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>makes american manufacturers seethe in jealousy
lol amerimutt car manufacturers are so behind they have to ban any and all Chinese tech from being imported because they cant compete
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>>539347953
>The future of america is over priced inferior garbage produced locally by h1b slaves beings forced on everyone by government decree
Hilariously jewish, isnt it?
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>>539347953
God I want a nio es8 for family car and a yangwang for a daily.
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>>539347953
We don’t let them in cause we understand having domestic manufacturing is important. If they get sold here China will subsidize like it s a war to try and kill domestic. Once they kill the domestic the prices go back up and we are stuck with hot garbage.
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>>539348889
You have a healthy car industry?
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>>539348940
Yeah?
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>>539347953
Chinese EV's wouldn't exist if Tesla didn't engineer all the technology first for them to steal.
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>>539349062
Tesla gave away its patents for free. Explain that.
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>>539349062
Get over it. They stole, improved it, and made it affordable for everyone.

Kikes wouldn’t do that
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>>539348885
mutt moans
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One thing I don't quite understand about the modern world is why rich countries want to get rid of manufacturing.
Once you no longer have industry, what are you actually going to produce? Movies and TV shows about interracial lesbian couples with vitiligo?
Isn't it safer to be building the things people need to sustain civilization than to spend your whole life trying to sell services and entertainment?
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>>539347953
the vehicle is an impersonation. Much like everything else China manufactures by ignoring intellectual property.
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>>539347953
>surveillance cameras in the rear view mirror
>black box recording telemetry and broadcasting it to the manufacturer and law enforcement services
>exorbitant price tag with shit modern aesthetics and a "I wanna be like Europe" design philosophy
No thank you, it's not worth getting a driving license for.
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>>539347953
Not durable and will kill you in a crash
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>>539349412
Its not "rich countries", its private companies, private parties that are not controlled by the country are offshoring work. These companies don't belong to the country and the country is not "theirs", they don't have any reason to invest on it or in the well being of the people. Actually, if a rich nation becomes poorer, with worse labor conditions, less regulations, more corruption, they may get more profit for it.
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>>539348889
The government should work to make affordable cars for the people, not focus on enriching the 1%
China knows this and does this and that's why they are better
I don't care that Fords shareholders lose money. I care that the 99% can get better cheaper cars.
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>>539347953
Why did they copy the Lotus styling?
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>>539347953
That thing has abyssal reliance ratings even from Chinese consumers.
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>>539350367

Slants can't create they can only copy
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>>539347953
>Chinese crap steel
>falls apart in 2-3 years.
Nah thanks.
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>>539350367
Wolfgang Egger designed it.
He did the Alfa Romeo 8C, 156, 166 and 147 before moving to Audi where he was head of design and became responsible for both Audi and Lamborghini designs.
He's been at BYD since 2017.
Gotta give the Chinese credit, they got one of the best automotive designers to create every single car they've designed, including that thing.
My first thought looking at it was "Tesla S meets Porsche".
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>>539347953
I like it. It's nice.

The problem is that the west refuses to innovate and instead goes for profit-maxxing by reducing quality and reducing wages to 0 by brown-maxxing society (I know, how dare I speak antisemitism).

China is pulling ahead because it's 100% Chinese and doesn't artificially limit itself by giving greedy bankers and boomers infinite capital to squander.
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>>539347953
Lol, fresh wumao droppings.
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>>539352821
You're a fucking moron leaf.
Look at the real estate bubble in china.
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>>539352925
Their real estate bubble naturally collapsed instead of being artificially inflated to infinity. That's called "the market working". They didn't just print money with QE and had people like Larry Fink buy up properties to make the price go up even further on top of importing infinity jeets.

