How come the right has virtually no intellectuals (besides, what, Nick Land?) and the left can claim every great intellectual from Kant to Habermas? This is why /lit/ is lefty/pol/. Why are people so obsessed with IQ so anti-intellectual? Also, if you have a genetically high IQ, how come you are unable to read Hegel?https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/ph/pinkard-translation-of-phenomenology.pdf>black people bad>women bad>joo badIt's just so low IQ, honestly.
>>539352957Everyone commenting about politics is a leftist."The right" has economists like Hoppe and etc because it's an actual logical process of deduction and they have no interest in the fancies of "the ideal system."
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>>539352957because the "left" is a bunch of liberal charlatans who misrepresent the beliefs of everyone, have institutional power and distort history to paint themselves as the revolutionaries when in reality they were the reactionaries
>>539353242That's what I mean you guys only have pseuds like Schopenhauer. All the deepest thinkers are leftist.>>539353135>openly admitting that right-wing thinkers are low IQ
>>539353135>>539352957STFU ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY MIDWITS SUCK MY DICK
>>539353305Cunt's a leftist?
>>539352957There are no great intellectualsEveryone we know and have was built upon by more and more people as time went on.
>>539352957/lit/ Isn't lefty/pol/. We have people with all ideologies in /lit/. Unlike /pol/,/lit/ Isn’t some eco chamber of right wingers and the presence of people with diverse ideologies makes the average /pol/tard think /lit/ is leftist
is this a "only career academics are allowed to define intellectualism" episode, or is this a "we pretend that a self interested and biased perspective can legitimately gatekeep thought" episode? Uncle Ted would like a word
>>539352957>besides, what, Nick Land?If that's their intellectual, they're fucked.
>>539352957We have:Fuckin' PlatoHeideggerNietzscheHayekEvola
>>539353493phishing to see how far behind they are?
>>539352957>How come the right has virtually no intellectuals (besides, what, Nick Land?)the right is just a means for the plutocrats to herd the proles into voting for them as in fox news etc, no intellectuals are needed or wanted, only tools in service to ensuring the plutocrats wealth is protected and increased by whatever means necessary
>>539352957>How come the right has virtually no intellectuals (besides, what, Nick Land?) and the left can claim every great intellectual from Kant to Habermas?Your premise is flawed and your question is loaded, they can claim that a philosopher is aligned with their particular brand of political ideology, that doesn't make it true.>This is why /lit/ is lefty/pol//lit/ is unaligned with /pol/ for the simple reason that leftoids got bullied off of /pol/, and congregated in the only other place they could discuss political philosophy; the literature board. Note that even with this, the board is hardly left wing, they just don't like /pol/ because no one likes /pol/, not even /pol/.>Why are people so obsessed with IQ so anti-intellectual?See answer 1.>if you have a genetically high IQ, how come you are unable to read Hegel?Because it's a waste of time for the vast majority of people to bother reading it.
>>539352957What I don't get is why all talk about literature and philosophy online is about dropping names of books and authors and sometimes posting pictures of stacks of books. Wouldn't it be more interesting to just pick some concept like consciousness, morality, free will, etc., and talk about that concept, presenting and hearing the arguments of great philosophers and unusual new ideas from laymen and retards too instead of just dropping names and saying, "Read, hegel, you low-IQ rightoid!"
Marx on Hegel:>There is a double error in Hegel.>The first emerges most clearly in the Phänomenologie, the birth-place of the Hegelian philosophy. When, for instance, wealth, state-power, etc., are understood by Hegel as entities estranged from the human being, this only happens in their form as thoughts ... They are thought-entities, and therefore merely an estrangement of pure, i.e., abstract, philosophical thinking. The whole process therefore ends with absolute knowledge. It is precisely abstract thought from which these objects are estranged and which they confront with their presumption of reality. The philosopher – who is himself an abstract form of estranged man – takes himself as the criterion of the estranged world. The whole history of the alienation process [Entäußerungsgeschichte] and the whole process of the retraction of the alienation is therefore nothing but the history of the production of abstract (i.e., absolute) ||XVII|[45] thought – of logical, speculative thought. The estrangement, [Entfremdung] which therefore forms the real interest of the transcendence [Aufhebung] of this alienation [Entäußerung], is the opposition of in itself and for itself, of consciousness and self-consciousness, of object and subject – that is to say, it is the opposition between abstract thinking and sensuous reality or real sensuousness within thought itself. All other oppositions and movements of these oppositions are but the semblance, the cloak, the exoteric shape of these oppositions which alone matter, and which constitute the meaning of these other, profane oppositions. It is not the fact that the human being objectifies himself inhumanly, in opposition to himself, but the fact that he objectifies himself [selbst sich vergegenständlicht] in distinction from and in opposition to abstract thinking, that constitutes the posited essence of the estrangement [Entfremdung] and the thing to be sublated [aufzuhebende].Objectively high IQ writing.
>>539352957Kant was a conservative, and Habermas is ignored by the left - the guy tells you that you have to talk to your opponent and that you aren't always right.These thinkers would have labeled you an extremist.Or Rawls, who is considered one of the greatest left-wing thinkers with his philosophy of justice, yet in his own philosophy ridicules every left-wing position.I used to be a leftist, and because I’m against fascists, I now vote for the right. And I could convince Kant that this is the categorical imperative.
>>539353335He was more of a liberal than a leftist to be fair. Even so he was on the far end of 'progressive' thought in Germany at that time and was often accused of being a Jacobin. His greatest disciple, Fichte, was an open anarchist and communist who advocated for the overthrow of the state.
>>539353570>PlatoPseud.>HeideggerIt's complicated>NietzscheIt's complicated>HayekNot a deep thinker>Evolalol, lmao even
>>539353996Meanwhile I imagine somebody like him would choke the life out of a modern leftist
>>539354082That's true, Fichte hated the romantics for being degenerate hippies so he likely would not like the dope-smoking retards who make up most of the left in western countries. Even so he was a commmie and he'd be a commie if he were alive today. And he was a commie because of his metaphysical insight into the nature of being.
>>539354214>The patriot philosopher Fichte had been arguing since the late 1790s that active citizenship, civic freedom and even property rights should be withheld from womenAll these leftists and no conservatives, ever
The continental Marxoid philosophy fags are the cancer killing /lit/.
>>539353305Schopie was a pseud?
>>539354549>a leftist from 250 years ago would have the same opinions as a leftist todayRight, and Kant wrote about the genetic superiority of Europeans too. You are genuinely low IQ.>>539354680We've been running the board from day 1.
>>539354924Ah so 250 years of philosophy and leftists have nothing to show for it?
>>539354042>everything I don't like is invalidWasn't expecting anything different, desu
>>539354042Your rationale is your epicurianism claiming the suppositional thoughts of dead men for your own pleasure and has no basis in reality.I am now going to goreflood your board. That is what I do to people who set premises in bad faith.
>>539353276ThisW t f I agree with a Bri’ish person!?! I know half of England are normal good people. I think your royal family are kinda sh t heads and hope you take your country back The good brits did have to help fight off the bad ones in 1776 after all (with the Scottish, French, Italians, etc)
>>539355052Plato's entire philosophy is based on hypostasizing thoughts which is a completely invalid move. Aristotle absolutely shreds him on this. Because of this hypostatization he conceives of thought as moving in a circle while Aristotle demonstrates that it moves in a straight line. The political implications should be obvious. Neither Heidegger nor Nietzsche can be described as 'rightists' in any simple way, both of them would have been horrified by Trump and would have thought his supporters were retards. They were critics of liberalism but the 'alt-right' is by and large perfectly fine with liberalism as long as it's a racist and sexist liberalism. Hayek is an economist, not a philosopher. Evola is simply a pseud, he is not a serious thinker. His "philosophy" boils down to "strength good. attractive people good. i am aristocrat. i am wizard," with a heavy dose of schizo.>>539354720Anyone who reads Kant and comes away thinking it's about how we don't know the real world and are trapped in illusions (or in Schopie's case in our desires) is a pseud, yes. Anyone who doesn't understand how Kant's philosophy is a philosophy of freedom got filtered hard.
