why there's so much suffering and hatred in this world? why is every living being (not just humans), like this? i know that nature is indifferent anyway, but... why is that? i don't understand why everything is the way it is, and when will all of it finally stop? it's sad:(
>>539337229>why there's so much suffering and hatred in this world?Aliens on moon love it that way. Our suffering is there candy.
I think I was 13 when I understood that love isn’t actually real, that’s when the happiness faded
>>539337229any form of life that requires energy to sustain itself will inherently be advocating for its own ends. probably the worst offenders of this are socialists who even talk about their platform like some kind of messiah thing, when in reality they just want to siphon peoples energy into their own programs.
>>539337229Because people reject Christ.Christ teaches that the kingdom of heaven is within and the kingdom of heaven is at hand. We can create a paradise here on Earth as it is in heaven. But to do that we must follow Christ and do as he taught.
>>539337273maybe they've already united n overcome all societal problems, we still haven't and we are like in the 21st century...
>>539337229the earth is satans realm
>>539337229It’s personalized just for you.
J and/or N
>>539337277yeah, but if love isn't real then that's even the point in liking/loving stuff then? is it all truly meaningless? n im not trying to be nihilistic or sum, but i just don't know what's the point of life, of us, of every single being here..
>>539337229Well youre not cut out for this world anon
>>539337288maybe, but everything is still very confusing.
>>539337326>>539337330but why does God allows this much suffering? if he were to be there, wouldn't he be able to stop everything bad in this world, no?
>>539337383You don't have get all weepy and hug stuff to love it. To love the world is to simply allow it to exist without justification or reason. Accepting things as they are and acknowledging they exist and the fact you can't change them. The minds ego will always need definition and explanation even when it turns backward. Once you loosen that it gets easier to see the world for what it is. It's just stacked systems that mirror each other in a fractal pattern from the bugs under a rock to the human going to church.
>>539337431people tend to look at plants and think of them as being in harmony with nature, but what does that mean? not a whole lot, because roots compete for space. at the end of the day, we exist to consume energy and need energy to survive. this automatically means we are in competition. now add sex into the mixture and you get even more competition. basically our existence revolves around eating and fucking, and these things have always been competitive.
>>539337354>>539337368possibly, but i am just wondering why all of those stuff even happen(ed) in the first place, i should maybe go outside more j touch grass desu, being in nature would be better, but also rly scared for the near future, i don't want this planet to end up like the one in Blade Runner.
>>539337463God doesn't allow suffering. Creation requires destruction. Its a loop. Suffering is a human label nothing more. Suffering is just feeling. Feeling is like the prime directive of the human organism. Most are just afraid to.
>>539337229>suffering and hatredthat's a human concept. the world is exactly how it should be
>>539337229because there are some people who like to rape and eat your kids
>>539337229
>>539337514so i should just accept that i cant change everything and focus on things that are enjoyable to me? but you're right, i cant change everything bad that's happening rn.. wars, genocides, murders, rapes, etc etc, and I've seen lots of bad stuff throughout life, it's just that i was taught to be kind with everything and everybody, that kindness is the key n that it'll resolve everything, but as i grew up, i saw that the actual real world is instead built on selfishness and greediness, and i am aware that not everybody will treat me the same way i treat them, not everybody is kind like me, im just sorry for being this kind and naive for this world:(
>>539337563That's a really stupid evasion you know
>>539337524>around eating and fuckingyeah well, we sometimes forget that we still animals at the end of the day, but i don't rly feel this way, life shouldn't just be limited to evolution & competition, cuz nature is indifferent, right? she doesn't have the concepts of what's good and what isn't, meaning we shouldn't just be limited to that... she can't say yes or no, she just is.
>>539337563so how does one stop suffering completely?
>>539337659>>539337689if they were to be gone, would everything bad just stop?
>>539337592>the world is exactly how it should bebut why, if nature can't say yes or no, why it should just be like that? ik im trying to apply human concepts, but i never had an answer as to why nature it's that indifferent to everything inside it?
>>539337902No, only 99.999% of it
>>539337395i rarely leave my house, so you may be right, i cant rly face the raw and true world, it's just very diff from what I've expected.
>>539337823thats because you have a higher than average IQ. and its the great curse of mankind to have reason but still have biology.