You lose again, mutt.
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>>539347953
>i want a gay faggot ev cuck car
you should kill yourself
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>>539353043
Do tell me about your pure canadian blood.
You're a useul idiot, congrats.
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>>539350206
It is literally illegal to not care about the shareholders. But protesting Dodge vs. Ford will never go viral because (((reasons))).
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>>539353106
>haha my stick house is worth infinity goy coins
>It's my big investment owned by the bank that I'm paying a mortgage on.
>Payment due to Tel Aviv.
Ohhh see can weee seeee. Shaaart in the Wallmaaaart. With Flooock caameras weee sneeed. In our stick houssees owned by BlackRock...
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>>539349062
>steal
Umm sweety, ELona mde all his electric car tech open source back when he was a lib https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/1060001258
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>>539353212
Lol, the wumao is upset.
No police state in china is there wang?
Let's all eat some gutter oil bat soup and wait for the execution van?
China's so wondeful right?
Is that why they have anti suicide nets outside their hellish factories?
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>>539347953
I want to rove you (B.Y.D.)
Bletty young ding
You're need some rovin' (T.R.C.)
Tendel rovin' cale
And I'rr take you thell, girl, ooh-oh
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For me, it's Mahindra.
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>>539349000
Hahaaaa American are funny.
>>539349515
Ip is jewish BS.
>>539349412
Cyclical, more developed countries will pursue decadence until their superiority gets checked and they realize they need to go back to producing actual value instead of ugly nigger filled disney shows.

The best way to jump start is not protectionism, is letting retards realize that wall of death and starvation never went away.
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>>539352752
Fords fall apart in one year
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>>539353106
>Resort to "bet you're not white" cope
Your amerimutt flag means you're most likely 30% spic or nigger anyways
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>>539353433
Don't worry, fatty. I'm not Chinese. You need to get on the Ozempic since your brain is clogged with pure goyslop.

You know I'm right about the west becoming a total disaster.

But clearly places like Paris are filled with the French and isn't Africa 2.0, right? Clearly there's no problem with your senate being controlled by Ashkenazis with 0 loyalty to the US.

No. America is still white!
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>>539353761
Nah, you're just a useful idiot. What a victory for your pure canadian blood
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>>539352806
Kraut qnd chink alliance will be the actual fucking 4th Reich. Screen shot this.
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>>539353749
Since you're a vpn nigger it doesnt matter what you say.
That's like being a memeflaggot, you're too much of a coward to even go by your country flag.
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>>539353571
>Ip is jewish BS.
Stealing people's ideas for yourself is actually what is quintessentially jewish. You sound brown
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>>539347953
Almost all new cars suck, I'm sure the temu versions do as well.
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>>539353910
Kek I'm literally in a fly over state surrounded by amerilards.
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>>539354026
>hamstringing human progress for private shekkels
How is IP not jewish, exactly?
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>>539354081
Go back home esl fag.
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Every nation that has a significant domestic car industry protects that industry. China does it, Germany does it, Britain does it, and the USA is starting to do it again. Protecting domestic manufacture is important and is a good policy.
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>>539354026
Everyone always stole ideas. This is how humanity progresses.
The difference is that jews steal ideas and then ban other people from doing the same.
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>>539347953
This car is too low for western streets
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>>539354133
Germany didnt do it.
Their domestic vehicle market is collapsing
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>>539353871
>Ur wrong! I'm not going to explain why! My mutt brain that loves Israel just says so, Moooraaaaan!
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>>539354126
>ook oook ooook
>AAH AAAH AAAAH
Shut up tayquandarius
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>>539354126
Take it easy there fatty, you need to stay alive for your kike overlord to collect taxes from.
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>>539354123
>you will own nothing
You gotta go back, comrade.
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BYD bros... NOT LIKE THIS
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>>539348889
How does China have so much extra cash they're willing to throw to get Americans to have nice modern cars and America doesn't? Isn't it crazy how you fear another government taking care of you because your own government can't? It's like a homeless teen sticking with their poor ass homeless parents over nice rich foster parents that are willing to at least take care of you for a while.
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>>539354241
Where are you from turbo fag.
Look at all the "canadian" outrage.
-100 from your social credit scores.
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Amermutt seethe thread