>>539355361>racism and sexismwhat tarot card do you have in your bag to define where this doesn't "fit" into philosophy
>>539352957Becasue Right wing politics exists to maintain the Capitalist system whereas Leftist politics attempts to progress humanity.
>>539353892>Hegel was retarded for reducing everything to thinking, because everything is thinking nothing really changes and his philosophy is conservative.Look I can read it too you pseud.
first of all, the left of the past is basically the right of today. guess you didnt know that shit shifts around. secondly,>Why are people so obsessed with IQ so anti-intellectual?woah, dumb people wish they were smarter, crazythirdly,>shit develops through tensionthis does not take into account a wrench so large that it causes civilization resetting scale wars (which have happened plenty in history)>freedom needs social institutionsand how do you expect to have them when women can simply choose not to be with any man>domination creates unstable relationshipsthis is absolutely not always true, give me a break. people can be too dumb to care (niggers), and even seek it from someone else (women)>truth is found in the wholeagain, not always. absolute monoliths are not predicated upon timespans>philosophy understands its own eranigger what? the point of philosophy is many things, and is not limited by its era at all. in fact, that defines history perfectly. philosophy is a very abstract concept with fields that focuseither way, hegel basically believed that shit develops through contradictions toward greater understanding and freedom. nothing about op's post necessitates that black people, women, and jews cant be a mistake on this "journey of humanity". was there supposed to be an argument? ofc not, who am i kiddingdude reminds me of sartre, he was a midwit too lol
>>539355361>munchhausen dilemma isn't real!>only my thoughts are valid!lol. lmao.
>>539355622Don't reward this nigger for engaging in bad faith. Come over here >>25415115 and shit up his board instead.
>>539352957Ahem
>>539352957>>black people badMost people of the Enlightenment era believed Negros to be inferior (eg Hume). They had blacks in zoos all over Europe and I don't recall any of those people writing against it.>>joo badIn general, yes. Again many would agree. Goethe while minister considered the law that prevented Jews from having the same rights as Germans good ("löbliche" actually). That doesn't mean there aren't good Jews of course.You're the midwit here.
>>539352957If you're claiming that the right has no intellectuals then you're just revealing that you haven't bothered to do any research whatsoever, kek.Really depends if you're more concerned with auth-right or lib-right intellectuals but from what comes to mind, the auth-right has Evola, Hobbes or Bowden to name a few, whereas the lib-right has the Austrian school, Rand and Locke.There's probably several other intellectuals like Kant or Nietzsche who were largely influential to sectors of the right.
>>539355361> Anyone who reads Kant and comes away thinking it's about how we don't know the real world and are trapped in illusions (or in Schopie's case in our desires) is a pseud, yesHe says this word for word in multiple places you idiot. No one cares about your continental Marxoid head canon.>The representation in intuition of a body contains nothing which could belong to an object considered as a thing in itself, but merely the phenomenon or appearance of something, and the mode in which we are affected by thar appearance.
>>539355908>I take what kant said 100%, anything that gives me more agency to do whatever I want is good>Kant would have locked you in a box and shipped you to a desert island>Well you win some and you lose some, that makes YOU the bad personWhat
>>539355361>both of them would have been horrified by Trumpin what universe is the lgbtist negro-loving trump right-wing?? go back, retard
>>539355983You just got filtered kid, many such cases. You're confusing transcendental idealism with empirical idealism and you are also confusing transcendental and empirical psychology. Kant did not deny empirical reality, he affirmed it; and he wasn't writing about actual psychological faculties but about transcendental conditions of experience. >>539355908>Evola, RandFucking lol>Hobbes, LockeShitty British empiricists. Also Locke was not right wing I doubt you could even claim Hobbes as right wing but I'll grant you him since he was an empiricist I don't really care.>BowdenNever heard of him, presumably a pseud.>Kant and Nietzsche were influential on the rightMarx has been influential on the right too.
>>539353305>openly admitting that right-wing thinkers are low IQI'm saying they are actually left wing because it's a manner of thinking that removes actual logical deduction.Yes. Low IQ, but hardly right wing in reality.
Let's hope you never read what Marx has to say about the jews and niggers and what he thinks of slavs and German superiority.
>>539352957Nick Land is a communist who thinks acceleration is the solution. He is also really based, unlike any other tankie.Death to Zizek.
>>539355361Ive never heard anyone use pseud before and not be a complete retard. You are right, especially about Evola and Kant but be better.Heidegger is 100% right and would support Trump taking America back to its mythical golden age. I also disagreed with Neitzche but he'd be a ancap libertarian so hes probably right.
>>539356637Again,>>539354924
>>539355908Locke and the founding fathers were the biggest radical liberals of their time so I always find the right taking ownership sus. I get its complicated but taking staunch liberals 300 years latter is not wrong but it is not the best argument imo.
Let's find out how full of shit op is:>Immanuel Kant is considered one of the foundational architects of scientific racism. In his lectures on anthropology and physical geography, he was among the first Western thinkers to define "race" as a rigid, inherited biological category. Kant argued that humanity consisted of one "stem species" that split into four distinct races based on climate: White, Negro (Black), Mongol/Hunnish (Yellow), and Hindu/Hindustanish (Red/Brown).Kant organized these categories into a strict vertical hierarchy, measuring a group’s capacity for reason, moral development, and "civilization":The Top: He positioned white Europeans at the summit, viewing them as uniquely possessing all the talents necessary to advance human progress.The Middle: He claimed Asian populations had a capacity for culture but lacked the ability to develop abstract concepts or higher scientific thinking.The Bottom: He wrote profoundly derogatory profiles of Indigenous Americans and Black Africans. In his lecture notes, he asserted that Native Americans were incapable of being educated, and that Black people could only be trained as servants through physical discipline.Slavery and Genocide: In his private anthropological reflections (Reflexionen), he went as far as to write that "[Native Americans] and Negros cannot govern themselves. Thus they are only good as slaves," and infamously speculated that "all races will be wiped out... except for the white.">In 1961, French philosopher Michel Foucault completed his secondary doctoral thesis: a translation of and a major 100-page introduction to Kant's Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View.(((Surprisingly))), Foucault did not focus on Kant’s explicit racism. Critics tracking Foucault's broader blindspots on colonialism point out that his 1961 introduction is largely silent on Kant's Eurocentric bigotry. Instead, Foucault approached the text structurally, evaluating how Kant invented the modern "concept of man."
>>539356479>muh transcendental conditionsAre there any transcendental conditions of experience in the room with you right now anon? I thought philosophy was really interesting too when I was like 15.
>>539357392We are now living in a age where a pedophile masochist commie is considered an imperialist. What a time to be alive.