>>539337970well, there wouldn't be any more wars n genocides, and selfishness and greediness will gradually began to disappear, but they are just only group.
Jews.
>>539337229most people are just dumb and soullessthis could be fine, if they also believed in godbut, like, if they do, they think god serves them, not the other way around
>>539337229Honestly believe majority of problems are because of the jews.
>>539338001maybe alot cuz i haven't interacted w that many ppl both on here n irl, even now im still so anxious about what'll people say, but im open to any opinions, be it positive or negative ones.
>>539337955>im trying to apply human concept that's the problem. when you view the world through the eyes or minds of a life you are adding human labels like suffering and indifference to something that has none. if humans didnt exist to label it what would it be? just blind processes running. physics biology and cycles with no meaning attached. no good no bad no why. it simply is.
>>539337229Jews
>>539338032>>539338098you're right, i got many replies saying that it's just them and i agree, but im still clueless as to how they just managed to pull it? like since idk when, the ancient times perhaps? idk their history that very well, so i cant say anything abt sum that i have zero research on, i think im too lazy to do anything at this point.
>>539337592>the world is exactly how it should beThat's not true, the source of 99% of suffering in the world comes from a group of people who cause it willingly, without them the remaining 1% could be dealt with. There is no benefit to their presence at all.
>>539337229Bruh you're in hell and Satan is challenging all of us. Why would the Devil explain to everyone why they are suffering? He's the Devil after all, the ultimate source of evil, and we are feeding him our pain and misery.
>>539338189>im still clueless as to how they just managed to pull it? Because Whites wrongly assume that because we wouldn't stoop to levels of malicious depravity, that other races wouldn't either.
>>539338123yeah, if we were to not exist, then such labels wouldn't have obviously existed in the first place, it was always like, like this planet has five mass extinctions and yet, life was still is.. maybe that's one of the cons of having higher intelligence, you try to give everything possible a meaning, an beginning and and ending, a story worth being, but it was always that, im just overthinking too much, srry.
>>539337902Some people would still get cancer but not billions of vaxxies, just people living near natural sources of radiation or somethingBirth defects would happen way less, autism tooWe would just go to war with cunts like India instead of hiring them. Men need a reason to join an army other than money otherwise its a mercenary group.Lots of things are downstream of their influence
>>539337229Jews are responsible.
>>539337326lmao, I rejected a jewish fairy tale from the middle east that was invented 2,000 years ago, so thats why living beings have suffered for billions of yearsFuck. You.
>>539337563>blah blah blah no counter argument>(walks away)
>>539337229God gave us free will and humans are evil by nature
>>539338323unironically, the only ppl that have treated me bad when i treated them good were gypps (and ones that also physically attacked me numerous times), at that time i didn't rly think that it has any correlation, but it does, all the others that have treated me good were Whites, i was was simply too naive to realize much earlier, but it's alr.
>>539337326Christ is king of the jews btw lmao
>>539337229Because this is the imperfect realm of the Demiurge.
>>539337229human nature. on one side you have psychotic retards who crave power. on the other side you have psychotic retards who crave having a leader to blindly obey.what is a normgroid's most terrible and unthinkable fear? being left to their own devices. a breakdown of "the system" would HAVE to yield a new hierarchy!
>>539338583so if we'll remove the human nature, we'll stop becoming humans and something else? like what it actually be done about it.
>>539337229Your fabricated standard of confort has planted these unnatural moral metrics in you, you are creating the problem, the problem isn’t external. When a fox eats a rabbit that just reflects as caloric exchange in the environment, even the psychic aspect of it is caloric, bound by thermodynamics. It looks cruel to you because you’ve created “cruel” and you’ve put “cruel” in there. When the rabbit eats it experiences joy and when it gets eaten it experiences suffering, and none of it is merciful nor cruel, all that is in you.
>>539337848You don't anon. It's simply not possible. Suffering bring you closer to God. One must wrestle with it. Question it. Curse the sky and even god itself. It's like Job. Doesn't matter how much pressure is applied the point is to not leave the conversation. Don't be afraid to cry. Really cry. That's something humans are trained to withhold because it's seen as childish and weakness but I promise you if you let the fire inside burn through you and allow the flood to come you won't feel better but you be more open to the possibility that maybe you're looking at things wrong. No matter what anyone says the human chooses it's suffering so the only way is to reframe it into something from which you can create.