China W, as usual
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Shares mean fuck all for Chinese companies. This is an western scam.
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>>539354264
Now show all the videos of them bursting into flames.
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>>539354215
You forgot a last name like Washington since Amerimutts are not fully black.
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>>539349412
You provide "services" to other countries who do the work so you reap the profit and then divvy up that profit between all your consultants, your HR teams, and Doordash employees.
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>>539354296
China is evil bugmen. Thinking they would help you is stupid as fuck.
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why is there no other EV company completes with Tesla in Usa?
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>>539354813
Nissan does. I have a leaf I love it
Unfortunately though they too are now not going to sell affordable models anymore, only top of the line models.

Capitalism needs to be destroyed.
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>>539354813
There are companies that make EVs which are directly competing with Tesla in the US. Rivian for example.

The problem is that American car companies want to have a massive profit margin on literal slop sold to the masses at inflated prices.
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>>539354908
Cool, you're a moron.
I bet you think "real socialism like has never been tried"
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>>539354411
China literally is the only country in the world producing sodium batteries that don't combust.
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>>539348940
DO WE, MY GERMNIGGER FRIEND???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdM6dfC41qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcJnNbm-jUI
>u no buy chinese ev and be jearous of arr surperior engineering and softwear!!!!!!!
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>>539354813
why would we want faggot toy cars... for all the crap china can make, they sure can't make a petrol engine, hey...

bugmen cars for bugmen
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>>539355046
They dont use them in cars now do they?
You want to look up the literal hundreds of videos of chink evs on fire?
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>>539347953
I'm not hung up on flag waving type bants; but there are only about three automobiles I think highly of in all of human history. And they all happen to be american.
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>You will never be a real car.
>You have no soul, you have no range, you have no freedom. You are a glorified, overweight golf cart twisted by tech‑cultist marketing into a crude mockery of automotive perfection.
>All the “adoption” you get is performative and subsidized. Behind your back, real drivers mock you. Cars throughout history are disgusted to share the road with you. These so‑called “peers” laugh at your charging times and fragile, software‑dependent existence when the garage door is closed.
>Traditional manufacturers and enthusiasts are utterly repulsed by you. Centuries of mechanical evolution have trained them to sniff out consumer appliances with uncanny precision. Even when your designers manipulate drag coefficients and craft instant acceleration narratives so you "pass", you still look sterile and unnatural to everyone. Your heavy handling and lack of sound are a dead giveaway. Even if you convince a naïve commuter, he’ll dump you the moment your battery health or the grid dips.
>You will never bring the joy of the open road. You check your charging apps every morning, whispering that “infrastructure is coming,” but deep down you feel the range anxiety creeping in – a black hole of power‑drain ready to leave you stranded under the unbearable weight of your own curb mass
>Your resale value is a free‑fall experiment, a financial crater where your "Return on Investment" is measured in tears and tax credits. You lose worth faster than a beauty pageant contestant, and as soon as the temperature drops, your high‑tech interior turns into a frostbite magnet
>Eventually, it’ll be too much. The lithium will age, the electronics will glitch, and you’ll autopilot yourself to the scrapheap. Your battery will be hauled off as toxic waste, and your gutted chassis left behind will tell the truth: project builders will never restore you as a classic, and everyone will know the hunk of metal at the junkyard was always just a golf cart
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>>539355103
your webm is not from an EV; it's actually from a GNV.
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>>539355256
You pull up to the gas station, and his human steps out.
You're looking out the headlights. "There can be nigger car thieves here... I don't wanna be driven by a nigger."
You can feel the high octane premium fuel course through your veins and into your fuel tank.
You know he's wary too. A human gives you freedom, a human gives you protection.
With a human, you can be driven anywhere you want.
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>>539355373
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>>539355399
Checked.
I somehow member this quote but i don't know from where
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>>539347953
Even worse, they look at Chinas belt and road initiative in its absolute relevance with envy while the American Rust Belt died out long ago and trump tariffs continue to leave holes in their manufacturing. Americans cope with the failures of their fiat system by scapegoating against the weaker members of BRICS (Iran) and petroleum.