>>539357392Yes and Marx was an antisemite, actually all of the major German philosophers before WW2 besides Husserl were antisemites, and Hegel was a chauvinist. This doesn't change the fact that Kant was a supporter of the French Revolution and many of his greatest followers were even more radical than he was. This is such a low IQ take, to think that because this thinker from 250 years ago was racist he was 'right-wing'. >>539357434>pseud reading of Kant gets destroyed>decides philosophy doesn't matter after allk
>>539352957most "intellectualism" from the left is just anti-Christian mental gymnastics
>>539352957Low quality bait
>>539357661A lot of people were eagerly awaiting the results of the French revolution
>>539352957Low quality bait, /lit/ has become /pol/ because the right is the objective truth, and the left is genetic inferiority.
Virtually every notable philosopher and theologian, and scientist from about 100 AD to 1600 AD was tied to the Christian church; right wing. The majority of them from 1600AD to 1900AD were tied to the church. Ergo, right wing. It's only recently that the liberals took complete control of the institutions and have shut off right wing thinkers + ignored historic right wing thinkers so normgroids think they don't exist
>>539352957Some books are best left in the past. Hegel didn't even know what DNA or evolution was.
>>539352957>>539353305>>539353892>first i will post about how hegel was left wing (he wasn't)>then i will post marx's pilpul word salad that nobody reads because marx is so obsessed with jewish materialism that he has to try to refute every other philosopher and nobody to this day gives a fuck about his refutations nor do they take his philosophy seriously unless they are a deranged leftist who needs "equality" to be a philosophic truth which is unquestionable and marx is the fountain from which that delusion flowsplato was right wing, aristotle was right wing, machiavelli was right wing, hobbes was right wing, nietzsche was right wing and self contradictory, hegel, hume, locke, and kant were all eurocentric racists and nationalist by today's metrics, and heidegger was a national socialist.fun fact: marx wrote more pages trying to refute stirner than stirner himself wrote because marx was such a schizophrenic pilpul spewing jew
>>539357661you are playing "they are leftists because i say so even though nothing about their philosophy relates to the modern left in any way whatsoever" ergo you are a lying jew
>>539357661lets find out your iq>Most political historians conclude that Kant cannot be cleanly claimed by the modern left or the authoritarian right. Instead, his theoretical work places him squarely as a founding father of Classical Liberalism. He championed individual liberty, free markets, property rights, and legal equality (which aligns with the modern center-right), while demanding an end to aristocratic privilege and war (which aligns with the center-left). Leftists who paint him as a radical revolutionary are usually cherry-picking his private enthusiasm for France while ignoring his deeply conservative legal restrictions. ...John Rawls used Kant to build his left-liberal theory of the welfare state. ...The right-wing libertarian defense of Kantian property rights by thinkers like Robert Nozick....Kant's concept of "Enlightenment" explicitly demands obedience to the state ("Argue as much as you will, but obey!").
>>5393579841.) "Right/left" categories don't even make sense before democracy.2.) Pagans, Jews, and Muslims were all very important in that period. What you think of as Catholic philosophy is more pagan, Jewish, and Muslim than it is Christian. If you took all the Avicenna and Averroes out of Thomas Aquinas for example there wouldn't be much left.
>>539352957>Habermas
>>539358437>1.) "Right/left" categories don't even make sense before democracy.cool so why did you use that framework in the OP >>539352957>How come the right has virtually no intellectuals ... and the left can claim every great intellectual from Kant to Habermas?oh wait because you are a lying, disingenuous jew
>>539358345You're right honestly Hegel isn't so much left wing as liberal and (in a weird way) a conservative liberal. But that was too complicated for a short punchy post. Regardless Hegel is very important for understanding leftist thought, he is definitely 'canon' for us.>Marx>Jewish materialismMarx hated Judaism and the materialism he espoused has its origins with German thinkers like Feuerbach. Engels was German, most of his followers were Germans.>Marxism is about equality and everybody being the same!Nope, you should perhaps read Capital and see for yourself what Marxism is all about. It's like you got your understanding of Marxism from the liner notes of a Rush album. Your other points have already been refuted itt.
>>539358597Kant was writing in the wake of the French Revolution you idiot. Everyone I mentioned in the OP is writing at a time when left/right are real categories. Please keep posting and making a fool out of yourself though this is fun.
>>539358657so the upshot of marxism isn't the collective ownership of the means of production and economic equality of all workers in a post national setting?is it or is it not?
>>539358723okay so what is left and what is right, give me a simple definition.
>>539352957If an alien landed on the white house lawn and people realized we aren't alone the whole right would die out in a day and the world would instantly become liberal and any non-liberal would be locked into a mental asylum.
>>539353570Slotterdyk
>>539358345Based. Thanks for doing some of the heavy lifting on this, anon.
>>539358912we will cut down the jewish lies and lay bare the truth before the decade is over, never give up
>>539352957>How come the right has virtually no intellectuals (besides, what, Nick Land?)Maybe you need to read more then, mate:>Edmund Burke.>Adam Smith.>Nietzsche.>Charles Darwin (Liberal who was heavily influenced by Burke and Smith’s views on an organic society).>Herbert Spencer. >Émile Durkheim>Carl Schmitt.>Edward O Wilson (Sociobiology).>James Burnham. >Samuel T. Francis. >Thomas Hobbes.>John Locke (somewhat with property rights being considered sacred). >Hans Herman Hoppe and Murray Rothbard.>Hayek.Ludwig von Mises.>Ernst Jünger.>Oswald Spengler.>Machiavelli (due to his views on power, hierarchy and human nature).>Roger Scruton.>Patrick J. Deneen. >Curtis Yarvin.
this dipshit has nothing. i'm going back to work. all leftists and jews can do is lie and claim credit for the achievements of people who would or do hate them.
>>539352957no one care who's thoughts you wish were your own. I need nothing from any of the people you mentioned and have no concern for how you interpret any political posturing. go read some more books and dunning kruger yourself to a more suitable audience.
>>539359297>I don't need no stinkin' BOOKS I can think for myself! Why can't you just think for yourself, like me?Absolutely retarded take.
>>539358597Right = tradition. Right/left have always been a thing. Within pagan Europe at the birth of Christianity, it would have been considered left wing because it clashed with the traditional pagan structures, but after it adopted it and laid foundations, it would be considered right wing for this new iteration of the western tradition
>>539352957All of those intellectuals despised democracy. You "claiming" them just to show you are the best voters is not that bright.
As an academic and a conservative they won’t hire you and put you on the research team or in the classroom, and they sure as shit won’t allow you to publish. Most conservative academics pretend to not be conservative for job security, or much like myself they just use their logical brains to make more money in the skilled trades. Also the trades are more fun and a better career. Imagine getting a philosophy degree and loving Leibniz, but realizing you can’t actually teach logic because the class is offered once every 4 semesters. Also once you out yourself that’s it. You will be shit canned.
>>539358833Thinkers on the left push for emancipation in various forms - political emancipation (like the French revolution), economic emancipation (Marxism and other socialisms), emancipation from colonial powers, etc. Right wing thinkers try to fossilize structures of domination in various ways, generally in multiple arenas at once. Right wing thought thinks it's natural/desirable/inevitable for certain groups to dominate other groups. Again this could take many forms, it could be the domination of the Catholic Church, of whites over blacks, of wealth over poverty, etc. So left and right are relative terms and in that sense their meaning 'changes' over time but these are the notions that underlie them.
>>539359445You wouldn’t think that if Kant disagreed.
>black people badWe all know niggers have lower IQs on average and that's why they fail when other succeed, and even so you shameless retards hide behind racism to push DEI, to give jobs to the incompetent.Low IQ is also associated with violent crime, just like poverty is, but the poverty argument is null as soon as you claim that an increase in immigrants lowers crime rates.You think any of those intellectuals wouldn't see through your bullshit?
