressing play after submitting a prompt? Fucking retard niggers I swear
>>539335276>a nobody AI slop indie game dev claims every dev on earth is using AInobody with a job is going to watch a talk from this guy in the first place.
>>539351637Ask any vibe coder and they'll say yes.Come on, this isn't new tech, we should expect the market to be flood with AI slop by now.
>>539351749Yeah nah you’re retarded nigger glad your field is dead in 2 years max
>>539350514>are absolutely smoking professional devs on actual competition level problemEasy when it has already been trained on the problems or similar ones.>Also, more than 1000 outstanding unproven math theorems have been either proved or disproved by AI this year.Theorems? no, it just finds new proofs or solutions for known problems with well defined bonds. Mathematicians give AI the bonds and constraints to define the search space for the AI, without that, LLMs cannot do shit.I use AI too, but i hate when you faggots come with sensationalist bullshit.
imaginebuyingshitty$70gamesin2k26when life-changing <$20 indie games are out there waiting for you
>>539349849Most game developers are entitled parasites who cry about having to make a game that they're getting paid for. And when they finally do get off their lazy asses, the games are shit anyway. Fuck video games.
>>539351637> Nigger do you think using AI to program means they’re just pressing play after submitting a prompt? It's getting to that point. It's just producing garbage of course, but it sort of works and it's no worse than what jeeted big companies push out nowadays. A jeet is cheap but its not free, and AI for as much as people are crying over credits and shit is still pretty much free. Where yesterday you needed a whole department of 200+ jeets to shit out your next garbage corpo software update, today you need maybe 10. The other 190 jobs are poof gone.This doesn't say in favour of AI and how good it is, it just talks about how software has gotten to pure absolute shit over the last 3 decades or so, and it's so bad in quality on average than even whatever garbage AI spits out today when unsupervised is still pretty much the same quality as what's produced by big corpos - for a fraction of a fraction of the cost.If you're a competent developer, AI is useful just as boilerplate generator/fill in the blanks, or as some sort of static analyzer on steroids. It's still useful, but it's not that magic tool that management seems to think it is. Maybe it will get to the point where it can really build something sensible, but as it is today I can't see that happening with the system it's on now. Still, 99% of "office" jobs are already today prime for AI replacement, it's just a question of when. Again, not because AI is good, but because those "office" jobs are just adult jewish kindergarten already.
>>539335782Jokes on you, I'm already cursed
>>539352081Yea it does the bulk of junk work and then you can go in and fix what doesn’t work. What’s insane to me is that preddit thinks this isn’t the common practice across the field and that they’re “winning a culture war” against the equivalence of a printing press
>>539351842Two more weeks.
>>539335782spooper spooky
>>539351054why? he could be a 3d modeller, animator, level designer etc and focus on that, letting AI handle the bulk of code
I'm a FAANG engineer, and Claude has completely taken over our workplace. It can write robust, performant code with the right guardrails. I feel like I'm training my replacement every day.
>>539348925is that hard? Doesnt sound like hpc stuff to me idk only have experience in writing stuff for numerical simulations. Kinda sounds like you just do erlang or scala. Trying to understand what AI is good at so far I saw it bad for parallel code.
>>539335276You can oppose it in principle and still use it Commercially. Of course retards don't understand how this is possible. After all where would we be if Jaquarius Johnson didn't tie a string to a stick in 1918 and we never would've had the Gibbons les Paul
>>539337705The invention of the camera didn't invalidate painting and painters. Just because the tool of expression changes, doesn't mean art isn't art. And this is just the art side. On the coding side, coding is a craft. Anything that can speed it up is and always has been a welcome improvement. You don't hear people complaining about compliers or higher level languages, do you? Just because you're not the one writing the assembly code your code is compiled down to doesn't make it any less legitimate.
>>539337624to be fair unity asset stores and what not were causing that long before AIslopa videogame industry crash is long due
>>539335276do they have their own gojslop AI?
>>539337654Steam is the number one gaming platform and it only promotes 400 games a year. 21,000 games released yearly and only 400 will make the developer more than what a mcdicks fry cook makes in a year. People only buy what goes viral on tiktok.
>>539335782I'm going to say the n word
This place really is just dead, and filled with chatbots now.No one who actually writes anything, thinks "AI" is in a state where it can be more than an easier way to check syntax needed to do something.Know how to prove that? Find me a single person who used AI to write a functional program someone was willing to pay money for.None of the shill shit where some guy "used AI" and then paid a programmer to fix the slop. An actual from beginning to end AI pipeline, it doesn't exist, if it did, some jeet would be spamming out literally thousands of "games" a second to try scamming zoomies out of their money.
>>539346704You're in the 50's computing era right now, when it comes to ai. Give it thirty-forty years, and the error rate for literally anything it does, will be at the zero stage.
>>539349572No
I bet those cheaters also use calculators to do math
>>539350480I am
AI is the ultimate corporate maneuver. All the jobs it's replacing are where people learn the basic skills to become the advanced people overseeing the AIs. They'll get to skip paying those people for one generation and then there'll be no one to replace the AI overseers.But that problem is further ahead than next quarter so who cares?
>>539351627You're one of those dudes who angrily shakes his fist at windmills, aren't you? Are you also against dudes using power tools?
>>539335782just in case you know haha
>>539335782AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Just got out of a meeting with fortune 500 company. AI, AI and more AI being adopted into their platforms. To make things easier for clients and employees. Its everywhere.But then I come to /pol/ and its "Nuhhh uhhh it cant do ANYTHING!!!! REEEEE" Like holy fuck you jobless fucking screeching creatures are wildly uneducated. You have no idea and you will never have any idea until its a robot bagging my fries instead of you. I cant wait, im tired of you disgusting niggers getting near my food. Cant wait, and you cannot do a damn thing to stop it. Post harder, then post harderererer. Thats all you got. KEK. See ya, retards. Post a bit harder?