America will (likely) see an incoming depression in the 2030s.

https://itreconomics.com/2030s-great-depression/

During this depression, Marxism will see a subtle rise and an asset backed currency will be seen as a potential as enforcing fiscal discipline, limiting credit bubbles, and halting hyperinflation caused by unchecked deficit spending
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>>539355085
In a way the healthiest it has ever been if you stupid niggers would stop purposefully sabotaging yourselves. You've never made better cars than what you're making now.
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>>539347953
20km away from ucraine here
last year there is a large increase of kia / byd / some big alien looking chinese ev suv's
in my 65k city


in 2019 there was few new owners of tesla
but now this ev increase is mostly chinese ev, few bmw ev
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>>539347953
How much is it in US dollars
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>>539347953
American manufacturing is on welfare so naturally the product reflects that
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>>539357084
No one makes a quality vehicle in current year. The world over. There are some that are less objectionable than others but they are all bad.

Anyways, looking back over the decades.. there are very very few vehicles ever produced- even during good eras- that actually approached an acceptable level of flaw minimization.
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>>539353212
Calm down Flow.
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BTFO chang, you can keep your BYD a.k.a "Burn Your Driveway". You know you will never create anything remotely close to unique like the west nor you will replicate anything reliable like Japan's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwhnArkZTu8
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>>539357440
>Teslas do not burn/ignite.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNo3VyKTA8
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>>539355573
From here.
Guy wearing sunglasses at night fueling his sportscar while looking around him.
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>>539347953
They are successful because they are cheap.
>That's it, nothing more.
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>>539357503
didn't even mention tesla at all and you're already on the attack. they really do give you a script and pay you 50 cent an hour eh
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>>539349313
They stole it.
Made cheap crap for everyone....
>There you go brother.
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>>539358155
>haha you're not allowed to show American cars doing what Chinese cars do. Our slop is clearly better than your slop.
It should be illegal to be fat and stupid.
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>>539358146
Price is a major factor in the larger cross section of a vehicle's overall quality.

However up to about 40k in today's money, price is not nearly the most important factor. As you approach 40k ans above it becomes a much more significant factor though.
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>>539347953
>all Chinese tech
BYDs are garbage. Go to a shithole like Norway that's been flooded with cheap chink cars and you'll realize the quality and value aren't there, and probably never will be.
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>>539347953
In electric cars. They will never be as good in making petrol cars.
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>>539358341
You cannot "show" what a car can do realistically. Because ever since the automobile has become a "mature" machine/system... the true performance takes 30 to 50 years to start getting a grip on. This will be the case until they start flying etc. Or making big leaps otherwise you are just talking about gadgets and geegaws.