>>539359671Thinkers on the left claim to be progressive and then teach everyone that nature is a social construct, when it was by being in tune with nature that hominids evolved. There is nothing progressive about anal sex.Your side is more visionary than the right but all you guys envision is dogshit.
>>539352957The left claims intellectuals are leftists because they never actually read then
>>539359445how has what you have learned form these other peoples thinking improved your life? or has it lead you to think other people are stupider than you for reading someone else's thoughts?
Leibniz was not a liberal. Remember when he died alone with only his secretary at his funeral while newton sucked the kings dick and got all the credit for calculus even tho we use Leibniz’s notation? If the calculus is the same but we use Leibniz’s notation why do we give all the credit to newton for coming up with the same thing but making the brackets all stupid and confusing? Perfect example of a conservative academics who was a literal genius not getting treated well and eventually marginalized to death.
>>539359754Fichte refuted racism in his Science of Ethics.>>In recent times some extremely unintelligent people have raised a hue and cry and have suggested that belief in the unlimited perfectibility of man is something extremely dangerous, utterly contrary to reason, and the source of God knows what horrors. The question is not whether one has to decide on the basis of purely theoretical rational grounds for or against the perfectibility of humanity. This is a question we can totally ignore. The moral law, which extends to infinity, absolutely commands us to treat human beings as if they were forever capable of becoming perfected and remaining so and this same law absolutely prohibits us from treating human beings in a contrary manner. Let everyone judge for himself what kind of people these are who consider a belief that is absolutely commanded by the moral law to be a piece of folly. Nothing is more dangerous to the tyranny of despots and clerics nor more destructive to the very foundations of their reign than this belief in human perfectibility.
>>539359671leftism is trying to make unequal things equal. rightism is saying unequal things should be unequal. both are terrible if followed to extremes, hence the utter collapse of american education on the side of "equality" and on the side of "inequality" the ownership of our entire economy by investors (jews the government prints money for). the challenge is blending the two into a functional system which is best realized by national socialism. the best modern examples of this being norway and china. good day.
>>539352957Habermas is a fucking bumbling retard. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qA4iw3V0o1c&pp=ygUISEFCRVJNQVM%3DJust listen to that old fuck. Also all liberal philosophers are literally just ”muh inherit rights tabula rasa” horse shit
>>539360011Aristotle wasn't liberal either, another titan.>Homosexuality is a disease, a compulsive, unpleasant, and destructive behavior akin to manias like eating dirt or chewing one's fingernails>>539360027Fichte was not a physical anthropologist. He was never equipped to talk about race.Saying racism is refuted is akin to saying Homo Abilis = Homo Sapiens Sapiens.You can't perfect blacks with DEI. You can do it if you teach them to breed better, i.e. to choose the most racially progressive partners.
>>539359947>anything worth doing has some concrete, physical or affective pay-outAgain, absolutely retarded take. You could educate yourself by reading. Barring that I really can't describe the value of literature and philosophy to you, you would have to experience it for yourself.
>>539352957The left has niggers and spics, er, I mean doctors and lawyers. kys newfag
>>539360313>Fichte was not a physical anthropologist. He was never equipped to talk about race.You're clearly illiterate since the quote implicitly addresses just this. Of course the quote isn't about race as such it is broader than that.
>>539353276If righttards were able to validate their intellect with academia, there would be more right wing intellectuals. Rightists don’t break down boundaries and barriers as intellectuals because they’re accustomed to accepting and conserving intrinsically more regressive ideologies and less open minded ideas. Leftists only win the intellectual war because the liberal intellect opened the enlightenment and they continued to debate with Kant’s ideas into the 20th-21st centuries (Horkheimer at the Frankfurt school) on the subjectivity vs rationality of science and materialism vs idealism. Rightists just defend imperialism while promoting liberal democracy.Without the liberal intellect, America never would’ve been created as a republic.
>>539360396Your quote is almost a non sequitur to the post you replied to but I still gave my reply. You cannot perfect humans through words and ideas. Verbal eugenics is COPE.If you have better hardware, if you are more athletic than someone else, you will succeed over others with shitty hardware. It's the same thing in regards to your brain, and to other physical characteristics you might have.Niggers have substandard hardware on average. >The moral law, which extends to infinity, absolutely commands us to treat human beings as if they were forever capable of becoming perfected and remaining so and this same law absolutely prohibits us from treating human beings in a contrary manner.Apply this to Homo Abilis.
>>539360321I read, a lot. You have not answered my question though. How has what you have read bettered your life? it seems all it has done is given you an excuse to denigrate others for the perceived wisdom you have from studying someone else's thinking. go ahead and attack me personally again, that will show me. You are such a renowned thinker!
>>539360027racism is a hypothesis about reality that can only be debunked through science.
>>539355361>PlatoI was thinking more of his political theory and not his thoughts on thought, but okay>Heidegger and Nietzsche would have been horrified at Trump/Alt RightStrawman. No one considers (((Trump))) or the (((Alt-Right))) to be "right wing" except normies and leftists. You see "right wing" as conservatardism, the rest of us see it as actual white nationalism and racial will to power
>>539355361Also, what Nietzsche and Heidegger would have actually been *horrified* at would be the complete browning of Europe and the hyper-liberal globohomo corporate takeover orchestrated by jews in the past century
>>539360767Fichte's point is that we have a moral obligation to believe that people can be improved. In the case of racism, the science is not actually as open and shut as you retards think it is. For one thing, blacks are not actually related to each other (Africa is genetically highly diverse as are African Americans) so it's hard to understand how they could be genetically low-IQ. For another, most brain development happens after birth so there are tremendous environmental effects, there are also environmental effects before birth - the prenatal environment is not some sort of 'cope' - which confound adoption studies. To prove that blacks were genetically lower IQ you would need to know how genes influence IQ and then look at the genes of blacks but we are far from knowing this. We don't even understand how genes influence height or hypertension. Fichte is saying that, even IF you knew blacks were less intelligent, you should still try to help them and not simply cast them into horrible ghetto existences like we do now, and that, since we actually don't know this, you have an obligation to believe that they are perfectible/improvable. And he concludes by pointing out that ideologies that say people in general, or some group of people, are not improvable, favor the repressive powers that be. But I know you guys are retarded and you won't be able to follow what I just said - you see blacks, you see they look sort of alike, you see their sometimes retarded and antisocial behavior, and it's "obvious" that they are genetically inferior.
>>539360027A philosopher have nothing meaningful to say about racism. Racism, regardless if its true or not, (or any other meaningful proposition) depends on facts. Anything that lies beyond facts (metaphysics, morality/ethics) is completely irrelevant to racism. Most (continental) philosophers are concerned with non-facts, thus, most of their statements are nonsensical. There is no state of affairs in the world that can prove or refute their statements. Read tractatus from wittgenstein.
>>539361608>muh falsifiabilityThis really is a low IQ board ngl.
>>539361274Would you rather get some DEI going for Homo Abilis humans or pay them to not have children?Picrel is black and a good example of a racially progressive skull, i.e. a skull that assembles features that are completely distinct from apes', or from the ancestors we have in common with them. That's what racially progressive means. It means looking more HUMAN than you look like an ape.To illustrate this point a bit better, can you really name any intellectual or inventor with a big jaw? Do any of those you are claiming have big jaws? No, but they do have long noses, something you don't see in apes. At all.I don't care about your skin color.
Literally every intellectual, poet, historian, artist, etc. would be considered far-right by the contemporary left’s standards. It’s leftists who have no intellectuals.