>>539338646selective breeding, genetic modification, etc. is the only hope of changing things.
>>539337229mainly the jews
>>539337229(Un)fortunately anon, you're merely projecting your own misery. The default state of a healthy organism is bliss. You're just too traumatized and poisoned to feel this. Most animals are not. The masses of living beings in our planet live in perpetual joy and euphoria. Go listen to a bird signing for no reason and tell me it's not true.
>>539338023They facilitate all the other groups. You’ll find once (((they))) disappear the other groups stop pouring in, and more than that, it suddenly doesn’t matter about being ‘racist’. You have no idea what we would be capable of. We deport them all. We could acknowledge that they are different and understanding the reality of the situation create a segregation system that is actually beneficial for them as well.
>>539337229Don’t be a fag. Follow this one rule and you’ll be fine.
>>539338646Empathy is part of human nature too, to write it off as all bad is a major cop-out and often a projection of the accuser
>>539338690ik that, but it still saddens me that it is like this, you can't just change nature and there is that, sry for being this insensitive:(
>>539338826Animals aren't capable of self reflection nor do they have an ego whispering malaise into their mind.
>>539337229>3dcgi globetard babbling about sufferingFirst things first, lets start with dinosars didnt existed, atomic bombs/weapons are fake, how much do we really know about oil and its products, and uhmmmm sweaty, the globe model sure as hell is fake and gay
>>539337229It's actually beautiful and amazing. Most people are good. Most places are beautiful.
>>539338731I'm not crying but i don't wanna suffer, who likes to suffer, eh anon?:(
>>539338870They’re not happy and playful either. Almost no animals are known to pointlessly play. The bird songs are alerting for predators or looking for mates. The squirrels are obviously paranoid and frantic their entire existence. They are all constantly desperate on the fringe of survival, hunting and foraging to stay alive and running from monsters everywhere trying to eat them. It is no way a blissful existence.
>>539338927Joy cannot exist without suffering though. Removing dualistic dynamics would make reality collapse into "nothingness".
>>539338826as other anons have said, it's that im too sensitive for this world, n that i just couldn't face it irl, but ill go outside:)
>>539338412I really would love to be there as that guy got eaten alive by a bear so I could say "suffering is just a word bro, it's just a label, don't worry!"
>>539338968true, but i mostly want to be happy, or it's that i want everything else to be like that, but no matter how much i keep trying n trying, i simply can't, im just one person in this world and i cant have it be all free of suffering.
>>539338870Self-reflection is a surface level phenomenon compared to the physiological bliss of a healthy nervous system. A negative and assertive ego certainly is a reflection of the latter though, a symptom of a sick and imbalanced system. All organisms are designed to experience a certain, perpetual baseline level of bliss.
Stuck on a prison planet overseen by the moon people? Ascension to Whiteness is the only way out? Just don't be a dick and your so called life will be fine
>>539338860it's not complicated but it rly feels that is, you can't change everything and that's totally fine, but you can start from the very bottom with the ppl n animals around u, idk:(
>>539338999It’s a well worn sci-fi trope that a higher intelligence alien would view our suffering as utterly insignificant just as we do the suffering of ants. You’ve certainly heard this before. So it’s unfathomable how you wouldn't comprehend this in the context of God, by definition an incomprehensibly larger intelligence. You have to be deliberately obtuse or just being emotional like a female, letting your bad feelings over the bad things make you abandon logic
>>539338877i just used that image cuz it looks cool, didn't said in what i or not what the shape of this planet is, but it's fine cuz i take in negative opinions too.
>>539337229I mean to survive we have to devour other life. Pretty fucked when you think about it
>>539338910i know, ill try to be more positive w everything (as that im not already), but i feel a bit negative rn cuz i barely have slept n idk what to do next, so i made this thread to js talk w ppl n see what they believe in too, ik i cant please everybody and that's okay, i just can't.. even if i rly wanted to.
>>539339221which we are already doing, n idk what'll happen when there will be barely any animals left.