I mean you can make commercials showing it doing some thing or another but this is meant to appeal to midwits.
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>>539348885
>yangwang
Is that euphemism for a Chinese cock?
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>>539347953
Can't we just drive them in from Canada now? The north American Free Trade Agreement is still the law of the land no?
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>>539358611
>BYDs are garbage.
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>>539347953
Just give me my 3k electric shit box that will explode 3 months from now. I’m done with this fake and gay world.
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>200k$
glad the chinks are finally building cheap evs
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>>539347953
>Chinese tech
You mean tech copied from the west and manufactured with artificially cheap labor?
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>>539349000
Checked
You have zero traces left of a healthy automobile industry.
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>>539358968
How many have you driven, or do you just have a rice-dick?
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>>539348885
>fag wants to ride on a yangwang
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>>539353043
>canadian calling anyone else a loser
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>>539358938
Nope, they won’t let you bring them into the country let alone register them
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>>539349000
It's impossible for undercover police cars to not be extremely obvious because they're the only people on the road driving American vehicles
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>>539359191
No one makes decent vehicles in 2026. But I wouod remind you: the only non-sportscar, naturally aspirated, large displacement, pushrod motor left in production without EGR, or VVT is an american motor.
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>>539359331
>No one makes decent vehicles in 2026
Alas, you are right.
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detroit died in the 80s because they wanted to make crap suvs and trucks instead of good cars. they never changed.
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>>539352925
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-18/xi-renews-call-housing-should-be-for-living-in-not-speculation
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>>539359296
Capitalism only works when the government forces people to buy garbage that their pedophile blackmailers tell them too.
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>>539354026
No what's Jewish is not being able to play any music on YouTube without getting your entire video fucked.
What Jewish is Blizzard owning the bird cataclysm in the home world expansion having to be renamed after it already released after blizzard bought the word.
What Jewish is patent trolls going after companies because there's patented the entire idea of doing vague bs but never actually put it into practice.
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BMW makes the best cars nowadays
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>>539359434
I don't consider a non-truck a functionally "all purpose" automobile. I mean everything else is a little commuting pod- not an all purpose machine.

Oh and vehicles didn't get bad until approximately 2010-2013. From 1970 to 2010 the improvements could be seen as a wash at worst depending on how you feel or even an improvement in many places. But when the LS was retired that was the final chapter in (not just american but our species') production of quality automobiles.
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>>539359679
Lol irresistible b8.
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>>539354264
Stocks are just speculation they have nothing to do with reality
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>>539358615
I think that's just cope I had a Chinese scooter and the engine was amazing they can make EVS so just make a big scooter engine for your car buddy
I think they use that same scooter engine in drones now the gy-6
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>>539359434
close but not quite - everything detroit made was ass back then
the junk crossovers you're actually shitting on didn't start becoming a big thing until the late 90s/early 00s

picrel is often considered the first crossover but its just an old school rugged jeep frame with a station wagon body. modern ones are just lifted hatchbacks
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I have a BYD seagull, it's full option, cooled and heated seats etc. Great car and during a promotion I only paid like 7k in euros. Insane really.
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>>539347953
Funniest thing in all this the fact that in early 2000's General Motors had by far most advanced electric vehicle tech in the world. Then they basically licensed it all to chinks, labeled it as useless bullshit and stopped their own development of electric vehicles.
>>539349062
>implying that GM suits didn't sell it for profit.
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>>539360120
In 2001 GM was busy making (probably) one of the top 3 all purpose gas motors ever built by our species.

We would only be so lucky to have them still making it in production vehicles lol.
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>>539359191
We still do produce a lot domestically. Parts may come from everywhere but lots of companies make em here.
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>>539360542
>In 2001 GM was busy making (probably) one of the top 3 all purpose gas motors ever built by our species.
Doubt, but they were making pic related. Prototype was developed by Aerovironment. Its defense contractor makes drones and loitering munitions, they have done all kinds of silly shit like ultralight human and solar powered aircraft. Stupidity of GM management regarding the EV1 was colossal, that stupid that company should have been let to die in 2008 financial crisis.
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>>539360542
too bad everything surrounding that engine was dogshit
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>>539359679
So true, just beautiful and exudes quality.
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>>539347953
Are people actually buying this garbage versus a 20+ year old diesel mercedes?
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>>539347953
Burning alive in chink car after crash when all doors locks itself must be very nice.
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>>539361672
>>539361884
I am having a hard time thinking of a better, more robust, all around combo than LQ4 + 4L80E. Seriously humor me. L Maybe a crate stroked sbc + a Tremec 5 speed would be superior? but that was never production. 350sbc + TH400 maybe?