>>539353570FriedmanSchopenhauerLeibnitzHumeFichtePopper
>>539361274>To prove that blacks were genetically lower IQ you would need to know how genes influence IQ You really don't need to do all that. The data isn't trying to trick you.
Heidegger is one of the most influential philosophers of the 20th century and also a nazi.
Heidegger is one of the most influential philosophers of the 20th century and also a conservative who didn't mind the Nazis.
>>539352957There's better things to do than idpol.
>>539361818>ignores everything I said about race, IQ, and genetics because he doesn't like it>posts 19th century racial pseudosciencePerhaps Portuguese people have genetically lower IQs. I'm pretty sure they actually do have some of the lowest average IQ in Europe and the lowest literacy rates.>>539361608Racism is not scientific. As for the 'certainty' or lack thereof of philosophy - because philosophy tries to understand the conditions of experience it can't be known to be true or false in the way that something experienced can be. It's a conversation that never stops; math and (to a much lesser extent) natural science can only be "certain" and "falsifiable" because they are shallow. Philosophy is rational and logical but there's always something more to say so it's constantly evolving; its object is not exhaustible because it's being itself and it transcends limitation.
>>539362006>the Portuguese is unable to follow one paragraph of text without becoming confused and losing his train of thoughtlol
>>539352957Hegel was very right wing. Marxists just stole a bunch of his dialectical schizo nonsense.
>>539362351"And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzsche/pol/ is gazing back into you. Enjoy the cognitive dissonance.>pseudoscienceYou're too retarded to understand the general idea, even after I gave it to you in baby steps. Physical anthropology has never been discredited or refuted. Neurobiology also supports physical anthropology.>Portuguese are genetically low IQYou're just angry now. You have no answer for Homo Abilis being human.>>539362417You literally can't answer 1 thing I say. Ad hominem is all you have. I am starting to see why you believe yourself the equal of archaic humans.Did Fichte even get to see a nigger irl? Everything about you screams pseud and estrogen.
>>539362543Bro you didn't respond to a single one of my points. Instead you did a post about how black people look different from whites and another one about how black people do poorly in school. Tell me something I don't know. You couldn't follow my anti-racist argument because you have a low IQ, like most right wingers.
This shit for brains OP keeps claiming that all these humans are equals.You couldn't be any more clueless.
>>539352957Every single public figure is an extreme rightist by modern standards. The only claim for most, if not all, of these "intellectuals" being "left wing" is that they're generally considered smart and the left looked to think they're smart, so there saying they must be left wing as a result.
>>539352957Race/IQ isn't discussed, period. If it was, we'd win and then society would be overthrown.Smart people either know this, cope intellectually (many such cases!) or find it too convoluted to approach while relying on "experts".>isn't there a consensus?touble is high IQ begets high trust and you tend to become very vulnerable to the big lies.That's all you're doing. You're lying your ass off, bigly>(((It's just so low IQ, honestly.)))You have the (((consensus))). Granted but that's it.
>>539362703I literally destroyed everything you said. That cognitive dissonance must be intense for all this denial you're doing.Is Homo Abilis (a HUMAN) the same as a Sapiens Sapiens (a MORE EVOLVED HUMAN)?Are you starting to understand the point I am making? Niggers are LESS EVOLVED, hence DEI. Hence the crime. Hence the low IQ. Hence you being privileged enough to feel sorry for them.
>>539362727No, I'm claiming that there are environmental factors at work as well and we can't disentangle them in our current state of knowledge, and that it's hard to understand how blacks could be "genetically" anything because they are not all related to each other. They superficially look similar but this is not due to their being related; the "black" phenotype occurs even in people with "Asian" DNA (negritos), black people are not one big family. You're not literate, like all too many Portuguese, and because you lost the argument you're trying to muddy the waters by raising as many side-issues as you possibly can, largely by revivifying outdated pseudoscience about skull shape. Sad!
>>539354042>It's complicatedWhy do you pray to a Jew?
>>539363148Yes, I know, all the same stupid shit you gobbled up in school.Why do the environmental factors only affect niggers and spics? They don't seem to be affecting Asians, Indians and Europeans.Weren't Indians colonized? Aren't Asians discriminated against because chink eyes?And how exactly do these "environmental" factors decrease someone's intelligence, humanity, etc but not their physical prowess? Do niggers not excel in sports?>the "black" phenotype occurs even in people with "Asian" DNA (negritos), black people areYou accuse me of being pseudoscientific and then you blurt out something like this. Lmao. You are a joke.Sudanese niggers are different from somalis, who are different from ethiopians, who are different from west africans, who are different from pygmies, etc.DOESN'T MATTER.I am talking about the average black man in the US.>revivifying outdated pseudoscience What about it is pseudoscience and outdated, simpleton? Hegel was right about democracy. Retards like you shouldn't even be allowed to open their mouths let alone vote.The very fact that I can point to Homo Abilis' existence makes anything Fichte said relating to humans COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.
OP sucks nigger dick
>>539363497>Why do the environmental factors only affect niggers and spics? They don't seem to be affecting Asians, Indians and Europeans.They generally have very different environments. This is boring anon, you're not even worth arguing with.>DOESN'T MATTER.>I am talking about the average black man in the US.Right, and the problem is that genetically speaking there is no such thing as "the average black man". Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a child?
>>539363148"Environmental factors" sounds a lot like god of the gaps. >and that it's hard to understand how blacks could be "genetically" anything because they are not all related to each other.It's not very hard if you try. There are many flavours of ice cream too. One of them is vanilla. All the myriad others can be characterized as "not vanilla".
>>539363691The "poojeets" and the rice dick chinks seem to be doing well.The environment is of their own making. Even the richest blacks are still criminal. Enjoy your 100 million cannibal descendant spics and your 50 million niggers.>Right, and the problem is that genetically speaking there is no such thing as "the average black man".Of course you say this since you're absolutely clueless about everything. How could you know anything about race when you deny it? You force yourself to be ignorant and then want to larp as a knowledgeable person.
>>539352957>muh left, rightburger bruva>>539352957>>black people bad>>women bad>>joo badthat was and still is the policy of the democrats, you retardi believe you don't understand that many policies can be right and left, and the murrican idea of right and left parties is nonsense
>>539363691OP, google "Dunning-Kruger"Yw
>>539363833The issue is not whether or not you can group people together, obviously it is very easy to group black people together as we can all identify them morphologically as "black". The issue is whether they're related to each other. Since they're not related to each other, how could they have genetically low IQ? It's still theoretically possible - maybe the same environmental pressures caused similar mutations in genetically distinct groups all over Africa for example. But it definitely makes it less likely. You just have a low IQ just like the Portuguese guy, hence you can't follow my argument.
>>539352957quantity vs quality the left has the most intellectuals the right has the best intellectuals
>>539363148west africans? bantu?
>>539361941gtfo
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>>539363833He's acting like his own government doesn't have these types of statistics. Nope, black men don't exist. They aren't real. And I already told him I don't care about someone's skin color, which should point to me having other methods to discern and separate the good blacks from the bad ones. He can't put two and two together, he's just a Homo Abilis.
>>539352957You're not an "intellectual" and you don't even know German.Most leftoid "intellectuals" can't even read Homer in Greeek or do math. They're frauds.
>>539364067>morphologically as blackYou don't understand what the word means. Morphology implies shape. If you can identify them morphologically, then what the fuck are you objecting to, retard?>Since they're not related to each other, how could they have genetically low IQHow are they not related if they don't share morphology? LMAOYou are as clueless as they come.MORPHOLOGY IS YOUR ENTIRE SHAPE.