>>539339175I know its over the top irony xd by the way its enkidu from fate series. If ure young judging by your posts u are well.. hang in there broski, fun shithole of a realm we live in
>>539339157I love ants
>>539339221We do way more damage exterminating other life just to make ourselves comfortable. That’s what houses, cities, roads, factories are. Eating is a small part of how we kill. Giving up everything and being a feral carnivore in the woods would be far less destructive to life than going vegan
>>539339325yeah well it's alr:)
>>539339534right, as more megacities/megaregions will be formed, wilderness will start diminishing more n more till there'll be any left at all.
>>539339312What I meant is the whole basis of life to hurt and kill. That's the only way we can survive, by taking life so what do you think this planet's gonna be like? Of course there's gonna be war and all types of fucked up shit going on. At least humanity has empathy and can maybe improve the condition over time
>>539337229Satan not bounded yet; endure
>>539337229Satan has been permitted temporary dominion over this world. Why? The completeness of it is beyond my understanding, but we can't grow without struggling. We can't be a light pushing back darkness if there is no darkness. We're allowed to come to the end of ourselves facing wickedness from outside and inside to cry out in need of a savior. Feel strongly about how that's not fair? Maybe that's a godly conviction within you to do something about the problems you see.
>>539337229Simplest answer, we want things without being mature enough to handle them, we lack the self-control, skills and right mindset for them and turn every good thing into crap, oldest story in the book.
>>539337229THE BIRDS DON'T SING THEY SCREECH IN PAIN
>>539337288Yup
>>539337229solar system's largest plantation
>>539339833so we don't end up w this planet looking like picrel by 2040 and devoured of all nature n animals.
>>539337229zealous righteousness prevents people from constructing a system that by design allows people they disargee with, to do what their culture needs in a zone controlled by that culture. people are too ignorant to realize that, they, too, are disagreeable, and therefore also would be entitled to a region where they can define the parameters of existence. every culture wants to enforce their version of a monoculture on everyone, but we should collectively as humans desire to create infinite containers for infinite cultures to self-determine without outgroup intervention.
>>539343842but it's still so embarrassing that we are in the literal 21st century n we are more divided than ever, with this thing we'll just be on this planet forever till we make it into a one big city (an ecumenopolis), or we just nuke ourselves out of this existence entirely, what can i say more... genuinely disappointed in humanity:/
>>539344025i agree, but if u try to remember what i said above, you may find that it does infact lay out both the problem and solution, and if enough people adopt such a concept it can compete with alternative methods of existence
>>539344415it can, but ppl js need to stop being npcs so alt ways can be tried.
>>539344025humans are just dumb animals that unfortunately have "intelligence", which makes us able to have knowledge of our own deaths, and this is why you see the world as it is now. stop having any sort of hope for humans. there is none.
>>539337277Love is real and directly observable
>>539344415There are no alternative “methods of existence” so there’s no competition. This whole “dumb people need to get smarter and everything will get fix” narrative is a copout. The smartest person is bound by the same existential principles the dumbest person is.
>>539344751and the even stranger thing is why was i even born as one? i mean i do know that that's cuz of my ancestors n the ancestors of those were human, but there r like idk how many quadrillion species of insects n million more of animals, yet it just wasn't to be, it's still weird that i can js do things seemingly... but do other humans see like me, think like me, etc etc? like we all see in first person, no? and just that, it isn't like being in games n seeing sum kind of HUD that shows whatnot or sum when in first person, and we can just think like that, idk how to explain it's js a bit weird for me
>>539343804Have you seen a nature documentary? You want nature, the Brutish and short nature?
>>539337229We're not on a planet, gypsy
>>539337229The only reason you feel this way is because you’re viewing an objective world through a subjective lens; because of this, you are not living in the Tao.