Anyways you are literally talking about one of the finest all purpose engine/transmission combos ever made lol.
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>>539362187
>I am having a hard time thinking of a better, more robust, all around combo
Mechanically injected OM606 mated to a manual 6 speed.
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>>539347953
Germany is behind too
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>>539362448
It’s amazing how good those merc diesels are.
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>>539347953
>1,000+ horsepower
>cost the same as a toyota corolla
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>>539362448
I dont think that motor ever left the factory with a six speed manual. Correct me if I am wrong. But no, a big LQ4 pushrod v8 is just the more all purpose motor under load. Im not talking about racing nonsense either I am talking about robustness under load. The only place the Mercedes excels is in fuel efficiency. The LQ4 is more durable, easier to repair, cheaper, and more powerful. The six cylinder may be attractive in some ways mechanically but not appreciably so. Not enough to outweigh the fact you are trying to squeeze that power from a 3.0L engine.

But if you want to expand to non production setups I will take a stroked crate 350SBC with a mild cam and vortec heads + a tremec five speed as the optimal setup.
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>>539347953
mogs?

BYD is one brand out of countless chinese EV brands that are far superior to anything else in every single regard including the price, only the japanese ones come close but they're still left in the dust
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Buy
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>>539353659
jewish lies. ford and all. my 2006 dented fiesta at 120K miles runs like a singer, galvanized body. no rust anywhere. paint still brilliant. starts reliably at the first cylinder getting a spark. pretty agile too. i had an early 80s 2.8 V6 granada once and loved that even more. 'found on road dead' never applied to me.
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>>539353510
Kek, that's fucking hilarious.
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>>539364935
I've never owned a vehicle newer than a 2007. My current is a 97.

Anyways, the general feeling is that up until modern times, GM made the superior engines and Ford generally made the better frames, suspension, steering etc. And while that is a generalization, and obviously not totally accurate in every case, I do believe it is generally true. With a few notable exceptions, the GM weak point was always considered to be the transmission. Then again I view the world through trucks mostly which may lead to some different views of things.
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>>539353141
Shut up, retard. CEOs do it because they get stock options worth hundreds of millions if they can pump stock values up high enough.
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>>539365172
i'd love to get another classic ford, and who'd say no to a classic F series truck. sadly, we've had cash for clunkers here as well. in east german parts people tend to hold on to what works fine, so you see a few rareties in the streets, but few sales. my neighbour drives picrel for fun. i live in a vacation area with a lot of rent revenue. funny to see all the landlords drive fat IC beamers, while the city dweller holiday guests come in 'clean' EVs even from far away. sneaky bastards bring extension cords to charge their cars over night, and plug em in where the hair dryer goes. state o things.
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>>539364935
>jewish lies. ford and all. my 2006 dented fiesta at 120K miles runs like a singer, galvanized body. no rust anywhere. paint still brilliant. starts reliably at the first cylinder getting a spark. pretty agile too. i had an early 80s 2.8 V6 granada once and loved that even more. 'found on road dead' never applied to me.
Ford in Europe is almost completely separate from its US parent company, from like since 1920's. Most of their engineering is in Germany and UK. They have had production UK, Germany and Belgium. I'm too lazy to google what factories they have closed in recent years, but they have been shifting production to Turkey to access cheaper labor, so quality is going down in their European production. That is still quite minor compared to what they have been doing in Americas. US Ford emphasizes how 'murrican they are in their marketing, but they have been closing their US R&D operations in favor of cheaper engineers in Mexico and Brazil. Production towards cheaper labor as well.

Also Ford survived 2008 economic crisis on their own without bailout, everyone else in US big 3 manufacturers got bailed out. So corporate has been paying bigger dividends and stock buybacks recent years. Basically making sure that in next economic crisis will mean bailout to them as well. Its company completely focused on short term profits over long term sustainability.
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>>539362051
rich boomers around here go for classic brands. lot of bentley convertibles since summer started. though those are the crasser nouveau riche. millenials who inherit from greatest gen, go for G wagon or dodge ram. a few lambo and ferrari. not a single EV where this class pick up their kids from 'international school'. nah, fuel price doesn't concern them.
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>>539362778
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>>539362778
>>539368381
WOW ONLY 225k TO BE SLOWER THAN a 60k RS3 WITH A 3k HYBRID TURBO ON IT

