>average german employee earns €50,000 gross/year Income tax: ~12–15%Pension insurance: ~9.3%Health insurance: ~8–9%Unemployment insurance: ~1.3%Long-term care insurance: ~2%>net salary goes down to €31,500–32,500/yearGermany's VAT is 19% food is often 7%the average household therefore pays an effective VAT of roughly 7–10% of remaining income>about €28,000 remainmandatory TV/radio fee: €220/yearnow comes electric with:electricity taxVATgrid chargesrenewable energy financingconcession feesfor an average apartment this easily means around €300–700/year in embedded taxes and government charges.>down to 27,000€fuel is roughly half taxes: average would be €1,000/yearcar tax €100–300/year>you end up with €26,000€/ yearthe government took almost half your incomebut that's not all...rent €12,000utilities €2,400internet + phone €600food €4,200public transport / car maintenance €2,000clothing & essentials €1,200total about €22,000>you now have €4,000/per year to do with as you wish
>>539342990>you now have €4,000/per year to do with as you wishThis is no3 in the world, world sucks.
>>539342990but youre aryan,no? :))
Solution: Have 5 minijobs as a independent, never declare an income
>>539343082gdb means absolutely nothing
How much does the Somali family staying home watching tv get from that salary?
>>539342990>>average german employee earns €50,000 gross/yearI got my msc recently and was offered a job. They told me 49k . I would have rejected that if I wasnt that desperate. Life is down the shitter I think I will just look to move elsewhere.
>>539342990just perform schwartzarbeit and claim gibs. tilt the scales in your favour
>>539342990This is why I steal.
>>539343203>>539343203how about working in germany as a dentist?
>>539342990that's kinda like binland, except salaries are lower and taxes higher here (25.5% VAT ftw)
>>539343203Go sell LSD to Israeli tourists in India. I was making 300$ a day most days. I really made bank in India. Especially during lockdown when there was nothing to do and everyone wanted to trip out.
>>539342990>rent €12,000Jesus christ that's so cheap. You guys don't realize how good you have it
>>539343189Nothing. It gets added to the national debt and enters GDP growth as positive number
>>539342990fucking germans, they love to plan petty stuff
>>53934343812k rent on 28k net income is quite shit anon idk what you are smoking.
>>539342990why didn’t you spend this time to figure out how to earn more instead? 50k gross is obviously not much
>>539343438Australian pricing is weird. You guys can't do direct comparisons against them.
>>539342990I earn 80k+/year and its still not enough to live a comfortable life. Taxes are way too high. Ignore flag currently on a short vacation.
>>539342990At least you speak German
but at least housing is cheaphttps://www.engelvoelkers.com/de/en/exposes/6f41403e-d8a4-51a8-ae1b-0055409f86f1
>>539343438100 square feet broom closet where the stairs smell like weed and heroin btwno AC or elevators, we don't do that in germany
>>539343923>no AC or elevators, we don't do that in germanyOk, that's pretty unacceptable
>>539343766>paying taxes>in 2026you have only yourself to blame, being a wage cage faggot getting automatically extorted by your loylist employer
>>539344009>>539343923hey at least youre aryan :)))
>>539343203I started at 50k in Munich, which was bottom-feeder tier considering those rents. 8 years later I'm at 100k.You have to work your way up.
>>539342990because the majority of the population does not perform any productive work and is just living the life of a parasite.bürgi isn't even the biggest issue with that, all the fucking bureaucrats who get paid fat wages to either do nothing, or to try and hinder you while you're trying to do your job leave a way bigger negative footprint.the amount of fucking documentation I have to produce at work which no one will ever read is suicide-tier.
>>539344206>>539344244ooo the ss officers are here to clarify :))
>>539342990Still better than asstonia
>>539344244>fucking bureaucrats who get paid fat wages>fucking bureaucrats who get paid fat wages>fucking bureaucrats who get paid fat wagescannot be overemphasised enough. there are 5 mitfahrers for every 1 productive worker/entrepreneur at least and they keep pushing more regulations to justify their jobs.
>>539342990Just do it like me and earn 100k/year. Still fucking depressing after tax. But very livable income. I also basically live in social housing which I got by bribing the property manager. My fix cost is laughable:400e rent30e for internetI can walk to work200e food per month7.99e for phoneThat's is. I save a shitload of money despite 1 income household and 2 little kids. I will use said money to buy a hose once my job requires mento travel less. Stay mad loosers.