>>539337229It won't stop because there is no reason for it to stop, as subjects to reality it is very hard to meaningfully improve upon flawd design.The only good in the world is humanity and only reasoning humans can make it genuinely better, not the moral ones necessarily.Both immoral reasoners and moral nonreasoners tend to make the world worse, so be sure to value reasoning or you can't affect the world at all; immoral nonreasoners are irrelevant to the suffering of the world as they cannot really affect it.And only genuinely reasoning people with genuine morals unerringly try to alter the world for the better.Most pretentious morons think they belong to that latter group but almost always belong to the two that make it worse
>>539345292i don't use leddit (or any other social media for that matter anymore), but there's this subreddit called r/natureismetal, n there's only vids of animals killing eachothers in the worst way possible n as somebody who loves animals, it was rly hard to watch such vids, but how indifferent nature is overall, for her that isn't cruel or bad, but for the animals that are getting mutilated and ripped one by one by their predators, they were suffering alot, idk if the picrel (or this one) that i posted would be any better tho... like would u rly want to live in a world where nature n animals are nonexistent (n the ones that do "exist", r actually synthetic/artificial ones), where megablocks that are so massive n wide that they entirely block the Sun during the "day" (where u will just see lots of smog n glow yellowish lighting from the never ending, 24/7 lighting n advertisment neons), so u will just see a wave of these structures scattered across the megacity, so yea... idk if this is any better
>>539345371>>539345489yes I've figured that out already, n idk how to feel about it.
>>539345705we can be better sure, but it's just that most simply don't, or never ever care at all, there's good too ofc, i mean im feeling alright now cuz i just went outside n got that fresh breath of air:)
>>539337463kingdom of heaven isn’t on earth
>>539346490so how where it is and how can we access it, after we die or...? it's dying required in order to reach it or?
>>539346562in order to get there you either face gods judgement or have jesus absolve you of your sins
>>539337229>why there's so much suffering and hatred in this world?Original Sin, mankind always have a tendency to commit evil
>>539337229Because we are the source of our own suffering. Behind every form of suffering we face another human was behind it.
>>539337229You're just being pessimistic. There's suffering, but also joy. There's harred, but also love and understanding.Be more specific and wonder who is causing the "evil". The truth is that there is an answer and, for better or worse, the way to improve the world is to take action and stop the sources of evil.Now, you've gotta be careful and clear minded, because the "who" is not always obvious and there's lots of issues to solve. Just focus on those in front of you and make a difference for your circle/reach. If everyone did the same, evil would be erradicated.
>>539345050>Why am I human?>Why was I born?>Why am I like I am?No point in wondering why facts are what they are. Find cause for how they happened and marvel at the impossibility of it all. We are all statistic miracles (almost as gay as being made of stardust, i know).What matters most is what you do with what you've got and how it makes other lives better (and thus your own).It's all really simple. All life, and matter in general, are defined by how it relates to other life and matter. You are able to decide how to relate to some, do what you think is best.
>>539337229Because GOD wills it, he wants us to fight one another. Nature is all about competition.
>>539337229>i know that nature is indifferentYet, you don't know how to properly format the first letter of a sentence, odd.
>>539347507>>539347753im alr it's that i was a bit down earlier, but im fine:)
>>539349285Im glad. You go quite deep, its goot to beeathe every now and then.You wrote a lot so I couldn't reply much, but i do wanted to recommend reading some pseudo-science and psychological theories. Thungs like morphogenetic fields and hivemind subliminal expressions are interesting and harmless to research.Best of luck :)
>>539337229>when will all of it finally stop?in 2046 when the sun micronovas. the micronova of the sun means total extinction for every lifeform on earth.
>>539337229Life is a punishment
>>539337229Because people allowed pedophile cannibal occultist lineages to amass all the power into their hands over the years
>>539337463>why does God allows this much suffering?Because God isn't real.
>>539337229>i know that nature is indifferent anyway,You're part of nature and you don't seem indifferent to it.> i don't understand why everything is the way it isYou don't want to really know, because the only way to know is to understand, when you understand, you will loose your innocence.Basically humanity is just evil.
>>539338495Wrong, zoomer. Jesus Christ IS God.
>>539337229>why there's so much suffering and hatred in this world?Because men make bad choices because good choices are difficult to achieve.
>>539338392Suffering is an inevitable consequence of rejecting God because you’re rejecting the fundamental essence of yourself.
>bible thumping christcringe infesting the thread
>>539337229whites and jewsFTFY
This planet is a school where newly sentient being learn how to get along with one another. It sucks here because you were only just born, but it gets better after this life. Memory works in such a way due to the properties of information that the first experiences a being has imprint on them, and so the suffering you experience here will act as an eternal reminder of what-not-to-do. The implication is that we will one day be in a position to potentially act like a Jew for example ourselves, and by remembering our suffering under them, we can make better decisions.