>>539363926>HURRR HOW CAN YOU SAY BLACKS AREN'T RELATED TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT ADMITTING THERE IS SUCH A THING AS BLACK PEOPLE????Low IQ master debater ladies and gentlemen.
>>539364298How are they not related if they share morphology*You claim anthropology is pseudoscience, and then you use an anthropological term in the dumbest way imaginable.Smart. You are in top form today, anon.
>>539364332You're not even reading what's written there. This is embarrassing.Again, you are saying Homo Abilis do not exist, and they are to be seen as equals to Sapiens Sapiens.
>>539364067>Since they're not related to each other, how could they have genetically low IQ?Perhaps they don't have a low IQ. It could be that whites, say, have high IQ, could it not?>You just have a low IQThat's right, but your argument seems to be rather weak as well.
>>539358437And democracy predates the christ.
>>539364509Why do the environmental factors only affect IQ and humanity (or lack thereof) of blacks and not their physical prowess?He also can't answer this. They only affect what is convenient to his position.
>>539364110lel.Leftist intellectualism is dependent on being well versed in prior leftist theory. Marx works have no impact on the world outside the people who believe his jewish lies. 95% of the world got on just fine without reading it.
>>539364298>people who look similar are necessarily related>but that's wrong you fucking retard.jpg
>>539364590Sure but it disappeared for thousands of years. Nice "gotcha!" though, buddy.
>>539359671>emancipationfrom what?being normal? healthy? alive? maybe from being relatable/likable? or is it from being successful? dutiful?
>>539364636Yes you fucking retard. All neanderthals looked similar, they shared MORPHOLOGY. It is the same for races.You literally don't know shit.
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>>539364636why do all the countries have to become less white, again?if you could travel back in time and showed all these leftist heroes the result of multiculturalism and women's rights, would they still be ok with associating with the left, knowing it means their absolute extinction
>>539352957All the philosophy in the world can’t save you from living around 1 billion indians. Enjoy the brown future faggot
This here is a sudanese nigger. Does he share morphology with a light bulb somali nigger? Are you starting to form a picture in that peanut brain or not yet?
>>539352957Kant wasn't really left wing. He was more of a classical liberal, favouring a bourgeois republican form of government over a monarchy. He also thought that black people were inferior to white people.
>>539360027>the moral law commands us to treat all humans as if they are capable of becoming perfectedThis viewpoint is a monstrous evil. The moral law commands us we should treat all things as if they were capable of flight.
>>539352957Ralph Waldo Emerson. But he is that sort of highly elevated man—his thinking is very expansive, his writing highly imaginative—and therefore inaccessible to the vulgar people. I am an atheist, but I love Emerson.
>>539352957Habermas is right wing by current leftist standards.But you also said Kant so I think you're teasing.
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>>539358870Many people on the right believe in UFOs / aliens, so you’re wrong.
>>539364887>>539364707In Sophistici Enelchi Aristotle says that when your opponent starts repeating himself he is 'babbling' and you can consider yourself the victor.
>>539352957None of these philosorapters would ever self identify as 'Left' or 'Right' even Marx would not say he was a leftist
>>539365027>30pbtid
>>539361274If there is no real distinction between groups, you might as well pick one that you like or belong to, and that likes you. Niggers and most flavor of brown don’t like Whites, western civilization or people who want to see Whites succeed, so why not only support your own group? Beyond some theoretical kumbaya where the browns of the world suddenly get rid of their resentment in the future (which has not played out). In fact, the more we’ve given non-Whites the more resentful and hateful they’ve become. Blacks that lived during Jim Crowe were significantly more civilized than now.
>>539364887Compare him to this nordid while we're at it.The nordid has:>a longer nose, less apelike>a thinner nose, less apelike>way more brain matter in front of his eyes (see picrel here >>539359754), less apelike>jaw doesn't protrude as much, less apelike>is mesocephalic, meaning his brain would be bigger even if they had the same height, and this is discounting the frontal brain matter advantage>huge lips are also apelikeetc etc etc no need to get ideeper into it>>539365027Keep giving me attitude like a little gay boy. You're still a dumb nigger.
>>539352957All of their political takes can be taken as worthless since they had no knowledge of genetics. Compared to modern leftists all of them are far right tho.
>>539365282All sudanid niggers share the morphology of the sudanid example and all nordids share the morphology of the nordid example. This is called RACE.Picrel is a bunch of armenoids. They all share morphology.You came to /pol/ you fucking faggot. You have nothing to teach here.
>>539357203Perhaps but the Founding fathers were also without exception white nationalists so it balances out a fair amount. Only major blunder was keeping African slaves instead of returning them to their quarantine continent.
>>539352957First define the "right." I say we have plenty of high IQ intellectuals. Milton and David Friedman, Mises, Stirner, Nozick, etc. I'll happily debate about race or Marxism to show you just how low IQ you are.
>>539352957The nietzsche people are right wing typically. The christian right isn't even right wing. It's more centrist than anything. It's even centrist when it's antisemitic.
>>539358657>see for yourself what Marxism is all aboutalready haveits over anon you got btfo last week
>>539352957When they bring this up half the time they'll tell you college education is a scam and anyone will a degree is lying to you. It can be in the US sure, but you also have the resources needed to decide where to study and what. But this narrative is also derived from the right having control of the media (this goes for the "woke" surge as well because provoking anti-woke movements was the entire point) which means that if you want to make money you need to appeal to a right leaning base or neoliberal at best.
>>539364067They are related to eachother because they come from the same stock of people who are all retarded. Africans did not sexually select for intelligence like the Europeans did
You're fighting spooks in your head OP. Lay off the politics. Not everything in the world is centered around American kabuki theater.
>>539363148>>539363691You do not understand genetics or heritability. Black people not all being related doesn't mean you cannot define them as a population and measure a heritable gap in traits with other populations. For example. I could define two populations, neurosurgeons and highschool dropouts. There would almost certainly be a heritable gap in intelligence between those populations despite neurosurgeons not being related ancestrally.
>>539365665>The nietzsche people are right wing typically. The christian right isn't even right wing.*Blocks your path*nothing personal, anti german mustache kikeNietzsche is exlusively espoused by anti white wokies and trannies who cant admit all his books were nothing more than garbling kike balls to spite Wagner
The right can claim intellectuals who are actually accomplished within fields like economics and sociology e.g. Hayek and Pareto. The left can claim people who pontificate about the “nature of being” and other inane platitudes which are only elevated by poetic usage.
>>539366031He actually openly admitted hereditability when he mentioned adoption studies. His point is that hereditability alone can’t establish genetic causation and he is correct, this is why race science is not mainstream.
>>539365931>living in Africa is so easy a high IQ doesn’t matterI find this really hard to believe desu, high IQ should help you reproduce and survive in any environment. Also does it really take a high IQ to store grain for the winter? Seems like memescience to me.
>>539364295This, OP is just a pseud faggot. A lot of sad trannies like xir get one-shotted by the thought parasite of pretentious continental philosophy. Thank god they're a dying breed mostly confined to their own containment spaces because they always give me major ick vibes
>>539366055>a butthurt christkike appears
>>539366446>His point is that hereditability alone can’t establish genetic causation and he is correctYou do not understand either then. That's exactly what heritability is, the measure of the genetic contribution to the variation of a trait within or between populations. There is no other method for doing this because all traits are an entanglement.