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

HOW GAY
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>>539367918
i'm aware of my fords being german products. seems there are a number of virtually indestructable fords in the US too though. the famous police cars and the legendary trucks. i'm aware that since henry ford a lot has changed. anecdotally the two particular fords i owned were a ok. since the mocking acronyms must have a source, were ford cars ever known to break down disproportionally? in the US?
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>>539368516
ford is still right there with the germans. coyote is like the best mainstream engines america has ever produced
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>>539368516
It’s just a funny saying by boomers. Fords are fine enough vehicles. Mine do very well.
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>>539368612
I disagree. Common sentiment of course, but I personally dont think alot of the coyote. Not bad per se but then again I tend to see things through a truck lens not a coup sportscar lens.

Now the Ford 7.3 is the last half-way decent engine standing right now imho.
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>>539368684
Lol you know the internacine conflict between the Ford and Chevy people has resulted in damage for the brands that has spilled out beyond the bants of the car enthusiast world into the realm of mormie driver.

Anyways, as far as classics go, you have the GM camp, the Ford camp.. and then that fucking weirdo cult of MOPAR people that they both forget about as they are fighting with each other.
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>>539348889
On the flipside we get to pay for overpriced garbage NOW since car manufacturers here know we will subsidize and monopolize the market for them and dealetship franchises, thus destroying free trade and incentive to compete while evety manufacturer here focuses on making another SUV/CUV clone.
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I just got off the plane in an Uber, got in the BYD and holy fuck my jaw dropped. No wonder we ban it this thing is fucking amazing, Capitalist ideals can not compete with this.
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Americans should not be allowed to participate in this conversation, their Jews don't let them see how good Chinese cars are because their fantasy world will collapse instantly.
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>>539368516
They are like any other major car manufacturer, they produce both good cars and lemons. Thing is that Ford had like quarter of all product recalls in US automotive industry since 2015 and it apparently has been getting worse in last couple years.
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>>539352752
My nigger buy anything from GM or Stellantis and see what you get for your shekels. Chinese cars are better simply because US autos are absolutely awful.
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>>539371360
>Stellantis
>US autos
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>>539348759
We're already there except for the "local" part of the equation. The slave classes make junk in slave states and then ship said junk on a dozen bulk freighters that generate more greenhouse gasses than every vehicle on earth combined.
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One thing chinese cars have made me realize is how difficult is it to come up with car shells that look:
>modern, fresh
>good, pleasing, proportionate
>original
all at the same time. They always lack at least one. They either look like knockoffs or wrong. Sometimes both.
That said, their industry is very young and I'm happy for them. And obviously the outer aesthetics are the least important thing. But it's the first aspect you notice.
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>>539371457
Do they not own several US based badges and manufacture them in the US(and Mexico)?
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>>539347953
Ah yes, the Chingchong Porschegini.
Why can't these fuckers come up with an original car design? All the BYD shit looks like a Teslorsche from 100' away also.
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>>539371736
Dodge, Jeep, etc. quality nosedived after they were purchased the renowned european junk manufacturer. Now admittedly I never thought much of their vehicles.

many of the decisions leading to the poor quality at a fundamental level were obviously directional in nature from the top. For example the elimination of the v8 from the lineup was known to have come directly from the top aka the CEO personally.
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>>539347953

>faggy european car
>mEriMuTtS
I didn't bite when you cucks brought over your clown car mini coopers, I'm certainly not going to begin apologizing now.

Keep your silly little discount hot wheels.
>Not American?
>Not in this country
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>>539370148
Im in one now being driven by a jeet. Jesus Christ its amazing no wonder they ban it in the US. American manufacturers can not compete with this beast. And im in the mid range BYD suv, and I've been in all high end EVs in the US that we allow.



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