>>539356243You better not
>>539353322That llms are being adopted is no shock, it is a complete corporate buzzword bingo.>reduce your work force>save costs>improve productivity>streamline>find new synergiesAs I said, no shock that managers are licking their lips and gulping it all down. The only real issue is that were it actually delivers on those point it also creates massive friction. Wont be shocked if many of the over spenders folds within a couple of years. However, that changes little since the tools/tech is here, and it will in all likelihood improve. Optimistic estimates would be that 90-95 % of IT workers will have to find something else to do within the next decades.That's why I'm thinking of going into bio-tech I think, maybe I can cross-breed corona with aids or something as a payback.
>>539357309First of all, none of that story is true. You obviously have autism or some kind of mood disorder and are invited to no meetings.Secondly, no one is arguing that retards arent adopting it. Some people just happen to notice that nothing new is being created and the quality of most things has gone down since the technology appeared.
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>>539358175Keksaved
>>539335276More reason to not buy video games in 2027 and going forward.
>>539335488>Quote "dey took yer jerb" when people complain about outsourcing and immigration>Make the telemetry bullshit that ensures people don't own physical media or items>Support mass surveillance >Expect sympathy when you're replaced by AIIDGAF about Judas beign unemployed. AI took yer jerb.
>>539335488>>539346547Why do you retards always come to these threads and lie about "programming" with AI? I have never in my life seen a non developer use AI to make anything significant you still need a degree of coding knowledge to debug and review the code made.
>>539335955Locally sourced AI from ComfyUI is sufficient. As long as you paid the upfront cost of an Nvidia GPU, you are good to go. Apparently people are using AI to assist in coding for Godot, the tranny game engine. Or you could let it grind its own engine SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>539358175>Wait a minute dolan. You're not gonna buy up subsidized farmland and build resource consuming data centers in them are you?
>>539335276No problem with AI coding.Problem is if the art, script, level design are AI slop.
>>539335276>I'm back from the ai game dev panel>everyone at the panel used AIWOW NO SHIT RETARD
>>539344731If it's better at coding, why do I still have to spend hours repairing the code?
>>539358510idk i was replaced by ai...
>>539351054Why? Because I don't know how to code I cant envision a good game? I don't know what makes games good? That's laughable. Coding is the wall I csnt scale. I can write a story, I can develop characters, I can decide mechanics and UI, I just can't code. You're the one with the low IQ.
>>539352796Leave the frog to his sour grapes. Sounds like one of those "AI IS TAKING AWAY ART JOBS" types.
>>539335276>></g/Go back, wagie
>>539335782>t.
>>539358899You guys over exaggerate what AI can do for coding. When "game devs" like in the OP whine about AI in gaming they always are vague because 9/10 the AI used is replacing artists but they try to paint it as a broad stroke. AI is making that barrel and painting and other background assets you never notice and this is a good thing but people are retarded thinking a single non programming person can make a modern AAA or even AA game with AI.We are in what, year 3 I guess at this point of being told AI is going to replace Hollywood and game studios and not a single person has made a Hollywood quality movie or AAA game with AI yet. I am not saying AI can't do smaller things, in fact that is my argument and AI is being overblown
>>539359401I've been programming for over 30 years now. Attention isn't all we need, but as an absolute retard when it comes to UI and design, AI is a good thing. Hell, even LLMs are a good thing, too.There's this manager of a manager of mine who drools about AI and uses web fronted apps made using AI as an example of rapid development. To which, I can only say that it doesn't mean that LLMs are above Turing, it only means that web development isn't.I've seen a tester using Claude to analyse logs and to write bug descriptions - they sucked, but it was an improvement. I've also seen a fellow dev using it to troubleshoot a double dtor call of an object defined in a shared library. Pretty obvious in a hindsight, but hey, it helped him.It's fascinating to see people abusing a simple transfomer to do seemingly logical things.
>>539350426>using Visual Studio would make someone a worse programmerThat's true though. Visual Studio is bloated mess. Not as much as Android studio, because that's ultimate bloatware, but still. If you want to use anything with visual studio in its name, use Visual Studio Code.
>>539335488Those are the people who are being proven to be cheaper than the ai. Infustructure code needs the large code base ins cope which sky rockets token costs.
>>539359401I'm mostly trying to get the ai to code the game so it functions. I can supply assets and the like. I want to tell the ai to "make a functional 7 choice menu and have each choice have 7 more choices" or something like that. I'm aware I'll need to go over it and make sure everything works, but I would like something to be made so I can test it myself. I can't code for shit and I don't have the time, energy, or money to learn. I can make a cool story tho, I can think of cool mechanics I'd like to see in a game, I can even visualize how I want the game to look. I'm aware ai can't do everything, but I'm asking if told it to make, say "a copy of fallout 4 gameplay" so I could edit it to my liking, could it do that?
>>539344731Has AI made a virus that humans can't block or fix?
>>539335368AI would mostly be fine in my opinion, only if turd worlders and pajeets weren't also using it en masse to make endless garbage rather than fine tuning and simply using it for inspiration
>>539335782Spooky
>>539360461There was a 2000 line source file that had a few lines of incorrect log outputs in it somewhere. I used AI and it found them all in 30 seconds.
>>539335368>No different than photoshopI still remember when digital art wasn't real art.Now digital artists are butthurt about AI.It's funny.