>>539366653Many Europeans were retarded like the Africans until the Romans conquered them. Perhaps something about the new Roman way of life encouraged them to sexually select for traits related to intelligence
>>539352957You can't even read Heidegger, you can't even begin. You look at his works the way a cow looks at an aeroplane.
>>539365572from right to left;>MK Ultra apprentice nepobaby who got high on own supply>Misinformation agent larping as genius>Nepocousin of nuclear material heist perpetrator>Gay zionist pretending to be goy.>Brain damaged dunning-Kruger voice of authority>closeted crossdresser larping as agitprop philosopher
>>539367005The problem is that environmental factors like prenatal environment are confounders.
>I need a consensus on what an "intellectual" is>PLLLLEASSSSSE give me a boot to lickoh the "left", a bunch of cultists, slaves and scammers
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We have AristotleHe sort of won it for us
>>539352957Philosophy is worldly wisdom, and is vanity, ultimately. It's not sanctified, and it it ended with Schopenhauer and anti-natalism. You end up deconstructing and skeptisizing everything until there's nothing left to deconstruct, besides the validity of biological endeavor/enterprise itself. That's where it leads if you follow it through until the end.
>>539353135Hayek can be counted among intellectuals. But lefttards are always flip flopping on him. If it serves their teleology he becomes left liberal, if he is used to shit on their totalitarian millenarian ambitions he suddenly is a charlatan
>>539352957Kill yourself, kike filth.
>>539364110>you hold everyone to a high standard and it makes us all annoyedUltra woman moment
>>539352957Schopenhauer, Jung, Plato, Aristotle, Zeno of Citium, Cleanthes of Assos, Seneca the Younger, Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, Socrates, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Justin Martyr, St. Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Søren Kierkegaard, Wilhelm Leibniz, Nietzsche, Edmund Burke, Joseph de Maistre, David Hume, Oswald Spengler, Heidegger, Alain de Benoist, Evola, Carl Schmitt, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Ernst Krieck, Alfred Baeumler, Giovanni Gentile, Hegel, Johann Gottlieb FichteBasically the entire canon of western civilization, also Kant was not a leftist, he didn't even believe women should be able to vote, if Kant was alive today he would have been considered extreme far right and an ethnic nationalist, I'm not sure I'm aware of any leftist intellectuals that are found in the western canon. even Karl Marx would be considered a white supremacist today because he said jews are hucksters and niggers aren't capable of socialism. Hegel himself was politically conservative not a leftist. Hegel was an idealist. He believed that ideas like spirit, and consciousness drive material history instead of material conditions driving history like leftists think
>>539367645>Plato, Aristotle...any more teleological universalistic collectivistsic millenarian eugencisit, or in vulgo "left" freaks?>kantyeah you have no fraking idea what the left is
>>539367645>Fichte>Hegel>Kant Doesn't get any more left-wing than those 3literally the prerequisite for Marxism
The modern left wing isn't even what it was 20 years ago. Left wing used to be about dependence and free thought. Those are the very things they are against these days. Anybody who pretend otherwise has an agenda. Same shit with the right. They used to be conservative, when nowadays they are completely irrational.Truth is, left/right simply no longer apply. It's jews vs goyim, men vs women and niggers vs civilization now.
Kant’s not a leftist but he is based.>>539367543The German word for philosophy is Weltweisheit.
>>539352957L v R is a meme for midwits
>>539367807No it never was about "free thought". That was just the particular teleology at the time; and if one looks a bit under the hood, it was never about "free thought" but about a particular universalistic collectivistic moralism.
>>539367863of course Kant was a lefttard.His thinking was teleological universalistic colelctivistic and millenarian
>>539352957>right has virtually no intellectuals (besides, what, Nick Land?)nick land is an irrelevant faggot. right wing intellectuals include chesterton and lewis> the left can claim every great intellectual from Kant to Habermassuper gay and you left out yarvin
>>539357811>the left is genetic inferiorityAnd yet think Darwin's one of theirs muahaha...Seriously the entire premise of this thread is shit-tier. Anyone attempting to dunk on Heidegger's a midwit just smart enough not to think they're retarded. Just reply with "OP's a faggot" and call it good.
>>539368068Heidegger was an idiot. His entire philosophy he churned out in a couple of week because he was under threat to lose his gibs if he doesn't shit out some books breaks the moment somebody says>I don't care
>>539352957gary gygax was a world-changing right wing intellectual. he destroyed witchcraft and supererogation with his thought experiments
>>539367863"thing-in-itself" how, you Jew-worshipping nigger?
>>539367982Only esoterically. Exoterically he was a basic bitch republican.
>>539367805Today all of those would be lumped in with the nazis and be considered extreme right by leftists if you told them what they thought without mentioning names. Right wingers read Fichte, Hegel and Kant all the time. Later works of Fichte was a German nationalist who became a foundational text for the far-right, he is literally a german ethnic nationalist. He argued that the German people were uniquely special. He claimed that those who speak a germanic language as opposed to Romance languages like French retain an unbroken, pure, organic connection to their ancestral soil.
>>539360423>academiafucko is the most widely taught philosopher in the university
>>539367463The prenatal environment and maternal effects are usually unaccounted for in heritability studies but if you wanted to measure their contribution to the variation of a trait then you would still use a heritability study. You would require an embryo adoption study rather than a traditional adoption study but the idea is the same. A dark area in the research does not suggest that the rest of the research is invalid. There is still no reason to believe in racial equality when the data that does exist all points against it.
>>539368236teleological universalistic collectivistic millenarianism is exoteric and esoteric. The entire raison-d'être that motivates sich a cultist is trying to propagandize its particular telos
>>539354042>plato a pseudSays the retard who can't see past the shadows in his cave. Read a physical anthropology book.
>>539368251you talk like a faggot and your shit is all retarded
>>539368372Tell me, can you touch the real? Is the real form in the room with you now shizo?
>>539368251And he thought the German ethnostate would lead the world into global communism you retard.
>>539368386Nazi party taught Fichte since he argued that a nation is not based on borders or constitutions, but on a shared, primordial language and blood
>>539368473In his 1800 book The Closed Commercial State, Fichte argued that true freedom requires a nation to be completely economically self-sufficient. He wanted to ban all international free trade, one of the reasons why the nazis had him in the curriculum
philosophy is the most useless and degenerate craft based on sophistry that ever existed. > t. philosophy phd retardanyone that takes anything as serious knowledge from people who looked like kant, hegel, nietzsche, etc. are completely fucked in the head.moreover, i literally just ignore anything nowadays that doesn't come from married people with a stable income and kids.it's all just lies, silly lies..
>>539368434Of course the autist doesn't understand analogies.1 +1 = 2.Is this a true equation, brainlet? Is it real? Is your brain in your room with you?
>>539368541>The nation is "right wing" because its not in the international socialist sense "left wing"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAthe nation is a "left" concept. It summons some mythical as universal true understood telos that is supposed to be true for the "collective" of homo sapien in a particular territory; which is of course absolute retarded bullshit
I disbelieve that most smart people are "intellectuals". Some perhaps but not most
>>539368541Doesn't change the point
>>539352957Cool story. Now, what is a woman?
>>539368647Right but he was a stagist and the final stage was global communism/anarchism. He writes about this most directly in Characteristics of the Present Age. What you take as based and right wing was a stepping stone to communism. Even there though he’s hardly a rightist, he argues against private property and says ‘the individual as such does not exist.’ Closed Commercial State actually influenced Stalinism via socialist intermediaries.
because christcucks sold our countries out which allowed jews to print infinite money for themselves to purchase infinite assets. their philosophy is opposed to right wing ideas, being with trying to conquer the nations and permenantly enslave them and all.so its not that there arent right wing philosophers, its just that they would never be given a platform, so theyre all operating underground and in small groups, places like here. because through the digestation of internet ideas, 4chan acts as the mouth in the human centipede dissemination of cultural ideas being spread all throughout the internet and the wider culture.just look at where harvard is today. a complete laughingstock. they didnt even allow women until 1948. now look at them. a complete judaized joke of a school.