>>539344244dieseswhen people say that the state being like half the gdp might be a bad idea, they have no idea that even in the free-market-maxxer KMU butzen it feels like half the staff is officially there to keep the state off your assand half the work the "do that thing which our business actually does"-roles perform is also because of state interventionafter 10x the hourly price of a software developer was agreed upon (because of everything being lost on the way to commies), what does he implement? fucking agb sections, privacy dances, append-only logging so the tax niggers can fuck you over for it in five decades, accessibility regulation shit on websites which nobody will ever fucking needand maybe a little bit on fridays for the core business
>>539343264Dentist isnt something you learn within 3 weeks in a shed somewhere in the woods like in romania, anon.
You counted VAT multiple times retard
>>539345046it takes longer to be a dentist here than in little germanica
>>539343082Only Chinese GDP is real, because they are actually producing things.US is all AU bubble, lawsuit litigation costs, onlyfans and speculation.Germany's is all recycling of gibs money spent on refugee who then go to Aldi and Lidl to buy booze, which makes said grocery store owners the richest since COVID. And no, German cars are dead.
thank god i found this thread i was worried there’d be no daily Germany derangement syndrome threadhi mom! look i am posting on teh interwebs!
>>539345046Romanians learn that way, though...
>>539344591>I also basically live in social housing which I got by bribing the property manager.why are gr**ks like this
>>539345308It's a thread about Germany, I'm German. Just abroad at the moment.
>>539342990>but that's not all...You forgot 1k€ a month for the gf.
>>539344244papers please >:)
>>539342990jokes on you. i havent had a legal job in decades :)have fun paying for shitskins and faggots lmao
in romania youre forced to get married by society especially as a man herr hirsch so the costs double imagine also getting an ugly fat and or stupid woman on your name unwillingly! its reality here
>>539345046>3 weeksTop kek. The only thing you need to learn to work as a dentist in germany is tell you don’t have any available spots for appointments.
>>539343382Where the fuck are you getting LSD in India? The drug scene there is non-existent.
>>539345288Germany is a deindustialized shithole.You can't even build ACs and have to buy Chinese made ones.
>>539342990>>you now have €4,000/per year to do with as you wishI'm on welfare and too lazy to work.My disposable income is over 10k per year after all expenses.
>>539347196do a little bit of schwarzarbeit. i work like 3 or 4 days a month and get to like 2k with buergi. these retards even pay pauschalmiete wich includes a supply of wood for heating and electricity lmao
>>539342990Don't tell me what i know, tell me how to escape? Selbstständigkeit?
The secret is to work less so they can take less
>>539347590there is no escape wagefag. you stop paying and this country burns.lay down work and join us.
>>539342990You only pay 7% VAT on food?
>>539347188rent free :)
>>539347966our food prices doubled since bullshit 19. i bet yours too.but people dont complain instead they say oh it was way too cheap anyway!
>>539348097eating meat is unironically looked upon like smoking cigarettes now
>>539348158Lol, maybe in "progressive" cities. Not in the countryside.Life is fine if you take care of yourself and not rely on others for literally everything (cityfags)
lol, I promise you the Netherlands is way worse.
>>539348245no trust me this cancer is spreading everywhere. i literally live on a small mountain innawoods as rural as you can get in germany. they are also building refugee camps here.
I make 15k/year on disability income. After mortgage and living costs I pretty much break even.I live like my grandparents but with internet. When looking around me I seem to live a comfy life (apart from the disability) compared to all those poor millennials my age.Sad fuckers have to live with only 3 vacations a year after they bought their Tesla. How will they survive the inflation of their ultra processed foods? Grim times for the average population. Soon they wont be able to afford their 10-yearly new kitchen en bathroom.
>>539343203You think 49k is bad? People are currently told to ba glad if they get 30k and NEETs are told that 6.6k a year is luxury living.You haven't even reached the bottom yet and The BlackRot coalition will not come to help you, let alone the scammers that follow them. Pro Tip: Find a grift to make enough money so the capital beholden administrative class will cater to your every whim. Otherwise you will be ground down.
>>539348883for somebody with high education? Next year i will receive 75k, no bachelor, no team leader role, not even a 40 hour week.
>>539347754Is it you, John Galt?
>>539343999We have to bergsteigen and protect the klima!I don't like elevators tho, scarry
>>539350042i probably finally should read that one. it is embarrassing i used to be a book trader.