>>539368840A word
>>539365593No, the major blunder was letting kikes in from the start
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>>539353310>all things are mostly XYou're not even qualified to be a midwit.
>>539352957Immanuel Kant held explicitly racist views, publishing works that provided an early intellectual foundation for scientific racism. He assigned Black people an inferior status and argued they were inherently incapable of genuine civilization.
>>539368860Interesting perspective. The Nazis officially claimed Fichte as a proto-Nazi hero. They erected statues of him, reprinted his addresses and hailed him as the spiritual father of the Nazi movement. They loved his concept of the German Volk, his autarky, and his anti-Semitism. He would have called his final stage the art of the perfect cultivation of reason which communists for some reason think is communism, I dont know why they think that though, this is a highly contested reading because of his ethnic nationalism
>>539368541what's funny is that regardless of which argument you take, either that of "pro borders and immigration laws" or that of "no borders but rather a shared primordial language and blood", either way the modern left is on the wrong. If you're pro-borders, then ICE are the good guys. If you're pro-language+blood, then ICE are the good guys because they're trying to keep that blood/language from being diluted even further.
>>539368749I can assume it, but I cannot know it with certainty.And no, its not a "true" "equation" its a set of symbols that represent and idiosyncratic set of concepts that cannot be proved outside of its axioms
The right don't have to offload thinking to dedicated thinking guys.
>>539369223a = a and it will always be a. A brain will always be a brain and never a chair, because if it is a chair then it's not a brain. This is the immutable reality. I'm amazed at how you can't understand simple logic.If you cannot tell what's real from what is not, that is what we call retardation.
>>539369197The Nazis claimed Christ, too. That Fichte thought the final stage would be propertyless is no conjecture. He was seen in his own time as a radical and atheist, you want to claim him for the Nazis because he was also a nationalist in later life. No, sorry.
>>539369159Just more proof race marxism is leftist, matriarchal. and egalitarian.
>>539354042Genuinely embarrassing take if youre older than 14
>>539369217Yes, modern leftism comes from the Frankfurt School and critical theory, they have no philosophers at all from before 1920 and I mean none, not even Marx because Marx was a racist
>>539369304Read Hegel, he refutes this. You say “a brain is a brain” but just to be a brain it must be many other things none of which is a brain. Nothing just “is” itself, everything is contradictory.
>>539369304What a bullshit. Words are just words. A frog doesn't call it "brain", he calls it cerveau, a german calls it Gehirn, a Guale calls it cérebro. And the thing that is named that way is just on a surface level "the same", in "reality" its an extremely ambigious organ that is in no way the same in any human. Go lick a boot marxist
>>539369159> be 159 cm> be ugly, tiny, physically ill> call other ethnicities inferior for not spreading judeo-prussian moral syphilisyou have to be a full-retard to think that scientific racism has any value.the final conclusion of it would mean that jews are demi-gods and niggers and arabs are conquerors of the inferior european races.
Read Thucydides Read HomerRead Aristotle Read Nietzsche Read SpenglerRead Evola Read HeideggerRead Jung Reading Plato is a complete waste of timeReading Schopenhauer is a complete waste of timeReading Marx is a complete waste of timeReading Engels is a complete waste of timeReading Leibniz is a complete waste of time Reading Kant is a complete waste of timeReading Fichte is a complete waste of timeReading Hegel is a complete waste of time
>>539353892What a tautological sentence
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>>539369469So a brain is not a brain? Then how do you know what I mean when I say brain?And yes, we don't fully understand what brains are made of, we don't know the whole reality. That's where the retardation part comes in. But we can still know what a brain is and isn't, to a better degree than an ant can.>>539369487It's the same object. A neuroscientist can explain the particulars of a brain much better than a lay man can, but you're still talking about the same thing. The lay man is just more retarded on the subject.
>>539369224Correct. A Pragmatic nominalistic individualist living in the now doesn't need some epistemic authority. The "right" simply doesnt like licking boots
>>539369359He argued that once each nation was stable and self-sufficient ethnic nationalist state, they could coexist peacefully, forming a rational global order. Its not that I want to claim him, the nazis literally did do that and what he thinks is basically pretty close to what I think as a modern white nationalist, to me his idea of an international order is pragmatic and doable. Mussolini said a lot of silly stuff before he became a fascist too but I wont hold it up and say hey here is what Mussolini actually thought before he changed his views so that means its what he always thought
>>539354042>Plato>PseudLmaooo
>>539369602Now tell me what is the "real" of the cérebro, the norm, the virtual perfect "brain"? You cant tell, because there is non. Go lick a boot marxist consensus faggot
>>539369646Behold!
>>539369725The word is aleatory, but the object is the same for everyone, along with everything that happens in it or to it. Are you an illusion? Are you gonna evaporate in a puff of smoke?
If you are threatened by Evola you are a Judaeo-Leftist; projection/social status games are feminine.
>>539369520>Reading Plato is a complete waste of time>Reading Schopenhauer is a complete waste of timeYou will never achieve Gnosis.
>>539369805No the object is not the same, and every "expert" you gonna ask is going to tell you straight away that there is not THE brain. There might be a structurally similar organ that has similar functions but THE brain does not exist
>>539353276Cope and get replaced
>>539369725Look at this retard who thinks Marxists are Platonic realists.
>>539370016You just changed the name from brain to structurally similar organ that has similar functions. We're still talking about the same thing. The brain.Keep it short.I don't need to know every single black person in a group to know a group of blacks is black. In the same way, you don't need to know everything about a brain to know it is a brain. You just need to know what distinguishes it from other objects.A chimp brain and a bird brain are different. Still brains, nigger.
>>539369528Talmudic. Normally repetition would be meant to drive a point home but here it's done for the sake of fitting more words into the paragraph imo>>539353892Does this mean that since a man thinks and "money and power" or whatever are more than mere thoughts and can be acquired, that the man deserves said money and power? Help the lowly /pol/tard understand if he missed anything
>>539369805And I cannot know with certainty if I am an illusion, neither can I know with certainty if I am going to puff of into smoke the moment I send this post of a cat
OP be liek:
>>539370142You universalistists are really retards. A shame that nobody saw it coming and burned every single copy of Platos brainfarts
>>539370016>>539370142What are you two really arguing about? One is arguing for some kind of platonic form of a brain, and the other claims that brain is merely a word whose meaning we perhaps understand through some kind of a language game, and now both are upset?
>>539370320Its the old fight between nominalists and universalists. The gual is a normal faggot that doesnt seem to realize that due to the dundamentally changed epistemic authority without gate keepers, that the universalists lies are coming to an end and nominalism is naturally winning in such an environment and nothing can stop it
>>539370200You can know with certainty it's not your pancreas doing the thinking. You can know with certainty pain hurts. You can know with certainty you will die if you don't eat. These are immutable realities. They might be relative to you, but they are still real to you.>neither can I know with certainty if I am going to puff of into smoke the moment I send this post of a catYou can. There is nothing in your organism that has the ability to do that. >>539370266>universalists are retardsIs this notion real to you?>>539370320He's denying anything is real at all. I'm just having fun working my brain.
